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by seemslikeadream » Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:58 am
by Burnt Hill » Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:14 pm
Shocked authorities now numbly concede that much of the water may never dissipate and have wearily resigned themselves to the possibility that region will now contain a new inland sea.
by Joe Hillshoist » Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:23 pm
by wintler2 » Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:11 am
by wintler2 » Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:25 am
Burnt Hill wrote:http://www.helium.com/items/2083868-magnetic-polar-shifts-causing-massive-global-superstorms
Magnetic polar shifts causing massive global superstorms
Due to the Australian flooding-Shocked authorities now numbly concede that much of the water may never dissipate and have wearily resigned themselves to the possibility that region will now contain a new inland sea.
by Joe Hillshoist » Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:36 am
wintler2 wrote:Mildura in Vic.n-west got its annual rainfall in 2 days; nobody believed it was possible for such a large flat area to flood (nearest hill 200km south), but it has, big time. Some towns in northern Vic are flooded out for the 4th time in 6 months. Thats now 3 states (and not your pissy little american states) recovering from major 'natural' disasters requiring federal intervention, Qld, Vic & WA.
Somebody rang ABC Melb. talkback this morning trying to draw a link with climate change, and the fucking pseudo-lefty car-nut host (John Faine) said "so what changes have you made in your life?", as if individuals, not the megapolluters or the politicians and journo's who whore for them (eg. Faine), are responsibile. Thats the progressive end of mainstream media in Oz.
Give it another decade and 'doing something' about climate change might get on the public agenda again. The mega-polluters will then up their spending on patrician creeps like Plimer and planet-fucking-as-usual will continue. And so it goes. Thank christ i grokked what a farce it was some years ago, otherwise i might get cross.
by conniption » Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:39 am
NPR
'Off The Charts' Super Typhoon Haiyan Hits Philippines
November 07, 2013 1:07 PM
Classified as a super typhoon, the Pacific storm Haiyan has made landfall in the Philippines, bringing top sustained winds that were measured at more than 195 miles per hour before landfall. The measurement reflects the winds sustained by the storm for one minute; the storm was also producing gusts of 230 mph.
Updated at 10:40 p.m. ET: Storm Strength Could Be Historic
The strength of the massive super typhoon could be record-setting, weather experts were saying Thursday night.
At 9:45 p.m. ET, The Washington Post's Capital Weather Gang : "With estimated maximum sustained winds of 195 mph, it is thought to be the strongest storm to ever make landfall anywhere in the world in modern records." Those winds speeds would be 5 mph higher than the recorded maximum sustained winds of Hurricane in 1969, Super Typhoon in 1979 and Hurricane in 1980.
Jeff Masters, meteorology director and founder of Weather Underground in Ann Arbor, Mich., that the power of Haiyan is "off the charts."
Update at 6:15 p.m. ET: Aid And Communication Resources
As has happened in other large events, Google has published a , showing the storm's path and the locations of evacuation centers and other resources.
The Philippine Red Cross is also posting updates and news .
Update at 5 p.m. ET: Typhoon Makes Landfall
"Typhoon 'Yolanda' has made landfall over Guiuan, Eastern Samar," according to the Philippines' PAGASA weather agency's , issued at 5 a.m. local time.
Local news site ANC/Yahoo reports, "Typhoon Yolanda made landfall in Guiuan, Eastern Samar at 4:40am."
"The situation is potentially very destructive to communities," the weather agency says, noting the chance that trees, agriculture, and buildings could be destroyed in the powerful storm.
The typhoon will not be clear of the Philippines territory until early Saturday morning, according to PAGASA.
Haiyan, also called Yolanda within the Philippines, achieved a rare mark earlier Thursday.
"Haiyan has achieved tropical cyclone perfection," tweeted earlier today. "It is now estimated at 165kts (190mph), with an 8.0 on the Dvorak scale... the highest possible value."
Update at 2:15 p.m. ET: Winds Strengthen Further
Haiyan's maximum sustained winds have grown to 170 knots (196 mph), according to the just-released update from the U.S. in Hawaii. Wind gusts are being measured at more than 230 mph.
The storm "has tracked westward at 21 knots over the past six hours," according to the update. "Maximum significant wave height ... is 50 feet."
Our original post continues:
Haiyan, which is dubbed Yolanda in the Philippines, is the most powerful typhoon so far of 2013. The name Haiyan comes from China, where the word means "petrel" (the seabird).
Thousands of people are fleeing the predicted path of the fearsome storm, which is expected to roar ashore early Friday morning, local time. (The Philippines are 13 hours ahead of EST, according to , the country's weather service.)
Haiyan is expected to hit the region of Eastern Visayas. As of 11 a.m. EST, it was reported to be 130 miles from Guiuan, in the region's Eastern Samar province.
President Benigno S. Aquino III used a national TV address Thursday to warn residents that they face a "calamity" and urge them to follow evacuation orders and take other precautions.
"Let me repeat myself: This is a very real danger, and we can mitigate and lessen its effects if we use the information available to prepare," he said, according to .
Fueled by warm water temperatures, the storm "has maintained a sharply defined eye with multiple concentric rings and a deep convective eyewall," the U.S. in Hawaii says. It adds that the system is moving at around 22 knots.
"Due to the extremely favorable environmental conditions and recent intensification, the system is expected to remain at super typhoon intensity over the next 24 hours," even after making an initial landfall, the typhoon warning center says.
After plowing through the Philippines, Haiyan is expected to continue on a westerly track that will take it to central Vietnam.
A powerful storm that brought winds measured at 120 mph.
by fruhmenschen » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:47 pm
by Ben D » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:24 pm
10,000 feared killed in Philippines by super typhoon Haiyan
by DrEvil » Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:45 am
Ben D » Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:24 am wrote:10,000 feared killed in Philippines by super typhoon Haiyan
Terrible storm and my prayers go out to the people, but way off being record setting.
It is hoped that we never get them again as bad as in the past,..but unfortunately every now and again they will occur...
http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/deadlyworld.asp
by Ben D » Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:40 am
DrEvil » Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:45 pm wrote:Ben D » Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:24 am wrote:10,000 feared killed in Philippines by super typhoon Haiyan
Terrible storm and my prayers go out to the people, but way off being record setting.
It is hoped that we never get them again as bad as in the past,..but unfortunately every now and again they will occur...
http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/deadlyworld.asp
Huh. You conveniently miss the whole point again. It's the strongest storm to make landfall. Your link shows number of deaths. Two different things.
by conniption » Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:34 pm
NY Daily News
(more images and links at the source.)
Fast-moving tornadoes and severe thunderstorms blast through Midwest.
A nasty twister walloped Washington, Ill. before continuing its destructive path. The National Weather Service estimated that 53 million people in 10 states were at risk from the formidable mixture of tornadoes and rollicking thunder.
By Michael Walsh / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Updated: Sunday, November 17, 2013, 5:02 PM
Powerful thunderstorms and tornadoes raged through the Midwest on Sunday, spreading nightmarish destruction through central Illinois as locals holed up in their basements to wait out the chaos.
The central Illinois community of Washington appears to have been hit the hardest.
Steve Smedley/The Pantagraph/AP - Firefighters stand in the middle of Devonshire Street on the North side of Washington, Ill., after a tornado leveled at least fifty homes, Sunday, Nov. 17, 2013.
"I stepped outside and I heard it coming. My daughter was already in the basement, so I ran downstairs and grabbed her, crouched in the laundry room and all of a sudden I could see daylight up the stairway and my house was gone," Michael Perdun said to The Associated Press Sunday. "The whole neighborhood's gone, (and) the wall of my fireplace is all that is left of my house."
The Illinois National Guard dispatched 10 firefighters to Washington to look for survivors that are reportedly trapped in buildings. Nearby hospitals were in the midst of setting up a temporary emergency care facility in the ravaged city.
After wreaking havoc in Washington, the storm thundered on toward Chicago. City officials evacuated the stands at Soldier Field and postponed the Bears-Ravens football game for about two hours as hard rain slammed the sides of building in Downtown Chicago.
REUTERS/Alexandra Sutter
Tornado damage in Washington Illinois can be seen in this handout picture courtesy of Alexandra Sutter/WMBD.com takenSunday. A confirmed large and extremely dangerous tornado was spotted near Washington, Illinois, located about 145 miles southwest of Chicago, the National Weather Service said.
"This is a very dangerous situation," said Russell Schneider, director of the National Weather Service's Storm Prediction Center. "Approximately 53 million in 10 states are at significant risk for thunderstorms and tornadoes."
Earlier today, Laura Furgione, deputy director of the weather service's National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, warned Midwesterners to get ready for the treacherous tempests.
"Our primary message is this is a dangerous weathers system that has the potential to be extremely deadly and destructive," she said.
A tornado touched down outside East Peoria, Ill. just before 11 a.m. Before noon, tornadoes descended upon Washington, Metamora, Morton and other towns in the center of the state, blasting homes and businesses to smithereens.
The whirlwinds sped northeast at about 60 mph, according to Weather Service officials.
Meteorologist Matt Friedlein of the weather service said that such intense storms are not typical this late in the year because there usually isn't enough heat to sustain extreme thunderstorms. He stressed that fast twisters this late in the year could catch people off guard if they fall into complacency and do not keep a vigilant eye on the changing weather. He warned "things can change very quickly."
Parts of Illinois, Indiana, Michigan and Ohio were at the greatest risk of vicious tornadoes, massive hail and disastrous winds throughout Sunday, agency officials said.
Charles Rex Arbogast/AP - Fans leave the stadium as severe weather passes over Soldier Field during the first half of an NFL football game between the Chicago Bears and the Baltimore Ravens, Sunday.
Some of the atmospheric bedlam was expected to storm into the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast states by the evening, officials said.
AP - This NOAA satellite image taken Sunday shows a few rain showers scattered over northern Florida. A developing low pressure/frontal system is moving through the Upper and Mid Mississippi Valley, the Great Lakes, and the Central and Northern Plains. Rain is found across the Great Lakes and Upper Mississippi Valley with some snow across North Dakota.
The weather service issued tornado warnings for sections of the following Wisconsin counties: Kenosha, Racine and Walworth.
Funnel clouds, the general cause of tornadoes, gathered ominously in the sky above McHenry County, outside Chicago, but none failed to reach the ground or cause any destruction, said Bob Ellsworth of the county's emergency management agency.
mwalsh@nydailynews.com
by DrEvil » Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:32 pm
Ben D » Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:40 am wrote:DrEvil » Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:45 pm wrote:Ben D » Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:24 am wrote:10,000 feared killed in Philippines by super typhoon Haiyan
Terrible storm and my prayers go out to the people, but way off being record setting.
It is hoped that we never get them again as bad as in the past,..but unfortunately every now and again they will occur...
http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/deadlyworld.asp
Huh. You conveniently miss the whole point again. It's the strongest storm to make landfall. Your link shows number of deaths. Two different things.
Oh really, is that so? Please provide the evidence that it is the strongest storm ever to make landfall if you think so,..thanks in advance.
ps...and look out for dodgy journalism where mph was used for kph..
Btw, here is the official report from the Philippine Met Agency, PAGASA
...and here is how storms are rated in terms of strength...Category 4 anyone?
Was Typhoon Haiyan a Record Storm?
Breaking news can sometime include mistakes, and breaking news emerging from disaster areas can be fraught with errors. Journalists try to do follow-up stories to correct facts, and until then, other journalists reporting on the same event often resort to general language to cover the vagaries. So it has been with Typhoon Haiyan. Stories in the past several days have consistently called the event “one of the strongest storms in history.” Well, here’s what we know with a little hindsight and expert commentary.
Haiyan is the strongest storm to ever make landfall, according to Jeff Masters, director of meteorology at Weather Underground, a Web site often quoted by the best weather experts. Masters knows severe weather data better than anyone I’ve encountered, and his blog is filled with fascinating facts. The “strength” of a cyclone, typhoon or hurricane—they’re all the same storm, just different names used in different parts of the world—is determined by the top speed of sustained winds, not gusts. According to Masters, Haiyan had sustained winds of 190 to 195 mph when it struck the Philippines, making it the strongest cyclone ever at the time of landfall.
It was also the fourth strongest cyclone ever recorded, according to the Joint Typhoon Warning Center in Hawaii. Three others had higher sustained winds while out at sea, then weakened before hitting land: Typhoon Nancy in 961, with 215 mph winds; Typhoon Violet in 1961, with 205 mph winds; and Typhoon Ida, in 1958, with 200 mph winds. All three eventually hit Japan. The second strongest storm at the time of landfall was Hurricane Camille, which struck Mississippi bearing 190 mph winds.
It’s important to realize that even a modest rise in speed can cause a huge increase in damage, because the power in wind increases as the cube of speed; a wind that is twice as strong delivers eight times as much power. Camille obliterated towns and the landscape. If the same storm hit Miami or New York City today, Masters says, the damage could be half a trillion dollars. Building codes in southern Florida require the highest wind resistance in the world, Masters says, yet the rules have only been in effect for a couple of decades and many buildings are older than that.
Despite destructive winds, a storm’s surge—the height of the sea above the tide—can inflict the heaviest damage and kill the most people. Storm surges vary a lot even among the most powerful storms, because the rise in ocean water is driven not just by the wind speed but how long high winds are sustained, how fast the storm moves forward, whether a storm makes landfall during high or low tide, and especially the shape of the sea floor leading up to the coast. A broad, gradual sea bottom like that in the Gulf of Mexico leading up to New Orleans can allow water to build up more than a sea floor that drops abruptly, like that east of Florida.
It is difficult to determine the height of a storm surge until scientists can get out into ruined neighborhoods and measure the high water marks—which can vary along even a fairly short stretch of coast. As of today, estimates for Haiyan’s surge are between 15 and 20 feet where it first made landfall. Hurricane Sandy’s surge topped out at about 13 feet in New York City and northern New Jersey. Hurricane Katrina’s surge was 24 to 28 feet along the Louisiana Coast.
These monster storms often raise the notion that scientists should expand the Saffir-Simpson hurricane scale. A category 1 storm has winds of 74 to 95 mph, and the stages rise every 20 mph or so. But because a category 5 storm is rated at 157 mph or higher, it makes sense to some observers to create a new category 6 for storms like Haiyan that are so far above that speed.
Masters doesn’t see the benefit, however, and even sees a potential pitfall. Anything higher than category 5, he says, would not make warnings or evacuation orders any stronger or alter actions that emergency personnel would take. “It wouldn’t help as far as getting people to do the right thing,” he explains. “And if there were a category 6 storm, and it was downgraded to category 5, people might say, ‘Oh, it’s weakening.’ But category 5 is already catastrophic.”
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