Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

[jam.fuse]

hey i heard theres a revolution in egypt!

and you can watch it live here, or something:

http://shar.es/3tz6J

if not already mentioned

[DevilYouKnow]

He's messing up the orderly transition. But maybe we've already passed the point when that's no longer an option, and Washington didn't get the memo.

El Baradei tweet: "Egypt will explode. Army must save the country now".

[Searcher08]

I think there is going to be a human wave around the Presidential Palace tomorrow, and that eventually even if the presidential guard shoot the protesters, there is going to be a wall of people moving towards it and eventually the guards will run out of ammunition and even if the bodies are piled 20 deep, the Eqyptian people will not stop.

There was a focus and intensity and coherence coming from the people that they now know exactly where the Government are.

The Eqyptian people deserve better than having a lying narcissist neurally-challenged fruitcake and a vulpine ghoul torturer who looks like an extra from a Christopher Lee movie

First, however, that Mubarek speech.


then an image from the Vice presidents office

[anothershamus]

I just heard the speech of Mubarak, and the crowd didn't like it! All hell is about to break loose!

[Nordic]

This won't be the first trap, or the first lie. That's what evil people do. They lie, they cheat, and most of all ... they stall.

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[anothershamus]

This won't be the first trap, or the first lie. That's what evil people do. They lie, they cheat, and most of all ... they stall.

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I just found this on Target.ps, I know it's not Egypt but it's close, and it is an indication that War is coming to Gaza! :

http://target.ps/en/2011/02/the-circles-in-the-sky-over-gaza/

People keep talking of a new war. They tell you about their neighbors — they’re probably too shy to admit that its their family, not their neighbors — who already started stocking up on food items and candles in preparation for the upcoming war. “People are really scared,” they tell you, using “people” instead of “we.” Everyone — groundless news reports and loud rumors — is saying that they can hear the war drums, can’t you?!

Well, to me war has already started, and Israel is already chanting victory, given the very conversation the two of us are having. About two weeks ago I saw what looked to me like a confused Israeli pilot flying around in his F-16 jet, drawing circles in the sky. People immediately took it as a sign, a threat and a signal that war was coming. They even made up memories from back in 2008, and were convinced that on 27 December 2008, an Israeli jet, possibly even the same one, drew the same circles in the sky, and that was when war started.

[Nordic]

And was it yesterday? The day before? ( I don't know, I've been working nights and I don't even know what day it is now) The Israelis blew up that medical supply place in Gaza. Almost like in preparation.

[Luther Blissett]

Early computer-generated English translation of the speech. lol@"hosing" Mubarak:

People and Women of Egypt, I am addressing you today. I am addressing the youth of Egypt in Tahrir Square. And throughout Egypt, I am addressing you today with a speech from my heart.

A speech of a father to his sons and daughters.

I would like to tell you that I am proud of you as a symbol of a new generation of Egyptians that is calling for a better change. And it's committed to this change and a youth, which is dreaming and making the future.

I would like to talk to you first of all about all of your martyrs that are injured, their blood will not go in vain and I would like to stress I would not refrain from punishing those behind those crimes with all severity. Those who have committed crimes against our youth will be put on trial according to the courts and the laws. They will get severe punishments. And I would like to address the families of these innocent victims. It saddens me a great deal and it hurt my heart what had happened to them. In the same way you felt this hurt and pain.

I would like to tell you that my response to your voice, to your message, to your demands, is an irrevocable commitment and I am determined strongly to pledge what I have promised you with all seriousness and frankness. And I am committed strongly to implement without hesitation all of that without hesitation.

This commitment stems from a severe commitment, a strong commitment, in your confidence.

And your demands are legitimate and right demands. Any political system can commit mistakes and any state can commit mistakes. What is most important is to acknowledge these mistakes and put them right as soon as possible and put those behind them into account, bring them to Account.

I would like to tell you as the President of the republic I am not embarrassed to listen to the Youth of my country and to respond to them.

However, the main embarrassment And what is wrong and things That I will not accept ever is To listen to the talks coming From abroad, whichever it's Coming from or for whatever Reason or pretexts or excuses.

Youth of Egypt, sons of Egypt, Brothers, citizens, I have Expressed with all clarity my Intention not to stand for the Forthcoming elections.

What I have actually deployed the effort in this country for More than 60 years during the Days of peace and war.

I express my commitment to this And I express a similar pledge And commitment to carry on -- do My responsibility to protect the Constitution, the interests of The people, until a transfer of Power and responsibility is Handed to whoever is elected by The electorate next September in Fair and free elections that Will be guaranteed with Transparency and freedom.

This is the pledge that I made before god and the nation.

And I will protect this pledge until together we take Egypt to The safety, to the shore of Safety.

I have expressed plans to get Out of this crisis and also to Implement the demands of people Within the constitution's Legitimacy and in a way that Will achieve stability of our Society, the demand of its sons And also at the same time put Forward a framework agreed for a Peaceful transfer of power Through a responsible dialogue Amongst all the forces of Society and with all -- with Most degree of frankness and Transparency.

I put forward this vision, Committed to my responsibility To get the country out of this Very difficult situation and I Will carry on to win it, first One after the other, one hour After the other, and looking Forward to the assistance of Everyone who is eager for Egypt's safety and stability.

I put it forward to implement it.

And these plans would be implemented within reason by our Armed forces.

We have, in fact, started a very constructive national dialogue that includes Egypt's youth, which have led, for a call for Change and all the political Forces.

This dialogue has resulted in The principled agreement in Opinions and stances which has Put us in the path, on the right Path to get out of this crisis, And we should carry on this Dialogue so that to get it from The framework into a real plan, A clear road plan, and within a Precise and fixed timetable.

I face day after day a peaceful Transition of power will start from now to next September.

This national dialogue has made over the formation of a Constitutional commission to look into the required Constitutional amendments and ad Hoc legislative amendments.

It has also agreed for the Formation of a commission which Will follow up a sincere Follow-up for what I have Pledged before the people.

I was eager that the formation Have both commissions should be made from Egyptian personalities worthy of -- who have experience And trust.

Composed of leaders and experts.

On top of this, the number of Martyrs that we have lost from the sons of Egypt during this sad event has actually hurt our Hearts.

I have immediately expressed My -- instructed people last Week to carry out an inquiry and Whose result should be put Forward to the prosecutors so They can take the legal, the Necessary legal actions.

Yesterday I received the first Report regarding the Constitutional priority, Constitutional amendments, as Proposed by the commission that I have set up composed of the Judiciary and the legal experts To study legal and Constitutional amendments as Required.

And in response to the outcome Of the commission's report and In accordance to the powers Entrusted to the president of The republic are calling to Clauses and I have asked for 88 Article and 93, and 89.

In addition to the consolation Of 178 article.

This is stressing at the same Time that other amendments will be implemented according to Necessity and as needed.

These amendments to facilitate can be saved for the present Elections and also to see to it that the holding of the Elections should be free and transparent.

It is up to the judiciary to seek into the identities of the Members of the parliaments and the conditions put forward for the elections.

As for the situation to council To abolish 168 article of the Constitution, it needs the Protection of the country from The dangers of terrorism and the Guarantee of rights and Freedoms, civil freedoms of the Citizens, that will allow us to Open the door to the lifting of The emergency law in accordance To the right circumstances and The prevalence of stability so That we can do that.

Citizens, the priority now is to recover trust between the Egyptian -- amongst the Egyptians and to have trust and Confidence in our economy and International reputation and the Fact that the change that we have embarked on will carry on and there's no going back to the Old days.

Egypt is going through difficult Times and we cannot allow it to Carry on.

The damage caused to our economy and it's on a daily basis, this Damage is on a daily basis, will Lead Egypt to situations that the youth who are calling for Change and reform would be the First affected from the effects of the current situation.

The current time is not about me.

The situation is not about hosing Mubarak, but the reality is now About Egypt, its present, the Future of its sons, all Egyptians are in the same Trench, therefore, we should Continue our national dialogue That have already started in the Spirit of groups but not Enemies.

For Egypt to get over this Situation and for us to recover, The confidence in our economy And to give the citizens Stability and peace and so that Life can return to normal in the Streets.

Like the youth of Egypt today I Was a young man as well when I Joined the military and when I Pledged loyalty to the nation And sacrificed to the nation, I Spent my life defending Egypt's Land and sovereignty.

I saw its wars, its defeats, and Victories.

I lived days of occupation and Frustration and days of Liberation.

Those were the best days; the Best day of my life is when I raised the flag of Egypt over The Sinai.

And when I flew planes.

There was no day when I was affected or I gave into foreign Pressures.

I respect -- I professed peace and I worked for Egypt's Stability and peace and I worked For Egypt's progress and the Progress of its people.

My aim was never to seek a force and take power.

I believe that the majority of Egyptian people know who is Hosing Mubarak and it pains me what has been expressed by some People from my own country.

Anyway, I am aware of the Dangers facing us and out of my Belief that Egypt is going Through a very significant phase In its history, this compels all To put the interests of the Nation first and put Egypt above Any consideration.

I thought to transfer powers of the president to the vice President according to the Constitution, I am very well Aware that Egypt will come through this crisis.

Its people will not be broken.

It will stand on its feet again.

[please stand by] >> and Egypt's pride and its Unique, significant, and eternal Dignity.

It has been here for more than 7,000 years.

This spirit will live in us as Long as Egypt and its people, This spirit will live in us as Long as Egypt and its people Live, everybody, workers, Farmers, intellectuals will have This spirit, this spirit will Remain in the hearts of our Elderly, youth, our Muslims, Copts, and even in the minds of Those who have not been born Yet.

Once again, I would like to say that I live for the sake of this Nation.

To protect its responsibility And Egypt will prevail above anybody and everybody.

[anothershamus]

I'm at a sports bar with free peanuts watching the turmoil and I have to admit that main square looks like center camp at burning man!

You know who burns on Saturday Night!

[AhabsOtherLeg]

This won't be the first trap, or the first lie. That's what evil people do. They lie, they cheat, and most of all ... they stall.

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It's definitely not the first lie or trap. I'm hoping it will be the last, though, or... not the beginning of the end, but the end of the beginning, as they say.

The regime clearly wants to outlast and exhaust the protestors. Unbelievable stamina, increduble patience, and superhuman resolve is being asked of them. I still have hope, because they've already shown they are capable of such things.

The govt is playing very clever - harrying attacks every now and then, so that no one can ever feel safe, but without launching an all-out attack of Tiananmen proportions. Then you have the abduction and torture of selected individuals to weaken overall resistance (as per usual). And then deliberately cultivating euphoria only to plunge the people violently back into despair - which amounts to a kind of sociological waterboarding.

Any government or power who did not want the Muslim Brotherhood to be the most popular and powerful opposition political grouping in Egypt (which they clearly aren't) would not behave this way.

I think the government will still lose, simply because they can't win.

[anothershamus]

This won't be the first trap, or the first lie. That's what evil people do. They lie, they cheat, and most of all ... they stall.

\

It's definitely not the first lie or trap. I'm hoping it will be the last, though, or... not the beginning of the end, but the end of the beginning, as they say.

The regime clearly wants to outlast and exhaust the protestors. Unbelievable stamina, increduble patience, and superhuman resolve is being asked of them. I still have hope, because they've already shown they are capable of such things.

The govt is playing very clever - harrying attacks every now and then, so that no one can ever feel safe, but without launching an all-out attack of Tiananmen proportions. Then you have the abduction and torture of selected individuals to weaken overall resistance (as per usual). And then deliberately cultivating euphoria only to plunge the people violently back into despair - which amounts to a kind of sociological waterboarding.

Any government or power who did not want the Muslim Brotherhood to be the most popular and powerful opposition political grouping in Egypt (which they clearly aren't) would not behave this way.

I think the government will still lose, simply because they can't win.

Notice how he waited until the markets closed in the USA before making his speech!

[NaturalMystik]

I'm at a sports bar with free peanuts watching the turmoil and I have to admit that main square looks like center camp at burning man!

Yeah for real! I was waiting for the Rolling Stones to take the stage...

[AhabsOtherLeg]

Good point Vanlose. The thing I can't figure out is why he/they (I mean, Suleiman) didn't have undercover police launching attacks on army positions and APCs from within the protest crowd during the second week, thus drawing the retaliatory fire of the army onto the people, and breaking the fragile alliance between the two.

If some soldiers had been killed by people who appeared to be part of the crowd, the army would've retaliated full force against the people, and Mubarak could've made himself look like the good guy as he called for compassion and restraint.

Why wasn't that done? It's a traditional tactic, everywhere. Always has been.

Why wasn't it done?

Alice is right, I hope, except it's not just the army who have refused to fire on the people, but a certain section of the police and the security services must've refused to follow those orders too.
Maybe Jeff is right too, and the regime is merely hallucinating that it still lives, as it dies.

I have always been wrong about everything, though. I hope this is an exception.

[Luther Blissett]

The CIA director said it was "very likely" that Mubarak would step down tonight.

Politics in our Banana Empire being what they are, tomorrow this will be called an "intelligence failure." It prompted a statement by Obama, at the beginning of his routine speech in Wisconsin, that "we are watching history unfold." This will be a contentious issue in Congress, while the continuing flow of US military aid to the Egyptian dictatorship will remain unmentioned.

It's time for US to get out in the streets in solidarity with our Egyptian sisters and brothers. Whatever country you're in, the right embassy for the protests tomorrow is the American one.

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Good call, I already heard this called an intelligence failure.

[DoYouEverWonder]

The CIA director said it was "very likely" that Mubarak would step down tonight.

Politics in our Banana Empire being what they are, tomorrow this will be called an "intelligence failure." It prompted a statement by Obama, at the beginning of his routine speech in Wisconsin, that "we are watching history unfold." This will be a contentious issue in Congress, while the continuing flow of US military aid to the Egyptian dictatorship will remain unmentioned.

It's time for US to get out in the streets in solidarity with our Egyptian sisters and brothers. Whatever country you're in, the right embassy for the protests tomorrow is the American one.

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Good call, I already heard this called an intelligence failure.

So was 9/11.

We spend billions for our false sense of security.