The first global cyber war has begun

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Re: The first global cyber war has begun

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:48 am

JackRiddler wrote:.

Wait a minute, did I miss it before?! Did you say anywhere upthread that THIEL FOUNDED PALANTIR?! I'm sorry, so much shit to keep track of.

This one's a mother-fucking-lode!

Same guy who helped pay for the O'Keefe-Breitbart attack campaigns on ACORN and other targets also founded Palantir, which was an equal partner in the HBGary plots to attack activists, including Wikileaks and opponents of the Chamber, etc. etc., which also involve scraping his most famous investment, Facebook, for intel. (Meanwhile, Egyptians are putting that thing to better use!)

And in the middle of all that Thiel appears at an intellectuals' talk at Wikileaks to pretend he's for freedom of speech, long as the sacred property rights of corporations (people!) come first. Ha! In the talk he even pretends that he'd have had a hard time deciding what to do, if he had still been in charge of Paypal when the government started its anti-Wikileaks campaign! And this is while his own company is devising an anti-Wikileaks campaign!

Crazy shit. Wow. Given his spook-heavy investments, you might figure this guy at some point acquired a clearance with the government. So he can pretend to be Mr. Anti-Government at the same time.

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I thought there was something sus about him (Thiel) during that FORA tv thing. He just seemed like a ... if I was dealing with someone who behaved like or showed the same body language as Thiel I would have found it difficult to trust them on anything. I thought maybe it was my intrinsic bias against him.
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Re: The first global cyber war has begun

Postby Plutonia » Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:20 pm

Oh, he is sooo busted. Here he is at the Oslo Peace Forum last June:

Peter Thiel: "If we can haz some transparentcy mechanism, we can haz no moar repressive regimes -liek China. Yay :yay "




And, he's been working the press-love lately. Coinky-dink?

Forbes:On The Cover/Top Stories- Life After Facebook

Brian Caulfield and Nicole Perlroth, 01.26.11, 06:00 PM EST
Forbes Magazine dated February 14, 2011

Peter Thiel has made billions in social media. He's moving on--bankrolling ideas he thinks will save the world.


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Re: The first global cyber war has begun

Postby Plutonia » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:30 pm

Latest: anons are circulating an email and pdf from CIA-linked infosec company, Endgame Systems.

The pdf is an analysis of Anonymous and Wikileaks in light of the DDOS attacks on Paypal and Visa. It's essentially accurate, no revelations, no puffery: http://69.80.108.134/20110114-Anonymous.pdf

Here is the email exchange 'tween Aaron at HBGary and EGS:
Subject: Re: palantir+hbgary

From: "John Farrell" <john@endgames.us>

To: "Aaron Barr" <aaron@hbgary.com>
I'm just the messenger. i understand perfectly.

John

On Jan 26, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Aaron Barr wrote:

> One more thing...the press release was completely vetted with Palantir before we submitted it. We would not public announce a partnership without going through the other company first.
>
> Aaron
>
>
> On Jan 26, 2010, at 8:54 AM, John Farrell wrote:
>
>> Aaron,
>>
>> Chris wanted me to pass this along. We've been very careful NOT to have public face on our company. Please ensure Palantir and your other partners understand we're purposefully trying to maintain a very low profile. Chris is very cautious based on feedback we've received from our government clients. If you want to reconsider working with us based on this, we fully understand.
>>
>> I'll see you at 1300 today. Thanks
>>
>> John
>>
>>>
>>> Please let HBgary know we don't ever want to see our name in a press release.

[Lol]


>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris Rouland
>>> chris@endgames.us
>>> ------Original Message------
>>> From: Daniel Ingevaldson
>>> To: Chris Rouland
>>> To: David Miles
>>> Subject: palantir+hbgary
>>> Sent: Jan 26, 2010 2:44 AM
>>>
>>> http://www.darkreading.com/securityserv ... =222400540
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> John M. Farrell
>> Vice President
>> Endgame Systems
>> 1940 Duke Street Suite 200
>> Alexandria, VA 22314
>> (703) 622-9025
>>
>
> Aaron Barr
> CEO
> HBGary Federal Inc.
>
>
>

John M. Farrell
Vice President
Endgame Systems
1940 Duke Street Suite 200
Alexandria, VA 22314
(703) 622-9025

Cached here


And

[edit: Removed HBGary/Endgame emails associated with that classified pdf manual for net-snoopers. Hint: Try Scribd. :| ]

....

CIA-linked startup touts all-seeing eye for net spooks

By Chris Williams •

Posted in Government, 18th February 2010 12:02 GMT

A security startup with close links to the CIA is touting a system to the UK government that monitors every IP address on the internet for malware, as part of its declared aim of improving cyber war capabilities.

Endgame Systems helps US intelligence identify and hack into vulnerable networks, and is targeting a similar role in Britain's nascent national cyber security operations.

The firm, founded in June 2008 in Atlanta, has built a massive and constantly updated database of security breaches across the globe. It is currently monitoring about 250 million compromised machines.


As well as producing terabytes of geotagged malware tracking data, Endgame Systems also stores details of operating system configurations using Hadoop, the open source file system for very large datasets. Using the approach made famous by Google, this vast mine of "internet situational awareness", as Endgame Systems calls it, is maintained on a infrastructure of cheap, easily replaceable servers.

Internet situational awareness is essentially the brief given to the Cyber Security Operations Centre, the new unit located at GCHQ in Cheltenham, scheduled to begin work next month.

Intelligence and military customers are able to access Endgame Systems' database via a simple web page. They can type in terms such as a location or an organisation and moments later a map or a list of compromised systems appears, showing how long ago they were breached and how.

A search for "Nuclear Power Corporation of India", for example, brings up a list of computers still infected with Conficker, the Windows worm that spread around the world initially via a Microsoft vulnerability. The firm hand-curates its company records.

Such indications of poor basic network hygiene, so readily available, could be very valuable to digital espionage, or even cyber warfare efforts.

Endgame Systems makes no effort to contact those non-customers it observes are afflicted by malware, arguing the global scale of the problem would make it unfeasible and approaches would often be unwelcome.

The firm's team of 25 staff, cleared for classified work, track botnets, inserting themselves to monitor activity and disabling large parts of them. It hobbles them by uncovering the web addresses of control nodes - that infected machines are programmed to contact at some later date - and buying up the domains.

Similar work is part of the Conficker Working Group's remit.

Working in collaboration with law enforcement agencies such as the FBI, Endgame Systems typically does not completely shut down zombie networks, preferring to gather more intelligence to allow investigators to unpick criminal hierarchies. A low-ranking botmaster contacting his domain supplier to find out what is wrong with his control node might offer a lead to Mr Big.

The limited publicly information currently available on the firm hints at its further role assisting clandestine government cyber operations by identifying targets and developing exploits.

"Our focus also includes software vulnerability discovery and analysis, reliable exploitation on modern systems, and defeating exploit mitigation technologies," says a brief corporate biography on a defence industry association website.

An expired job ad maintained in an obscure web cache adds: "Endgame Systems leverages its world-class capabilities in the fields of leading edge computer vulnerability research and global IP analytics to enhance the overall cyber intelligence and cyber war fighting capability of the United States Government."

Company representatives told The Register recently it would only sell such services to the US and UK governments, whose intelligence agencies have a close working relationship. Endgame Systems' advisory board includes former CIA technology officials Alan Wade and Bob Flores.

Contacted via email, Endgame Systems CEO Chris Rouland declined to comment on his young firm's activities in the burgeoning national cyber security market, preferring to discuss forthcoming commercial ventures.

"Very soon, Endgame Systems will launch a beta of its new IP Confidence Service," he said.

"Reputation systems available today are one-dimensional, focusing primarily on measuring spam email to determine if an IP address is 'good' or 'bad'.


"The Endgame Systems Confidence System leverages internet-wide monitoring and sophisticated multivariate analysis to compute a rational metric for the overall trustworthiness of any given IP address. We believe our system represents the next-generation in IP reputation and will allow for a much deeper integration of IP reputation into all manner of internet transactions. This service will be made available to all, from the smallest blog to the largest online retail site."

Rouland, along with the most of Endgame Systems' senior management, is an alumnus of Internet Security Systems, acquired by IBM for $1.3bn in 2007. Its chief scientist is Dino Dai Zovi, previously known as a serial Steve Jobs irritant.

In the UK meanwhile, the firm hired Bruce Wynn OBE in November, to smooth its dealings with British agencies. He is a former senior military intelligence and communications official who now works as a secure government IT consultant.

"I like to call it 'very polite listening'," he said in a brief answer to questions about Endgame Systems' efforts on behalf of government agencies.

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Re: The first global cyber war has begun

Postby JackRiddler » Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:11 am

hanshan wrote:Jack - I think not only is it a question of astounding hypocrisy, but the extraordinary
disconnect that comes from both money & close encounters w/ d'spooks.
& yeah, he would have to have a security clearance as would his company.
Tell ya what, if these guys are this dumb & clueless... :rofl:
...


I have to keep making this point. If these guys are this dumb and clueless... well they're still very rich and powerful and most of them are getting richer and more powerful. Their inarguably dumb and clueless actions have enormous consequences on the rest of us. That they are dumb and clueless would have been no consolation to the poor bastard that Aaron Barr wanted to falsely nail as the CEO of Anonymous, if Barr's demented and reckless plan to do so had worked. That poor bastard would have been a direct casualty, but we are all indirectly impacted by the growth in state-sanctioned parapolitics that act outside and against the law with impunity.

The exposure of HBGary is not a case of the system working. It only happened thanks to an illegal and covert (but morally correct) guerilla action by rogue players (in their own self-defense). What the exposure of HBGary shows us, above all, is that there is a large biotope of such companies and operators engaging in freelance activities as contractors to the state and the most powerful corporations and acting to suppress political organizing, free speech and the free press. It's very much like the O'Keefe story, where O'Keefe is shown up (but continues operating!) while the network that spawned him and his buddies like Stan Dai -- of about two dozen CIA-financed campus covens of right-wing operators -- remains untouched.

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Re: The first global cyber war has begun

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:39 pm

Plutonia wrote:
I confess. I’m a member of Anonymous. Hail Xenu.
February 7, 2011 – 3:15 pm, by Bernard Keane

...
Among the names is my own. Yup, apparently your trusty (or completely untrustworthy, depending on your taste) Crikey Canberra correspondent is supposedly a member of Anonymous.
...




Bernard Keane????

I completely missed that.

FFS. What a joke.
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Re: The first global cyber war has begun

Postby Plutonia » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:19 am

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Also on the list Joe was "Q", the IRC bot that handles nickname changes among other things.

Can't really top that one.

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Re: The first global cyber war has begun

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:47 am

Wow
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Re: The first global cyber war has begun

Postby wintler2 » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:19 am

JackRiddler wrote:..
I have to keep making this point. If these guys are this dumb and clueless... well they're still very rich and powerful and most of them are getting richer and more powerful. Their inarguably dumb and clueless actions have enormous consequences on the rest of us. That they are dumb and clueless would have been no consolation to the poor bastard that Aaron Barr wanted to falsely nail as the CEO of Anonymous, if Barr's demented and reckless plan to do so had worked. That poor bastard would have been a direct casualty, but we are all indirectly impacted by the growth in state-sanctioned parapolitics that act outside and against the law with impunity.

The exposure of HBGary is not a case of the system working. It only happened thanks to an illegal and covert (but morally correct) guerilla action by rogue players (in their own self-defense). What the exposure of HBGary shows us, above all, is that there is a large biotope of such companies and operators engaging in freelance activities as contractors to the state and the most powerful corporations and acting to suppress political organizing, free speech and the free press. It's very much like the O'Keefe story, where O'Keefe is shown up (but continues operating!) while the network that spawned him and his buddies like Stan Dai -- of about two dozen CIA-financed campus covens of right-wing operators -- remains untouched.

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Its okay JR, tho we might marvel at their arrogant stupidity i don't think anyone is dismissing their significance or threat. Lets marvel, and be amused, and soberly help break their corp-gov conspiracy down to its component individuals and relationships and spread the news far and wide. If there are laughs to be had at their expense along the way, we should milk every one.
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Re: The first global cyber war has begun

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:04 am

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Re: The first global cyber war has begun

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:05 am

BTW I basically got all the info for that off you guys, cheers.
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Re: The first global cyber war has begun

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:47 pm

I can't access the databases of HBGary emails anymore. Anyone else, or is it our fucking internet blacklist at work?

http://hbgary.operationfreedom.ru/

It won't load anymore.

If its fucked anyone got a torrent or a mirror?

I'd love to know if it was on the ACMA blacklist. That'd suck.
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Re: The first global cyber war has begun

Postby JackRiddler » Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:56 pm

Right now "operationfreedom.ru" is down from here, too (NYC).
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Re: The first global cyber war has begun

Postby Plutonia » Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:51 am

Joe Hillshoist wrote:I can't access the databases of HBGary emails anymore. Anyone else, or is it our fucking internet blacklist at work?

http://hbgary.operationfreedom.ru/

It won't load anymore.

If its fucked anyone got a torrent or a mirror?

I'd love to know if it was on the ACMA blacklist. That'd suck.
Yeah, I keep having intermittent problems too. Don't worry there are lots of mirror sites.

These ones are working:

http://hbgary.anonleaks.ch/

http://hbgary.leakmirror.org/
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Re: The first global cyber war has begun

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:05 am

Cheers.
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Re: The first global cyber war has begun

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:11 pm

Very relevant...

IT scams, sockpuppet armies, and the rest...
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