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by Nordic » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:18 pm
justdrew wrote:just another case of western "intelligence" operatives supporting "the terrorists" - our terrorists, who we NEED in order t o justify our bullshit military adventurism. Disgusting.
by cptmarginal » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:06 pm
"CIA spy" Davis was giving nuclear bomb material to Al-Qaeda, says report
At a covert forward operating base run by the US Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) in the Pakistani port city of Karachi, members of an elite division of Blackwater are at the center of a secret program in which they plan targeted assassinations of suspected Taliban and Al Qaeda operatives, “snatch and grabs” of high-value targets and other sensitive action inside and outside Pakistan, an investigation by The Nation has found. The Blackwater operatives also assist in gathering intelligence and help direct a secret US military drone bombing campaign that runs parallel to the well-documented CIA predator strikes, according to a well-placed source within the US military intelligence apparatus.
The source, who has worked on covert US military programs for years, including in Afghanistan and Pakistan, has direct knowledge of Blackwater’s involvement. He spoke to The Nation on condition of anonymity because the program is classified. The source said that the program is so “compartmentalized” that senior figures within the Obama administration and the US military chain of command may not be aware of its existence.
But B.C.C.I. is more than just a criminal bank. From interviews with sources close to B.C.C.I., TIME has pieced together a portrait of a clandestine division of the bank called the "black network," which functions as a global intelligence operation and a Mafia-like enforcement squad. Operating primarily out of the bank's offices in Karachi, Pakistan, the 1,500-employee black network has used sophisticated spy equipment and techniques, along with bribery, extortion, kidnapping and even, by some accounts, murder. The black network -- so named by its own members -- stops at almost nothing to further the bank's aims the world over.
The more conventional departments of B.C.C.I. handled such services as laundering money for the drug trade and helping dictators loot their national treasuries. The black network, which is still functioning, operates a lucrative arms-trade business and transports drugs and gold. According to investigators and participants in those operations, it often works with Western and Middle Eastern intelligence agencies. The strange and still murky ties between B.C.C.I. and the intelligence agencies of several countries are so pervasive that even the White House has become entangled. As TIME reported earlier this month, the National Security Council used B.C.C.I. to funnel money for the Iran-contra deals, and the CIA maintained accounts in B.C.C.I. for covert operations. Moreover, investigators have told TIME that the Defense Intelligence Agency has maintained a slush-fund account with B.C.C.I., apparently to pay for clandestine activities.
The question is how did the money reach the Khan Research Laboratory,
the nuclear facility set up by the Pakistan and run by Mr AQ Khan. Most of
the funds were parked with two less-known entities--the Ghulam Ishaq Khan
Institute of Science and Technology, set up in Islamabad to honour President
Ghulam Ishaq Khan and Attock Cement Private Ltd (APCL), a factory off Dera
Ghazi Khan owned by Ghaith Pharaon, a Saudi billionaire who owns, besides
the cement unit, two oil refineries and a software firm in Pakistan. Both
these organisations had a common link: Bank of Credit and Commerce
International [BCCI]. The Institute was set up with a grant of $10 million
from the Bank. The Institute's first director was AQ Khan, a close ally of
President Khan from the days of Bhutto. Pharaon, declared a fugitive by
the US authorities, was a close friend of Abedi who helped BCCI to secretly
buy an American bank, First American, and introduce Abedi to the power
brokers in Washington DC.
An independent investigation carried out by a US Senate Committee in
1992 would pin down the Institute and the cement factory as the conduits for
the BCCI to fund Pakistan's secret programme for nuclear deals through the
Black Network. Senator John F Kerry headed the Senate Committee, which
unravelled the web of a powerful, anonymous financial underworld that
stretched from the lanes of Karachi to the White House. The BCCI was not an
ordinary bank. Nor was its owner, Agha Hassan Abedi. By 1977, the BCCI
was the world's fastest growing bank, operating from 146 branches (including
45 in the United Kingdom) in 43 countries including Africa, the East Asia
and the Americas.
Only a handful of reporters ever reported on this black network. Among the exceptions was Jack R. Payton, editor of the St. Petersburg Times, who in October 1992 wrote:
"Well I've just finished slogging through a 794-page government report on the scandal, and
believe me it's even worse than I thought. Much worse...
"Consider, for a moment, what it might mean to have an organization around that could pull off the following: Manipulate the Central Intelligence Agency and the spy agencies of Britain, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, China, Syria, Israel and who knows how many others all at the same time...; Help Pakistan buy nuclear technology on the international black market...; Launder drug money for the Medellin cocaine cartel in Colombia; Bankroll Abu Nidal, the most notorious terrorist in the world; Handle Manuel Noriega's finances in Panama; Procure prostitutes, some of them children, for traveling Middle Eastern potentates; Rig international commodity markets so that a few insiders could make hundreds of millions of dollars in a single day; Intimidate potential opponents to the point that they feared for their lives. There's a lot more, but you get the idea...
"This is scary enough as it is. The reason we may never know is that as thorough as the Senate investigation may have been, it didn't have access to reams of information that could shed more light on BCCI. The CIA has several hundred reports on BCCI but allowed the subcommittee to look at only three of them. British authorities also have a stockpile of information on BCCI they won't make available because it was classified by British intelligence, MI-5...
"But despite the years of investigation, the arrests and confiscations, even the Senate subcommittee had to admit that we may never know the full extent of BCCI's crimes, how many top politicians it bribed or if it really had a so-called "black network'' of assassins who would eliminate anyone who got in its way.
"Even so, what we do know about BCCI is mind-boggling. It's also incredibly complicated - as the Senate subcommittee itself admits, almost beyond comprehension."
by Nordic » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:17 pm
by 8bitagent » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:30 pm
Nordic wrote:I'm hoping this story could blow the lid off a bunch of shit.
I know, there I go "hoping" again ...
by JackRiddler » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:48 pm
by Nordic » Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:01 am
Most dramatically, South Asian news agency ANI reports that - according to Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service - Davis was giving nuclear and biowarfare materials to Al-Qaeda:
Double murder-accused US official Raymond Davis has been found in possession of top-secret CIA documents, which point to him or the feared American Task Force 373 (TF373) operating in the region, providing Al-Qaeda terrorists with "nuclear fissile material" and "biological agents," according to a report.
Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) is warning that the situation on the sub-continent has turned "grave" as it appears that open warfare is about to break out between Pakistan and the United States, The European Union Times reports.
The SVR warned in its report that the apprehension of 36-year-old Davis, who shot dead two Pakistani men in Lahore last month, had fuelled this crisis.
According to the report, the combat skills exhibited by Davis, along with documentation taken from him after his arrest, prove that he is a member of US' TF373 black operations unit currently operating in the Afghan War Theatre and Pakistan's tribal areas, the paper said.
While the US insists that Davis is one of their diplomats, and the two men he killed were robbers, Pakistan says that the duo were ISI agents sent to follow him after it was discovered that he had been making contact with al Qaeda, after his cell phone was tracked to the Waziristan tribal area bordering Afghanistan, the paper said.
The most ominous point in this SVR report is "Pakistan's ISI stating that top-secret CIA documents found in Davis's possession point to his, and/or TF373, providing to al Qaeda terrorists "nuclear fissile material" and "biological agents", which they claim are to be used against the United States itself in order to ignite an all-out war in order to re-establish the West's hegemony over a Global economy that is warned is just months away from collapse," the paper added.
However, ANI's allegations are uncorroborated at this time, and it is unknown whether Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service said anything of the sort.
by Nordic » Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:21 am
by Nordic » Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:40 am
NEW DELHI—What was a C.I.A. agent doing in the streets of Lahore last month with a telescope and GPS device, a camera, and loaded Glock semi-automatic pistol?
On Jan. 27, 36-year-old Raymond Davis was arrested by police in Lahore after he shot and killed two local men who he says were trying to rob him as he drove through the city in a white Honda Civic.
Davis reportedly fired nine times with his Glock and hit the two would-be robbers seven times. Pakistani officials say he shot one of his armed assailants in the back, which justifies a murder charge against him.
In the weeks since his arrest, Davis’s incarceration has touched off a diplomatic showdown between Pakistan and the U.S., and has also stoked a debate over the powerful sway the U.S. government holds over several American media outlets who agreed to scuttle stories that would have disclosed earlier that Davis is a spy.
While a Pakistan court is still mulling over whether Davis has the diplomatic immunity the U.S. says he does, several western diplomats and Pakistan experts say it’s most likely Davis would be released from custody without a trial, particularly if Pakistan’s top general, Ashfaq Kayani, wades into the controversy behind the scenes.
“The final word will come down from Kayani and I think he’s most likely to say ‘find a way to resolve this,’” said a western diplomat who was not authorized to speak publicly about the Davis case. “But the U.S. is still so worried about this because it could set a precedent for a diplomat being tried in a different country while under diplomatic immunity.”
Suba Chandran, a Pakistan expert at the Institute for Peace and Conflict Studies in New Delhi, said he doubts Kayani, widely acknowledged as Pakistan’s most powerful official, would be dragged into the Davis debate.
“He’s getting so much pressure from the U.S. but what can he do?” Chandran said. “Tell the court,you better get him released or else? He can’t afford to choose sides. I think he’s going to let this run its course.”
While some experts have predicted the U.S. might threaten to end or reduce its $3.5 billion worth of civilian and military aid to Pakistan, that’s unlikely to happen because western countries including the U.S. rely on trade routes from the Pakistani port city of Karachi to military bases in Afghanistan .
“This is a relationship that cannot be based on conflict and showdowns,” said Saba Khan, a senior journalist with the cable TV channel Express News.
Just weeks old, Davis’s case has already featured some remarkable and improbable developments.
Video footage of two of his interrogation sessions is circulating on YouTube, as are photos Davis purportedly took with his cell phone camera before his arrest.
The first video clip was taken just after Davis was brought to a Lahore police station and shows him clearly shaken after a mob trailing police demanded that he be lynched.
Davis, who wore a checked shirt and had short graying hair and stubble, explains to investigators that he needs to “tell the embassy where I’m at.” He identifies himself as a consultant at the U.S. consulate in Lahore. He asks to sit down and for some bottled water.
“Ah, pure water, Nestle?” an officer says.
“No money, no panee (water),” the officer says with a laugh.
There haven’t been many chuckles since then.
Since his arrest, Davis has slept on a foam mattress in a prison that’s home to 4,000 inmates, most of them militants. His guards have had their weapons taken away, lest they shoot him, and dogs are tasting and smelling his food to check for poison.
Davis is surely a target.
The widow of one of the men he killed committed suicide and her last words were to condemn Davis to death. That video footage was also front-page news and quickly made its way onto YouTube.
Davis’s link to the C.I.A. was first mentioned in the western press on Sunday by the London Guardian newspaper after several U.S. news organizations, including a Denver TV channel, the Associated Press and The New York Times, agreed to hold stories about Davis’s shadowy employer.
A columnist on Salon.com wrote Monday that the Times, America’s most influential broadsheet, should be “humiliated” for “allowing the U.S. Government to run around affirmatively depicting Davis as some sort of Holbrooke-like diplomat" while it concealed “ highly relevant information about Davis because the Obama administration told it to.”
The Colorado TV channel 9News learned of Davis’s link after tracking down his wife. She referred a reporter to his employer, a C.I.A. spokesperson in Washington. 9News reported the development, but quickly deleted the story from its Website.
Over the past few days, the U.S. has insisted Davis was not involved in any spying or drone operations.
In a story published Tuesday, the English-language Express Tribune quoted a Punjabi police official who said Davis was actually working with the Pakistani Taliban in a bid to stoke insecurity in Pakistan and support the argument that its cache of nuclear weapons isn’t safe.
Call records of Davis’s cellphone allegedly establish his link to 27 Taliban militants and a sectarian group known as Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, the police source said.
Pakistan law minister Babar Anwan suggested Tuesday that Davis might be traded for Pakistani Aafia Siddiqui, a 38-year-old nuclear scientist who in September was sentenced to 86 years in prison by a U.S. court for attacking American soldiers and F.B.I. agents in Afghanistan.
The journalist Khan said it’s impossible to predict what might happen with Davis because of a dispute between the federal government and Punjab state officials, where he is being held.
“The federal government would rather have him on his way but the state has made it clear that they want to know more clearly what he was doing on the ground and how many more Raymond Davises there may be out there,” she said. “It’s not just about him anymore. It’s become about America’s policies here and the drone attacks. He’s become a focal point for a lot of anger.”
by seemslikeadream » Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:10 pm
The Case Against Raymond Davis
The CIA's Killing Spree in Lahore
By MIKE WHITNEY
When CIA-agent Raymond Davis gunned down two Pakistani civilians in broad daylight on a crowded street in Lahore, he probably never imagined that the entire Washington establishment would spring to his defense. But that's precisely what happened. Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Mike Mullen, John Kerry, Leon Panetta and a number of other US bigwigs have all made appeals on Davis's behalf. None of these stalwart defenders of "the rule of law" have shown a speck of interest in justice for the victims or of even allowing the investigation to go forward so they could know what really happened. Oh, no. What Clinton and the rest want, is to see their man Davis packed onto the next plane to Langley so he can play shoot-'em-up someplace else in the world.
Does Clinton know that after Davis shot his victims 5 times in the back, he calmly strode back to his car, grabbed his camera, and photographed the dead bodies? Does she know that the two so-called "diplomats" who came to his rescue in a Land Rover (which killed a passerby) have been secretly spirited out of the country so they won't have to appear in court? Does she know that the families of the victims are now being threatened and attacked to keep them from testifying against Davis? Here's a clip from Thursday's edition of The Nation":
"Three armed men forcibly gave poisonous pills to Muhammad Sarwar, the uncle of Shumaila Kanwal, the widow of Fahim shot dead by Raymond Davis, after barging into his house in Rasool Nagar, Chak Jhumra.
Sarwar was rushed to Allied Hospital in critical condition where doctors were trying to save his life till early Thursday morning. The brother of Muhammad Sarwar told The Nation that three armed men forced their entry into the house after breaking the windowpane of one of the rooms. When they broke the glass, Muhammad Sarwar came out. The outlaws started beating him up.
The other family members, including women and children, coming out for his rescue, were taken hostage and beaten up. The three outlaws then took everyone hostage at gunpoint and forced poisonous pills down Sarwar's throat." ("Shumaila's uncle forced to take poisonous pills", The Nation)
Good show, Hillary. We're all about the rule of law in the good old USA.
But why all the intrigue and arm-twisting? Why has the State Department invoked the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations to make its case that Davis is entitled to diplomatic immunity? If Davis is innocent, then he has nothing to worry about, right? Why not let the trial go forward and stop reinforcing the widely-held belief that Davis is a vital cog in the US's clandestine operations in Pakistan?
The truth is that Davis had been photographing sensitive installations and madrassas for some time, the kind of intelligence gathering that spies do when scouting-out prospective targets. Also, he'd been in close contact with members of terrorist organizations, which suggests a link between the CIA and terrorist incidents in Pakistan. Here's an excerpt from Wednesday's The Express Tribune:
"His cell phone has revealed contacts with two ancillaries of al Qaeda in Pakistan, Tehreek-e-Taliban of Pakistan (TTP) and sectarian Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ), which has led to the public conclusion that he was behind terrorism committed against Pakistan's security personnel and its people ....This will strike people as America in cahoots with the Taliban and al Qaeda against the state of Pakistan targeting, as one official opined, Pakistan's nuclear installations." ("Raymond Davis: The plot thickens, The Express Tribune)
"Al Qaeda"? The CIA is working with "ancillaries of al Qaeda in Pakistan"? No wonder the US media has been keeping a wrap on this story for so long.
Naturally, most Pakistanis now believe that the US is colluding with terrorists to spread instability, weaken the state, and increase its power in the region. But isn't that America's M.O. everywhere?
Also, many people noticed that US drone attacks suddenly stopped as soon as Davis was arrested. Was that a coincidence? Not likely. Davis was probably getting coordinates from his new buddies in the tribal hinterland and then passing them along to the Pentagon. The drone bombings are extremely unpopular in Pakistan. More then 1400 people have been killed since August 2008, and most of them have been civilians.
And, there's more. This is from (Pakistan's) The Nation:
"A local lawyer has moved a petition in the court of Additional District and Sessions ... contending that the accused (Davis)... was preparing a map of sensitive places in Pakistan through the GPS system installed in his car. He added that mobile phone sims, lethal weapons, and videos camera were recovered from the murder accused on January 27, 2011." ("Davis mapped Pakistan targets court told", The Nation)
So, Davis's GPS chip was being used to identify targets for drone attacks in the tribal region. Most likely, he was being assisted on the other end by recruits or members of the Tehreek-e-Taliban.
A lot of extravagant claims have been made about what Davis was up to, much of which is probably just speculation. One report which appeared on ANI news service is particularly dire, but produces little evidence to support its claims. Here's an excerpt:
"Double murder-accused US official Raymond Davis has been found in possession of top-secret CIA documents, which point to him or the feared American Task Force 373 (TF373) operating in the region, providing Al-Qaeda terrorists with "nuclear fissile material" and "biological agents," according to a report.
Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) is warning that the situation on the sub-continent has turned "grave" as it appears that open warfare is about to break out between Pakistan and the United States, The European Union Times reports.....The most ominous point in this SVR report is "Pakistan's ISI stating that top-secret CIA documents found in Davis's possession point to his, and/or TF373, providing to al Qaeda terrorists "nuclear fissile material" and "biological agents", which they claim are to be used against the United States itself in order to ignite an all-out war in order to re-establish the West's hegemony over a Global economy that is warned is just months away from collapse," the paper added. ("CIA Spy Davis was giving nuclear bomb material to Al Qaeda, says report", ANI)
Although there's no way to prove that this is false, it seems like a bit of a stretch. But that doesn't mean that what Davis was up to shouldn't be taken seriously. Quite the contrary. If Davis was working with Tehreek-e-Taliban, (as alleged in many reports) then we can assume that the war on terror is basically a ruse to advance a broader imperial agenda. According to Sify News, the president of Pakistan, Asif Ali Zardari, believes this to be the case. Here's an excerpt:
"Zalmay Khalilzad, the former US envoy to Afghanistan, once brushed off Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari's claim, that the US was "arranging" the (suicide) attacks by Pakistani Taliban inside his country, as 'madness', and was of the view that both Zardari and Afghan President Hamid Karzai, who believed in this US conspiracy theory, were "dysfunctional" leaders.
The account of Zardari's claim about the US' hand in the attacks has been elaborately reproduced by US journalist Bob Woodward, on Page 116 of his famous book 'Obama's Wars,' The News reported.
Woodward's account goes like this: "One evening during the trilateral summit (in Washington, between Obama, Karzai and Zardari) Zardari had dinner with Zalmay Khalilzad, the 58-year-old former US ambassador to Afghanistan, Iraq and the UN, during the Bush presidency.
"Zardari dropped his diplomatic guard. He suggested that one of the two countries was arranging the attacks by the Pakistani Taliban inside his country: India or the US. Zardari didn't think India could be that clever, but the US could. Karzai had told him the US was behind the attacks, confirming the claims made by the Pakistani ISI."
"Mr President," Khalilzad said, "what would we gain from doing this? You explain the logic to me."
"This was a plot to destabilize Pakistan, Zardari hypothesized, so that the US could invade and seize its nuclear weapons. He could not explain the rapid expansion in violence otherwise. And the CIA had not pursued the leaders of the Pakistani Taliban, a group known as Tehreek-e-Taliban or TTP that had attacked the government. TTP was also blamed for the assassination of Zardari's wife, Benazir Bhutto." ("Pakistan President says CIA Involved in Plot to Destabilize Country and Seize Nukes", Sify News)
Zardari's claim will sound familiar to those who followed events in Iraq. Many people are convinced that the only rational explanation for the wave of bombings directed at civilians, was that the violence was caused by those groups who stood to gain from a civil war.
And who might that be?
Despite the Obama administration's efforts to derail the investigation, the case against Davis is going forward. Whether he is punished or not is irrelevant. This isn't about Davis anyway. It's a question of whether the US is working hand-in-hand with the very organizations that it publicly condemns in order to advance its global agenda. If that's the case, then the war on terror is a fraud.
by cptmarginal » Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:15 pm
Nordic wrote:Shit. Sorsha Faal is again muddying the waters:
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1448.htm
How much of this:
http://in.news.yahoo.com/cia-spy-davis- ... er=nokilli
Actually comes from Sorsha Faal's bullshit?
I dunno.
Either way, there's a hell of a lot of evidence this guy was up to some serious false-flag type shit.
Sites Getting Punked By David Booth/Sorcha Faal Right Now
February 24th, 2011
Guys, please (PLEASE!) make sure you’re not helping to spread David Booth/Sorcha Faal/Sucha Fool nonsense.
People have sent in about a dozen suggestions for a story that originated with David Booth. Sites are getting punked left and right with this.
Attention: The source for the CIA Spy Captured Giving Nuclear Bomb To Terrorists story is David Booth who perpetuates hoaxes on the Internet under the name, “Sorcha Faal.” I’m not linking to his bullshit. I’m sure you can find out more on your own if you’re interested.
Note: Here’s how to see the old whois information for that site of his.
That is all.
by Nordic » Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:17 pm
by cptmarginal » Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:32 pm
"His cell phone has revealed contacts with two ancillaries of al Qaeda in Pakistan, Tehreek-e-Taliban of Pakistan (TTP) and sectarian Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ), which has led to the public conclusion that he was behind terrorism committed against Pakistan's security personnel and its people ....This will strike people as America in cahoots with the Taliban and al Qaeda against the state of Pakistan targeting, as one official opined, Pakistan's nuclear installations."
[...]
"A local lawyer has moved a petition in the court of Additional District and Sessions ... contending that the accused (Davis)... was preparing a map of sensitive places in Pakistan through the GPS system installed in his car. He added that mobile phone sims, lethal weapons, and videos camera were recovered from the murder accused on January 27, 2011." ("Davis mapped Pakistan targets court told", The Nation)
Well it seems clear he was recruiting for "Al Queda" and was involved with a lot of shenanigans in that regard. That's not coming from Sascha Faal but from inside Pakistan.
The nuke stuff, and the desire to start a war with Pakistan, seems to be all Faal.
by seemslikeadream » Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:25 pm
Pakistani Agency Demands Data on C.I.A. Contractors
By JANE PERLEZ
Published: February 25, 2011
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Pakistan’s chief spy agency has demanded an accounting by the Central Intelligence Agency of all its contractors working in Pakistan, a fallout from the arrest last month of an American involved in surveillance of militant groups, a senior Pakistani intelligence official said Friday.
Angered that the American, Raymond A. Davis, worked as a contractor in Pakistan on covert C.I.A. operations without the knowledge of the Pakistanis, the spy agency estimated that there were “scores” more such contractors “working behind our backs,” the official said.
In a slight softening of the Pakistani stance since Mr. Davis’s arrest, the official said that the American and Pakistani intelligence agencies needed to continue cooperation, and that Pakistan was prepared to put the episode in the past if the C.I.A. stopped treating its Pakistani counterparts as inferior.
“Treat us as allies, not as satellites,” said the official of the Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence, or I.S.I. “Respect, equality and trust are needed.”
The arrest and detention of Mr. Davis, 36, after he shot and killed two motorcyclists in the city of Lahore, soured already testy relations between two governments that are supposed to have a common front in the fight against terrorism.
The top American and Pakistani military leaders, including the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Mike Mullen, and the leader of the Pakistani Army, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, met this week in Oman, where the Davis case was discussed. .
According to a report by a former head of the Pakistani Army, Gen. Jehangir Karamat, who runs a think tank based in Lahore, both sides agreed to try to “arrest the downhill descent.”
Even so, the Pakistani intelligence community was divided over how quickly to settle the Davis case and how much to extract from the C.I.A., said a Pakistani official with intimate knowledge of the situation who declined to be named because of the delicacy of the issue.
At a minimum, the I.S.I. wanted an accounting for all the contractors who work for the C.I.A. in roles that have not been defined to Pakistan, and a general rewriting of the rules of engagement by the C.I.A. in Pakistan, the official said.
Mr. Davis, who appeared in handcuffs on Friday for a hearing in a closed courtroom at the jail where he is being held in Lahore, faces possible murder charges.
The Obama administration insists that Mr. Davis has diplomatic immunity and should be released. The Pakistani government has left the determination on diplomatic immunity to the Foreign Office and a hearing before the Lahore High Court on March 14.
Some senior Pakistani intelligence officers were unwilling to have Mr. Davis released under almost any circumstances, said the official with knowledge of the split in the intelligence community.
He said others wanted to use the Davis case as a bargaining chip to get the withdrawal of a civil lawsuit filed in Brooklyn last year that implicates the I.S.I. chief, Lt. Gen. Ahmed Shuja Pasha, in the November 2008 terrorist attacks in Mumbai, India.
The demand for the C.I.A. to acknowledge the number of contractors in Pakistan was driven by the suspicion that the American spy service had slipped many such secret operatives into Pakistan in the past six months, the senior I.S.I. official said.
The increase came after a directive last July by the Pakistani civilian government, which is often at odds with the I.S.I., to its Washington embassy to expedite visas without supervision from the I.S.I. or the Ministry of Interior, the senior I.S.I. official said.
The behavior of people like Mr. Davis was deeply embarrassing to the I.S.I. because it made the agency “look like fools” in the eyes of the anti-American Pakistani public, the I.S.I. official said.
The Davis case made it difficult to explain to Pakistanis why the I.S.I. was cooperating with Washington, he said.
The clampdown on American contractors by the Pakistani authorities appeared to be under way Friday with the arrest of an American citizen, Aaron Mark DeHaven, in the northwestern city of Peshawar.
The Peshawar police said Mr. DeHaven was detained because he had overstayed his business visa after his request for an extension last October was turned down.
There was no immediate accusation that Mr. DeHaven worked for the American government, a security official in Peshawar said. But the arrest of Mr. DeHaven, who is married to a Pakistani woman, appears to be a signal that the Pakistani authorities have decided to expel Americans they have doubts about.
Mr. DeHaven owned a firm, Catalyst Services in Peshawar, that rented houses for Americans in the city, the security official said.
During his first months in Pakistan in early 2010, Mr. Davis was attached to the American Consulate in Peshawar and lived in a house with other Americans in an upscale neighborhood, according to Pakistani officials.
The American Embassy in Islamabad said in a statement that it did not have details about Mr. DeHaven but was arranging consular access for him through the Pakistani government.
At the 20-minute court hearing, Mr. Davis told the judge he would not take part in the proceedings because he had diplomatic immunity, Pakistani officials told reporters later.
He refused to sign the charge sheet presented to him, the officials said.
The Obama administration insists that Mr. Davis acted in self-defense when the two motorcyclists tried to rob him while he was driving on a busy road in Lahore.
In the charge sheet, the Pakistani police said Mr. Davis shot the victims multiple times from inside his car, and then stepped from the car and continued shooting with his Glock pistol. Mr. Davis then drove from the scene and was arrested several miles away, the police said.
At Friday Prayer in mosques in Lahore and in Islamabad, the capital, anti-American sermons, in some cases laced with references to Mr. Davis, were common.
Hafiz Saeed, the founder of the militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba, which Mr. Davis is believed to have been conducting surveillance on, said the American was “a spy, committing terrorism, helping in drone attacks.”
Banners reading “Hang Davis” and “No immunity to Davis” were strung across the road adjacent to Mr. Saeed’s headquarters.
by chump » Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:29 am
cptmarginal wrote:Nordic wrote:Shit. Sorsha Faal is again muddying the waters:
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1448.htm
How much of this:
http://in.news.yahoo.com/cia-spy-davis- ... er=nokilli
Actually comes from Sorsha Faal's bullshit?
I dunno.
Either way, there's a hell of a lot of evidence this guy was up to some serious false-flag type shit.
http://cryptogon.com/?p=20740Sites Getting Punked By David Booth/Sorcha Faal Right Now
February 24th, 2011
Guys, please (PLEASE!) make sure you’re not helping to spread David Booth/Sorcha Faal/Sucha Fool nonsense.
People have sent in about a dozen suggestions for a story that originated with David Booth. Sites are getting punked left and right with this.
Attention: The source for the CIA Spy Captured Giving Nuclear Bomb To Terrorists story is David Booth who perpetuates hoaxes on the Internet under the name, “Sorcha Faal.” I’m not linking to his bullshit. I’m sure you can find out more on your own if you’re interested.
Note: Here’s how to see the old whois information for that site of his.
That is all.
And considering what kind of bullshit is propagated by Faal (& Madsen etc. too) every time an incident like this happens, I am still really wondering what happened here. Not for a second did I mean to suggest in my above post that I take the "nukes for al-Qaeda" scenario seriously. It sounds like exactly the sort of disinfo that can easily be expected to swirl around stuff like this (remember Roland Carnaby?). My immediate linking of this to the basically still-extant "BCCI black network" was based solely on the fact that he's a Blackwater employee in Pakistan.
I'd wager that we never find out why these guys died; after all, we've got an answer now & it happens to be an unspeakable conspiracy theory. Even with the media attention that this case will continue to attract, probably the best we'll get is a job description for Davis. Nothing specific about why he had to dangerously expose himself. Just my guess, that's all.
Unidentified men fed poisonous pills to Sarwar (centre) and physically assaulted him.
LAHORE: Unidentified people attempted to kill the uncle of Shumaila, the widow who poisoned herself after her husband Faheem was gunned down by US citizen Raymond Davis on Thursday. Shumaila’s uncle Sarwar has been admitted to hospital in critical condition.
According to eye witnesses, three unidentified men jumped over the walls of Sarwar’s house and hit him on the head repeatedly with stones. They also forcefully made him eat pesticide pills.
Neighbours intervened after hearing the noise, but the assailants fled after assaulting the neighbours. Allied Hospital MS Dr Rana Bashir has confirmed that Sarwar’s stomach had been washed and he is now out of danger.
Sarwar’s brother told Express News that some people had threatened Sarwar to withdraw from the Raymond Davis case or they would kill him. He appealed to the Punjab chief minister to provide the family justice. RPO Aftab Cheema said action would be taken against the culprits after investigation.
Pressure on both sides
According to an earlier report in The Express Tribune, the families of the two people allegedly murdered by Raymond Davis are coming under pressure from politicians and religious groups not to strike any deals that would allow for Davis’ release.
Waseem Shamshad, elder brother of Faheem, one of the young men killed, told The Express Tribune that the families are coming under conflicting pressures. He claimed that on one hand the government is pressuring the victims’ families to withdraw the case against Davis, while several religious and political groups were pressuring them not to accept any deal that would allow Davis to walk free.
by seemslikeadream » Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:33 am
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