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Re: Anonymous to bring down Bernanke and banks

Postby jingofever » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:21 pm

Yves Smith says:

The example of Fairbanks, a standalone servicer who subprime portfolio got in trouble in 2002, is that servicers who are losing money start abusing customers and investors to restore profits. Fairbanks charged customers for force placed insurance and as part of its consent decree, paid large fines and fired its CEO (who was also fined).

So these companies could be looking at some stiff fines (but not so large as to make the fraud a loss for them). It doesn't matter what the banks do. They're either fined, or if they really screw things up, bailed out. Jail is not an option.

Edit: The government may only fine the banks, but might the pension funds sue them (if I understand the summary JackRiddler posted about investors being scammed)?
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Re: Anonymous to bring down Bernanke and banks

Postby WakeUpAndLive » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:30 pm

jingofever wrote:Yves Smith says:

The example of Fairbanks, a standalone servicer who subprime portfolio got in trouble in 2002, is that servicers who are losing money start abusing customers and investors to restore profits. Fairbanks charged customers for force placed insurance and as part of its consent decree, paid large fines and fired its CEO (who was also fined).

So these companies could be looking at some stiff fines (but not so large as to make the fraud a loss for them). It doesn't matter what the banks do. They're either fined, or if they really screw things up, bailed out. Jail is not an option.

Edit: The government may only fine the banks, but might the pension funds sue them (if I understand the summary JackRiddler posted about investors being scammed)?


Man if these people went to jail they would be killed. The fake criminals in jail hate the real criminals in banking/politics/etc....
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Re: Anonymous to bring down Bernanke and banks

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:59 pm

Cenk Uygur did a piece on this tonight on his show, even played the Anonymous video! :D


Unions have 1 bilion dollars in that M & I bank
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Anonymous to bring down Bernanke and banks

Postby 2012 Countdown » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:59 pm

seemslikeadream wrote:Cenk Uygur did a piece on this tonight on his show, even played the Anonymous video! :D


Unions have 1 bilion dollars in that M & I bank




Cenk is an absolute HAMMER on this issue. Sorry to have missed the MSNBC show. I listen to The Young Turks podcast downloaded from Itunes though, and listen to it the next day. Love the Uygar. I'm sure today's download is going to be good.

So Unions are withdrawing 1B from M&I? Wow.
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Re: Anonymous to bring down Bernanke and banks

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:18 pm

2012 Countdown wrote:
So Unions are withdrawing 1B from M&I? Wow.



not yet they only took out $200,000 from a Wisconsin bank before it shut it's doors. They just hinted they could withdraw that much cause they could :)
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Re: Anonymous to bring down Bernanke and banks

Postby Plutonia » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:02 am

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On one front after another, the Federal Reserve is coming under siege. On Saturday, to begin, the hacker group calling itself “Anonymous” issued a video manifesto calling for “a relentless campaign of nonviolent, peaceful civil disobedience.”

“We aim to break up the global banking cartel centered at the Federal Reserve, International Monetary Fund, Bank of International Settlements [sic] and World Bank,” Anonymous says.

The group has been around for years, but made its biggest impact last fall, when WikiLeaks began releasing its stash of State Department cables. As Amazon, PayPal, Visa and MasterCard all cut off their business ties with WikiLeaks, Anonymous launched “distributed denial of service” attacks – basically slamming their websites with so much traffic until they were forced to shut down.

“As a first sign of good faith,” says the manifesto, “we demand Ben Bernanke step down as Federal Reserve chairman.”

Monday morning, Anonymous released some emails given to them by a former employee at Bank of America. The emails are separate from the BoA documents that WikiLeaks is sitting on.

The emails haven’t been independently verified, but they appear to show that, among other things, loan numbers were routinely falsified with the intent of putting mortgage holders in default. You think the “robo-signing” scandal was a big deal? Wait until this one gets legs.

Anonymous is nothing if not ambitious. And they have a rising tide of public anger on their side.

Then, on the same day the tsunami devoured 100 miles of Japanese coastline, New York Fed chief William Dudley – a 21-year vet of Goldman Sachs – stepped out of his bubble to explain Fed policy to real people in Queens.

It might not have been the first time Dudley attempted to gain the trust of the hoi polloi, but we’re pretty sure it’ll be the last. The details here were reported widely. We divined the scene from a Reuters report.

First Dudley swore up and down that inflation was no problem. “When was the last time, sir,” came a reply from the audience, “that you went grocery shopping?” Dudley boldly proceeded to explain the concept of “core CPI” – the cost-of-living measure designed for people who don’t eat or consume energy. We know firsthand how well that goes over.

Then in a brilliant stroke, he pointed to Apple’s shiny new iPad 2 to illustrate his point. “Today you can buy an iPad 2 that costs the same as an iPad 1 that is twice as powerful,” he gamely explained. “You have to look at the prices of all things.”

“I can’t eat an iPad,” someone yelled from the crowd. How big a leap is it from “I can’t eat an iPad” to “douse myself with gasoline and light my body on fire in the street,”
we wondered while reading the report. Depends entirely on who’s listening, we suspect.



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Re: Anonymous to bring down Bernanke and banks

Postby hava1 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:35 am

thanks. I think the worst part of it is how easily they "re arrange" the records...

I've had the problem a few years ago with my bank (in ISrael), namely, that they admitted that some withdrawals do not have a "bonne" , namely, that someone erased the records. They reimbursed me only for the withdrawals but not for the chain effect it had (exceeding my credit etc. etc.). It was the first time I heard a bank tell me the record is "missing".

The second scam, namely the cancellation and purchase of overpriced insurance, while receiving kickback AND charging it to the owner, reminds me of the method of "Zombie" debts, when lawyers and collectors resurrect old debts, in cohutes with the creditor, to lay expenses of collection on the debtor.

Usually those types of "third world" crimes are available only when the legal/judicial system is paralized or inadequate.

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hava1 wrote:can anyone sum it up in two sentences ? I read the emails and didnt understand, except that they were going to tamper with records.



These are "document tracking numbers," a number assigned to all incoming/outgoing documents (letters, insurance documents, etc).

A woman with Balboa Insurance replies:

I have spoken with my developer and she stated that we cannot remove the DTNís from Rembrandt, but she can remove the loan numbers, so the documents will not show as matched to those loans.

I will need upper management approval from Jason, Peggy and Kirsten, since this is an usual request, before we move forward.

Rembrandt is the insurance tracking system.

Peggy with upper management replies, "Where will these letters show up then?" The woman from Balboa responds, "The letters will not show in Rembrandt if you search by loan number. If you search by DTN, you will find the document, but it will not be matched to any loan."

The numbers' removal are then "approved."

The operations manager expresses his concern:

I'm just a little concerned about the impact this has on the department and company. Why are we removing all record of this error? We have told Denise Cahen, and there is always going to be the paper trail when one of these sent documents come back, this to me, seems to be a huge red flag for the auditors: example: a scanned document that was mailed to us asking why the letter was received when the letter, albeit erroneous ñ this being the letters that went out in error ñ the auditor sees the erroneous letter but no SOR [System of Record] trail or scanned doc on the corrected letter is in the SOR and scanned in). What am I missing? This just doesnít seem right to me.


In this specific scenario, I believe what happened is false/fraudulent letters of foreclosure were sent out to various properties, some of which should not be foreclosed. The company Balboa Insurance, to save their and BoA asses, quickly removed the association between the letter and loan #. If in the Rembrandt system (http://www.wolterskluwerfs.com/Content/ ... nding.aspx) you were to search the loan of one of these properties there would be no foreclosure notice associated with it. You could still search for the foreclosure notice, but no loans would be associated with it. This was approved by managers.


I believe the pictures are the actual foreclosure notices that got sent out, but I'm not 100% sure. *edit* Just re-read the article: so those numbers are the "document tracking numbers". So just like I thought, these are the numbers associated with the foreclosure letters, but they removed the DTN from the loan paperwork, so you cannot find the document that was sent by searching for the loan.
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Re: Anonymous to bring down Bernanke and banks

Postby 2012 Countdown » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:24 am

Great interview!
Regular listener of Sam Seder here...about two thirds in the interview, the real scandal withing government as well is discussed...
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Monday, March 14, 2011 [54:33] Hide Player | Play in Popup | DownloadGuest: Author and journalist Yves Smith

Yves Smith, author and founder of Naked Capitalism.com joins Sam to discuss the recent dump of Bank of America emails by the hacktivists Anonymous and she explains what they expose about the way BOA made tons of money in an insurance scam.Check out Yves Smith’s book ECONned: How Unenlightened Self Interest Undermined Democracy and Corrupted Capitalism

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Re: Anonymous to bring down Bernanke and banks

Postby pepsified thinker » Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:03 am

I've heard/read accounts of people trying to deal with banks--refinance or clear up a notice of a foreclosure that shouldn't be happening, etc.--and they get stuck in endless circles of calling and sending documents and being told everything is okay, but the banks still foreclose.

If this disconnecting of documents (is that a fair way to describe the dissociation of DTNs(?) and loan numbers?) is a general practice that would explain how the homeowners could talk to someone, get assurance that they'd now done the right thing with whatever forms they were submitting, etc., but then the bank would later deny such forms had been submitted and the foreclosure process would continue.

Or is that too simplistic?
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Re: Anonymous to bring down Bernanke and banks

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:33 am

pepsified thinker wrote:I've heard/read accounts of people trying to deal with banks--refinance or clear up a notice of a foreclosure that shouldn't be happening, etc.--and they get stuck in endless circles of calling and sending documents and being told everything is okay, but the banks still foreclose.

If this disconnecting of documents (is that a fair way to describe the dissociation of DTNs(?) and loan numbers?) is a general practice that would explain how the homeowners could talk to someone, get assurance that they'd now done the right thing with whatever forms they were submitting, etc., but then the bank would later deny such forms had been submitted and the foreclosure process would continue.

Or is that too simplistic?


First of all, I may not have any idea.

But when I see the following graphic of how title on a single mortgage is typically shifted around a few dozen entities, which I've posted a few times, --

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-- I think, the only way this system is set up in the first place is because a whole bunch of someones must want to make the process so impossibly convoluted that they can get away not just with insurance fraud but with anything. That included not even knowing themselves what the hell they were selling as components of the various debt-backed securities. (This was covered in the CNBC documentary "House of Cards" when the example of a Norwegian town that had gone bankrupt buying mortgage-backed "AAA" securities from JPM later discovered it wasn't even mortgages but some other debts, and no one could figure out what. Pretty good early treatment of the housing bubble to securities fraud scams, ee http://www.cnbc.com/id/28892719)

For an easy rundown on MERS, see here:
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Re: Anonymous to bring down Bernanke and banks

Postby Plutonia » Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:49 am

2011-03-16
The Latest on Emails Between Ex-Bank of America Employee & Anonymous
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An “open letter” from the ex-Bank of America employee was recently posted on the website Anonymous has been using to share the leaked emails.
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“I’ve already read their plan of action against me. Anonymous leaked it for the world to see months ago,” he adds. “While “Anonymous” BofA executives huddle together and cower behind their corporate logo, hoping their corporate name can withstand a greater shitstorm than mine, we’ve both been reading the exact same battle plan. Don’t be fooled by press releases. The HB Gary plan cost a lot of the money from their piggy bank, and they’re not ones to let their own money go to waste.”

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I’m not afraid of you. I’m not some distant, unapproachable eccentric like Julian Assange. Sensationalize all you want, but your employees all know me, and they’re slowly starting to figure out why it is you did what you did to me. I live in your backyard. Drag my name through the mud all you want. I can take it. I’ve got more friends in more high places than you think. While the media races to be the first to report any story they can about me to make their money, I’m neither making nor losing money on this. You took my statement of “I’ve got nothing to lose” as meaning I’m desperate and lonely. Get the facts straight. I’ve got a large family that’s been supporting me this entire time. I’ve got friends in places you can’t even imagine. My community knows me, and the bonds I’ve formed are backed by love, not money. When will you ever learn? I know you don’t put your personal name on your statements because you fear the legal action that will be taken against you. You do not want to be made the scapegoat for your own actions.

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The ex-employee tells Americans in his “open letter” to “hang in there.” This signals that in the coming days more will be learned about Bank of America.

Additionally, Anonymous has posted an email on the website that shows someone claiming to be a “Special Agent with TARP” asking for help investigating “HAMP violations.” The agent asks to learn more about information the Anonymous member might have on Bank of America.

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Re: Anonymous to bring down Bernanke and banks

Postby crikkett » Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:19 pm

I wonder how this particular effort is going.
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Re: Anonymous to bring down Bernanke and banks

Postby brekin » Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:07 pm

crikket wrote:

Re: Anonymous to bring down Bernanke and banks
I wonder how this particular effort is going.


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Re: Anonymous to bring down Bernanke and banks

Postby The Consul » Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:29 pm

Just watched "Inside Job" last night. Must see. These guys are NOT the geniuses they pretend to be....unless you think that Al Capone was brilliant. They are nothing other than sleazy, cowardly crooks.

Go Nony Go!!!

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Re: Anonymous to bring down Bernanke and banks

Postby JackRiddler » Sun Apr 03, 2011 5:46 pm

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I object to the "Obama-ized" Death Star, which is the Tea Party version.

This is the original, at any rate, the one that was going around years ago, and it puts the blame where it has always belonged -- on the banksters, who were around long before Obama, and who run the government today as they did before.

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I always understood the joke of this one to be, not that "TBTF" was a lie because it has a weakness that allows you to blow it up, but rather, that the banksters destroy planets (even as they claim they're indispensable). Or at any rate, they've destroyed the only planet they've got a hold of so far.

The following would be the joke that "TBTF" is ultimately doomed:

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