Nuclear Meltdown Watch

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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby Iamwhomiam » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:13 pm

Sorry I haven't been able to contribute much here and also I should mention that I've been quite busy working on enevironmental issues.

I wish eveyrone well. Please take care. The continuing nuclear catastrophe in Japan is perhaps now beyond rectifying and has become the worst environmental disaster ever experienced. The radiation released from the melted down core(s) is more damaging than Chernobyl and poses a profound risk to our health, our foods and our waters.

Earlier I related that more than 10,000 North Americans has died from the fallout from Chernobyl. I knew I had purposefully underestimated to be on the safe side. I thought the actual figure was 14,000. But that too was incorrect.

By 2004 170,000 North American deaths are attributable to Chernobyl*. People are still dying today from this one 1986 nuclear accident and assuredly more will continue to die as time passes.

But Fukushima is still an evolving crises... For years to come many will die from inhaling its infinitesimal radioactive particles, eating radioactive food and drinking radioactive water.

Please take care.

*http://www.strahlentelex.de/Yablokov%20Chernobyl%20book.pdf

DO not feel silly wearing a protective mask. Now self-protection has become essential for survival.

If you're planning on gardening, planting vegetables for food, I would suggest you build a plastic greenhouse to grow them in and to find a source of clean well-water for their nourishment as well as for your intake and bathing.

It should come as no surprise, all this secrecy.

The timing of our involvement in Libya was chosen specifically to bump Fukushima 2 off of the front pages of our world's newspapers.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby 82_28 » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:23 pm

My girlfriend is outside right now gardening, Iamwhoiam, are you completely serious about this? I know you are. But, it really is that serious here, in Seattle and elsewhere in North America?

Also, continuing on with the microwave thing I brought up. Isn't HAARP an extremely powerful microwave emitter? Which, may or may not have also "caused" this on going earthquake.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby The Consul » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:46 pm

Increased cancer rates are also connected (then highly denied) to non-ion radiation. It's not just the microwave: it's the radio, the TV, the lights, the fridge, the coffee maker. Carter instigated an investigation on this but they shut it down once they saw where the data was going to lead them - Cancerville. Disordertopia, Mutation Nation. The excitation of d orbital molecules in the organic matter that is us, well, let's just say the externalities of our modern lifestyle are a many layered shitcake souffle.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby 82_28 » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:56 pm

Ran Prieur once had some fancy pants theories and links about the healthfulness of a few cigarettes a day being healthy. Didn't bother me none, since I smoke a pack a day. In my view, if you only smoke two cigarettes a day, you ain't no smoker and have nothing at all to worry about.

Anyways, I can't find it as it is before his permalink days. But it went like this, smoking can actually be good for you as it coats your lungs in mucus, which end up getting coughed out. It protects from inhaling radioactive particles. Same goes with airborne germs and substances like asbestos.

I have a friend who is a doctor and smokes (or used to smoke but since had a baby) and I asked her about this a few years ago. She said she agreed, but that to even bring such a thing up would cause her to lose all funding because as she said, most doctors, the industry, is filled with idiots and to upset the anti-smoking cart would cost her her career.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby StarmanSkye » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:56 pm

82_28 and WAKEUPANDLIVE (BTW, LUV the handdle!)

THANX! for the illuminating wake-up-call report and testimony on the very REAL dangers of microwaving foods and water!

Damn, I never realized ...

I only use it to reheat food, but vow to never, ever, do so again. I'll also tell everyone I know. That's just too outrageous for words, here I thought I was reasonably well-informed about dangerous stuff like Aspartame and vaccines, synthetic 'butter' made from fake cream-like stuff like margarine, but didn't know this, like Russia banning microwaves after study and Europe regulating their use, and the infowars microwave industry conspiracy attacking public-safety whistleblowers -- that last is enough to poison me against 'em, why else would they act to extra-legally silence someone about publicizing his study-results noting their danger if their special-interest didn't harm the public? They could just have refuted his results and destroyed his credibility by proving him wrong, apparently they couldn't. The microwave industry placed profits way ahead of public safety -- I can scarcelu believe how successful their lobby has been, I don't suppose more than 3 or 4 out of 100 really knows how dangerous, ie in creating carcinogenics from food substances like amino acids and lipids, they are.

Damn, that's just awfully horrible-atrocious, so unspeakably devious and downright evil-maliciously criminal -- a lot like Searle's Nutra-Sweet being approved by the FDA despite all the evidence condemning it as a poison thru behind-the-scenes coercion by Rumsfeld. That gets me to thinking, there ought to be a new word for that kind of ruthless behind-the-scenes unconscionable conniving duplicity, fraud & betrayal of the public trust for special-interest gain, "Rumsfeldian".

Lawful lethal injection, electric chairing, even hanging would be too quick and merciful for someone of his long career inflicting misery, suffering and death.

I'd hold out for something like the ancient Chinese practice of Death by one-thousand cuts ...
My understanding of how extended, drawn-out the affair usually was is taken from the post-modern Romanticized adventure tale of Marco Polo called 'The Journeyor' written by Gary Jennings (who also wrote Azteca, another richly-rewarding read that is inventively intriguing. The torture is variously attributed to Oriental or Indian origins, even associated with Caligula.

From Snopes.com article by Felessan circa 2003:
"I've seen a fictional treatment of the Death of a Thousand Cuts that stuck in the mind.
Gary Jennings' "The Journeyer" had Marco Polo meeting Kubilai Khan's torturer, one Ping, who was known as "The Fondler". He explained the Death of a Thousand at length. The victim was secured and Ping would, after meditating, take up a basket containing 1,000 slips of paper each with the name of a part of the human body thereon. 332 parts were indentified three times each. Once Ping had drawn a piece of paper he would inflict a torture on the body part mentioned, then draw another after a suitable pause. Properly drawn out, the Death of a Thousand might go on for weeks.
"The four papers left over were in the nature of mercy strikes - if drawn, they would direct Ping to kill the victim instantly."

Perhaps just contemplating that fate as just punishment for crimes that transcend social convention for some suitable time might be enough. It gets to the idea of punishment as a form of object-lesson instruction to reinforce legal and social codes of behavior.


BTW 82_28 -- What a kinky coink, I too am a real, genuine pack-a-day smoker (handrolled, generally additive & chemical-free) -- I sorta subscribe to the mucus-coating theory meownself. Accidents have battered and bruised and damaged and variously broken my body, 'innoculated' by adversity & hard knocks, but I'm a pretty healthy, resiliant & resourceful knockabout dude just the same. Or because of? I guess I'm proof, whatever don't kill ya makes ya a tuff ol' summabitch.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby Nordic » Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:59 am

100 kilowatts per
cubic centimetre per second


Do you have any idea how much energy that is? That's an insane amount of energy. I don't think that figure could possibly be right.

Sorry but that entire article seems pretty bogus.

Life-energy Field Breakdown: Persons near microwave ovens
in operation experience a breakdown in their life-energy
fields which increases relative to the length of exposure.


WTF is a "Life energy field". Sounds like infomercial-speak.

That article, whatever it is, is certainly not scientific.

That being said, I've never trusted microwaves, not one bit. Hate 'em in fact.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby Nordic » Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:02 am

WakeUpAndLive wrote:Nordic, did your parents grow up in southern california as well?? It may have even been you who posted that video about the Simi Valley test reactor that used some sodium coolant which failed and sent radioactivity everywhere. Because it was a test facility there was no required containment structure and resulted in a lot of radiation in the atmosphere. My grandpa died of leukemia in 1994, ever since hearing about that reactor I've questioned its role.



No, she grew up in St. Louis, a little area called Overland.

I want to find some maps of cancer incidence, if they exist, that might show me something about that area.

I can't remember if I posted that video or not here, I shared it on FB at the very least, so I remember exactly what you're talking about.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby tazmic » Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:34 am

The Consul wrote:Increased cancer rates are also connected (then highly denied) to non-ion radiation. [...] let's just say the externalities of our modern lifestyle are a many layered shitcake souffle.

That nice new carpet smell? http://www.ehow.com/list_6702764_chemicals-new-carpet.html
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby Iamwhomiam » Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:39 am

With a great sadness 82, I assure you I have never before been as concerned or more serious. I've been advising all I know with young children to keep them indoors as much as is possible even though that offers very little protection.

I will be eating no fresh foods this year and won't be planting my garden.

I do have well-water and feel that it will be safe until after next spring's snow melt and runoff. The southern hemisphere will be the safest place to be for the next year or so, but eventually the radiation will become detectable world-wide. Some has a very short half-life like one of the iodine isotopes 7.8 days, while another iodine isotope has a half-life of over a billion years.

Thanks for posting on microwaved foods. Dr. David O. Carpenter is an expert in this field: http://www.albany.edu/news/8212.php He is a friend and an ally. We are electro-magnetic fields and our bodies are affected by electrical fields generated by electric motors and devices.

Regarding Haarp: haarp is capable of producing extremely low frequency radio waves as well as very high frequency microwaves. I'm sure most are aware of resonance. Lasers are coherent light of a single frequency. They become weapons through resonance, which is the amplification or the 'a' in that word.

I personally do not believe Haarp is responsible for the earthquake though, through resonance, such low frequency waves could become resonant and cause the earth to vibrate like a bell. Those vibrations could affect fault lines to slip.

Nordic, I'm saddened by your personal relation's stories. It is very likely, though completely unprovable, that your mother's thyroid cancer was caused by above-ground nuclear testing. In the 50's my sister was treated with x-rays for an enlarged thyroid, an insane practice.

I must point out though, there are many causes of dementia besides Alzheimer's disease and that there is only one kind of Alzheimer's disease. When I attended nursing school back in the 70s, it was relatively unknown. Organic Brain Syndrome, OBS, is the loss of blood flow to the brain that is caused by hardened arteries and plaque blockages was the generic term for those suffering from memory loss and many who were assigned this label actually had Alzheimer's, which only can be accurately diagnosed by autopsy.

Currently, Alzheimer's is the 'in' generic label for those suffering from dementia.

By the way, every state is required to map occurrences of cancers and report them to a federal agency, the ATSDR, the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby 82_28 » Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:52 am

Is there anything you recommend as far as detecting traces of radiation in a garden and other fresh foods?

You're really not going to eat any fresh vegetables this year? How widespread is this sentiment among your environmental circles?
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby Peachtree Pam » Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:24 am

Here is an absolutely fascinating interview with Leuren Moret concerning Fukushima. She has no doubts that this was an example of electronic warfare involving HAARP. She also discusses Katrina and gives startling info on the real purpose of chemtrails. Whether you agree with her or not she really is an activist in educating people about the monsters that have control over so many aspects of our life.

Thanks to Slad I finally got a video up!




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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:02 am

Level 7
Japan's Nuclear Volcano Erupts

By MIKE WHITNEY

Shares plunged across Europe, Asia and the United States on Tuesday as the crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant deepened and Japan’s Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency raised its radiological event scale to its highest level. Conditions at the stricken facility have steadily deteriorated despite the valiant efforts of emergency workers. The station continues to spew lethal amounts of radiation and other toxins into the atmosphere and around the world. A French nuclear group has warned that children and pregnant mothers should protect themselves from the fallout. According to Euractiv:

"The risks associated with iodine-131 contamination in Europe are no longer ‘negligible,’ according to CRIIRAD, a French research body on radioactivity. The NGO is advising pregnant women and infants against ‘risky behavior,’ such as consuming fresh milk or vegetables with large leaves."

The group's warning underlines the dangers posed by the out-of-control facility which is causing unprecedented damage to earth, sea and sky. But while the disaster continues to grow larger by the day, the government's only response has been to expand the evacuation zone and try to shape news to minimize the public backlash.

Emergency crews have braved high levels of radiation to bring the plant back under control, but with little success. A number of violent tremors and a second smaller tsunami have made their jobs nearly impossible. Thousands of gallons of radioactive water that was used as coolant has been flushed into the sea threatening marine life and sensitive habitat. The toxic release of radiation now poses an incalculable risk to the battered fishing industry and to fish-stocks around the world. These costs were never factored in when industry executives and politicians decided to exploit an energy source that can cause cancer, pollute the environment for millennia, and bring the world's third largest economy to its knees.

Raising the alert-rating to its highest level is an admission that a “major release of radioactive material with widespread health and environmental effects" has taken place and will likely continue for some time to come. The situation is getting worse by the day. Japan's government will now insist on the "implementation of planned and extended countermeasures.” In other words, a red alert. The threat to water supplies, food sources, livestock and humans is grave and ongoing. The media's efforts to protect the nuclear industry by downplaying the scale of the catastrophe have been moderately successful, but public awareness is rising as more people turn to alternate sources of information. The disaster has been as ruinous to the media's reputation as it has been to the environment.

This is from Reuters:

"Japan's economics minister warned on Tuesday that the economic damage from last month's earthquake and tsunami is likely to be worse than initially thought as power shortages will crimp factory output and restrict supply chains.

“The more sober assessment came as Japan raised the severity of its nuclear crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant to a level 7 from 5, putting it on par with the Chernobyl nuclear disaster in 1986.

“The Bank of Japan governor said the economy was in a "severe state," while central bankers were uncertain when efforts to rebuild the tsunami-ravaged northeast would boost growth, according to minutes from a meeting held three days after a record earthquake struck Japan on March 11." ("Japan quake's economic impact worse than first feared", Reuters)

Foreign investors have yet to grasp the full impact of the crisis on Japan's economy. The Bank of Japan (BOJ) has increased its bond purchasing program and "launched an ultra-cheap loan scheme for banks in the area devastated by the quake", but monetary policy alone will not lead to a recovery. The government will have to initiate large-scale programs to engage the public while setting aside neoliberal policies that slash state spending and privatize public assets. Restoring economic well-being means strong leadership that moves forcefully in the opposite direction of present trends with the emphasis on shared sacrifice and community values.

This is from the Wall Street Journal:

“Fukushima Daiichi operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. warned Tuesday that since the Fukushima Daiichi plant is still releasing radioactive materials, the total level of radiation released could eventually exceed that of Chernobyl, a spokesman said.

“The new assessment comes as Japan admits that the effects of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear accident—which has already caused the evacuation of tens of thousands of people and spread radiation through groundwater and farms over a broad section of eastern Japan—are likely to be long-lasting and grave.....

“Japanese nuclear regulators determined that after the accident, the plant has likely released tens of thousands of terabecquerels—or a mind-boggling tens of thousands of trillions of becquerels—of radiation in the immediate area. That's a level that's been recorded only during the Chernobyl accident." ("Japanese Declare Crisis at Level of Chernobyl", Wall Street Journal)

Experts anticipate that the troubles at Fukushima will persist for months if not years. In the meantime, life-threatening levels of toxic radioactive material will be released into the air, water and soil. Small children and the unborn are at greatest risk, but incidents of adult thyroid cancer and other maladies will increase exponentially as well. The future of the nuclear industry has never been more uncertain, and for good reason.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby crikkett » Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:26 am

Peachtree Pam wrote:Thanks to Slad I finally got a video up!

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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:02 pm

TEPCO liability may be capped between $23.6B and $44.8B: Report
Posted On: Apr. 13, 2011 1:30 PM CENTRAL

TOKYO (Reuters)—Japan may cap Tokyo Electric Power's liability to as little as $23.6 billion for damages stemming from its crippled nuclear plant, the Yomiuri newspaper reported, citing a draft plan being considered by the plant operator and the government.

Shares of the company also known as TEPCO jumped 9.6%, while Kansai Electric and other utilities fell as the newspaper said they may be asked to shoulder some of the compensation costs under the draft plan.

The plan is designed to ease worries in the financial market over the fate of Tokyo Electric, which is the country's largest corporate bond issuer and whose shares are widely held by financial institutions, the newspaper said.

The company has yet to determine the extent of the damage from the March 11 earthquake and tsunami, but Bank of America-Merrill Lynch had estimated TEPCO could face compensation claims of more than $130 billion.

"It's too early to tell the fate of TEPCO at this moment, buying or even selling could be very speculative," said Yuuki Sakurai, CEO of Fukoku Capital Management.

"It's still very uncertain in terms of how far the government will go in supporting TEPCO. I think the general feeling is that might be a natural disaster, but some part of it is human error. And most people want to see TEPCO punished for the human error," he said.

Nothing decided

In a statement, Tokyo Electric said what was reported by Yomiuri was not something disclosed by the company and nothing has been decided.

Separately, the company said its president, Masataka Shimizu, would hold a news conference at 0600 GMT on Wednesday.

Under the plan, Tokyo Electric's liability would be capped at 2 trilllion yen to 3.8 trillion yen ($23.57 billion and $44.78 billion) and the company, Asia's largest utility, would pay 100 billion yen to 200 billion yen ($1.18 billion and $2.36 billion) annually for 15 years from its profits, the newspaper said.

The plan calls for other power firms to contribute to a fund that would shoulder up to 2.7 trillion yen ($31.82 billion) of compensation payouts, with the remaining damages to be handled by the government, Yomiuri said.

The utilities, including Tokyo Electric, would contribute to the fund in proportion to the number of reactors they own. This could come to about 30 billion yen to 50 billion yen ($353.6 million to $589.3 million) for each reactor, the newspaper said.

The draft plan likely will face hurdles including opposition from shareholders of other utilities such as Kansai Electric, which has 11 reactors and could be asked to contribute as much as 550 billion yen ($6.48 billion) under the plan, the paper said.

Losing value

Shares of the regional power monopoly have lost roughly 80% of their value since the disaster amid growing uncertainty over its viability given the prospect of staggering amount of compensation.

Media have reported a variety of ideas floated by government officials, including outright nationalization of Tokyo Electric and a spin-off of the Fukushima nuclear plant into an entity to handle the accident and compensation.

"We think extraordinary losses will total 554 billion yen ($6.53 billion) (in the year ended in March), for the costs of scrapping the Fukushima Daiichi plant and bringing thermal power plants back on line and 2 trillion yen ($23.57 billion) in (the current financial year) for the costs of damage compensation to the local community," Tomohiro Jikihara, an analyst at JP Morgan, said in a note.

On March 11, a magnitude 9 earthquake and a massive tsunami tore through Tokyo Electric's Fukushima Daiichi facility, 150 miles north of Tokyo, causing radiation leaks in the world's worst nuclear disaster in 25 years.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby eyeno » Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:59 pm

Peachtree Pam wrote:Here is an absolutely fascinating interview with Leuren Moret concerning Fukushima. She has no doubts that this was an example of electronic warfare involving HAARP. She also discusses Katrina and gives startling info on the real purpose of chemtrails. Whether you agree with her or not she really is an activist in educating people about the monsters that have control over so many aspects of our life.

Thanks to Slad I finally got a video up!







These Moret interviews are very good. Thank you for posting that. So it appears that the chemtrails 'are' an integral part of the haarp system which goes hand in hand with the heavy metal content of the environmental particulate. I think chemtrails is a bad name, should be more like Manmade Plasmion Layer. It has been a long time since I studied HAARP. There is a lot more information available online now than there was two or three years ago. According to her theory, if it be correct, we should perhaps anticipate that New Madrid/Wabash may get shaken before this is all over.

As strange as this world has become, I have also started wondering if 'global warming' is a euphemism for haarp induced heating because it fits the scenario like a glOve in my opinion. We are talking about playing with the power of the Sun too you know? How much power is that? This thing can probably fry off a whole ocean in a short time. I have seen enough of of the below for the last few weeks to become a believer of many things, and the below is the low hanging easy stuff to pick up. There is a vast repository of official recognition of haarp's capability. I think I am sliding this one out of the 'possible' box and over the 'most likely, to what degree?' box in my head.

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