Official N.O. About-Face: Holdouts now 'Heroes'

by **Starman** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:50 pm

Whathefu???? Since I stopped watching the hurtful, hateful, skewed, disinfo-prone, manipulative MSM cable 'news' programs more than a week ago, after watching it mostly non-stop after a LONG boycott simply because the visual narrative was so compelling and dramatic, I've only been aware of what's been happening in N.O. in general terms, from occasional alternative-media articles and discussion forums. But I understand this report IS a major change in the mandatory disarmament/evacuation-by-threat policy the Military Occupation locked-down PoliceState seige have been enforcing. The irony, as in almost everything connected with the monstrous snafus, errors and FUBAR of the PTB, is almost too great for words, or for human comprehension. If ONLY there was a self-destruct threshold for duplicitous 'helping' -- America would be liberated from its biggest dangers (enemies within its gates) and could FINALLY begin the huge job of repairing the incredible damage done by generations of wrong-headed policies on behalf of a criminal gangster self-absorbed status-quo of wealth and power. But alos, we must plunge on, hampered by America's adversaries comfortably established within its highest offices ... Starman *** <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml%3Bjsessionid%3DNZCLX04ABU05HQFIQMGCM54AVCBQUJVC?xml=/news/2005/09/18/wkat18.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/09/18/ixhome.html">www.telegraph.co.uk/news/...xhome.html</a> Threatened with eviction at gunpoint, the Big Easy holdouts are now hailed as heroes By Toby Harnden in New Orleans (Filed: 18/09/2005) Just days since they were being urged, sometimes at gunpoint, to leave their homes, the hardy band of residents who sat tight in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina are now being encouraged to stay put and help to restart the city. In a remarkable U-turn, the authorities - who had previously reviled, goaded and even threatened force against the few hundred remaining "holdouts" - are hailing them as examples of the indomitable spirit needed to rebuild the "Big Easy". Mica Rosenberg and her son Lazaro refused to leave The United States Army has begun helping them to stay, rather than persuading them to get out. "They are people who have spent most of their lives right here and they can't imagine anything else," said Major Keith Ensley, a US National Guard officer. "Now the mayor has indicated they can stay, we're offering them a little more help - water and food as needed. They've been real co-operative." A marked change of mood has swept the city and its officials since President George W Bush promised last week to rebuild New Orleans with federal funds. The mayor, Ray Nagin. is urging businesses to return to the city he recently declared a no-go zone. With the flood waters receding faster than anyone thought possible, the holdouts will now be joined over the next week by up to 180,000 of those who fled or were rescued from the hurricane, and are now being enticed back. With hundreds of decomposing corpses - thanks to the reopening of the port and airport - finally removed, laboratory tests have found sewage and oil left behind by the filthy water, but no contagious diseases. The worst predictions about the city's demise have been set aside. President Bush's contrite pledge appears to have guaranteed the future of New Orleans in some form. Now property speculators have moved in, buying up flood-ravaged houses in anticipation of a possible real estate boom. "We survived!" said a triumphant Mica Rosenberg, 72, standing among the potted plants on her wooden porch in the old Bywater district. "We went to hell and back, but the only way they were going to take me out was in a bag," she said. She and her son Lazaro, 36, a dealer in a casino, had stayed in their home without water or electricity, existing on stores of tinned food and bottled water. "The helicopters swooped down low to try and blow us out. The police got real ugly, telling us to grab our stuff and go. "But yesterday, the National Guard came around with a box of apples and said they were full of admiration for the way we stood our ground. One sergeant told me we had showed others what was possible for the city and its future." Now, she said, there was a chance to start afresh in New Orleans without "the hoodlums and dopes and robbers that infested this place like fleas on a dead cat". Clyde Casey, 43, an artist who stayed behind, said: "It felt like the Gestapo was coming in. The government tried to punish us for being prepared when they hadn't been." When Mr Bush first arrived to see the devastation, much of the small area of the city that remained above water was sealed off. "The police jumped on me and told me to get out of town," said Mr Casey. "One put a Magnum against my head while another punched me and stamped on my glasses. I felt the presence of an almighty egotistical force that was really scaring the bejeebees out of people who had the legal right to be here. Today, I'm just one of the people here ready to rebuild." Even in the worst hit parts of New Orleans and the outlying bayous and fishing villages of Louisiana, people were returning to the remnants of their homes last week and vowing to start again. Darrell Domingue, 44, was using a chainsaw to clear branches and loading a few salvaged possessions from his home near Pointe de la Hache, which had been filled with more than 15 feet of water. A neighbouring mobile home had slammed against one side of the house, his carport had disappeared and a huge bale of hay had smashed through the back. As Mr Domingue surveyed the property he pointed out toys from his 10-year-old daughter's bedroom spilling out of a hole in the roof - dolls, an upside down Minnie Mouse and a contorted Gonzo from the Muppets. A 35ft tidal surge had hit the house when it swept over the levee about 20 yards away. His parents' home, in which he had survived Hurricane Betsy as a boy of four, was swept half a mile up the road. His father-in-law's metal coffin, in which he had been buried a month before the storm, was washed from its vault at the St Thomas the Apostle graveyard, which had been under several feet of water. Mr Domingue shook his head. "I don't know how to tell my wife he isn't there any more. "I haven't shed a tear yet and neither has she. I couldn't imagine this was possible, but what can you do about it? You rebuild and you move on." At what was once the fishing village of Ycloskey, tales of miraculous escapes have entered local lore. Nephus "Fats" Wilson, a Pointe de la Hache oysterman, rode out the storm in a boat called Tide and emerged from the woods four days later with a full bottle of whisky in his hands. Back in New Orleans, volunteers dispensed vegetarian food and power bars to Mrs Rosenberg and her son. "We're just trying to cheer people up and lend a hand," said Randall Amster, 39. "There's no place in the world like this. The energy here, the full-on, crazy, in-the-moment vibe never left. That is what will bring people back." **** Re: FEMA prohibits emergency medical aid -- Shouldn't this result in criminal negligence and manslaughter charges at the very least, that Brown and Chertoff didn't anticipate the need to streamline MD credentialing for emergency treatment? And why wouldn't Good Samaritan law absolving good faith life-saving efforts apply in this instance? These officials who prohibited aid contributed to 20-30 deaths just on this one occasion. Shouldn't the incompetant who hired Brown and Chertoff be held accountable for HIS misfeasance, and fired as well as indicted? I'm too outraged for words. <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=PRNQXRL2OC2AFQFIQMGCM54AVCBQUJVC?xml=/news/2005/09/18/wkat318.xml">www.telegraph.co.uk/news/...kat318.xml</a> --excerpt-- "It's absolutely possible I would have saved her life but I was denied permission to try." An estimated 20 to 30 patients died at the temporary hospital that day. Dr Perlmutter arrived with Clark Gerhart, a surgeon colleague, and Alison Torrens, from Co Antrim, a medical student at Aberdeen University. All three had volunteered their services free of charge. It was five days after Hurricane Katrina had struck but all three were struck by the sense of chaos. "It was like something out of a film," said Miss Torrens. "I couldn't believe I was in the middle of America. There were people lying on the luggage racks. Every single patient was in a pool of urine or had soiled themselves." The surgeons said that the medical staff there had welcomed their arrival and needed trained doctors. "They were just swamped," said Dr Gerhart. The surgeons, however, were told they could not work there without Fema credentials, which could not be issued even though they had their medical licences with them. "[Capt French's] words were, 'We don't have any way to do credentialing and no way to ensure tort liability coverage'. How any one could utter those words in the middle of a catastrophe I do not know." Dr Perlmutter said that he begged to be allowed to work until he could be relieved by a Fema doctor but was told that this was not possible. Kim Pease, a Fema spokesman, said: "The volunteer doctor [Dr Perlmutter] was not a credentialed Fema physician and, thus, was subject to law enforcement rules in a disaster area." The three were flown back to Baton Rouge in another Black Hawk and were then swiftly given credentials by the Louisiana state authorities. They spent four days treating hundreds of patients. The surgeons, who worked at 9/11, were left with a sense of frustration that they had been blocked by what seemed to be petty bureaucracy.

by **DrDebugDU** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:29 pm

It is strange that the reports appeared in the Murdoch(R) UK division just after Blair was ordered by Murdoch and Bill Clinton to attack the BBC for 'anti-US' bias. So maybe this is a 'pro-bias' brought to you Fox Murdoch. So instead of talking about mandatory evacuations we are talking about the heroic survivors... <blockquote>Quote:<hr> Blair attacks BBC for 'anti-US bias' James Robinson, David Smith and Ned Temko Sunday September 18, 2005 The Observer Tony Blair has denounced the BBC's coverage of Hurricane Katrina as 'full of hatred of America' and 'gloating' at the country's plight, it was reported yesterday. Blair allegedly made the remarks privately to Rupert Murdoch, chairman and chief executive of News Corporation, which owns the rival Sky News. (...) Bill Clinton, the former US President who was hosting the conference, also attacked the tone of the BBC coverage at a seminar on the media. He said it had been 'stacked up' to criticise the federal government's slow response. <a href="http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,1572853,00.html">observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,1572853,00.html</a> <hr></blockquote>

by **OnoI812** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:43 pm

MIC to peons: Thanks for cooperating with our disarment probe excersise. Using the fall guy NO local authorities we were able to gather enough stats to reform our computer modelling and gauge the resolve necessary for the next crisis. Disregard what happened the other week...we'll play nice from now on...honest. Oh and just you pay no mind to those Russian & Dutch troops and Mexican marines behind the President. It would show further prudence to speak not of those Blackwater mercs & former ISI officers that we deputized...really, it was an honest mistake...The persons responsible will be dealt with in the most loving and kindest ways...we have a plethora of prime positions waiting for those individuals. So really .. live and let live...it's now safe to return to your slumber. sincerely...your little buddy The MIC Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=onoi812>OnoI812</A> at: 9/18/05 4:47 pm

by **Col Quisp** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:23 pm

"Now, she said, there was a chance to start afresh in New Orleans without "the hoodlums and dopes and robbers that infested this place like fleas on a dead cat". Is she saying she's glad that all the poor people are gone?

by **Starman** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:49 pm

Col Quisp wrote: "Is she saying she's glad that all the poor people are gone?" I think perhaps that's a gross oversimplification -- the 'criminal element' she's referring to, though, most typically operate with specific accomodation intended by and guaranteed by TPTB as a majot social-control mechanism -- and in any regards, the big thieves, con-men, dope-pushers and racketeeers are middle-to-high-end criminals exploiting the tourist-trap trade: they'll be among the first to return. Likely, this lady WAS referring to 'common' hoodlums, the more visible kind that's associated with poverty and run-down neighborhoods, not appreciating or understanding how organized crime is maintained and managed thru a delicate relationship with a corrupt bureaucracy. From reports of discussions by city managers, planners, and developers, it's almost certain that the poor of New Orleans will be deliberately excluded from returning by the razing of low-price neighborhoods and a tightened, higher-end newly-renovated and rebuilt housing market with few if any subsidized public housing. BTW: While I found her comment vulgar, I chuckled at her flawed example -- fleas rapidly abandon a dead host -- ie, there ARE no fleas on a dead cat! So what she was REALLY saying, is that, like the absence of fleas on a dead cat, New Orleans WASN'T infested with 'hoodlums, dopes (sic) and robbers'. One interpretation of her comment might be that people are many things BEFORE the can be, or should be, identified thru the economic activity they engage in. And, as far as that goes, MANY so-called respectable people such as lawyers, executives, politicians, law officiers, civil servants, engineers, bank managers, financial professionals, and CEOs engage in similiar kinds of fraudulant, criminal activities associated with hoodlums, dope and theft -- It's all relative, isn't it? Starman

Official N.O. About-Face: Holdouts now 'Heroes'

Official N.O. About-Face: Holdouts now 'Heroes'

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