Alex Jones Rant: DMT Elves Control Global Elites

[Canadian_watcher]

Again, you don't seem to be following the conversational strands.

Ludicrous. You denigrated Hancock based on the fact that he is not a serious scholar. I balked. You then said that training makes the difference between 'journalist' and 'scholar.' I called that elitist based NOT on the training itself, but on the fact that you will give more credence to traditionally trained experts than to non-traditionally trained experts.

Back off the 'you can't follow the argument' thing.. it's insulting.. to yourself.

I don't have time for the rest of it, nor the inclination... it's clear that if the institutions which produce "Scholars" were to be formed into the shape of a giant ass, you'd have your head so far up it you would be looking out of its mouth.

[barracuda]

The issue with the Bosnian "pyramid" is that the amateur and undisciplined excavations by Semir Osmanagić with the intent to prove that these structures are artificial are destroying important archaeological sites which are known to exist in the vicinity of his digs.

You can't even say it's a pyramid without putting it in quotes. If that guy who wrote that article, above, were to come around and declare it a pyramid, though, you would too.

Well, the Bosnian pyramid is quite definitely a "pyramid", though it is extremely likely to be a naturally occuring formation.

In all likelyhood, Osmanagić is a hoaxer, so it may be more important to research his methods and see if you agree with what he's doing than to go through that who's who exercise.

No, if it is so important to you, you do the research. And what's this 'in all likelihood' claim based on? More academics?

It's not important to me, though. You brought it up, remember?

Cremo is a Hindu creationist who takes a position against evolution, fwiw.

Difference between C_W and Barracuda: I believe that people can have spiritual beliefs that differ from mine and still be taken seriously in their work.

EDIT: Cremo's co-author on the book Forbidden Archaeology is very well 'trained' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_L._Thompson Thompson is someone you will be able to discount though, since he once belonged to the Hare Krishnas.

I tend to disagree with fundamentalists of almost any stripe. It is, I admit, a prejudice of mine.

*whew* dodged another one, hey? Must be nice in your head, where everything makes sense.

In conversations like these, I tend to rely upon the factual, "rigorous" side of my thought-processes and research abilities. Probably because I have had enough trouble keeping the visionary, fantastical, emotional and hallucinogenic aspects of my personality in check on a regular basis.

[barracuda]

it's clear that if the institutions which produce "Scholars" were to be formed into the shape of a giant ass, you'd have your head so far up it you would be looking out of its mouth.

Now I get it. Thanks for finally being clear.

FULL DISCLOSURE: I went to graduate school.

[barracuda]

There's plenty of forbidden sites, too. Scheduled Ancient Monuments, and so on, are protected by government which means it's extremely difficult to get even the best digs started. Obviously in dictatorships, there's a lot of difficulty getting to dig in Saudi Arabia, especially with fundamentalist reluctance to examine pre-Islamic archaeology, and in Afghanistan the various successive dictators have kept people out for decades, and the Tarim basin cultures are studied exclusively from a position the Chinese government finds ideologically acceptable, up Chinese Turkestan way. The same, especially under Stalin but before and after too, in Russia, both in "Siberia" and Europe. And Zahi Hawass would only allow his little munchkins into the places he controlled. Most Thracian sites have been ransacked by night-hawks, so no banning needed there. Officially unsupported investigations may have trouble accessing private and publicly-owned land, too, sometimes the case with the New England Ogham stones, and so on.

That's true, and there's probably an ideological slant to any scientific or archaeological endeavor, at the base of the thing, even if it may be somewhat invisible depending upon one's own political inclinations. But protecting Scheduled Ancient Monuments and other potential sites is not such a bad idea considering the history of pillage and poor archaeological technique which has scattered artifacts to the winds.

[JackRiddler]

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Bah, I insist on reposting and expanding my tribute to "They Live," which went lost at the bottom of Page 11 in this crazy thread. It was in response to this:

Why is John Carpenter's They Live scenario instantly dismissed as paranoid nuttery?

Au contraire.

We should honor the scenario in "They Live" as the director's clearly intended metaphor for class society, for how the spiritual cannibalism of man subduing man turns the winners into inhuman creatures. The hidden messages in the ads and on the money could not be more explicit as bitter rejections of our most hallowed social institutions: the nuclear family, consumerism and patriotism. John Carpenter is an intellectual hooligan.

OBEY. CONFORM. MARRY AND REPRODUCE. CONSUME. WATCH TELEVISION. SLEEP. NO INDEPENDENT THOUGHT. THIS IS YOUR GOD.

Where did the last slogan appear, do you remember? Hint: It was not on a portrait of Our Reptile Masters. It was on the Dollar Bill. Could the message be more obvious?

"They Live" is a high point of the too often disregarded art of caricature.

The 10-minute kayfabe alley brawl was also a spectacular in fan service. Kudos to Mr. Keith and Mr. Piper. Also to the director for the absurd sequence of shots with which the ending was left open.

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[666]

Also, I do think AJ would benefit from hallucinagins, maybe get him out of his stuck right-Christian Texan mindset.

Jack Blood, a former Prison Planet employee, radio host and personal friend of Alex Jones was fired and then black-balled by Jones, because Jack got sick of the spin and out right lying he was forced to participate in.

There's a 2 hour video of Blood's radio show where he exposes Jones for the control freak, hypocrite he really is.

Among other things, Blood talks about how, multiple occasions, he has smoked weed with Jones, went to strip clubs together and that Jones can't hold his liquor and wants to fight everyone around, even his own friends.

[hanshan]

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barracuda:

In conversations like these, I tend to rely upon the factual, "rigorous" side of my thought-processes and research abilities. Probably because I have had enough trouble keeping the visionary, fantastical, emotional and hallucinogenic aspects of my personality in check on a regular basis.

hmm...seems we may have fallen off the same boat


666:

Jack Blood, a former Prison Planet employee, radio host and personal friend of Alex Jones was fired and then black-balled by Jones, because Jack got sick of the spin and out right lying he was forced to participate in.

Seems to be fairly typical narcissistic megalomania(Jones) & yeah for Blood

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Bah, I insist on reposting and expanding my tribute to "They Live," which went lost at the bottom of Page 11 in this crazy thread. It was in response to this:

Why is John Carpenter's They Live scenario instantly dismissed as paranoid nuttery?

Au contraire.

We should honor the scenario in "They Live" as the director's clearly intended metaphor for class society, for how the spiritual cannibalism of man subduing man turns the winners into inhuman creatures. The hidden messages in the ads and on the money could not be more explicit as bitter rejections of our most hallowed social institutions: the nuclear family, consumerism and patriotism. John Carpenter is an intellectual hooligan.

OBEY. CONFORM. MARRY AND REPRODUCE. CONSUME. WATCH TELEVISION. SLEEP. NO INDEPENDENT THOUGHT. THIS IS YOUR GOD.

Where did the last slogan appear, do you remember? Hint: It was not on a portrait of Our Reptile Masters. It was on the Dollar Bill. Could the message be more obvious?

"They Live" is a high point of the too often disregarded art of caricature.

The 10-minute kayfabe alley brawl was also a spectacular in fan service. Kudos to Mr. Keith and Mr. Piper. Also to the director for the absurd sequence of shots with which the ending was left open.

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on the mark; tx, Jack


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[Stephen Morgan]

The issue with the Bosnian "pyramid" is that the amateur and undisciplined excavations by Semir Osmanagić with the intent to prove that these structures are artificial are destroying important archaeological sites which are known to exist in the vicinity of his digs.

You can't even say it's a pyramid without putting it in quotes. If that guy who wrote that article, above, were to come around and declare it a pyramid, though, you would too.

Well, the Bosnian pyramid is quite definitely a "pyramid", though it is extremely likely to be a naturally occuring formation.

Your formal tertiary education serves you ill, sirrah. It is not a question of "the Bosnian pyramid", but "the Bosnian pyramids". And at least one of them is a tetrahedron, and not a "pyramid", as you put it with such remarkable geometric imprecision.

I bid you good day, sir.

[barracuda]

This is the second time in a week I've been upbraided for neglecting an "s", and I'll have no more of it! Good day to YOU, sir!

Still not buying it, though.

[Saurian Tail]

That's a really weak argument Wombat. If you are a thief and there is a total breakdown in security you head straight for the priceless artifacts. The US could have easily protected the museums and didn't. The museums in Bagdad were not second rate museums. Those museums were of utmost strategic importance if your goal is something other than resource extraction.

So I'm realizing I don't even know what you're saying if we're arguing, I thought I was stating facts. This paragraph seems to be saying exactly what I was saying. No?

I'm saying I see no evidence of occult anything at work. US base locations are driven by geography and logistics, not ancient history. Ancient history also happens to have been driven by geography and logistics, too, hence the 1:1 overlaps.

The looting was not executed by Americans, it was executed by Iraquis. I don't see any goals for our invasion of Iraq aside from resource extraction. I don't see any evidence for the argument there were other goals. If anyone has that evidence, please post it.

Wombat,

Neither my looting comments nor my comments about how history gets deleted has anything to do with an occult interpretation.

To summarize what I have been trying to say, I believe the US is culpable for the looting because they didn't care enough to protect the artifacts. And I believe history gets deleted because the winners have very little regard for the people, places, and artifacts that make up the heart and soul of the conquered culture. It is really as simple as that.

Honestly, if we were sitting in the same room together we could hash this out in 5 minutes. I suspect we have the same overarching perspective and that the differences we are experiencing have more to do with the limitations of this form of communication than anything else.

Cheers,

-ST

[Canadian_watcher]

Honestly, if we were sitting in the same room together we could hash this out in 5 minutes. I suspect we have the same overarching perspective and that the differences we are experiencing have more to do with the limitations of this form of communication than anything else.

-ST

^ I was going to post a while ago that to me it sounded like the two of your were saying the same thing but had gotten wires crossed.

[Stephen Morgan]

This is the second time in a week I've been upbraided for neglecting an "s", and I'll have no more of it! Good day to YOU, sir!

That was an afterthought, the main theme of my upbraiding was entirely designed to focus on tetrahedral issues.

Good NIGHT to you sir. After I've finished watching Once Upon a Time in the Midlands and mucked about on my ocarina a bit.

Still not buying it, though.

I have no strong opinions on Bosnia business, apart from the recent political shilly-shallying over the preseidency of their football association, which has much larger international ramifications than the possibility that their pre-historic inhabitants used proto-concrete to build, or significantly re-shape, large hills. So I reserve judgement on that, while coming down on the anti-FIFA side of the football thingy.

[JackRiddler]

Also, I do think AJ would benefit from hallucinagins, maybe get him out of his stuck right-Christian Texan mindset.

Jack Blood, a former Prison Planet employee, radio host and personal friend of Alex Jones was fired and then black-balled by Jones, because Jack got sick of the spin and out right lying he was forced to participate in.

There's a 2 hour video of Blood's radio show where he exposes Jones for the control freak, hypocrite he really is.

Among other things, Blood talks about how, multiple occasions, he has smoked weed with Jones, went to strip clubs together and that Jones can't hold his liquor and wants to fight everyone around, even his own friends.

Jones cannot hold his liquor and is an aggressive drunk, or rather, drinks to aggress. This was one of the easier observations to make, the one time I had the pleasure in the flesh. And he's a Christian about as much as Hulk Hogan was a champion in competitive wrestling.

Texan, I will certainly grant.



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[8bitagent]

Also, I do think AJ would benefit from hallucinagins, maybe get him out of his stuck right-Christian Texan mindset.

Jack Blood, a former Prison Planet employee, radio host and personal friend of Alex Jones was fired and then black-balled by Jones, because Jack got sick of the spin and out right lying he was forced to participate in.

There's a 2 hour video of Blood's radio show where he exposes Jones for the control freak, hypocrite he really is.

Among other things, Blood talks about how, multiple occasions, he has smoked weed with Jones, went to strip clubs together and that Jones can't hold his liquor and wants to fight everyone around, even his own friends.

Oooh! I remember that one. Saw a link to it on here awhile back, and was surprised to hear all that(well not too surprised) I remember schmoozing with Blood at the LA 9/11 conference hotel bar, fun cool guy. I can see how he just couldn't job for AJ anymore. The main point he made was AJ's extremist views in seeing things in black and white when it comes to who is a truther or not. It's like the reverse of Glenn Beck. Beck sees anyone who is a "truther" as evil, AJ sees anyone who is not 100% on board with the inside job hypothesis a traitor. And I guess Daniel Ellsberg just wasnt happy with the way he was being backed into a corner or having his words twisted.

[American Dream]

Canadian_watcher wrote:

ow, I grant you this: I have not checked to see whether or not Michael Cremo has ever once been in the same room as someone who might believe in things that could possibly be interpreted as being antisemitic. Maybe he has. Maybe he's a cross-dresser. Maybe he used to beat his girlfriends. I don't know.

I just can not imagine you taking such a droll and dismissive tone towards concerns about misogyny in someone's discourse, as say you have taken with Icke {on edit: and anti-Semitism.

Do you think you are fair-minded and principled in the issues which you discount and/or ignore?


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