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Re: I know it's a little "out there"

Postby DrDebugDU » Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:30 pm

That steered by humans part was speculations. <br><br>The dead zones are important or should I say the wetlands, because the dead zones are created by over nutrition which also caused the decline in the wetlands. And the wetlands work as a buffer to moderate bad weather.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>Parishes Against Coastal Erosion (PACE) Response to the Bush Administration's June 14, 2005 Policy Statement on the Proposed Energy Act of 2005<br><br>By Parishes Against Coastal Erosion<br><br>Scientists from the U.S. Geological Survey, NOAA and other federal and state agencies along with university experts agree that nowhere in the world is a coastal region losing wetlands and protective barrier islands faster than Louisiana. About this there is no doubt. It is predicted that by 2050, one third of coastal Louisiana will have vanished into the Gulf of Mexico. Our coast and its wetlands is a system on the verge of collapse. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Without wetlands to buffer storms</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, our people and property and the nation's energy supply are at risk. <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.americaswetland.com/article.cfm?id=241&cateid=2&pageid=3&cid=16">www.americaswetland.com/article.cfm?id=241&cateid=2&pageid=3&cid=16</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>Hurricane Risk to New Orleans<br>by Daniel Zwerdling<br>On the Internet at: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.americanradioworks.org/features/wetlands/">www.americanradioworks.or.../wetlands/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> index.html<br><br>(...)<br><br>And state and federal officials are asking Congress to launch a massive project to restore the region's natural defenses. They want billions of dollars to try to rebuild some of the crumbling wetlands, which buffer New Orleans from hurricanes raging up from the Gulf. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Scientists say that's the best way to save the city: make that ancient shield of wetlands strong again</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->.<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>More Than Just A Swamp<br><br>(...)<br>Wetland Functions<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Flood Control</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> - Excess water from heavy rains is slowed by wetland plants and stored in the low- lying areas of wetlands, preventing the waters of nearby rivers and streams from overflowing and damaging property.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Storm Buffer</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> - Along our coast, wetlands take a beating from high winds and waves, yet remain intact. The thick vegetation buffers the forces of storms and protects the land from erosion.<br><br>(...)<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.epa.gov/owow/wetlands/education/puzzle.html">www.epa.gov/owow/wetlands/education/puzzle.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>And what we are seeing is an ever continuing decline of the wetlands which were the natural buffer against floods and sotrms. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Bodies found piled in freezer at Convention Center

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:35 pm

That's a kid," he said. "There's another one in the freezer, a 7-year-old with her throat cut."<br><br>He moved on, walking quickly through the darkness, pulling his camouflage shirt to his face to screen out the overwhelming odor.<br>"There's an old woman," he said, pointing to a wheelchair covered by a sheet. "I escorted her in myself. And that old man got bludgeoned to death," he said of the body lying on the floor next to the wheelchair.<br><br>Brooks and several other Guardsmen said they had seen between 30 and 40 more bodies in the Convention Center's freezer. "It's not on, but at least you can shut the door," said fellow Guardsman Phillip Thompson.<br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.nola.com/newslogs/tporleans/index.ssf?/mtlogs/nola_tporleans/archives/2005_09.html#077206">www.nola.com/newslogs/tpo...tml#077206</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Refugees from New Orleans behind barbed wire in Utah

Postby DrDebugDU » Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:39 pm

As reported on another post:<br><br>Timelines:<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.dkosopedia.com/index.php/Hurricane_Katrina_Chronology">www.dkosopedia.com/index.php/Hurricane_Katrina_Chronology</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2005_09/007023.php">www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2005_09/007023.php</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://scoop.epluribusmedia.org/story/2005/9/3/161145/0263">scoop.epluribusmedia.org/story/2005/9/3/161145/0263</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Refugees from New Orleans behind barbed wire in Utah</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.unknownnews.org/0509090906CampWilliams.html">www.unknownnews.org/0509090906CampWilliams.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br>Utah's Governor Jon Huntsman has taken in some of the New Orleans refugees, at Camp Williams. Replete with barbed wire, armed soldiers with weapons at ready, police and sheriff with weapons at ready, and hell, they must surely feel right at home. In America yet. What bullshit! I'm not done with this outrage, not by a long shot. I'm actually just getting started.<br><br>Unknown News needs to come up with some Press Credentials. I want access to Camp Williams and were I "media," they'd have to let me in and allow me to talk with the refugees? Wouldn't they?<br><br>snip-<br><br>The Hurricane Katrina insurgency from New Orleans is tucked safely away behind the 6-foot chain link fence with the accommodating barb wire atop chain links. The ONLY entry into <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Detention Camp Utah</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> is through the highly secure military gates that are <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>guarded by armed military guards</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> twenty four seven.<br><br>The ONLY access to the New Orleans insurgency is granted to military, government officials, and MAINSTREAM media.<br><br>The armed military guards at the military gates will not take nor answer any questions regarding the New Orleans insurgency. The guards will however instruct one dissident radical pseudo-media personality to turn the car around and get gone post haste. Only officially cleared personnel can access the New Orleans insurgency.<br><br>Detention Camp Utah is located about 20 miles from downtown civilization. There is no transportation, public or otherwise, for the New Orleans insurgency. Supposedly, it has been reported by one local media concern that there will be twice-daily bus service available to "cleared" insurgents.<br><br><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><br>AllegroRondo<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Storm Refugees Housed at Old Jail</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/F86AD8FF1EA488AE86257070005286FF?OpenDocument&highlight=2%2C%22hurricane%22">www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/F86AD8FF1EA488AE86257070005286FF?OpenDocument&highlight=2%2C%22hurricane%22</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>St. Louis County will officially open its doors to refugees from Hurricane Katrina next week, setting up an emergency shelter at the former Gumbo jail and providing health and job services for those who end up staying at the abandoned facility.<br><br>County Executive Charlie A. Dooley announced Thursday that the county will partner with the American Red Cross and the Salvation Army to help provide relief to those in need.<br><br>"It's a human tragedy," he said. "Right now we can't be concerned with how much it will cost to help. That cannot be our priority. These people must be our concern."<br><br>Dooley said there is no timetable set for moving people in, but according to the county's director of administration, Jim Baker, officials hope to have the old jail ready by Tuesday.<br><br>The Gumbo jail is a 32-acre site in the county's Chesterfield Valley region. It has been empty for the past seven years. There are two buildings on site, which can house about 300 people. Dooley said they expect to set up a health screening center at the jail.<br><br><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><br>CityZen-X (1000+ posts) <br>Tue Sep-06-05 12:49 PM<br>Response to Original message<br><br>9. Refugees In San Francisco<br><br><br>Local news here in the S.F. had a report last night that refugees from N.O. are going to be housed in the Hunters Point District. Hunters Point is a closed military facility surrounded by housing projects which are considered to be the most dangerous neighborhoods in the City.<br>It has been classified as a war zone, with numerous gangs and their Faustian drug trade. Drive by shootings are as common as crack pipes being lit!<br><br>Relocation sites:<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4657680">www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4657680</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>See also: Story about Fort Bragg reported earlier somewhere in the post.. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Detective Bush on the job

Postby AnnaLivia » Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:21 pm

Challenge questions to submit to…anyone who needs to hear them.<br><br>Is or is not george w bush the big-chief-in-charge of this country?<br><br>If no, please explain why you say no.<br><br>If yes, then the phrase “It happened on my watch, Sir” is applicable.<br><br>So how does it make any sense for the responsible party to conduct the investigation of the incident? Why would anyone greet as good news, the matter of the president appointing himself to conduct the investigation?<br><br>This is beyond ludicrous, and not even in the same ballpark with logic.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Refugees from New Orleans behind barbed wire in Utah

Postby RollickHooper » Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:34 pm

Two comments on the old Gumbo jail in St. Louis County:<br><br>Unlike the other locations mentioned, Chesterfield Valley is a booming suburban-sprawl of new commercial and residential development, and I bet County Executor Dooley catches hell from all the NIMBY white folks (Dooley himself is black);<br><br>and in the Flood of '93, Chesterfield Valley was submerged by the nearby Meramec River, which, I think, may have been the reason the Gumbo jail was abandoned in the first place. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Detective Bush on the job

Postby dbeach » Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:35 pm

who does bush work for..?<br><br>he clearly not working for the disaster victims.<br><br>technically we have been in a US Constitutonal crisis since bush was selected on 2000.<br>.and Gore is the unseated President and bush is the WH occupant<br><br>How long this fantasy continues ? When and if the various Intel agencies get up and arrest this cabal as the Fitzie indictments are gonna shake the foundations of the temple.<br><br>if as Flocco is saying is true and its THE BIGGEST IF in my life..THAT Some Intell are protecting Fitzie and the Grand Jury <br><br>then bush is gonna look like prison bound on the "midnight special" <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Storm Survivors Told To 'Expose Themselves'

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:43 pm

Storm Survivors Told To 'Expose Themselves' <br> A group of female hurricane survivors were told to show their breasts if they wanted to be rescued, a British holidaymaker has revealed.Ged Scott watched as American rescuers turned their boat around and sped off when the the women refused. <br><br><snip><br><br>Mr Scott, 36, of Liverpool, was with his wife and seven-year-old daughter in the Ramada Hotel when the flood waters started rising. <br><br>"At one point, there were a load of girls on the roof of the hotel saying 'Can you help us?' and the policemen said 'Show us what you've got' and made signs for them to lift their T-shirts," he told the Liverpool Evening Echo. <br><br>"When the girls refused, they said `Fine' and motored off down the road in their boat." <br> <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://uk.news.yahoo.com/06092005/140/storm-survivors-told-expose-themselves.html">uk.news.yahoo.com/0609200...elves.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Deliberate dysfunctions

Postby antiaristo » Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:43 pm

I was just reading the proposed timeline thread and was reminded of the call for evacuation by the mayor. It's important to remind ourselves of WHY he waited so long. He was frightened that the city would be sued if it turned out to be a false alarm.<br>So let's get this straight. Because of fear of property loss (in the form of lawsuits) a decision was made late and cost many many lives.<br>And who can blame him? It's a deliberate system malfunction and reminds me of General Geoffrey Miller who "set the conditions" for what happened at Abu Ghraib.<br>Indeed, how is it possible to have an evacuation plan at all under such decision making circumstances? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: FEMA Ignored Official Warnings

Postby DrDebugDU » Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:43 pm

<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/9/6/3840/39445">dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/9/6/3840/39445</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>I'm a Meteorologist and KNOW FEMA Ignored *Official* Warnings [BIG updates - unbelievable]<br><br>I had to insert this update at the top. The 2004 Hurricane "Pam" (1) simulation summary found on FEMA'S OWN WEBSITE (2) [Google cache (3) ], foretold overtopped levees -- other problems -- in NOLA. If you haven't, listen to Russert's interview on Imus. (4)<br><br>Original post:<br><br>I felt compelled to post these this evening. Let it be known, I am a meteorologist. Last Saturday and Sunday I sat back, like many in my field did, and watched in horror as hurricane Katrina -- a storm of nearly unparalleled strength in recorded history -- barreled toward a certain landfall at or near New Orleans. What was most eerie about the situation was absolutely knowing what horrors and destruction were about to unfold along the Gulf Coast and in New Orleans. I get a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach when these things happen -- knowing beforehand that weather is surely about to kill. Yet, I was powerless to stop it. My only hope was that people had taken the warnings seriously and that FEMA and others were prepared to respond to what would undoubtedly be a horrific catastrophe.<br>Much more below the fold<br><br>Federalist's diary :: ::<br><br>Everyone I know in meteorology understood that New Orleans was living on borrowed time. This scenario -- NOLA taking a direct hit from a major hurricane -- had been discussed ad infinitum in meteorology (and emergency management) circles for years as being one of the most (if not the most) deadly serious weather disasters America could ever face. Unfortunately, last weekend, New Orleans' time had run out.<br><br>It should be said over and over again, the resulting devastation in New Orleans was absolutely not some sort of unforeseen surprise. When I hear Bush or any of his political appointees in FEMA and Homeland Security (all of whom are in full "CYA mode") talk about not anticipating the level of devestation in New Orleans, I become infuriated!!! It was well known -- well before landfall -- by local emergency managers, scientists, and anyone with common sense what devestation awaited those locations in Katrina's path, NOLA specifically. Of course, in this Administration, science means about as much as last week's losing lottery ticket -- used chewing gum wrapper.<br><br>Anyway, we in the United States are lucky to be served by the most advanced government-run weather service on the globe. The National Weather Service (NWS) (5) is a science-driven agency who's mission is to protect lives and property from weather hazards. Without getting too long-winded in my gratitude and accolades for the job those in the Weather Service do, just take it from me that they perform a phenomenal service for the citizens of our nation (BTW, in case you're wondering, I do not work for the NWS -- directly or indirectly -- or any agency of the federal goverment). Regardless of what Sen. Rick Santorum thinks (6) about the Weather Service, American taxpayers certainly get their money's worth from this federal agency.<br><br>On the eve of Katrina's landfall, the professional forecasters at regional National Weather Service offices across the southeast and the agency's National Hurricane Center (NHC) (7) in Miami gave dire warnings on what was sure to be a weather calamity that this county has not seen in over a century (since the Galveston, TX hurricane of 1900 (8) ) . The regional Weather Service office at New Orleans/Slidell, LA (9) was -- understandably -- on "red alert". The public warnings and advisories issued by personnel at the Slidell office spelled out, in horrific detail, what was about to unfold in New Orleans and along the Gulf Coast. These selfless, dedicated civil servants, who themselves were in the direct path of this killer, gave all the forewarning anyone in the government should ever need to start gearing up for a massive response. Yet, this incompetent Administration failed miserably. It should have been a "slam dunk"...<br><br>To prove my point, the following four official NWS "wire" bulletins were just some of the warnings issued by either the National Hurricane Center or the Slidell NWS office - - up to several days before New Orleans met it's fate when Katrina plowed ashore near Slidell along the LA/MS border -- to highlight, in almost gross detail, the impending emergency. This is only a very small subset of the total number of warnings issued by the NWS before and during Katrina's landfall. I have posted these advisories in their entirety (any emphasis is mine) for credibility and effect. Keep in mind, all of the following advisories were public statements issued by the NHC or the Slidell office and were available to anyone (i.e., other government agencies, media, regular folks with a NOAA weather radio or internet connection) in realtime. As someone who reads Weather Service bulletins often, I was made speechless by the strength of the language contained within these bulletins. The Weather Service, well aware of the risks of "crying wolf", has never been an agency with an affinity for hype. Their Katrina warnings, however, were bleak...and spot on:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>WTNT32 KNHC 282041<br>TCPAT2<br>BULLETIN<br>HURRICANE KATRINA ADVISORY NUMBER 24<br>NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL<br>4 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005<br>...POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC HURRICANE KATRINA HEADED FOR THE NORTHERN GULF COAST...<br><br>A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTH CENTRAL GULF COAST FROM MORGAN CITY LOUISIANA EASTWARD TO THE ALABAMA/ FLORIDA BORDER...INCLUDING THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS AND LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN. PREPARATIONS TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE COMPLETED THIS EVENING.<br><br>A TROPICAL STORM WARNING AND A HURRICANE WATCH ARE IN EFFECT FROM EAST OF THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA BORDER TO DESTIN FLORIDA...AND FROM WEST OF MORGAN CITY TO INTRACOASTAL CITY LOUISIANA.<br><br>A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS ALSO IN EFFECT FROM DESTIN FLORIDA EASTWARD TO INDIAN PASS FLORIDA...AND FROM INTRACOASTAL CITY LOUISIANA WESTWARD TO CAMERON LOUISIANA.<br><br>FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.<br><br>AT 4 PM CDT...2100Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE KATRINA WAS LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 26.9 NORTH... LONGITUDE 89.0 WEST OR ABOUT 150 MILES SOUTH OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER.<br><br>KATRINA IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTHWEST NEAR 13 MPH...AND A GRADUAL TURN TO THE NORTH IS EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT 24 HOURS. ON THIS TRACK THE CENTER OF THE HURRICANE WILL BE NEAR THE NORTHERN GULF COAST EARLY MONDAY. HOWEVER...CONDITIONS ARE ALREADY BEGINNING TO DETERIORATE ALONG PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL AND NORTHEASTERN GULF COAST...AND WILL CONTINUE TO WORSEN THROUGH THE NIGHT.<br><br>MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 165 MPH...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. KATRINA IS A POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN STRENGTH ARE LIKELY UNTIL LANDFALL. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL AT CATEGORY FOUR OR FIVE INTENSITY.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> WINDS AFFECTING THE UPPER FLOORS OF HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY STRONGER THAN THOSE NEAR GROUND LEVEL.<br><br>KATRINA IS A LARGE HURRICANE. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 105 MILES FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 230 MILES. SUSTAINED TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ARE OCCURRING OVER THE SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA COAST. SOUTHWEST PASS...NEAR THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER...RECENTLY REPORTED SUSTAINED WINDS OF 48 MPH WITH GUSTS TO 53 MPH.<br><br>A NOAA HURRICANE HUNTER PLANE REPORTED A MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE OF 902 MB...26.64 INCHES.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>COASTAL STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 18 TO 22 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE LEVELS...LOCALLY AS HIGH AS 28 FEET...ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS BATTERING WAVES...CAN BE EXPECTED NEAR AND TO THE EAST OF WHERE THE CENTER MAKES LANDFALL. <!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline">SOME LEVEES IN THE GREATER NEW ORLEANS AREA COULD BE OVERTOPPED.</span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END--> SIGNIFICANT STORM SURGE FLOODING WILL OCCUR ELSEWHERE ALONG THE CENTRAL AND NORTHEASTERN GULF OF MEXICO COAST.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->RAINFALL TOTALS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES...WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF 15 INCHES...ARE POSSIBLE ALONG THE PATH OF KATRINA ACROSS THE GULF COAST AND THE TENNESSEE VALLEY. RAINFALL TOTALS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY INTO THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES REGION TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY.<br><br>ISOLATED TORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE BEGINNING THIS EVENING OVER SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF LOUISIANA...MISSISSIPPI...AND ALABAMA...AND OVER THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE.<br><br>REPEATING THE 4 PM CDT POSITION...26.9 N... 89.0 W. MOVEMENT TOWARD...NORTHWEST NEAR 13 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...165 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 902 MB.<br><br>AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT 7 PM CDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 10 PM CDT.<br><br>FORECASTER PASCH<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>WWUS74 KLIX 281550<br>NPWLIX<br>URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE<br>NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA<br>1011 AM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005<br><br>...DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED...<br><br>.HURRICANE KATRINA...A MOST POWERFUL HURRICANE WITH UNPRECEDENTED STRENGTH...RIVALING THE INTENSITY OF HURRICANE CAMILLE OF 1969.<br><br>MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.<br><br>THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL. PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.<br><br>HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.<br><br>AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.<br><br>POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.<br><br>THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BE KILLED.<br><br>AN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR HURRICANE FORCE...OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE...ARE CERTAIN WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS.<br><br>ONCE TROPICAL STORM AND HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ONSET...DO NOT VENTURE OUTSIDE!<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>WWUS74 KLIX 282139<br>NPWLIX<br>URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE<br>NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA<br>413 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005<br><br>...EXTREMELY DANGEROUS HURRICANE KATRINA CONTINUES TO APPROACH THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER DELTA...<br>...DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED...<br><br>MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.<br><br>THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL. PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.<br><br>HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.<br><br>AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.<br><br>POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.<br><br>THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BE KILLED.<br><br>AN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WATCH IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR HURRICANE FORCE...OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE...ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN THE NEXT 24 TO 36 HOURS.<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>WWUS74 KLIX 291122<br>NPWLIX<br>URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE<br>NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA<br>619 AM CDT MON AUG 29 2005<br><br>...EXTREMELY DANGEROUS HURRICANE KATRINA MOVING ACROSS LOWER PLAQUEMINES PARISH...<br>...DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED...<br><br>THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL. PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.<br><br>HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A FEW POSSIBLY TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. MANY WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.<br><br>AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.<br><br>POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.<br><br>THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>'nuff said. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"We never anticipated XXXX" is not a valid excuse!</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/9/6/3840/39445">dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/9/6/3840/39445</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br>Sources:<br>(1) <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/defenseandsecurity/a/femapam.htm">usgovinfo.about.com/od/defenseandsecurity/a/femapam.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br>(2) <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=13051">www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=13051</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br>(3) <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:rNQI3HiZH8sJ:www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema%3Fid%3D13051+Hurricane+Pam,+New+Orleans,+FEMA&hl=en">64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:rNQI3HiZH8sJ:www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema%3Fid%3D13051+Hurricane+Pam,+New+Orleans,+FEMA&hl=en</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br>(4) <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://wfan.com/imusinstantreplay">wfan.com/imusinstantreplay</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br>(5) <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://weather.gov/">weather.gov/</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br>(6) <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/5/20/2452/38218">www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/5/20/2452/38218</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br>(7) <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/">www.nhc.noaa.gov/</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br>(8) <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.1900storm.com/">www.1900storm.com/</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br>(9) <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.srh.noaa.gov/lix">www.srh.noaa.gov/lix</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: 3 Duke students tell of disgraceful scene (drove into NO

Postby DrDebugDU » Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:18 pm

By Ray Gronberg : The Herald-Sun<br>gronberg@heraldsun.com<br>Sep 4, 2005 : 9:36 pm ET<br><br>DURHAM -- A trio of Duke University sophomores say they drove to New Orleans late last week, posed as journalists to slip inside the hurricane-soaked city twice, and evacuated seven people who weren't receiving help from authorities.<br><br>The group, led by South Carolina native Sonny Byrd, say they also managed to drive all the way to the New Orleans Convention Center, where they encountered scenes early Saturday evening that they say were disgraceful.<br><br>"We found it absolutely incredible that the <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>authorities had no way to get there</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> for four or five days, that they didn't go in and help these people, and <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>we made it in a two-wheel-drive Hyundai</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->," said Hans Buder, who made the trip with his roommate Byrd and another student, David Hankla.<br><br>Buder's account -- told by cell phone Sunday evening as the trio neared Montgomery, Ala., on their way home -- chronicled a three-day odyssey that began when the students, angered by the news reports they were seeing on CNN, loaded up their car with bottled water and headed for the Gulf coast to see if they could lend a hand. <br><br>The trio say they left Durham about 6 p.m. Thursday and reached Montgomery about 12 hours later. After catching 1½ hours of sleep, they reached the coast at Mobile. From there, they traveled through the Mississippi cities of Biloxi and Gulfport.<br><br>They say they elected to keep going because it seemed like Mississippi authorities had things well in hand. <br><br>Pushing on, they passed through Slidell, La., and tried to get into New Orleans by a couple of routes. Each time, police and National Guard troops turned them away. By 2 p.m. they'd wound up in Baton Rouge. <br><br>Stopping first at a Red Cross shelter and then at offices of a Baton Rouge TV station, WAFB, they eventually made their way to the campus of Louisiana State University. By 8 p.m. Friday they were working as volunteers in an emergency assistance area set up inside LSU's indoor track arena. <br><br>The students worked until about 2 a.m. Saturday, then slept on the floor of a dorm room. When they awoke, they went back to the TV station, which was hosting what Buder termed "a distribution center" for supplies. <br><br>At 2 p.m., the trio decided to head for New Orleans, Buder said. After looking around, they swiped an Associated Press identification and one of the TV station's crew shirts, and found a Kinko's where they could make copies of the ID. <br><br>They were stopped again by authorities at the edge of New Orleans, but this time were able to make it through. <br><br>"We waved the press pass, and they looked at each other, the two guards, and waved us on in," Buder said. <br><br>Inside the city, they found a surreal environment. <br><br>"It was wild," Buder said. "It really felt like it was 'Independence Day,' the movie." <br><br>The trio dodged downed trees and power lines until they happened upon Magazine Street, which runs in a semi-circle around the city parallel to and about four blocks north of the Mississippi River. <br><br>They stopped to give water to a 15-year-old boy sitting beside the road holding a sign that said "Need Water/Food," then went to the convention center. <br><br>The evacuation was basically complete by the time they arrived, at about 6:30 or 6:45 p.m. What the trio saw there horrified them. <br><br>"The only way I can describe this, it was the epicenter," Buder said. "Inside there were National Guard running around, there was feces, people had urinated, soiled the carpet. There were dead bodies. The smell will never leave me." <br><br>Buder said the students saw four or five bodies. National Guard troopers seemed to be checking the second and third floors of the building to try to secure the site. <br><br>"Anyone who knows that area, if you had a bus, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>it would take you no more than 20 minutes to drive in with a bus and get these people out</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->," Buder said. "They sat there for four or five days with no food, no water, babies getting raped in the bathrooms, there were murders, nobody was doing anything for these people. And we just drove right in, really disgraceful. I don't want to get too fired up with the rhetoric, but some blame needs to be placed somewhere." <br><br>By about 7 p.m., the students made their way back to the boy on Magazine Street. He directed them to some people "who really needed to get out." The resulting evacuation began at a house at the corner of Magazine and Peniston streets. <br><br>The first group included three women and a man. The students climbed into the front seats of the four-door Hyundai, and the evacuees filled the back seat. They left the city and headed back to Baton Rouge. There they deposited the man at the LSU medical center and took the women to dinner. The women later found shelter with relatives, and the students got about four hours' sleep inside the LSU chapel. <br><br>At 6:30 a.m. Sunday, they made their second run into New Orleans, returning to the house at Magazine and Peniston streets. This time they picked up three men and headed back to Baton Rouge. Two of the men were the husbands of two of the women evacuated the night before. The students reunited them with their wives and put the two families on a bus for Texas. <br><br>Buder is from Martha's Vineyard, Mass.; Byrd is from Rock Hill, S.C.; and Hankla is from Washington, D.C. <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.herald-sun.com/durham/4-643298.html">www.herald-sun.com/durham/4-643298.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re:1 Million People Can't Go Home for Months

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:27 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/05/AR2005090501629_pf.html">www.washingtonpost.com/wp...29_pf.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>1 Million People Can't Go Home for Months<br><br>The vastness of the displacement created by Hurricane Katrina became more clear yesterday as officials struggled to respond to the needs of more than 1 million people who will be out of their Gulf Coast homes for months to come.<br><br>So many homeless people flocked to Texas in the past few days that Gov. Rick Perry (R) declared that his state was full and could take no more. Electronic highway signs in Houston directed bus drivers with evacuees to Fort Chaffee, Ark., but that facility quickly filled up as 9,000 people arrived within 16 hours Saturday. Arkansas officials asked for the signs to be removed.<br><br>With shelter space in the deep South filling up, the Federal Emergency Management Agency yesterday began to airlift storm survivors to states as far away as Michigan, Utah and California.<br><br>FEMA officials said they have secured as many as 50,000 shelter beds in often faraway states, but the flow of people to those states has sometimes been chaotic. <p></p><i></i>
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Re:Official: E. Coli bacteria detected in floodwater

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:38 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/06/katrina.impact/index.html">www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/06...index.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Official: E. Coli bacteria detected in floodwater <br><br>NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- Floodwater in New Orleans is contaminated with E. coli bacteria, a city official told CNN Tuesday.<br><br>The official in Mayor Ray Nagin's office declined to be identified.<br><br>The failures of the levee system after Hurricane Katrina's onslaught left about 80 percent of the city flooded with water up to 20 feet deep -- water that became a toxic mix of chemicals, garbage, corpses and human waste. (See video of restarted pumping station -- 2:14)<br><br>E. coli comes from human and animal waste and can be found in untreated sewage. <br><br> <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Bush to Oversee Katrina Investigation

Postby DrDebugDU » Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:55 pm

Another FEMA refusal thread<br><br>fiziwig (1000+ posts) <br>Tue Sep-06-05 09:34 PM<br>FEMA Hard at work...<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4666990">www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4666990</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>Federal agency 'slow' to accept business help<br>By FT Reporters in New York<br>Published: September 5 2005 03:00 | Last updated: September 5 2005 03:00<br><br>From Wal-Mart's satellite-based communications systems to FedEx's aircraft, US business has in some cases managed to provide a swifter response to the initial impact of hurricane Katrina than the federal and state authorities.<br><br>But critics of the handling of the crisis by government agencies said they were slow in accepting offers of help.<br><br>Mary Landrieu, the Democratic US senator from Louisiana, accused the Federal Emergency Management Agency of having "dragging its feet" when Amtrak offered trains to evacuate victims.<br><br>"Offers of medicine, communications equipment and other desperately needed items continue to flow in, only to be ignored by the agency," she said.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://news.ft.com/cms/s/84aa35cc-1da8-11da-b40b-00000e2511c8.html">news.ft.com/cms/s/84aa35cc-1da8-11da-b40b-00000e2511c8.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>FEMA turns away experienced firefighters <br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/9/5/105538/7048">www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/9/5/105538/7048</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> (Posted before)<br><br>FEMA turns back Wal-Mart supply trucks -<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>(...)<br>Local and state resources were so weakened, said Michael Chertoff, the homeland security secretary, that in the future federal authorities need to take "more of an upfront role earlier on, when we have these truly ultracatastrophes."<br><br>But furious state and local officials insisted that the real problem was that the Federal Emergency Management Agency, which Mr. Chertoff's department oversees, failed to deliver urgently needed help and, through incomprehensible red tape, even thwarted others' efforts to help.<br><br>(...)<br><br>When Wal-Mart sent three trailer trucks loaded with water, FEMA officials turned them away, he said. Agency workers prevented the Coast Guard from delivering 1,000 gallons of diesel fuel, and on Saturday they cut the parish's emergency communications line, leading the sheriff to restore it and post armed guards to protect it from FEMA, Mr. Broussard said.<br><br>(...)<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/05/national/nationalspecial/05blame.html">www.nytimes.com/2005/09/05/national/nationalspecial/05blame.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>FEMA won't let Red Cross deliver food -<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>Homeland Security won't let Red Cross deliver food<br><br>Saturday, September 03, 2005<br><br>By Ann Rodgers, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette<br><br>As the National Guard delivered food to the New Orleans convention center<br>yesterday, American Red Cross officials said that federal emergency management authorities would not allow them to do the same.<br><br>Other relief agencies say the area is so damaged and dangerous that they doubted they could conduct mass feeding there now.<br><br>"The Homeland Security Department has requested and continues to request that the American Red Cross not come back into New Orleans," said Renita Hosler, spokeswoman for the Red Cross.<br><br>(...)<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05246/565143.stm">www.post-gazette.com/pg/05246/565143.stm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Sheriffs vs Fema

Postby Sweejak » Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:57 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>We now have multiple reports of police being ordered to guard key infrastructures in order to defend them from FEMA federal agents. Sheriffs in numerous different counties are guarding highways to keep FEMA out. FEMA is being treated as the enemy because they are sabotaging key facilities in an effort to intentionally worsen the already desperate scenes of horror in New Orleans.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2005/060905femasabotaging.htm">www.prisonplanet.com/arti...taging.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re:CODE WORDS if you are poor, black you aren't crossing

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:15 pm

A First Hand Account - Why So Few Katrina Survivors Got Out. <br> Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 03:34 PM by leveymg<br><br>Within hours after the savage winds of Katrina subsided, the westward expressway out of New Orleans was blocked-off by armed sheriffs of suburban Gretna County who barred everyone trying to flee the city by vehicle and on foot. After four to five days, federal officials finally began to move evacuees out of the two designated downtown shelters on buses and on military flights. Those who were fortunate enough to reach Houston waited for hours at airfields and in parking lots while everyone was checked for communicable diseases.<br><br>The hell of the survivors was prolonged for days by a deliberate containment policy concocted by local officials who could think of nothing but to surround New Orleans with armed guards and wait for the Army to arrive. After troops came in, evacuation was further delayed as evacuees were examined for signs of infections. The fear of race and germs probably killed more people than the rush of waters that broke through the city’s outdated, inadequate storm walls. <br><br>In addition to criminal bungling of disaster efforts, it appears that there was a de facto quarantine of New Orleans. The federal search and rescue and evacuation operations were apparently tied up for 3 or 4 days. Meanwhile, CDC waited to see if there was a contagious disease outbreak. Little effort was taken during that time to get adequate water or food to thousands of people clustered visibly in large groups on highway access ramps.<br><br>The stories of wild anarchy and armed looters was largely an overblown, racist cover story. The mass media again allowed itself to be used to spread lies concocted by the White House. The American people were being prepared for the possibility that federal troops would be ordered to enforce a quarantine, and the remaining population of New Orleans rebelled after learning Washington had decided that Katrina’s survivors wouldn’t be let out of the doomed city. - Mark <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/6/132725/8931">www.dailykos.com/story/20...32725/8931</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br>Hurricane Katrina-Our Experiences <br><br>Larry Bradshaw, Lorrie Beth Slonsky<br><br>Two days after Hurricane Katrina struck New Orleans, the Walgreen's store at the corner of Royal and Iberville streets remained locked. The dairy display case was clearly visible through the widows. It was now 48 hours without electricity, running water, plumbing. The milk, yogurt, and cheeses were beginning to spoil in the 90-degree heat. The owners and managers had locked up the food, water, pampers, and prescriptions and fled the City. Outside Walgreen's windows, residents and tourists grew increasingly thirsty and hungry.<br><br>The much-promised federal, state and local aid never materialized and the windows at Walgreen's gave way to the looters. There was an alternative. The cops could have broken one small window and distributed the nuts, fruit juices, and bottle water in an organized and systematic manner. But they did not. Instead they spent hours playing cat and mouse, temporarily chasing away the looters.<br><br>We were finally airlifted out of New Orleans two days ago and arrived home yesterday (Saturday). We have yet to see any of the TV coverage or look at a newspaper. We are willing to guess that there were no video images or front-page pictures of European or affluent white tourists looting the Walgreen's in the French Quarter.<br>We also suspect the media will have been inundated with "hero" images of the National Guard, the troops and the police struggling to help the "victims" of the Hurricane. What you will not see, but what we witnessed,were the real heroes and sheroes of the hurricane relief effort: the working class of New Orleans. The maintenance workers who used a fork lift to carry the sick and disabled. The engineers, who rigged, nurtured and kept the generators running. The electricians who improvised thick extension cords stretching over blocks to share the little electricity we had in order to free cars stuck on rooftop parking lots. Nurses who took over for mechanical ventilators and spent many hours on end manually forcing air into the lungs of unconscious patients to keep them alive. Doormen who rescued folks stuck in elevators. Refinery workers who broke into boat yards, "stealing" boats to rescue their neighbors clinging to their roofs in flood waters. Mechanics who helped hot-wire any car that could be found to ferry people out of the City. And the food service workers who scoured the commercial kitchens improvising communal meals for hundreds of those stranded.<br><br>Most of these workers had lost their homes, and had not heard from members of their families, yet they stayed and provided the only infrastructure for the 20% of New Orleans that was not under water.<br>On Day 2, there were approximately 500 of us left in the hotels in the French Quarter. We were a mix of foreign tourists, conference attendees like ourselves, and locals who had checked into hotels for safety and shelter from Katrina. Some of us had cell phone contact with family and friends outside of New Orleans. We were repeatedly told that all sorts of resources including the National Guard and scores of buses were pouring in to the City. The buses and the other resources must have been invisible because none of us had seen them.<br>We decided we had to save ourselves. So we pooled our money and came up with $25,000 to have ten buses come and take us out of the City. Those who did not have the requisite $45.00 for a ticket were subsidized by those who did have extra money. We waited for 48 hours for the buses, spending the last 12 hours standing outside, sharing the limited water, food, and clothes we had. We created a priority boarding area for the sick, elderly and new born babies. We waited late into the night for the "imminent" arrival of the buses. The buses never arrived. We later learned that the minute the arrived to the City limits, they were commandeered by the military.<br>By day 4 our hotels had run out of fuel and water. Sanitation was dangerously abysmal. As the desperation and despair increased, street crime as well as water levels began to rise. The hotels turned us out and locked their doors, telling us that the "officials" told us to report to the convention center to wait for more buses. As we entered the center of the City, we finally encountered the National Guard. The Guards told us we would not be allowed into the Superdome as the City's primary shelter had descended into a humanitarian and health hellhole. The guards further told us that the City's only other shelter, the Convention Center, was also descending into chaos and squalor and that the police were not allowing anyone else in. Quite naturally, we asked, "If we can't go to the only 2 shelters in the City, what was our alternative?" The guards told us that that was our problem, and no they did not have extra water to give to us. This would be the start of our numerous encounters with callous and hostile "law enforcement".<br><br>We walked to the police command center at Harrah's on Canal Street and were told the same thing, that we were on our own, and no they did not have water to give us. We now numbered several hundred. We held a mass meeting to decide a course of action. We agreed to camp outside the police command post. We would be plainly visible to the media and would constitute a highly visible embarrassment to the City officials. The police told us that we could not stay. <br><br>Regardless, we began to settle in and set up camp. In short order, the police commander came across the street to address our group. He told us he had a solution: we should walk to the Pontchartrain Expressway and cross the greater New Orleans Bridge where the police had buses lined up to take us out of the City. The crowed cheered and began to move. We called everyone back and explained to the commander that there had been lots of misinformation and wrong information and was he sure that there were buses waiting for us. The commander turned to the crowd and stated emphatically, "I swear to you that the buses are there."<br><br>We organized ourselves and the 200 of us set off for the bridge with great excitement and hope. As we marched pasted the convention center, many locals saw our determined and optimistic group and asked where we were headed. We told them about the great news. Families immediately grabbed their few belongings and quickly our numbers doubled and then doubled again. Babies in strollers now joined us, people using crutches, elderly clasping walkers and others people in wheelchairs. We marched the 2-3 miles to the freeway and up the steep incline to the Bridge. It now began to pour down rain, but it did not dampen our enthusiasm.<br>As we approached the bridge, armed Gretna sheriffs formed a line across the foot of the bridge. Before we were close enough to speak, they began firing their weapons over our heads. This sent the crowd fleeing in various directions. As the crowd scattered and dissipated, a few of us inched forward and managed to engage some of the sheriffs in conversation. We told them of our conversation with the police commander and of the commander's assurances. The sheriffs informed us there were no buses waiting. The commander had lied to us to get us to move.<br><br>We questioned why we couldn't cross the bridge anyway, especially as there was little traffic on the 6-lane highway. They responded that the West Bank was not going to become New Orleans and there would be no Superdomes in their City. These were code words for if you are poor and black, you are not crossing the Mississippi River and you were not getting out of New Orleans.<br><br>SNIP<br><br>We arrived at the airport on the day a massive airlift had begun. The airport had become another Superdome. We 8 were caught in a press of humanity as flights were delayed for several hours while George Bush landed briefly at the airport for a photo op. After being evacuated on a coast guard cargo plane, we arrived in San Antonio, Texas.<br>There the humiliation and dehumanization of the official relief effort continued. We were placed on buses and driven to a large field where we were forced to sit for hours and hours. Some of the buses did not have air-conditioners. In the dark, hundreds if us were forced to share two filthy overflowing porta-potties. Those who managed to make it out with any possessions (often a few belongings in tattered plastic bags) we were subjected to two different dog-sniffing searches.<br>Most of us had not eaten all day because our C-rations had been confiscated at the airport because the rations set off the metal detectors. Yet, no food had been provided to the men, women, children, elderly, disabled as they sat for hours waiting to be "medically screened" to make sure we were not carrying any communicable diseases.<br>SNIP<br><br>LARRY BRADSHAW, chief steward of the Paramedic Chapter of SEIU Local 790 in the Bay Area, and LORRIE BETH SLONSKY, a member of the same chapter and editor of the Gurney Gazette. The authors, along with dozens of fellow union members, were trapped by the hurricane while attending a paramedic convention in New Orleans.<br><br> <br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/6/132725/8931" target="top">www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/6/132725/8931</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><br>Alone on the Underpass - Sheperd Smith on Letterman <br><br>"We ended up on that freeway underpass and actually spent the night there because it was clear to us that there was no other media there. We were doing initial reports saying there are a thousands of people coming out of the sewage with no where to go and even people back in our New York headquarters were going 'we're not seeing this anywhere, not on the AP wires, not on the competition, what are you talking about?'...We felt like people had to know what's happening and it put our crew in a position to see things that we never dreamt you would ever see in the United States of America."<br><br><snip><br><br>"I don't think we know yet, Dave. I think right now they are so busy trying to find the dead and save some of the living that they haven't gotten there yet. The time will come for that and it may be right on us but I'm not sure it's now. They should have had a plan to get people out of there. They should have and in the first few days, Dave, we stood on a bridge over the city. Interstate 10 snakes over the city of New Orleans, it's elevated, and by the thousands and the thousands, they emerged from the sewage and had no where to go but to interstate 10 and they sat on interstate 10 for days with no food and no water. Days old babies, elderly people in wheelchairs without the medicine they need day in and day out. I'm on in the afternoon on studio at 3pm on Wednesday afternoon going 'exit 235A -- there are thousands of people who need food and water, send the cavalry' and they didn't come for days and I don't know why that is. I don't know where the breakdown is but I'm confident there are a lot of people who didn't survive because of it."<br><br><snip><br><br>"The federal government had designated on its list of potential catastrophes in the United States. Number one was the earthquake in San Francisco which levels the city. Number three on this list from the federal government was the hurricane which destroys and devastates the city of New Orleans and though they didn't get it, it came close enough and still destroyed."<br><br>"I think there was slowness to react. I don't know yet where it comes from. You know, Dave, we sat on interstate 10's overpass and that was our world. Our world was women with children who don't have formula and an enormous temperature who have been out in the sun for three days and elderly people in wheelchairs who don't have insulin. That was our whole world. And all we knew help was not coming. 'Come to exit 235A and come and save these people lives.' How did that happen? It seems that people were not ready for this. Was it local, was it parish, was it state, was it federal? Is there plenty of blame to pass around? Probably."<br><br>"When we had our disaster in New York. New York notifies Washington. NY notifies Pataki. It's the same thing anywhere in the country where there is a disaster. I grew up down there. These storms are not surprises for governments. Governments are ready for these things. Hurricane Betsy in 1969 was a wake up call for New Orleans. The army corp. of engineers has known forever that these levies will not stand for more than a category three storm. They said it forever. Well it's true now and a lot of people have some questions to answer."<br> <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fnc/aftermath_shep_smith_alone_on_the_underpass_showing_viewers_a_nightmare_25530.asp#more" target="top">www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fnc/aftermath_shep_smith_alone_on_the_underpass_showing_viewers_a_nightmare_25530.asp#more</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=seemslikeadream@rigorousintuition>seemslikeadream</A> at: 9/6/05 5:19 pm<br></i>
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