Understanding 9/11: A Television News Archive

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Understanding 9/11: A Television News Archive

Postby nomo » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:05 pm

Today, the Internet Archive has released to the world an archive of all news programs on nearly every major television channel from 9/11/2001 to 9/16/2001. This exhibit, called Understanding 9/11: A Television News Archive provides a grid navigation system of these many hours of footage from dozens of worldwide news programs and gives us a comprehensive overview of television's reaction to 9/11, on 9/11.

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Re: Understanding 9/11: A Television News Archive

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:07 pm

That is FANTASTIC. Gonna go donate to the IA for the 3rd time this year.

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Re: Understanding 9/11: A Television News Archive

Postby nomo » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:13 pm

Also, here's an incomplete list of all the raw footage from the major networks that day:
http://www.archive.org/details/sept_11_tv_archive
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Re: Understanding 9/11: A Television News Archive

Postby 82_28 » Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:24 pm

Holy crap, that is fantastic! Wow. Bump. Etc.

Some interesting things I noted. Nobody was on cellphones yet as their first thing to reach for and call/text (this was before texting for the most part and even if they were the networks would have been much less robust). Essentially, what I mean is that nobody was filming with their phone cams, nobody was tweeting, nobody was updating their facebook page (none of which existed yet), nobody was even calling one another yet. Cellphones were in and the networks were coming along into what we know of them today, but it wasn't the first inclination for those filmed in this footage to immediately reach for their phones.

But what I find most curious, in a most PKDickian way is that time has seemed to have ceased. 10 years ago people look largely, fashionwise as they do today. No noticeable datedness, as though time really stood still from that day on. It's easy to see datedness within decades before 9/11/2001, but not I don't think, in this decade which has just passed. Hair styles have remained the same, clothing articles don't look like "remember when we wore shit like that?" Etc.

We all defined ourselves by that day and in turn defined one another and ourselves as a global society. Time travel, in this limited way we can do it, is most interesting.

This is a fantastic link and thank you for pointing it out!
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Re: Understanding 9/11: A Television News Archive

Postby Jeff » Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:26 pm

Cheers, nomo!
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Re: Understanding 9/11: A Television News Archive

Postby Bruce Dazzling » Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:37 pm

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Thanks, Nomo!

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Re: Understanding 9/11: A Television News Archive

Postby bks » Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:34 pm

Great find, nomo. Not to be missed amid the bounty is the excellent essay by William Uricchio entitled "Television Conventions." A must-read for RIers [amazing that it was written five days after 9/11].
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Re: Understanding 9/11: A Television News Archive

Postby 8bitagent » Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:22 pm

82_28 wrote:Holy crap, that is fantastic! Wow. Bump. Etc.

Some interesting things I noted. Nobody was on cellphones yet as their first thing to reach for and call/text (this was before texting for the most part and even if they were the networks would have been much less robust). Essentially, what I mean is that nobody was filming with their phone cams, nobody was tweeting, nobody was updating their facebook page (none of which existed yet), nobody was even calling one another yet. Cellphones were in and the networks were coming along into what we know of them today, but it wasn't the first inclination for those filmed in this footage to immediately reach for their phones.

But what I find most curious, in a most PKDickian way is that time has seemed to have ceased. 10 years ago people look largely, fashionwise as they do today. No noticeable datedness, as though time really stood still from that day on. It's easy to see datedness within decades before 9/11/2001, but not I don't think, in this decade which has just passed. Hair styles have remained the same, clothing articles don't look like "remember when we wore shit like that?" Etc.

We all defined ourselves by that day and in turn defined one another and ourselves as a global society. Time travel, in this limited way we can do it, is most interesting.

This is a fantastic link and thank you for pointing it out!


I know we've rarely talked, but I feel like we are on a very very similar wavelength. What you just articulated gave me goosebumps as I've said the SAME thing over and over to friends.

The ONLY aesthetic difference between then and now is endless texting/smart phones, and the technicolor nightmarecoat of ipad/smart/cloud intergration. And back then tough guy rape rap rock was popular, now it's jangly indie rock(tho pop pop music hasnt changed at all...switch out spears and aguilara for gaga and perry)
But in 1990 when I was in jr high, they showed us a video shot of the girls volleyball team from 1985 and we all laughed at how dated and "80's" it looked...even tho 1990 was STILL the 80's pretty much.
Look at Taxi Driver, look at Easy Rider, look at Ridgemont high, look at Hackers or Speed. These all look VERY much of their time period(Se7en looks timeless as do a few other films)

But then look at LATE 90's films...The Matrix, Fight Club, Being John Malkovich, Eyes Wide Shut, etc. NOTHING about those films look like they couldnt have been filmed today.
Agent Smith in the Matrix refers to(Im assuming 1999/millennium) time being supplanted by the machine state without people realizing, so that time essentially got stuck in repeat. It's been non time ever since, a foggy dr office vestibule with nothing but dated Highlights and Golf Digest issues to read.

The horror show on Vessey and Church changed much...but in a way, it also got time frozen. And people, even if they cant put their finger on it, dont realize how much has changed and stayed the same.
Its why even most lefties dare not question 9/11, as a spell has been woven over so much of America that even the Bush years couldnt wake people up from. And just as we all predicted in 2007 and 2008
ALL of the yuppy/college left fell asleep when Obama "won" and then the fake controlled "waking up" of white angry conservative America was rattled in a sort of coopted steamvalve.

It's true, I do not believe in a lot of the 9/11 truth theories or the notion that "The US government/neocons carried out 9/11"...I feel this is as empty an explanation as the official left/right narrative.
I've come to view 9/11 as a much more complex, Jungian sort of prism whose explanation is a lot more vexing and sinister. But I do consider myself a 'truther' and fully am with the view that "incompetence", "blowback" and the leftgatekeeping crap has been a poison pill. But Ive also grown to find the stuff 82_28 talks about, or stories of that missing Indian woman or the identity of the Falling Man just as interesting as truther theories. 9/11 could be some CIA/Mossad/Saudi/ISI/Vatican/Masonic conspiracy, I've long stopped caring.

All I know is 1) Jihadism is a controlled proxy tool of hidden black networks and corporate interests, no need to "falsely blame" groups when you got willing brainwashed manchurian college kids
willing to stand where they're told

2) 9/11 has a lot deeper implications and origins than "pax americana/oil/pentagon spookery"
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Re: Understanding 9/11: A Television News Archive

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:38 pm

But then look at LATE 90's films...The Matrix, Fight Club, Being John Malkovich, Eyes Wide Shut, etc. NOTHING about those films look like they couldnt have been filmed today.
Agent Smith in the Matrix refers to(Im assuming 1999/millennium) time being supplanted by the machine state without people realizing, so that time essentially got stuck in repeat. It's been non time ever since, a foggy dr office vestibule with nothing but dated Highlights and Golf Digest issues to read.



8bit I'm just wondering if the same thing happened in 1900?

But it could also be that we are no longer with it.
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Re: Understanding 9/11: A Television News Archive

Postby 8bitagent » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:52 am

Joe Hillshoist wrote:
But then look at LATE 90's films...The Matrix, Fight Club, Being John Malkovich, Eyes Wide Shut, etc. NOTHING about those films look like they couldnt have been filmed today.
Agent Smith in the Matrix refers to(Im assuming 1999/millennium) time being supplanted by the machine state without people realizing, so that time essentially got stuck in repeat. It's been non time ever since, a foggy dr office vestibule with nothing but dated Highlights and Golf Digest issues to read.



8bit I'm just wondering if the same thing happened in 1900?

But it could also be that we are no longer with it.


That is a very good question...sadly I would have to defer to 82_28 or anyone here versed in archival material or history of early 20th century culture. I will say, on the outside it feels like invention was
much greater and faster at the turn of the 20th century. And seeing those rare color photos of depression era families from the late 1930's from the National Archive gave me an even stronger sense of
how people had a deeper appreciation for shit. Now it's like your texts dont go through or your smartphone is on the fritz its the apocalypse
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Re: Understanding 9/11: A Television News Archive

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:23 am

Like that website "white whine".
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Re: Understanding 9/11: A Television News Archive

Postby MinM » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:23 am


As the nation prepares to mark the 10th anniversary of the September 11 attacks, a pair of leading internet archivists are launching an ambitious project called "Understanding 9/11: A Television News Archive," which catalogs 3,000 hours of domestic and international TV news footage from 20 channels from the week around September 11, 2001. Television news coverage of the September 11 attacks and their aftermath not only documented one of the most important events in mass memory but also influenced public perception.

We feature excerpts of coverage from the global archive and speak with its organizers, Brewster Kahle and Rick Prelinger. Kahle is an internet entrepreneur, activist, digital librarian and founder of the Internet Archive and the Open Content Alliance, a group of organizations committed to making a permanent, publicly accessible archive of digitized texts.

Prelinger is an archivist, writer, filmmaker and founder of the Prelinger Archives, a collection of 60,000 advertising, educational, industrial and amateur films acquired by the Library of Congress in 2002 after 20 years’ operation. "[9/11] was a major event that was really a television event. People really understood this through television," says Kahle. He adds that seeing "how people are starting to come to grips with it really shaped how we saw the whole event." [includes rush transcript]

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Re: Understanding 9/11: A Television News Archive

Postby vince » Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:30 pm

82_28 wrote:
But what I find most curious, in a most PKDickian way is that time has seemed to have ceased. 10 years ago people look largely, fashionwise as they do today. No noticeable datedness, as though time really stood still from that day on. It's easy to see datedness within decades before 9/11/2001, but not I don't think, in this decade which has just passed. Hair styles have remained the same, clothing articles don't look like "remember when we wore shit like that?" Etc.


I feel the exactly same way.
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Re: Understanding 9/11: A Television News Archive

Postby 2012 Countdown » Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:26 pm

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Re: Understanding 9/11: A Television News Archive

Postby Nordic » Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:21 am

Yeah, and ten years later you still can't make a cell phone call from a jetliner.

Weird how a few people were able to back in 2001.
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