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Civilian spies on the internet; police state 2.0; Jihad Jane

Postby justdrew » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:12 pm

Net Posse Tracked 'Jihad Jane' for Three Years
Civilian monitors warn of others on the Net who are more dangerous

Obviously, "Jihad Jane"'s best defense would just be to say she was sleuthing and trying to setup entrapment to catch some jihadi's of her own. In fact I think one of the groups they busted in Florida claimed exactly that, that they were trying to investigate and maybe claim a reward for turning in some terrorists, but the folks they were messing with turned out to be informants and so that plan went to heck.
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Re: Civilian spies on the internet; police state 2.0; Jihad Jane

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:46 pm

justdrew wrote:Net Posse Tracked 'Jihad Jane' for Three Years
Civilian monitors warn of others on the Net who are more dangerous


ABCNEWS wrote:'Net Posse Tracked 'Jihad Jane' for Three Years
Civilian Monitors Warn of Others Like 'Jane' on the 'Net Who Are More Dangerous
By EAMON McNIFF

March 11, 2010—


While the rest of America was stunned to hear that a suburban Pennsylvania woman allegedly used the Internet identity of Jihad Jane and tried to join militant jihadists, for a group of 'Net vigilantes it was old news.

In fact, at least one of the Web sleuths claims to have alerted the feds to Colleen LaRose's alleged efforts to raise money and recruit fighters for Islamic terrorists and to carry out her own jihad.

Groups like JawaReport, Quoth the Raven and the YouTube Smackdown Corps claim they had been monitoring LaRose's growing militancy for three years, and watched as the Internet -- particularly YouTube -- fed her fervor.

They also said "Jihad Jane" is not the only one on the Internet that the groups are monitoring.

"There are certainly many others out there who are more eloquent and appear to be more dangerous from the way they talk," a man calling himself Rusty Shackleford told ABC News.

Shackleford, a pen name, says he is a libertarian college professor who created the blog JawaReport in 2004 after he was enraged that Iraqi Islamists had beheaded an American named Nick Berg.
((SO NOW VIGILANTES GET SOURCE PROTECTION FROM ABC?))

"It was my way of venting. But mostly it was about countering violent Islamist propaganda, specifically the videos that were being produced by al Qaeda in Iraq and other Salaafist jihadists fighting our troops," he said.

Shackleford said his goal from the beginning was combating violent Islamist material and support on the Web.

"I'm a blogger, but also an activist against violent Islamism. One of the things we do is try and pressure Webhosts to remove Websites that belong to terrorist organizations. An example of this would be the dozen or so times we've successfully had the Taliban's website removed. The websites sometimes pop back up, sometimes not," Shackleford said.

Shackleford and other contributors to JawaReport and sites like it noticed YouTube had become a hub for videos and comments in support of violent extremism and attacks against the West and its allies, leading to the creation of the YouTube Smackdown.

Shackleford said the groups identify videos in support of violent Islamism and pressure the Web site to take them down, "as they would child pornography or other obscene material."

According to the "Quoth the Raven" blog, since the "smackdown" movement began in 2007, users have had over 31,000 videos removed from YouTube, and 695 users suspended. They say LaRose was one of those suspended.

YouTube Is Popular Spot For Jihadist Videos

Victoria Grand, head of policy for YouTube could not comment specifically on LaRose's alleged videos, but did say YouTube depended on it's community to flag innapropriate content.

"We have 20 hours of video uploaded to the site every minute, it's a ton of content and we don't prescreen content, it's not possible. We have an innovative community policing mechanism in place," Grand said.

According to Grand, YouTube's policy for inappropriate content includes incitement of violence, hate speech, graphic violence, and members of foreign terrorist organizations.

"We always are trying to balance the idea of free speech and the idea of national security and keeping our users safe," she said.

For those policing YouTube for alleged terrorist content, they say LaRose was constantly on their radar.

"A few years ago a few of us began to notice her YouTube postings. Like many other YouTube users supportive of violent jihad, she would often post al Qaeda or related videos," Shackleford said.

"It was pretty hard to miss her," said Robert, an administrator of SmackdownCorps.com. "She made lots and lots of encouraging comments on Islamic videos. The trick was to find her new user name after we suspended each account. She was very persistent. But again, she made it easy to find her."

Robert said as he followed LaRose on YouTube, he witnessed her descent into violent extremism.

"In my eyes, Jihad Jane was a product of YouTube. I watched her become more radicalized and her influence grew all on YouTube. YouTube provided an excellent platform for her to spread her message of hate and she used it well. She was seen as, and portrayed herself on YouTube as a mother figure to the young Islamists and they respected her and looked up to her," he alleges. ((POLICE THE WEB!!!))

"She was one who would post comments on the terrorist videos which I was viewing, things like 'Allah Akbar!' or 'Kill the kafir pigs' or 'Kill the Jews' kinds of things. Those types of statements put her on my radar," said a person affiliated with the YouTube Smackdown and the JawaReport who wished to only be known as a "42-year-old mom from the Mid West." ((ONCE AGAIN A HERO WHO GETS TO SPEAK VIA ABC WITH ANONYMOUS SOURCING))

According to Mid West Mom, she noticed LaRose a year and a half ago, and although she admits "feeling sorry" for La Rose, she also said she knew she "needed to be stopped."

"The question is, are they serious or are they just blowing steam? It's very difficult to tell. Colleen crossed the line as far as I was concerned when she started recruiting to raise funds for the mujahedeen back in June of last year. Not only was she a terrorist sympathizer, she was now operating illegally," Midwest Mom said.

"Jihad Jane" Went Over the Line

One person claimed responsibility on the JawaReport for alerting the FBI to "Jihad Jane," saying that she was gathering a growing following of "real terrorists."

"When she finally made an account which she actively solicited funds for the Pakistan Mujaheddin, which at this point I knew she had acquired the contacts for, I knew she had become a real threat for our safety and had officially violated U.S. Federal Law," the anonymous blogger wrote. "It was time to report her. This being in July 2009 I formally called the FBI in Philadelphia to report her."

When the FBI was asked if a member of YouTube Smackdown tipped them off to "Jihad Jane," Special Agent J.J. Klaver of the Philadelphia office said, "I can't comment on the case at all, any aspect of it."

But the federal indictment of LaRose cites Internet communications as early as March 2009. According to the indictment, LaRose has been indicted on federal charges that include providing material support to terrorists and conspiracy to kill in a foreign country. The indictment also says La Rose and her coconspirators tried to recruit fighters and solicited funds for terrorists organizations online.

There are numerous jihadist sites on the Web. They range from small time bloggers like "Jihad Jane" and the Mujahideen of the YouTube, to the Taliban and militant cleric Anwar al Awlaki who had conversations with both Fort Hood gunman Major Nidal Malik Hasan and the alleged "underwear bomber" Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab who tried to blow up a plane over Detroit on Christmas Day.

Shackleford described what is going on online between his groups and the extremists as "war," and said to him there is certainly an "e-Jihad" going on.

"Anwar al Awlaki had a lengthy discourse on this a couple of years ago: 44 ways to support the jihad, electronic jihad being front and center," he said.

"I don't know that there is a front line in the war on terror. That might be part of the problem. It could be said the whole world is the front line, but the online aspect is certainly a central battlefield," said Robert.

"Terror is a weapon that needs media coverage to succeed and the Internet provides the perfect vehicle for them. ((STOP REPORTING, NEWS ORGS! YOU'RE TOOLS OF THE TERRORISTS!!!)) I would say that is a serious battle and I am not sure who is winning. This seems to be a back burner issue for many, but it really needs to be addressed," he said.

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Another analysis piece with exclusively one view represented. Can't they find a professor who might disagree with "Shackleford" (why is this familiar?!) and maybe even allow his name to be used?
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Re: Civilian spies on the internet; police state 2.0; Jihad Jane

Postby justdrew » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:55 pm

wasn't there a Rusty Shackleford account here at one time?

is that one of the classic fake names used by artists who don't want their name associated with shoddy work done for money? Can't think of it now but there's a few classic ones people have used over the decades.

I just did a quick search, yep, there was a so-named account here at one time.
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Postby Uncle $cam » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:59 pm



From the urban dictionary:

Rusty Shackleford
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... hackleford
Alias used by the government paranoid Dale Gribble, Hank Hill's friend on the animated series 'King of the Hill'. He also claims to own Shackleford's birth certificate.
"No, wait! Rusty Shackleford wants a pizza!" - Dale Gribble


People are saying, "This seems like another one of those false flag operations to justify further restraints on our freedom.", which is typical 101 questioning that needs to be asked, but, we need to go further, the problem is, whether it is or not, we have a system that has become able to subsume any and all agency of this type to further it's power. Almost like a self replicating network, that routes around damage and keeps going. Is this like the proverbial leviathan, that coldly feeds on everything in it's path good or ill, or like the blob* that engulfs everything. An Egregore that they keep having to feed with these serial shooting incidents, as well as other events?

A thought-form of power that is maintained as they keep feeding; virgins, children or innocent bystanders, any human flesh?...lol

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blob
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Postby JackRiddler » Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:48 pm

Right, "Rusty Shackleford" is the dick troll who was trying to lure people into reading "The Big Lebowski" as an advance rendering of 9/11.

Turns out it's a pseudonym used by the fictional Dale Gribble, the wacky "conspiracy theorist" loner character on "King of the Hill." So I guess it's popular as a username for Internet trolls.

This article highlights something I've thought has been going on all along: self-appointed troll gangs running their own patriotic "war on terror" against perceived enemies and traitors on the Web. The JREFers are well-known for their brand of it, but they don't do it very much in secret, far as I know. Freepers troll all the time on DU, and many of them are clumsy and get caught right away. They'll pose as ultra-left or say crazy stuff looking for agreement, or try to draw legit posters into calling for violence. But others may be better at the game.

I expect if we had a god's eye view we'd see this explains a great deal of what goes on. I expect many of the craziest and most aggressive cells undermining "9/11 truth" are not government disinfo, though they may be employing ideas that originated there. I'm guessing right-wingers appalled that people would think The President was involved in the mass murder of his own citizens, or angered by "antiwar traitors who want the jihadists to win," etc. They might decide to hoist the "conspiracy theorists" by their own petard, i.e., by raising accusations that the "CTs" are actually part of "the conspiracy" themselves.

Organizing on their own, some as a kind of parlor-game hobby, others clumsily (like the Freepers caught on DU), and others more in the mode of sophisticated ARGs. Someone patient could spend quite a long time building cred online. Consider how addictive Web boards and blogs are anyway, if we spend all this time here, it's believable others would too. Or take a look at the lonely guy (who shall go unmentioned), who seems to spend his whole life on patrol at DU, waiting for me to post so that he can stalk on in with the usual sophistry. If he has the energy for that, others (including himself) will have the energy for more deceptive and elaborate practices. In fact, having seen so many trolls exposed in my 15 years online, there is NO doubt that this kind of stuff is going on. The question is, how much and by whom at a given site?
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Re: Civilian spies on the internet; police state 2.0; Jihad Jane

Postby 82_28 » Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:24 pm

The eloquent and vicious lefty, Mykeru's online battle, which threatened to spill into physical interaction, with a certain "Lord Spatula" is an awesome read. Happened in 2005. This whole link is worth reading.

http://web.archive.org/web/200606131950 ... n/spatula/

Just the intro here:


I'm sure many people will dismiss this page as beating a dead horse, or a kicking an already whipped dog. I like to think of it as a public service while belaboring a point.

One point is that despite all the talk (read "bullshit") about civility and changing the tone, the right wing relies on forms of violence, whether verbal, implied or actual. I'm not a pacifist. Sometimes violence is necessary and deeply satisfying. I'm just suspicious of people whose only tool in their toolbox is a hammer. For many people this seems to be the appeal: A way for the otherwise inadequate to act like tough guys, their violence safely done at a distance and by proxy.

Another point is that the people most taken with tough talk and violence are often the least willing to accept the consequences for it, much less put themselves at risk. There's a laundry list of right wing militarists that personally played out every trick in the book to avoid exposing themselves to actual military service, combat and personal risk. And yet one of the right-wings favorite tactics is denigrating people's manhood, or at least manhood as they define it. You know how it is: People on the left are all passive little tree-hugging quiche eaters, Hillary was really running the country, and Joseph Wilson was doing the bidding of that CIA Madam Mao, Valerie Plame.

Not seeking out violence, even avoiding it, is generally a noble thing to do. However, as the right wing continues to use the language of violence, eliminationist rhetoric, even appeals to assassination by Republican party leaders, there comes a point where turning away from violence, and not standing up to it, is worse than appeasement: It's active encouragement.

This episode is just one example where, at the very least, one right winger embarrassed himself by beginning to believe his own fantasy of right-wing shit-talking strength.

You see, Steve Crager and the boys associated both with Spatula City BBS and The Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler like to threaten people. For those of us who have been on the net for a while, and know what a big all-talk net bully looks like, this isn't a problem. Within the confines of their own homes, their own site and the pound and a half of damp meat that passes for brains between their ears, they can do and say what they like. Unfortunately, really mean, stupid people are simply a fact of American politics, and I seriously doubt that even the most ill-informed, self-delusional puffed up wingnut asshole is much worse than specimens like the 19th century "Know-Nothing" party. I encourage their little insular mutual support circle jerks, but when they start thinking their smack talk translates into any right in the real world to engage in thuggish intimidation, they're going to get the backside of my hand either metaphorically or, if they've actually got the balls, which they don't, literally.

Even the most marginal member of the right-wing echo chamber does his part to promote not only lies, but the particular wingnut pathology that is making a hash of American politics, the rule of law and the expression of simple decency.

Still, even bottom feeders like them could be intimidating for some people. The last thing I want to see is people self-censoring themselves because of the antics of lowlife loser scum like Steve Crager.

So, if you've been threatened by Crager or one of the pack of yappy little dogs he runs with, if he has challenged you to "come say it to my face" (CSITMF) or some other wingnut douchebag has published your address and a Google map showing where you can be found, and try to give the impression that their well trained crack regiment of Cheeto-breath keyboard warriors will be kicking down your door in the near future, I hope this will assure you that they are, to a man, nothing but a bunch of blowhard net pussies. That sort of intimidation is cheap, easily done and can give the impression to the impressionable that the person making the threat is more savvy and possessing more information than they really have.
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Postby Uncle $cam » Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:36 am

You know, one of the things that comes to mind is a discussion on another board a few years back in how these fuckers work. You see, one of the ways the agencies use to get around FISA (the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) as well as domestic laws, was to farm shit out to third party and use their gatherings as a way to bypass set legal protocol. In other words, for example, if they can say they got their info from Germany*, ( and vice verse) they can spy by proxy then technically say they didn't break any laws.

I could see them offering certain open source spy tools to third party vigilante type citizen groups or looking the other way while these concerned "Patriots" and third party contractors do whats best for Gods country. Save it from those 'enemy belligerents'.

I'm told thats how all countries do it now to bypass their own laws, scratch my back, I'll scratch yours sorta thing...

You know, like we are prolly being monitored now. *waves* at nice g-man, or g-man wannabe paid contract bootlicker and constitution 'shitter on.
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Postby beeline » Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:04 am

Link

Posted on Fri, Aug. 26, 2011


Maryland teen arrested by FBI in Jihad Jane plot, sources say

By John Shiffman

Inquirer Staff Writer

The FBI has secretly arrested a Maryland juvenile who allegedly conspired in a terrorism plot with the Philadelphia-area woman known as Jihad Jane, sources have told The Inquirer.

The boy is 17 but was 15 when he conspired with Colleen LaRose of Pennsburg, Montgomery County, to solicit money and recruits for a jihad, according to documents and sources. His case is sealed in U.S. District Court in Philadephia.

His family emigrated from Pakistan four years ago, and relatives say the boy - Mohammed K., of Ellicott City, Md. - was headed to Johns Hopkins University on a full scholarship this fall. They also say he was questioned by the FBI, without a parent or lawyer present, at least eight times.

"Now we know that was a mistake," a relative said. "We had thought everything was taken care of and fine because he talked to the FBI so many times - but the next thing you know, a year later, without any warning, the FBI took Mohammed away. It was a shock to us and to him."

Family members spoke on condition of anonymity. The Inquirer is not publishing the boy's last name because he is a juvenile and the specific charges have not been made public.

Federal charges against juveniles are rare. Nationally, only 100 juveniles are serving federal sentences, and federal officials could not cite another juvenile who has been arrested on terror-related charges.

Mohammed's arrest came six months after LaRose, who called herself "Jihad Jane" on websites, pleaded guilty to conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists, including providing a U.S. passport, and lying to FBI agents about it. A coconspirator, Jamie Paulin-Ramirez of Leadville, Colo., pleaded guilty to providing material aid to terrorists.

U.S. counterterrorism officials have said the Jihad Jane case represents a new and alarming threat - suburban, American-born women aiding Islamic terror groups.

Prosecutors said LaRose worked obsessively on her computer "to communicate with, recruit, and incite other jihadists." In 2009, she agreed to help try to kill the Swedish artist Lars Vilk, whose 2007 drawing of a dog with the head of the prophet Muhammad offended some Muslims.

Mohammed K.'s relatives said they do not know much about the allegations - or what Mohammed told the FBI - but are confused and angry that they allowed the boy to spend so much time with agents.

"When they said, 'Can we take him out for a few hours?' it seemed so informal," one relative said. "And now, in a way, we feel cheated."

FBI spokesman J.J. Klaver and other federal officials declined to comment.

Mohammed's court-appointed lawyer, Jeffrey Lindy of Philadelphia, said, "This is a juvenile matter and is confidential, so it would be inappropriate to comment." Mark Wilson, a federal public defender representing LaRose, also declined to comment.

LaRose traveled to Ireland in September 2009 to meet several coconspirators. She offered to use her U.S. identity and her boyfriend's passport, and to marry a jihadist to help with the terror plot, officials said. The plot fizzled for reasons that have not been made public.

The FBI believes that Mohammed was part of the conspiracy, and that he met LaRose in a jihadist chatroom, sources said.

The only people publicly charged in the United States are LaRose and Ramirez. The other alleged coconspirators - including Mohammed and the Irish suspects - are cited in the LaRose indictment only by geographic location, numbers, and "CC," the code for coconspirator. In the public document, sources said Mohammed is "CC#4, a resident of the United States."

The indictment alleges that in July 2009, when Mohammed was 15, he posted "an online solicitation for funds to support terrorism on behalf of defendant Colleen R. LaRose, a.k.a. Fatima LaRose, a.k.a. Jihad Jane."

"I write this message on behalf of a respected sister," Mohammed allegedly wrote. "The sister has been in touch with a brother [who] appealed for urgent funds stating that his resources are limited. The sister has provide me proofs that have confirmed that the brother is . . . true. . . . I know the sister and by Allah all money will be transferred to her. The sister will then transfer the money to the brother. . . ."

The LaRose indictment also alleges that Mohammed forwarded her a questionnaire "in which [he] asked another woman about her beliefs and intentions with regard to jihad."

At the end of the questionnaire, prosecutors said, Mohammed wrote: "The reason why I am not providing much information as to why I am asking the above-mentioned information is due to security. . . . Also, if you have any contacts to other sisters (only the ones whom you extremely trust. . .!!!), please forward this message to them."

Mohammed and LaRose met in a jihadist chat room, sources said.

The FBI arrested Mohammed on July 6, family members said, and he is being held at the Berks County Youth Detention Center, about three hours' drive from their home, which is near Baltimore.

During several interviews, relatives said family members are all legal residents of the United States, and moved here to get a better education. The parents are the first in the family to be literate; the children will be the first generation to attend college. Mohammed's father works for a delivery company.

Mohammed and his siblings shined in school, but did not socialize much, relatives said, because their parents insisted that they stick to their studies. They were not permitted sleepovers or even to play with other children in the neighborhood.

"School, education is everything," a relative said. "If you waste one second on anything else, you are disrespecting your elders."

A year after they arrived, Mohammed found himself excelling academically, but also, to the concern of other family members, spending hours alone online. He became moody and did not talk much, though he never spoke of violent, religious, or political thoughts - the kind of comments authorities found on his computer.

Mohammed's outlook changed after the FBI seized the family's computers last year and began meeting with him. Mohammed seemed to become more social, relatives said. "We hoped he'd come out of his shell more when he went off to college," a relative said.

Family members remain shocked, they said. They believe Mohammed was lured by an adult and was too young to understand the consequences.

"Some 47-year-old woman was taking advantage of a kid who was just 14 or 15 years old, someone who's easy to brainwash," a relative said. "How did this happen?"
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Postby crikkett » Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:56 am

Is anyone else following the Google+ nymwars? There seems to be a "real name" movement among service providers that dovetails quite nicely with a lot of internet security stories I've been reading in the last month or so.
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Postby Plutonia » Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:38 am

Uncle $cam wrote:I could see them offering certain open source spy tools to third party vigilante type citizen groups or looking the other way while these concerned "Patriots" and third party contractors do whats best for Gods country. Save it from those 'enemy belligerents'.

I'm told thats how all countries do it now to bypass their own laws, scratch my back, I'll scratch yours sorta thing...

You know, like we are prolly being monitored now. *waves* at nice g-man, or g-man wannabe paid contract bootlicker and constitution 'shitter on.

Closer look at Project Vigilant

Posted by Bailey on Mon, 15 Aug 2011

Project Vigilant made headlines after last years Defcon conference where Chet Uber alleged that Adrian Lamo volunteered for the secret organization and had been encouraged to inform the federal government about the leak of diplomatic cables by Bradley Manning. Uber also claimed that Vigilant monitors the traffic of 12 regional Internet service providers.

The news made various headlines (Forbes) but was later dismissed as a fraud or publicity stunt due to the seemingly unlikeliness of these boisterous claims. However, as far as I know, Adrian Lamo has never disassociated himself with Project Vigilant or Chet Uber and there is evidence of a relationship between the two before Mannings outing. In fact a bit more than a month before Adrian’s April 27 involuntary hospitalization and two months before Manning first alleged contact with Adrian, Chet had tweeted to Adrian something along the lines, “[Adrian] In a fiasco that I hope he seriously works his way out of”. Chet Uber deleted his twitter tonight after a pow-wow with myself so the record is no longer available although it can still be found here.

Last June, right after Manning was revealed as the Wikileaks source, Chet Uber went on a media compaign to build publicity for Project Vigilant. He worked with a reporter at the San Francisco Chronicle to publish two stories revealing Project Vigilant. One of these stories focused on the high profile individuals who were involved and similarly I am reexamining the publicly available connections with institutions such as NSA, DOJ, DOD, DHS, DARPA, and various high-profile federal contractors.

During this same time, Chet Uber sought out Greg Hoglund CEO of HBGary in a private email for “highly sensitive work”. At the time HBGary was working on campaigns which dubiously targeted journalist Glenn Greenwald and other Wikileaks supporters who had clearly done nothing wrong.

Mark Rasch
Formerly DOJ
Currently CSC

Mark Rasch served for nine years as the former head of the computer crime unit at the US Department of Justice during which time he was involved with high profile hacker prosecution cases such as those targeting Kevin Mitnick and Robert Morris.

The Department of Justice recently secretly compelled Twitter and presumably other social media sites to turn over information related to Wikileaks supporters Iceland MP Birgitta Jonsdottir, Tor contributor Jacob Applebaum and others. The DOJ has spearheaded arrests of members of Anonymous who participated in denial of service protests against PayPal and other sites in reaction to their policies towards Wikileaks, and has secret grand juries that are investigating both Anonymous and Wikileaks.

Mark remains actively involved in the Cybersecurity community as a Director of Cybersecurity & Privacy Consulting for the federal government contractor Computer Sciences Corporation (CSC.com) that has had known contracts with NASA, FAA, and the IRS. They provide Cybersecurity services to various levels of government throughout the world. As I interpret it, Marks job would be to outsource some of this work to contractors potentially similar to “Project Vigilant”. Mark also sits on various Cybersecurity advisory boards.

Mark reportedly serves as General Counsel to Project Vigilant.

Ira Winkler
Formerly NSA/DOD/CSC
Currently ISSA/Author

Ira Winkler became involved in the Cybersecurity community at the Department of Defense and NSA where he performed work related to cryptanalysis and signals intelligence. Subsequently he began serving as a consultant to government contractors. In stories recounted during a CSPAN BookTV talk he reminded me of a real-life Martin Bishop from the movie Sneakers. That is, he recounts anecdotes of penetration testing corporate networks as a threat analyst.

Ira is the author of a couple Cybersecurity books, the latest of which is Spies Among Us: How to Stop the Spies, Terrorists, Hackers, and Criminals You Don’t Even Know You Encounter Every Day. Ira also worked at CSC five years prior to Mark Rasch and he has also worked as a Security Strategist for HP and sits on various advisory boards.

Ira is reportedly Vigilant’s Public Affairs Officer

Blain Burnham
Formerly NSA
Currently University of Nebraska

Blaine Burnham formerly NSA Information Security expert between 1987-1998. Before the NSA, Blaine worked at the Los Alamos National Laboratory developing tools and techniques to achieve higher levels of Information Security to secure the US national nuclear weapons arsenal. He is now the executive director of Nebraska University Consortium on Information at University of Nebraska.

Blaine position with Vigilant is listed as Independent Validation & Verification.

Wayne Wilson
Formerly DOD
Northrop Grumman
Currently WTSI

Wayne Wilson has US Top Secret security clearance. He has worked with military contractor Northrop Grumman and Department of Defence contractor The Yellowstone Group where his primary focus was on “Cybersecurity and Linguistics for the NSA and other Agencies”.

Wayne Wilson is associated with Project Vigilant through its parent BBHC Global who’s business is registered at the same address in Omaha NE as two others apparently operated by Wayne Wilson (I suspect Steven Ruhe may be a cover as the owner of BBHC Global).

Suzanne Gorman
Formerly NYSE/SIAC

Suzanne Gorman is the former security chief for a subsidiary of the New York Stock Exchange called Securities Industry Automation Corporation. SIAC provides the computers, network, hardware and cybersecurity required to run the NYSE. At SIAC and The NYSE Group, Ms. Gorman designed and implemented a comprehensive Information Security program.

Gorman served four years as the Chairperson of the Financial Services Information Sharing Analysis Center (FS/ISAC). The FS/ISAC is a private sector organization that works closely with various government and private sector entities to help assess and prevent myriad threats to the US economy. She’s also a member of the United States Secret Service New York Electronic Crimes Task Force. Suzanne’s role at both SIAC and FS/ISAC was to essentially protect US economic markets from cyber-terrorist attacks.

Suzanne is said to be a major leader of Vigilant but her role is otherwise unspecified.

Kevin Manson was a Instructor at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center of the Department of Homeland Security. He is quoted by Chet Uber as saying “Red Tape Will Not Defeat Terrorism,” nicely summing up the role private institutions have in the war on terror with less regulation and more abuse of privacy and the rule of law.

George Johnson
Formerly DARPA

George Johnson worked for Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) as a web developer on a web portal project which “tied together the national security community”.

Kevin and George now work for NC4 (nc4.us) on a project called Cybercop which provides “ultra-secure” web portals for sharing information between private and governmental public institutions.

A quick look at some additional people associated with Project Vigilant show they are similarly well qualified,

AJ Fardella, Contracted for Secret Service, DOJ, DEA
Richard Brandt, former Journalist for BusinessWeek
Mike Tomasiewicz, ConAgra Foods Sys Admin, certified as InfoSec professional
Doug Jacobson, Professor of Electrical/Computer Engineering at Iowa State University, founder of Cybersecurity business Palisade Systems
Christophe Veltsos, Faculty of Computer Information Science at Minnesota State University

That is at least a dozen highly reputable individuals allegedly associated with Project Vigilant. While I don’t trust anything Chet Uber has claimed, these names did not appear out of thin air. The involvement of Project Vigilant in the Bradley Manning story is unclear, but it seems plausible to me that some of these individuals were aware of the Manning-Lamo contact at an early stage and may well have had influence in the aftermath.

While Tim Webster (former Army Cybersecurity) has claimed he provided Adrian with Army officials to contact and which may have ultimately led to Manning’s arrest in late May (I believe Webster to be credible), Chet Uber also claims some involvement – but in a twitter DM with me Chet clarified that he “reported [Adrians] allegation to the people that would actually care about him discussing his actions while a CI [Counter-Intelligence or Confidential Informant?]”. As anyone who has read Uber on twitter or elsewhere knows, he uses ridiculous cryptic acronyms everywhere. Chet is the weakest link in the Project Vigilant story and he is likely why his story of warrantless wiretaps and Army of volunteer hackers seems laughable to most. He also claimed to me that Project Vigilant was previously known as Vigilare which comes up on google as an ongoing project of Boeing Defense Australia but seems likely unrelated.

I sent Adrian Lamo a previous copy of this text and he acknowledged it and has had about two days to offer a response to it and has not yet. As far as I know, Adrian has never denied a relationship to Project Vigilant and Chet Uber – and Chet calls Adrian a friend. Scary bad-guys or not, silly wannabe hacker Aaron Barr of HBGary have shown, many times, their complete lack of ethics already – one can only imagine what former NSA and other spooks may be up to outside of the confines Kevin Manson’s “Red Tape”.

We also know Adrian has recently behaved unethically but I still want to believe the best in him. Adrian hasn’t yet responded but he’s shown some willingness to. I encourage all readers to mention @6 on twitter and ask him to come out about his relationship with Project Vigilant.


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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:48 pm

!!!! Quite a find, Plutonia, thank you so much for that one.
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Postby Plutonia » Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:52 pm

Wombaticus Rex wrote:!!!! Quite a find, Plutonia, thank you so much for that one.


Lamo did an interview with Aljazeera a while ago and in the background you can see he's running a Tor node and monitoring traffic. That was the one where his "Snitch" hat made it's debut. I think I can find a picture ...

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More about Lamo and Tor sniffing:
http://translate.google.com/translate?j ... trafikk%2F

http://www.reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comme ... _pay_more/

http://pastebin.com/TXWJ0kd2


Baily Carson has been aggressively scratching away at the "How Manning Met Lamo" fairy tale; recently squeezing a rather bizarre interview from Chet Uber and yesterday bombarding Lamo on Twitter, trying to get through his routine facile dogmatism to a straight answer. Resemblance to squid wrastling accute. :?
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:01 pm

And this:

justdrew wrote:In fact I think one of the groups they busted in Florida claimed exactly that, that they were trying to investigate and maybe claim a reward for turning in some terrorists, but the folks they were messing with turned out to be informants and so that plan went to heck.


Cosmic LULZ. I would imagine this kind of clusterfuckage characterizes the vast majority of the War on Terror.
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