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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby bks » Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:21 pm

wombaticus rex wrote:

Mayo Shattuck III - online reputation management with a five figure budget:
https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=dczjj ... 6v2k&pli=1



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Each well optimized, padded with unique content focusing on his virtues and philanthropy, and linking to each other as well as to positive articles on trusted sites:

http://www.mayo-shattuck.com
http://www.mayoashattuck.com
http://www.mayoashattuck.org
http://www.mayoshattuck.net
http://www.mayoshattuck.org
http://www.mayo-a-shattuck.org
http://www.mayoshattuck3.net
http://www.mayo-a-shattuck-news.com

Work with client's energy company to:

*start a golf tournament on September 11th,

*launch a "911 alternative" phoneline, and

*announce a '9/11-inspired' "Emergency Preparedness" Plan.




I just want to make clear that what Mayo did might have been a "boutique" job at the time but here and now in 2011, that's what we call a "turn-key system" -- I've done work for clients who offer ORM (online reputation management) and that's the phrase they use. This dizzying array of promo is ready to go and dirt fucking cheap, in terms of page-for-page costs.

The golf tournament, 911 alternative and real world stuff, however, is definitely beyond the scope of what you can buy off-shelf.


Appreciate the detailed example. Interesting that he's let the veil slip, though. None of the dummy sites are accessible any longer, and none of the SERPs for the recommended searches list them on the first page [if at all]. Googling "Mayo Shattuck 9/11" returns several sites on the first page dealing with just the material he'd rather you didn't see.
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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby bks » Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:27 pm

Joe Hillshoist wrote:

My first kid is due on sept 11th this year.


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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby 82_28 » Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:14 pm

It's all fucking production. I watched a couple football games the past few days and it just dawned on me in that existential sense that football (the game of it) is now meaningless. 9/11 is meaningless. But opening day of the NFL on September 11th, is "meaningful", except existentially they are both canceling one another out insofar as the mindspace, yet not. They are creating a small juggernaut of meaningless meaning by having NFL opening day fall on the anniversary of the meaning they (we?) are hoping to cancel out.

Believe it or not, it was big, it was huge, it was memory impressing, it was fucked the fuck up, but 9/11 was actually quite meaningless on the surface of it. The actual act, the whole charade and play of coverage that was most certainly being covered by many a reporter who was just as shocked and saddened as all us mofos, was, I maintain, and have for almost a decade, a plan hatched at the very least 15-30 years ago. Much study went into it.

So much study, that I say, and have a friend who agrees with me, that the very movie "Man on a Wire" proves that the twin towers were built to fall (a pre-documentary, if you will). The fingerprints, the meaninglessness of life, of society all point to this shit being designed for one point in time that Empire would once again warn us that they are in charge. The buildings were simultaneously built to show for a few decades that the empire is charge and then upon destruction the the empire is even more in charge. Empire knows you cannot resurrect what it builds and then decides to break in a strange occult spectacle meant to envelop the entire human populace of Earth. This is why it was rigged this way. I dunno what my time frames were last time I spouted my hair brained idiocy on this, but REST ASSURED, the people, the organizations, the brotherhoods who did this are AWARE, but on a perhaps anywhere from 50 to 1000 year awareness of what needs to be done in order to remain in control. Big span of time there in my "approximation", but that isn't the point I am making. It's that they indoctrinate humanity to think in spans of seconds, sometimes days, sometimes weeks whereas, they do not -- in what we call, the occult.

They gave us a great hint, I suppose, that the general population of their prison would figure out to some degree who was trapping them. They would not know when the plan to destroy the towers was hatched (probably upon construction) that there would be an "Internet" filled with curious souls, thinkers, investigators. They couldn't foresee a clear eyed approach, such as that of RI, for instance. The towers were meant to fall on the very day they broke ground in the very center of world finance. But the plan was a 50 year plan (probably at least).

Yet they knew, "WWIII" would now become inevitable, because people, no matter what would be powerless to defend themselves against the panopticon and technology that humans separate from one another on a great many matters do not see eye to eye on and do not share the same financial class backgrounds etc.

Freelance studying and hobby studying history, to me, has borne this out. Yellow is not yellow. Blue is not blue. Black is not black. White is not white. The scam has/was simply set in motion thousands of years ago and the scammers doing the leg work are not even aware. The Empire, my friends, never ended.

But, in my theorization, which may not mean shit to some, we've been trapped in thinking in seconds, minutes and weeks and not generations and bloodlines that go back centuries. High crimes (psy-ops) are committed over unnoticeable spans of time and for good reason. Shit wouldn't get done if shit was starting to get noticed by good human souls that only wanted to good. Doing good is a threat to Empire.

The Empire Never Ended. . .

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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby Saurian Tail » Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:30 pm

82_28 wrote:The scam has/was simply set in motion thousands of years ago and the scammers doing the leg work are not even aware. The Empire, my friends, never ended.

But, in my theorization, which may not mean shit to some, we've been trapped in thinking in seconds, minutes and weeks and not generations and bloodlines that go back centuries. High crimes (psy-ops) are committed over unnoticeable spans of time and for good reason. Shit wouldn't get done if shit was starting to get noticed by good human souls that only wanted to good. Doing good is a threat to Empire.

The Empire Never Ended. . .

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82_28,

If you have not read John Lamb Lash's Not In His Image: : Gnostic Vision, Sacred Ecology, and the Future of Belief, you should really pick up a copy. I think it would be right up your alley.

His premise is stunning:

The Demiurge of the Old Testament is an arrogant, demented pretender who claims that humans are "made in His image." The four words are the corporate motto of patriarchy. Branded on the human soul, "Made in His Image" signifies the total enslavement of humanity to an alien, off planet agenda. If Gnostics were right, the rise of salvationism was a unique mistake for our species, not a new moral revelation. Nothing serves the hidden controllers for cover better than a message of cosmic love. The fine print of the message carries a set of nested imperatives that are neither sane nor practicable: resist not evil, love your enemies, do good to those who harm you, turn the other cheek, accept abuse, forgive the perpetrator. These propositions are nested in the love message that encloses them with a sugary coating. The message of love is a ruse to endorse and foster the victim-perpetrator bond.

No matter how hard we try, we cannot derive a genuine message of love and goodness from divine paternalism. The source is just too corrupt. This is perhaps the hardest of all lessons that history can teach us.


This is one of the most hard hitting books I have ever read. Once the Roman empire got a hold of the virus, darkness descended on human history. The empire never ended.

Here is the description from the Amazon page for the book:

http://www.amazon.com/Not-His-Image-Gnostic-Ecology/dp/193149892X

Basing much of Not in His Image on the Nag Hammadi and other Gnostic writings, John Lamb Lash explains how a little-known messianic sect propelled itself into a dominant world power, systematically wiping out the great Gnostic spiritual teachers, the Druid priests, and the shamanistic healers of Europe and North Africa. They burned libraries and destroyed temples in an attempt to silence the ancient truth-tellers and keep their own secrets. But as Lash reveals, when the truth is the planet Earth it cannot be hidden or destroyed.

Not in His Image delves deeply into the shadows of ancient Gnostic writings to reconstruct the story early Christians tried to scrub from the pages of history, exploring the richness of the ancient European Pagan spirituality--the Pagan Mysteries, the Great Goddess, Gnosis, the myths of Sophia and Gaia--and chronicles the annihilation of this Pagan European culture at the hands of Christianity.

Long before the birth of Christianity, monotheism was an anomaly; Europe and the Near East flourished under the divine guidance of Sophia, the ancient goddess of wisdom. The Earth was the embodiment of Sophia and thus sacred to the people who sought fulfillment in her presence. This ancient philosophy was threatening to the emerging salvation-based creed of Christianity that was based on patriarchal dominion over the Earth and lauded personal suffering as a path to the afterlife. As Derrick Jensen points out in the afterword, in Lash's hands Jesus Christ emerges as the agent provocateur of the ruling classes.
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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby 8bitagent » Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:30 pm

kelley wrote:The relentless Irene panic underlines the coming anniversary. The past several days in new york city have been unbearable. Most people seem wiling to completely lose all vestige of reason given any opportunity to do so. A real crisis would easily tip this population into mass psychosis. It's frightening and utterly disheartening.



I agree. While it's very sad that a couple dozen people have died and a number of homes and businesses have been destroyed, Cat 1 Hurricane/Tropical Storms are nothing rare in a lot of the other half of America; yet the media is going into hyperdrive to paint this as right out of a Roland Emerich summer film on the upper East Coast. You're right though, if something *were* truly to hit the fan so to speak in a big city, even the most liberal sectors of society would be in total acquiesce mode.
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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby Nordic » Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:42 pm

Saurian tail, thanks for that, definitely gonna look into that.
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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby Nordic » Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:51 pm

8bitagent wrote:
kelley wrote:The relentless Irene panic underlines the coming anniversary. The past several days in new york city have been unbearable. Most people seem wiling to completely lose all vestige of reason given any opportunity to do so. A real crisis would easily tip this population into mass psychosis. It's frightening and utterly disheartening.



I agree. While it's very sad that a couple dozen people have died and a number of homes and businesses have been destroyed, Cat 1 Hurricane/Tropical Storms are nothing rare in a lot of the other half of America; yet the media is going into hyperdrive to paint this as right out of a Roland Emerich summer film on the upper East Coast. You're right though, if something *were* truly to hit the fan so to speak in a big city, even the most liberal sectors of society would be in total acquiesce mode.



This brings to mind something I saw tonight on the news. I refuse to watch mainstream "news" anymore, but I figured how can you possibly propagandize a natural weather event? And my stepdaughter is stuck in nyc and I wanted to see whatever I could of that, so I watched the CBS evening news tonight.

But there was a section about how Bloomberg shut the city down so early and so thoroughly, and the message was "better safe than sorry" - even if it was overkill.

Then there was a bit on how the new terrorism task forces that the police have set up really did the trick, and how wonderful and prepared everything was because of all the terrorism fears and planning.

The message: in case of disaster, trust the authorities and do what they say!
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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby 8bitagent » Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:56 pm

82_28 wrote:It's all fucking production. I watched a couple football games the past few days and it just dawned on me in that existential sense that football (the game of it) is now meaningless. 9/11 is meaningless. But opening day of the NFL on September 11th, is "meaningful", except existentially they are both canceling one another out insofar as the mindspace, yet not. They are creating a small juggernaut of meaningless meaning by having NFL opening day fall on the anniversary of the meaning they (we?) are hoping to cancel out.

Believe it or not, it was big, it was huge, it was memory impressing, it was fucked the fuck up, but 9/11 was actually quite meaningless on the surface of it. The actual act, the whole charade and play of coverage that was most certainly being covered by many a reporter who was just as shocked and saddened as all us mofos, was, I maintain, and have for almost a decade, a plan hatched at the very least 15-30 years ago. Much study went into it.

So much study, that I say, and have a friend who agrees with me, that the very movie "Man on a Wire" proves that the twin towers were built to fall (a pre-documentary, if you will). The fingerprints, the meaninglessness of life, of society all point to this shit being designed for one point in time that Empire would once again warn us that they are in charge. The buildings were simultaneously built to show for a few decades that the empire is charge and then upon destruction the the empire is even more in charge. Empire knows you cannot resurrect what it builds and then decides to break in a strange occult spectacle meant to envelop the entire human populace of Earth. This is why it was rigged this way. I dunno what my time frames were last time I spouted my hair brained idiocy on this, but REST ASSURED, the people, the organizations, the brotherhoods who did this are AWARE, but on a perhaps anywhere from 50 to 1000 year awareness of what needs to be done in order to remain in control. Big span of time there in my "approximation", but that isn't the point I am making. It's that they indoctrinate humanity to think in spans of seconds, sometimes days, sometimes weeks whereas, they do not -- in what we call, the occult.

They gave us a great hint, I suppose, that the general population of their prison would figure out to some degree who was trapping them. They would not know when the plan to destroy the towers was hatched (probably upon construction) that there would be an "Internet" filled with curious souls, thinkers, investigators. They couldn't foresee a clear eyed approach, such as that of RI, for instance. The towers were meant to fall on the very day they broke ground in the very center of world finance. But the plan was a 50 year plan (probably at least).

Yet they knew, "WWIII" would now become inevitable, because people, no matter what would be powerless to defend themselves against the panopticon and technology that humans separate from one another on a great many matters do not see eye to eye on and do not share the same financial class backgrounds etc.

Freelance studying and hobby studying history, to me, has borne this out. Yellow is not yellow. Blue is not blue. Black is not black. White is not white. The scam has/was simply set in motion thousands of years ago and the scammers doing the leg work are not even aware. The Empire, my friends, never ended.

But, in my theorization, which may not mean shit to some, we've been trapped in thinking in seconds, minutes and weeks and not generations and bloodlines that go back centuries. High crimes (psy-ops) are committed over unnoticeable spans of time and for good reason. Shit wouldn't get done if shit was starting to get noticed by good human souls that only wanted to good. Doing good is a threat to Empire.

The Empire Never Ended. . .

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Exactly. They/It/??? is patient as hell. Yet people are being forced to evolve into very IMPATIENT beings with instant this, instant that...ADHD fragmentation and compartmentalization. Our language has been condensed to tweeted haikus and LULzy Facebook posts. We're the star of our own reality show bubble, so anything on the periphery is meaningless. Who even hand writes letters anymore? Less and less people even call others, relying instead on broken up texts.

Seeing the documentary Man On Wire really blew my mind, as it really showed the sheer power of will. All the sudden I realized, if you want a conspiracy to go without a hitch you just need men "overcome" by something. I remember doing some research a few years ago on the literal construction of the WTC, and was surprised to find(not not truly surprised) the Saudi bin Laden group deeply connected to it.
http://www.slate.com/id/2060207/ You look at the look of it, the feel...I have no doubt as to what you posit man. Those towers were built to come down. Maybe there was some "super duper secret nano spray on thermite on the columns" to accelerate the fire damage after impact. Or maybe "it" knew where to strike the towers...hell, Flight 175 almost looks like it's correcting itself last minute. A lot of weird spooky shit all over the map that day(why did ATC's report the transponders all mysteriously turned back on seconds before impact?)

From an occult perspective, it makes sense they would use real planes with real passengers and really hitting the buildings(especially the Pentagon) The coincidence of Crowleyan prime numbers being the four flights a century after he "channeled" them is too much for syncs. Of course they got greedy...not satisfied with bringing down Jakim and Boaz and striking the heart of Pentagram Oz 77, they had to push past Vessey, Church, Malkuth and Kether to go straight into the abyss of DC itself(Pentagram/gon is in Arlington) with the oomphalos Capital building with Current 93. I almost think the passengers did fuck up the plans rather than some planned conspiracy, thus slightly altering the ritual. God knows what woulda happened if 93 HAD struck...though to attentive ATC FAA and NORAD controllers...the phantom Flight 93 blip kept on going toward DC.

Good ol' 77. Be it the atomic bomb of Japan, days til Obama became #44, the Pentagon feet and flight, or Breivik's victims...77 is the all too familiar calling card of the black lodge crimes.
Remember America's financial 9/11 in 2008? -777.

The ten year yarn has been completed. 9/11 -- mass shared egregoric trauma -- endless war --- rise of Obama --- death of Osama on May Day. It'd be almost poetic if it wasn't so damn obvious and sinister.

STILL...I am not sure if the plan is going well, or what's going on. Life just seems in a techno gadgety youtube fog in Western society...waiting for the next 4chan meme and cat video.
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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby 8bitagent » Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:01 am

Saurian Tail wrote:
His premise is stunning:

The Demiurge of the Old Testament is an arrogant, demented pretender who claims that humans are "made in His image." The four words are the corporate motto of patriarchy. Branded on the human soul, "Made in His Image" signifies the total enslavement of humanity to an alien, off planet agenda. If Gnostics were right, the rise of salvationism was a unique mistake for our species, not a new moral revelation. Nothing serves the hidden controllers for cover better than a message of cosmic love. The fine print of the message carries a set of nested imperatives that are neither sane nor practicable: resist not evil, love your enemies, do good to those who harm you, turn the other cheek, accept abuse, forgive the perpetrator. These propositions are nested in the love message that encloses them with a sugary coating. The message of love is a ruse to endorse and foster the victim-perpetrator bond.

No matter how hard we try, we cannot derive a genuine message of love and goodness from divine paternalism. The source is just too corrupt. This is perhaps the hardest of all lessons that history can teach us.


This is one of the most hard hitting books I have ever read. Once the Roman empire got a hold of the virus, darkness descended on human history. The empire never ended.

Here is the description from the Amazon page for the book:


That sounds like an amazing and profoundly changing read.

I began to wonder if perhaps the Abrahamic faiths themselves are part of the esoteric deception...good cop/bad cop, Job being an Inside Job. Though it's not my place to say, I never found these faiths all too positive or holy...though I will say I think perhaps the 'real truth' is that people have to find their own truths whatever it may be.
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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby 8bitagent » Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:06 am

I clicked on the Nat Geo link, and all the documentary specials either recently or about to air are TOTAL pro government propanda.
Saddam is evil(Iraq justified), NYC working really well with intelligence agencies(seriously, it's the first link, about 90 minutes), documentary on the UK Liquid terror plot, one on the anthrax, etc.
Its like Murdoch is going full bore into propaganda

Remember when Nat Geo was a magazine for education? I never thought it'd be used to carry out the most in your face propaganda.
And all the NYC preparedness reinforces the "we were unprepared" response you always hear following major devastating events in other events it feels like.
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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby 82_28 » Mon Aug 29, 2011 1:27 am

Does anybody know what stood at the WTC before the towers and before that and before that etc? That's one of my most favorite things to to here in Seattle. With all the regrading, Seattle has changed soo so so surprisingly much! Shit I would not have ever imagined were it not for really super duper delving into it and crosschecking as much as I can. I'm not just talking about the Denny Regrade either, I am talking just region wide regrading as the tycoons were building this city.

But what was at, what was perhaps the native American meaning, settlement of/at that spot? We need to know this and we also need to know the narrative as things began to change into what was before the the proud twin towers and on into their destruction.

Bruce, hope you're well, but you are well situated to answer this. Beware though, history sucks you in!
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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby 8bitagent » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:01 am

82_28 wrote:Does anybody know what stood at the WTC before the towers and before that and before that etc? That's one of my most favorite things to to here in Seattle. With all the regrading, Seattle has changed soo so so surprisingly much! Shit I would not have ever imagined were it not for really super duper delving into it and crosschecking as much as I can. I'm not just talking about the Denny Regrade either, I am talking just region wide regrading as the tycoons were building this city.

But what was at, what was perhaps the native American meaning, settlement of/at that spot? We need to know this and we also need to know the narrative as things began to change into what was before the the proud twin towers and on into their destruction.

Bruce, hope you're well, but you are well situated to answer this. Beware though, history sucks you in!


I always wondered that too...some sort of ley line I imagine? :) Strangely I'm not able to quickly google any results of "pre port authority wtc site"
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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby 82_28 » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:39 am

My back of the bullshit napkin guess was that it was a "lookout" a place people simply went to view the nature around them and commune with the nature of that time in that area, such as Ellis Island. Clearly, there was no electricity, no TV and no radio -- let alone daily periodicals. It was a pristine place destroyed to eventually become known what we know now as Manhattan.

The name Manhattan derives from the word Manna-hata, as written in the 1609 logbook of Robert Juet, an officer on Henry Hudson's yacht Halve Maen (Half Moon).[18] A 1610 map depicts the name as Manna-hata, twice, on both the west and east sides of the Mauritius River (later named the Hudson River). The word "Manhattan" has been translated as "island of many hills" from the Lenape language.[19]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan

What happened to the Lenape?
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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby 82_28 » Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:04 am

And then, (I think off the cuff!) the Empire STATE building is what remains. As the sole tallest building in NY. We must also look into the location Empire State and it's odd past of also getting crashed into. . .

Ugh. But there is something embedded in there for at least going to death knowing that we figured it out. . .

Gah, I gotta think about this more and do more research. It's just so goddamned limited, the time is short and absolutely no way to reliably broadcast shit in order for shit to get researched better and open-sourcedly.
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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby 8bitagent » Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:14 am

82_28 wrote:And then, (I think off the cuff!) the Empire STATE building is what remains. As the sole tallest building in NY. We must also look into the location Empire State and it's odd past of also getting crashed into. . .

Ugh. But there is something embedded in there for at least going to death knowing that we figured it out. . .

Gah, I gotta think about this more and do more research. It's just so goddamned limited, the time is short and absolutely no way to reliably broadcast shit in order for shit to get researched better and open-sourcedly.



I hear ya...I am long fatigued. As far as research, my days of 9/11 "truth" research pretty much ended in 2007 when I saw Jake Kotze videos on youtube. Sept 11th seems more like an abstract performance art piece or the punchline to a really nasty version of The Aristocrats at this point.

This has always been a wonderfully mysterious building to me aesthetically...

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