bks wrote:Joe Hillshoist wrote:
My first kid is due on sept 11th this year.
All the best! It's a trip every day
Cheers
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by Joe Hillshoist » Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:57 am
bks wrote:Joe Hillshoist wrote:
My first kid is due on sept 11th this year.
All the best! It's a trip every day
by Elihu » Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:41 am
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by Nordic » Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:22 pm
Ed is nearly 50 now, and he's spending the 10th anniversary of the tragedy with his wife and their 4-year-old son, Connor. He's also organizing a memorial on Row2k.com.
And someday, when Connor is old enough, Ed may take his son to the place where he sat alone in the ocean and watched the world change.
While any single educational lesson from Sept. 11 is difficult to pinpoint, headmaster Harmon thinks Poly Prep's response has become a powerful school tradition and fits with their mission.
"Our aim is to prepare students for a better world," Harmon says.
by 82_28 » Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:34 pm
Isn't that the key phrase? "The world changed". Our freedom is over, democracy is dead, the surveillance state is here, all because of 9/11. AND THAT'S OKAY.
by Joe Hillshoist » Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:17 pm
by 8bitagent » Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:26 pm
82_28 wrote:Isn't that the key phrase? "The world changed". Our freedom is over, democracy is dead, the surveillance state is here, all because of 9/11. AND THAT'S OKAY.
And yet, nothing changed at all. The "change" was in the tech. My running theory is is that fashions didn't change in all this time due to "bandwidth limitations" of human faculties and that so much investment had been thrown into tech that was about to change was not style of the body, but style of the psyche. Soon after 9/11 bluetooth began to catch on and people began to run around and never take their bluetooth headsets off. "Smartphones" began to catch on. And lest we forget the "timeless" Apple brand took off with the i-pod on into of course i-phone and now i-pad. Life stood still, what we knew of it and progress was made on shoring up the freedom/liberty/justice aspect of what a free people think. After 9/11 people embraced invasive technology like never before. Freedom began to become increasingly emulated and not lived.
We "embraced" now, via corporate effort and marketing, "greenness" as well as fake ass wars (peace and war at the same time). We became red states and blue states. Whereas before, those who embraced their philosophy, their hearts, believed it. Now it has become lingo, metaphor, marketing-speak, trash, death, hopelessness and yet the show goes on. Now it is simply bought at a great complex cost to natural human behavior but at great benefit to the empire that never ended.
They took what was real and turned it in on itself just as they did with what we call "the right" and systematically did it to "the left", all via marketing and the science of marketing, which a great many geniuses work on night and day. Hence our Obama.
It's all utter bullshit. It's simply how people think. It's all algorithms. It's all understandable, completely documented and it is well known that human behavior scales to the size of the lies.
by Joe Hillshoist » Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:15 pm
8bitagent wrote:We're now in one giant Autotuned Lolcats Dubstep Meme freefall.
At this point, I say the best 9/11 "truth" is to spread the message to TUNE IT OUT. Reject and tune out, and cover your ears at the words "9/11", "osama", "bin Laden", "al Qaeda", "terrorism", "war on terror", "Afghanistan", "drone strike", etc. Turn off the tv if you hear those words, tell people to shut up if they mention those words. Zip it.
Why? I've come to realize all these words were chosen as magick spell cues in a way, trigger words to keep the mind dumbed down(like when I was on my major aspartame fix)
Obama, Osama...it's all part of the meme-gineering programming. Nine eleven, repeat after me. 9-1-1 emergency, 9/11.
Even parapolitickers/conspiracy theorists can't fully see it, or appreciate it. It's been staring us in the face the whole time with obvious obviousness.
All these symbols, words, targets, etc were chosen and woven long ago by the black wizards...but uh, I guess its comforting to believe post trotskyite oil men in suits or scary muslims in caves
are the be all end all of these sorts of events.
***side note: You're right about everything being simulated, steamvalved, emulated.
The one thing I agree with Alex Jones and right wingers about climate change theories is that a lot of the eco green stuff is total fake corporate stuff to make people feel good. All controlled opposition.
Now war is sold as "humanitarian". al Qaeda is bad in Pakistan, good in Libya and Iran. Up is down, beige is kittens.
by Laodicean » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:03 am
Cheney, Rumsfeld and the Dark Art of Propaganda
by Amy Goodman
“When one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it,” wrote Joseph Goebbels, Germany’s Reich minister of propaganda, in 1941. Former Vice President Dick Cheney seems to have taken the famous Nazi’s advice in his new book, “In My Time.” Cheney remains staunch in his convictions on issues from the invasion of Iraq to the use of torture. Telling NBC News in an interview that “there are gonna be heads exploding all over Washington” as a result of the revelations in the book, Cheney’s memoir follows one by his colleague and friend Donald Rumsfeld. As each promotes his own version of history, there are people challenging and confronting them.
Rumsfeld’s book title, “Known and Unknown,” is drawn from a notorious response he gave in one of his Pentagon press briefings as secretary of defense. In Feb. 12, 2002, attempting to explain the lack of evidence linking Iraq to weapons of mass destruction, Rumsfeld said: “[T]here are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don’t know we don’t know.”
Rumsfeld’s cryptic statement gained fame, emblematic of his disdain for reporters. It stands as a symbol of the lies and manipulations that propelled the U.S. into the disastrous invasion and occupation of Iraq.
One person convinced by Rumsfeld’s rhetoric was Jared August Hagemann.
Hagemann enlisted in the Army to serve his country, to confront the threats repeated by Defense Secretary Rumsfeld. When the U.S. Army Ranger received the call for his most recent deployment (his wife can’t recall if it was his seventh or eighth), the pressure became too much. On June 28, 2011, 25-year-old Hagemann shot himself on the Joint Base Lewis-McChord, near Seattle. The Pentagon notes that Hagemann died of a “self-inflicted” gunshot wound, but has not yet called it a suicide.
Hagemann had threatened suicide several times before. He was not alone. Five soldiers reportedly committed suicide at Fort Lewis in July. It has been estimated that more than 300,000 returning troops suffer from PTSD or depression.
Hagemann’s widow, Ashley Joppa-Hagemann, found out that Rumsfeld was doing a book signing on the base. On Friday, Aug. 26, she handed Rumsfeld a copy of the program from her late husband’s memorial service. She recounted, “I told him that I wanted him to see my husband, and so he would know—he could put a face with at least one of the soldiers that had lost their lives because of his lies from 9/11.”
I asked her about Rumsfeld’s response: “All I remember is him saying, ‘Oh, I heard about that.’ And after that, all I remember is being bombarded with security personnel and being pushed out and told not to return.” Unfortunately, it’s Staff Sgt. Hagemann who will never return to his wife and two little children.
In his NBC interview, Cheney claimed to have played a role in the January 2005 resignation of then-Secretary of State Colin Powell. Powell’s former chief of staff, Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, called the claim “utter nonsense.” More important, though, is Wilkerson’s unflinching call for accountability for those involved in leading the nation to war in Iraq—including punishment for himself. A central pillar of the invasion of Iraq was Powell’s Feb. 5, 2003, speech before the United Nations, which laid out the case of weapons of mass destruction. Wilkerson, who takes full responsibility for coordinating Powell’s address, told me: “It was probably the biggest mistake of my life. I regret it to this day. I regret not having resigned over it.”
The Center for Constitutional Rights and lawyer/blogger Glenn Greenwald are among those who have long called for criminal prosecution of Cheney, Rumsfeld and other Bush administration officials. Said Wilkerson, “I’d be willing to testify, and I’d be willing to take any punishment I’m due.”
Wilkerson says Cheney’s book is “written out of fear, fear that one day someone will ‘Pinochet’ Dick Cheney,” referring to the former Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet, who was arrested in Britain and held for a year before being released. A Spanish judge had wanted him extradited to be tried for crimes against humanity.
As we approach the 10th anniversary of 9/11, and the casualties mount on all sides, the books by Rumsfeld and Cheney remind us once again of war’s first casualty: truth.
by Bruce Dazzling » Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:26 pm
by 8bitagent » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:49 pm
by kelley » Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:49 am
by Wombaticus Rex » Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:58 am
Google has done something that might even be more destructive of the middle class, which is they've said, "Well, since Moore's law makes computation really cheap, let's just give away the computation, but keep the data." And that's a disaster.
... If we enter into the kind of world that Google likes, the world that Google wants, it's a world where information is copied so much on the Internet that nobody knows where it came from anymore, so there can't be any rights of authorship. However, you need a big search engine to even figure out what it is or find it. They want a lot of chaos that they can have an ability to undo. ... when you have copying on a network, you throw out information because you lose the provenance, and then you need a search engine to figure it out again. That's part of why Google can exist. Ah, the perversity of it all just gets to me.
... What Wal-Mart recognized is that information is power, and by using network information, you could consolidate extraordinary power, and so have information about what could be made where, when, what could be moved where, when, who would buy what, when for how much? By coalescing all of that, and reducing the unknowns, they were able to globalize their point of view so they were no longer a local player, but they essentially became their own market, and that's what information can do. The use of networks can turn you from a local player in a larger system into your own global system.
... The reason this breaks is that there's a local-global flip that happens. When you start to use an information network to concentrate information and therefore power, you benefit from a first arrival effect, and from some other common network effects that make it very hard for other people to come and grab your position. And this gets a little detailed, but it was very hard for somebody else to copy Wal-Mart once Wal-Mart had gathered all the information, because once they have the whole world aligned by the information in their server, they created essentially an expense or a risk for anybody to jump out of that system. That was very hard. ... In a similar way, once you are a customer of Google's ad network, the moment that you stop bidding for your keyword, you're guaranteeing that your closest competitor will get it. It's no longer just, "Well, I don't know if I want this slot in the abstract, and who knows if a competitor or some entirely unrelated party will get it." Instead, you have to hold on to your ground because suddenly every decision becomes strategic for you, and immediately. It creates a new kind of glue, or a new kind of stickiness.
... It can become such a bizarre system. What you have now is a system in which the Internet user becomes the product that is being sold to others, and what the product is, is the ability to be manipulated. It's an anti-liberty system, and I know that the rhetoric around it is very contrary to that.
by Bruce Dazzling » Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:53 am
kelley wrote:The refrain of "Never Forget" functions not as an act of remembrance, but as an obstacle to understanding the present through a detailed examination of the recent past.
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