'Nevermind' Is The Most Important Rock Album of All Time

[Bruce Dazzling]

Curt was a world class songwriter, mostly obscured by heavy production, but on top of that, he had one of the most charismatic voices this side of Lennon (who, along with the Beatles are FAR MORE IMPORTANT than Nirvana in general, and Nevermind in particular).

The unplugged concert showcased the songwriting in ways that the album versions never came close to, and his voice at the end of the Leadbelly cover "Tell Me Where Did You Sleep Last Night" is fucking heart-rending.



But again, NOT the most important rock album of all time.

As for this...

The movie "Curt and Courtney' makes a convincing case he was murdered by his wife.

...it's covered in the "Suicides and "accidents" thread.

"Suicides and "accidents".

[Mikey]

Nah just a prettier re run of the of Melvins....that sounds really harsh, i like Nirvana but Melvins....man Kurt knew what they were about

[82_28]

I'm not saying Nirvana doesn't have its place in rock history, but you wanna know my first question the first time I heard Smells Like Teen Spirit in like 10th grade?

Is this a cover of Louie Louie? And then it got hella overplayed and the song and band came into its own. I probably like Nirvana more now, going on some 20 years later as a 30something than I did as a kid. I was into funk, soul and political punk at that time.

But, no, not the most important rock album of all time. Absolutely not. If anything, it was the final rock album and then the good lord gave us this "emo" shit or whatever its called.

If anything, the very iconic video for SLTS was the harbinger of the end of irony as it was essentially the first existentially ironic video ever produced -- at least to gain such timeless popularity. Like a serious Weird Al video -- like the era of serious movies like Fast Times at Ridgemont High are over. It said, upon viewing again, just now, after many years, that the free for all 80s are now dead and this is what it is now. Soon thereafter, MTV began deleting its music content and the race was on to the era of un-ironic reality TV. And here we are. Everybody wants to be in a Nirvana like band and yet not be like Nirvana.

[compared2what?]

Have no fear. Also, please don't hurt me. (Please?) I just stopped by to search for a link that I couldn't refind. But as long as I'm in the neighborhood -- Hey, 82_28!

I'm not saying Nirvana doesn't have its place in rock history, but you wanna know my first question the first time I heard Smells Like Teen Spirit in like 10th grade?

Is this a cover of Louie Louie?

I second your reaction!

Also....IIRC, Mr. Cobain himself acknowledged that very similarity, as well as this one:



A great pop song is nothing to be ashamed of, however. So honi soit qui mal y pense, if you ask me, personally. But there's no arguing about taste, I totally concede.

This article was written by Julianne Shepherd, who once asserted in print that Henry Rollins was a member of The Knitters.

She`s displaying her mastery of Wikipedia here.

It's not very impressive, though, even on those terms. F'r instance...

Not the White Album. Not Gimme Shelter. Not Are You Experienced. Not even The Fabulous Little Richard. Those albums are all canonical, and surely there are other very important records in the history of rock 'n' roll that are contenders.

Gimme Shelter is not an album, it's a movie. I just don't know, Annie, I'm telling you. Kids today, and all that.
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[kenoma]

Meh. Either way, 1992 was the year in which what counted as the 'greatest rock album' became the concern of a minority:

[norton ash]

Rare girl with bird sighting.

[jingofever]

Meh. Either way, 1992 was the year in which what counted as the 'greatest rock album' became the concern of a minority:

Not really. U.S. sales of The Chronic are 4.2 million. U.S. sales of Nevermind are 11.5 million. Here is a chart with 2007 and 2006 data showing that rock is the biggest seller. But in the years in question, 1991 and 1992, the top selling albums in the United States were from Garth Brooks and Billy Ray Cyrus.

[kenoma]

Meh. Either way, 1992 was the year in which what counted as the 'greatest rock album' became the concern of a minority:

Not really. U.S. sales of The Chronic are 4.2 million. U.S. sales of Nevermind are 11.5 million. Here is a chart with 2007 and 2006 data showing that rock is the biggest seller. But in the years in question, 1991 and 1992, the top selling albums in the United States were from Garth Brooks and Billy Ray Cyrus.

But don't those statistics really reflect the distance between direct sales and cultural significance? For good and ill, I hear more Chronic than Nevermind in contemporary culture. I maintain it was objectively a more significant album, no matter the sales.

[waugs]

Maybe the most Overrated Rock Album of All Time, but hardly the most important.

Kurt Cobain is revered because he killed himself. Mediocre songwriter, IMO.

[justdrew]

string quartet version


Anyway, if he died in April '94, then... I'm missing a year between there and '97 I think... odd...
I would have bet $100 it was April '95 when he died.

[marycarnival]

I loved 'Nevermind' when it first came out...heard 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' on KBOO three weeks before the album was released, and my 15 year old mind was blown away. And mind you, I already owned and loved 'Bleach'. But yeah, then all the jocks and stupid fashion plate girls in my school all decided that Nirvana was cool, and the songs got overplayed, and the whole 'I'm a weirdo and this band speaks to me' thing got diluted then ruined. I agree with 82 that 'Nevermind' may be the last real rock album, but the most important? Who can say that, really? Just a matter of opinion to me...

But anyhoo, yeah, that Julianne Shepard person used to write for a local weekly here called The Mercury. I used to read her articles just for the laugh factor, ie, she is such an idiot that it's funny. She doesn't have a clue. And I hate to break it to some of you out there, but I seem to remember her claiming to be a huge Rush fan...Sorry Rush fans.

[seemslikeadream]

[DoYouEverWonder]

no love? ...

Too bad the little brat who wrote the article has no clue about music history.

[justdrew]

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=426573#p426573

[ShinShinKid]

I loved tuning people in to the new Seattle sound....
By Nevermind, the band was already old...I was really into Social Distortion at the time...