Martha Marcy May Marlene

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Martha Marcy May Marlene

Postby Project Willow » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:20 pm

From Variety...

Martha Marcy May Marlene
By Peter Debruge
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A young woman looking for somewhere to belong finds it difficult to readjust to society after escaping life with a cult in "Martha Marcy May Marlene," a sensitive treatment of a sensational subject that heralds the arrival of talented tyro Sean Durkin behind the camera and promising new star Elizabeth Olsen. Picking up as its heroine breaks free and then using uneasy flashbacks to suggest the character's lingering paranoia, Durkin's effective yet frustratingly obtuse feature debut -- a sister project to his short "Mary Last Seen" -- invites contemplation while withholding the narrative drive needed to break out beyond, yes, cult status.

The tongue-twisting title alone demonstrates Durkin's conscious decision to resist a more commercial approach to the subject -- an artistic attitude likely to win him points with critics, whose support will be essential for this thought-provoking psychological study to find a following. Perhaps the most refreshing break from convention is Durkin's choice to foreground female characters and emotions, starting with Martha (Olsen), whom we meet among her virtual sisters on a seemingly idyllic commune in the Catskills.

Emphasizing observation over traditional exposition, the film opens with a series of tableaus beautiful enough to be paintings. These carefully composed scenes establish that the women, radiant despite their dowdy homemade dresses and lack of makeup, outnumber the men in the overlarge farmhouse, where they must wait their turn to eat and sleep like stray cats in a room crowded with mattresses.

The film is blessed with such a great location -- an isolated white farmhouse surrounded by lush green fields and trees (the same one used in Durkin's earlier short, which serves as a sinister prologue to "Martha") -- that Durkin must work to undermine the retreat's Walden-esque potential, which he does by building tension through subtle body language and an ominous, hollow wind noise on the soundtrack.

One morning, without warning, Martha runs away and calls her older sister Lucy (Sarah Paulson), who hasn't heard from her in two years. At this point, neither Lucy nor the audience understand what exactly she is rescuing Martha from, and yet, without asking questions, she welcomes her emotionally damaged younger sister into the Connecticut lake house she shares with her Ken-doll husband, Ted (Hugh Dancy). Though Durkin allows these scenes to wallow in a sort of lazy-Sunday apathy, with Martha behaving in socially inappropriate ways (such as creeping into Ted and Lucy's room and curling up beside them during sex), he punctuates her secretive recovery with glimpses of what she experienced with the cult.
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http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117944343/


Another review:
http://www.slashfilm.com/martha-marcy-may-marlene-review/
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Re: Martha Marcy May Marlene

Postby Project Willow » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:22 pm

This was posted on Jun 24. I guess when you press "bump" it changes the date.

I don't like that.
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Re: Martha Marcy May Marlene

Postby norton ash » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:53 pm

Thanks, Willow. The New Yorker review is linked below, and a lot of other buzz is saying that it's good. And Elizabeth Olsen is the younger sister of the Olsen twins, creepily enough.

http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/c ... ntPage=all
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Re: Martha Marcy May Marlene

Postby psynapz » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:11 pm

norton ash wrote:And Elizabeth Olsen is the younger sister of the Olsen twins, creepily enough.

Well then, this film just officially hit the multi-contextual holographic spooky-reference echo chamber. Here we go again.
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Re: Martha Marcy May Marlene

Postby Project Willow » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:33 pm

Enjoyable New Yorker review, an exploration of the predator-prey embrace.

I remember the title caught my eye for DIDiva but then I posted it here instead.

Has anyone seen it?
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Re: Martha Marcy May Marlene

Postby norton ash » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:54 pm

Haven't seen it, I'm in the boondocks. Might have a chance in Winnipeg or TO next month.

Winter's Bone was very good, it's stayed with me.
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Re: Martha Marcy May Marlene

Postby IanEye » Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:22 pm

Project Willow wrote:This was posted on Jun 24. I guess when you press "bump" it changes the date.

I don't like that.


Eye don't like it either.

Can the Mods explain that?

I bump my own threads all the time, and they don't change the initial date of the posting.

Awry, methinks....
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Re: Martha Marcy May Marlene

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:13 am

So I just "bumped" a thread of mine. If you're the original author, there's an option on the top -- just above the actual first message -- it's the last option on the left hand side (that starts with "Subscribe Topic | Bookmark Topic"). It was hard to find and I never noticed it before, either.

Unfortunately, changing the date is the whole point of the button, near as I can tell that's not a setting we can change in phpBB -- that's the feature itself. I usually "bump" topics just by adding a new post, myself.

Hopefully that explains things.
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Re: Martha Marcy May Marlene

Postby Project Willow » Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:38 am

I do too Wombat, and I also had not seen the bump button until tonight.
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Re: Martha Marcy May Marlene

Postby Jeff » Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:57 am

Project Willow wrote:I do too Wombat, and I also had not seen the bump button until tonight.


Geez, the things ya learn on this board.

Never noticed it myself.

On edit: Though actually, I still don't see it. On my OP threads I see only "Subscribe topic | Bookmark topic | Print view | E-mail friend"

But enough of this distraction for this thread. Back to the topic.
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Re: Martha Marcy May Marlene

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:09 am

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Maybe the topics Jeff and 'cuda are checking were too recent? Not sure how it works...not very interested either!
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Re: Martha Marcy May Marlene

Postby Jeff » Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:14 am

Wombaticus Rex wrote:Maybe the topics Jeff and 'cuda are checking were too recent? Not sure how it works...not very interested either!


Right, that's it! I went back several pages and there it was. Thanks, WR.

Okay, now we can close the book on the bump.
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Re: Martha Marcy May Marlene

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:36 am

I think this movie was designed to be anti-Kennedy just before the Nov. 22 anniversary of JFK's murder.

The names of the lead male characters, "Patrick, Ted," plus the theme of rape and the title ("Martha" as in Vineyard > MaryJo as in Kopechne) point in this direction.
But Jeff disallows this analysis of psyops mnemonic marketing strategy so I'll put it in my own thread.


Patrick Kennedy rape - Google Search

1. Kennedy v. Louisiana - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Patrick O. Kennedy, a man from suburban New Orleans, Louisiana, was sentenced to death after being convicted of raping his eight-year-old stepdaughter. ..."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennedy_v._Louisiana
2. William Kennedy Smith - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"In 1991, Smith was tried and acquitted on a charge of rape, ..."
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3. Rape a child, pay with your life, Louisiana argues - CNN
"15 Apr 2008 ... Patrick Kennedy, 43, is on Louisiana's death row for the rape of his ... state of Louisiana is determined to execute Patrick Kennedy for his crime. ..."
articles.cnn.com/2008-04-15/justice/rape.execution_1_penalty-for-violent-crimes-billy-sothern-louisiana-prosecutors?_s=PM:CRIME
4. Patrick Kennedy Awaits Lethal Injection For Raping A Child ...
"16 Apr 2008 ... Patrick Kennedy raped his 8-year-old stepdaughter. He is the only person of the 3300 in the United States awaiting the executor for a crime ..."
timeinmoments.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/patrick-kennedy-awaits-lethal-injection-for-raping-a-child/
5. KENNEDY V. LOUISIANA, No. 07-343 | Death Penalty Information ...
"Patrick Kennedy was convicted and sentenced to death in 2004 for the rape of his 8-year-old stepdaughter. That judgment was affirmed by the Louisiana ..."
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6. Death Penalty for Offenses Other Than Murder | Death Penalty ...
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7. Child Rapist Patrick Kennedy : Investigation Discovery
"16 Apr 2008 ... Patrick O. Kennedy, 43, is one of two people facing execution in the United ... Court to Hear Arguments in Patrick Kennedy Child Rape Case ..."
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8. Patrick Kennedy « Stolen Boy's Weblog
"12 Jan 2008 ... Kennedy was convicted in 2003 for the rape of his stepdaughter at their ... Patrick Kennedy is definitely necessary to deserve the death penalty. ..."
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9. 05KA1981 STATE OF LOUISIANA v. PATRICK KENNEDY
"2005-KA-1981. STATE OF LOUISIANA v. PATRICK KENNEDY (Parish of Jefferson). (Aggravated Rape; Victim Under the Age of 12)). For the reasons assigned ..."
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10. William Kennedy Smith and the numerous rape allegations -- Crime ...
"William Kennedy Smith has kept a very low profile since he was acquitted in the 1991 Palm Beach County, Florida, rape trial. Now he is faced with additional ..."
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11. May 7, 2007 | The Nation
"Billy Sothern, member of the legal team that represented Patrick Kennedy, convicted of child rape, in a landmark Supreme Court death penalty decision this ..."
www.thenation.com/issue/may-7-2007
12. Kennedy v. Louisiana : SCOTUSblog
"Louisiana · Court to rule on death penalty for child rape · State defends death ... Brief for Petitioner Patrick Kennedy · Brief for Respondent State of Louisiana ..."
www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/ken ... louisiana/
13. Does Patrick Kennedy needs to die for rape of a child? - Yahoo ...
"I'll sign off on it."
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14. Kennedy v. Louisiana (07-343) | LII / Legal Information Institute
"A Louisiana jury found Patrick Kennedy guilty of aggravated rape of his eight- year-old stepdaughter under Louisiana's aggravated rape statute. This statute ..."
www.law.cornell.edu/supct/cert/07-343
15. ______ PATRICK KENNEDY, Petitioner, v. LOUISIANA ...
"rape since 1957. Of the three thousand three hundred and sixty six (3366) inmates who are presently on Death Row in the United States, Patrick Kennedy is the ..."
www.thejusticecenter.org/cap/pdfs/JAfinal.pdf
16. Death Penalty for Child Rape? - ABC News
"16 Apr 2008 ... In 1998, Patrick O. Kennedy called 911 to report that his 8-year-old stepdaughter had just been raped. Kennedy blamed two boys from his ..."
abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/SCOTUS/story?id=4650696&page=1
17. Sentencing Law and Policy: Kennedy child rape case
"July 15, 2011 in Death Penalty Reforms, Kennedy child rape case, Sex Offender ..... the new brief filed for inmate Patrick Kennedy said in the case of Kennedy v. ..."
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18. Child rapists can't be executed, Supreme Court rules - CNN
"25 Jun 2008 ... Patrick Kennedy, 43, was on Louisiana's death row after being convicted of raping his 8-year-old stepdaughter. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled ..."
articles.cnn.com/2008-06-25/justice/scotus.child.rape_1_child-rapists-capital-punishment-patrick-kennedy?_s=PM:CRIME
19. Kennedy v. Louisiana | The Oyez Project at IIT Chicago-Kent ...
"A Louisiana court found Patrick Kennedy guilty of raping his eight-year-old stepdaughter. Louisiana law allows the district attorney to seek the death penalty for ..."
www.oyez.org/cases/2000-2009/2007/2007_07_343
20. Michelle Malkin » What the child rapist, saved today by Supreme ...
"25 Jun 2008 ... Anthony Kennedy and the leftists on the Supreme Court ruled this ..... Patrick Kennedy, the child raping scumbag in this case, should have been ..."
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Re: Martha Marcy May Marlene

Postby smiths » Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:41 am

but isnt that you making a connection that almost no-one else would make,

what i still dont get, is exactly how you occlude an important event or person by constantly linking and referring to them in MilInt scanarios/films etc
the question is why, who, why, what, why, when, why and why again?
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Re: Martha Marcy May Marlene

Postby lupercal » Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:01 am

smiths wrote:but isnt that you making a connection that almost no-one else would make,


exactly, but isn't that why it still works? Because it isn't widely or even narrowly understood, and where it is, as here, it's considered a whacky conspiracy theory?

smiths wrote:what i still dont get, is exactly how you occlude an important event or person by constantly linking and referring to them in MilInt scanarios/films etc


If on no other topic, on the Kennedys, they are relentless. Basically it's a form of negative advertising -- linking the competitor's product, if we can call the Kennedy family that, with horrible and/or trivializing distractions.

Oh they're doing it, have no doubt, and to a far greater extent than Hugh brings to our attention.
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