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Dolphin Language

Postby Weather Balloons » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:37 pm

Hey everybody, so I'm new to RI (this place is great), I searched around for previous threads to post this article in and didn't see anything that really fit, I wouldn't be surprised if I missed an appropriate thread though.

Anyways, I thought this was pretty interesting.

http://wakeup-world.com/2011/11/28/the- ... -language/


The Discovery of Dolphin Language

28th November 2011

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Researchers in the United States and Great Britain have made a significant breakthrough in deciphering dolphin language in which a series of eight objects have been sonically identified by dolphins. Team leader, Jack Kassewitz of SpeakDolphin.com, ‘spoke’ to dolphins with the dolphin’s own sound picture words. Dolphins in two separate research centers understood the words, presenting convincing evidence that dolphins employ a universal “sono-pictorial” language of communication.

The team was able to teach the dolphins simple and complex sentences involving nouns and verbs, revealing that dolphins comprehend elements of human language, as well as having a complex visual language of their own. Kassewitz commented,

"We are beginning to understand the visual aspects of their language, for example in the identification of eight dolphin visual sounds for nouns, recorded by hydrophone as the dolphins echo located on a range of submersed plastic objects."

The British member of the research team, John Stuart Reid, used aCymaScope instrument, a device that makes sound visible, to gain a better understanding of how dolphins see with sound. He imaged a series of the test objects as sono-pictorially created by one of the research dolphins. In his bid to “speak dolphin” Jack Kassewitz of SpeakDolphin.com, based in Miami, Florida, designed an experiment in which he recorded dolphin echolocation sounds as they reflected off a range of eight submersed objects, including a plastic cube, a toy duck and a flowerpot. He discovered that the reflected sounds actually contain sound pictures and when replayed to the dolphin in the form of a game, the dolphin was able to identify the objects with 86% accuracy, providing evidence that dolphins understand echolocation sounds as pictures. Kassewitz then drove to a different facility and replayed the sound pictures to a dolphin that had not previously experienced them. The second dolphin identified the objects with a similar high success rate, confirming that dolphins possess a sono-pictorial form of communication. It has been suspected by some researchers that dolphins employ a sono-visual sense to ‘photograph’ (in sound) a predator approaching their family pod, in order to beam the picture to other members of their pod, alerting them of danger. In this scenario it is assumed that the picture of the predator will be perceived in the mind’s eye of the other dolphins.

When Reid imaged the reflected echolocation sounds on the CymaScope it became possible for the first time to see the sono-pictorial images that the dolphin created. The resulting pictures resemble typical ultrasound images seen in hospitals. Reid explained:

"When a dolphin scans an object with its high frequency sound beam, emitted in the form of short clicks, each click captures a still image, similar to a camera taking photographs. Each dolphin click is a pulse of pure sound that becomes modulated by the shape of the object. In other words, the pulse of reflected sound contains a semi-holographic representation of the object. A portion of the reflected sound is collected by the dolphin’s lower jaw, its mandible,where it travels through twin fat-filled ‘acoustic horns’ to the dolphin’s inner ears to create the sono-pictorial image."

The precise mechanism concerning how the sonic image is ‘read’ by the cochleae is still unknown but the team’s present hypothesis is that each click-pulse causes the image to momentarily manifest on the basilar and tectorial membranes, thin sheets of tissue situated in the heart of each cochlea. Microscopic cilia connect with the tectorial membrane and ‘read’ the shape of the imprint, creating a composite electrical signal representing the object’s shape. This electrical signal travels to the brain via the cochlea nerve and is interpreted as an image. (The example in the graphic shows a flowerpot.) The team postulates that dolphins are able to perceive stereoscopically with their sound imaging sense. Since the dolphin emits long trains of click-pulses it is believed that it has persistence of sono-pictorial perception, analogous to video playback in which a series of still frames are viewed as moving images.

Reid said, “The CymaScope imaging technique substitutes a circular water membrane for the dolphin’s tectorial, gel-like membrane and a camera for the dolphin’s brain. We image the sono-picture as it imprints on the surface tension of water, a technique we call ‘bio-cymatic imaging,’ capturing the picture before it expands to the boundary. We think that something similar happens in the dolphin’s cochleae where the sonic image, contained in the reflected click-pulse, travels as a surface acoustic wave along the basilar and tectorial membranes and imprints in an area that relates to the carrier frequency of the click-pulse. With our bio-cymatic imaging technique we believe we see a similar image to that which the dolphin sees when it scans an object with sound. In the flowerpot image the hand of the person holding it can even be seen. The images are rather fuzzy at present but we hope to enhance the technique in future.

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Dr Horace Dobbs is Director of International Dolphin Watch and a leading authority on dolphin-assisted therapy.

"I find the dolphin mechanism for sonic imaging proposed by Jack Kassewitz and John Stuart Reid plausible from a scientific standpoint. I have long maintained that dolphins have a sono-visual language so I am naturally gratified that this latest research has produced a rational explanation and experimental data to verify my conjectures. As early as 1994, in a book I wrote for children, Dilo and the Call of the Deep, I referred to Dilo’s ‘Magic Sound’ as the method by which Dilo and his mother pass information between each other using sonic imaging, not just of external visual appearances, but also of internal structures and organs."

As a result of Reid’s bio-cymatic imaging technique Kassewitz, in collaboration with research intern Christopher Brown, of the University of Central Florida, is beginning to develop a new model of dolphin language that they are calling Sono-Pictorial Exo-holographic Language, (SPEL). Kassewitz explained,

"The ‘exo-holographic’ part of the acronym derives from the fact that the dolphin pictorial language is actually propagated all around the dolphin whenever one or more dolphins in the pod send or receive sono-pictures. John Stuart Reid has found that any small part of the dolphin’s reflected echolocation beam contains all the data needed to recreate the image cymatically in the laboratory or, he postulates, in the dolphin’s brain. Our new model of dolphin language is one in which dolphins can not only send and receive pictures of objects around them but can create entirely new sono-pictures simply by imagining what they want to communicate. It is perhaps challenging for us as humans to step outside our symbolic thought processes to truly appreciate the dolphin’s world in which, we believe, pictorial rather than symbolic thoughts are king. Our personal biases, beliefs, ideologies, and memories penetrate and encompass all of our communication, including our description and understanding of something devoid of symbols, such as SPEL. Dolphins appear to have leap-frogged human symbolic language and instead have evolved a form of communication outside the human evolutionary path. In a sense we now have a ‘Rosetta Stone’ that will allow us to tap into their world in a way we could not have even conceived just a year ago. The old adage, ‘a picture speaks a thousand words’ suddenly takes on a whole new meaning."

David M. Cole, founder of the The Aqua Thought Foundation, a research organization that studied human-dolphin interaction for more than a decade said,“Kassewitz and Reid have contributed a novel model for dolphins’ sonic perception, which almost certainly evolved out of the creature’s need to perceive its underwater world when vision was inhibited. Several conventional linguistic approaches to understanding dolphin communication have dead-ended in the last 20 years so it is refreshing to see this new and highly-nuanced paradigm being explored.”

The human capacity for language involves the acquisition and use of a complex system of vocal sounds to which we attribute specific meanings. Language, the relationship between sounds and meanings evolved differently for each tribe of humans and for each nation. It is generally believed that the human language faculty is fundamentally different from that of other species and of a much higher complexity. The development of vocal language is believed to have coincided with an increase in brain volume. Many researchers have wondered why dolphins have brains comparable in size with those of humans, considering that Nature creates organs according to need. The Kassewitz team’s findings suggest the large dolphin brain is necessary for the acquisition and utilization of a sono-pictorial language that requires significant brain mass.

Dolphins enjoy constant auditory and visual stimulation throughout their lives, a fact that may contribute to their hemispheric brain coordination. The dolphin’s auditory neocortical fields extend far into the midbrain, influencing the motor areas in sucha way as to allow the smooth regulation of sound-induced motor activity as well as sophisticated phonation needed for production of signature whistles and sono-pictures. These advantages are powered not only by a brain that is comparable insize to that of a human but also by a brain stem transmission time that is considerably faster than the human brain.

Kassewitz said,

"Our research has provided an answer to an age-old question highlighted by Dr Jill Tarter of the SETI Institute, ‘Are we alone?’ We can now unequivocally answer, ‘no.’ SETI’s search for non-human intelligence in outer space has been found right here on earth in the graceful form of dolphins."

Full results of this research are available on request. Please email either Jack Kassewitz or Stuart Reid.

Jack Kassewitz: speakdolphin@mac.com

Stuart Reid: john@sonic-age.com

Article Sources

http://www.alphagalileo.org/

http://www.speakdolphin.com/

http://cymascope.com

http://news.sky.com/



here's a link to the article again just in case

http://wakeup-world.com/2011/11/28/the- ... -language/
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Re: Dolphin Language

Postby RobinDaHood » Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:13 pm

Welcome Balloons! Good Article.
I never cease to be amazed by the intelligence and complexity of the animal life we share this planet with. They have so much to teach us, yet we show them so little respect. Alas, all is not lost...
Real life exclusive: Meet Sam the blind boy who uses dolphin-like clicks to navigate
Jacquie Oldridge, 43, was devastated when her son lost his sight. But an amazing new skill has given him a very different way to see the world.

Walking proudly down the street with my son Samuel, I could see the concentration etched on his face.

I could also see passers-by confused by the loud clicking noises he was making.

Samuel was blind and he needed a cane to get around safely. But, as he steered round parked cars and lampposts, his skill wasn't just down to his white stick.

My husband John, 45, a police officer, and I had discovered another way of helping Samuel navigate - and it was all thanks to bats and dolphins.

Samuel was only three when we discovered he had problems with his sight. We'd be reading a book when I realised he was pulling the pages really close to his face. As a GP, I watched him carefully. He wasn't suffering from headaches or any other symptoms so at first I wasn't too worried.

But soon it was obvious his eyesight wasn't improving. We took him to hospital but no one was concerned as Samuel seemed a healthy child. Instinctively we knew something wasn't right.

After more scans a surgeon Showed us a shadow behind Samuel's right eye. We were devastated when an MRI scan showed it to be a brain tumour the size of a golfball.

We were told it wasn't cancerous and chemotherapy could burn it out. But he had already lost vision in his right eye and he only had partial sight in his left.

I was stunned. No one could say how long the tumour had been there. But doctors said he'd learnt to compensate with his other eyes owell, and reading was the only way we would have picked it up. At Great Ormond Street Hospital a week later Samuel began emergency chemotherapy.

It was hard but within a few months of diagnosis Samuel had lost vision in his left eye. He was now completely blind. Instead of being scared, Samuel simply adapted.

He was always running round the place with his brother Nick, now 10, and rarely stumbled into furniture.

We were devastated but we tried being as normal as possible. If an adult had lost vision, they'd panic but Samuel knew no different so he coped much better. Sometimes he'd ask questions like: "Why can't I see?" and we'd try answering as simply as possible.

"Because you've got lumps in your head that don't behave." As years passed, Samuel was just like any other kid, except his storybooks were in Braille. He went to a mainstream school and even learnt to ride a bike and swim.
We then became involved with local branches of the charities Action for Blind People and Common Sense.

Through Common Sense we met Dan Kish, 41, a blind American man who'd founded World Access for the Blind. He had given a talk on a sonic skill which he'd pioneered called echolocation - using sound to identify objects by the echoes they produce.

CLICKING SOUNDS

Used by animals like dolphins and bats to find food by sending out hundreds of clicking sounds per second, Dan discovered the technique by accident after losing his sight to cancer as a child.

Dan had found that people sent out sounds at much slower rates and lower frequencies, so for echolocation to work for humans, objects would need to be much larger than, for example, the mosquitoes that bats bounce sound off.

John arranged for Dan to spend a few days with Samuel, where he taught him howtoclick his tongue and then interpret the sound as it echoes back.

He explained how building up mental pictures of things helped him navigate. We were stunned to discover that Dan could ride a bicycle on busy roads and tell whether he passed a lamppost or a tree just bye choes produced from his clicks.

Dan even led other blind people on mountain bike tours and hikes in the wilderness, visualising and describing sights around them through echolocation.

Samuel had a cane and, though it helped him identify objects in his path, Dan believed echolocation would give him 360-degree "vision" and greater freedom.

Samuel picked up the clicking quite easily. John watched amazed as Dan took Samuel to a shopping centre and saw them navigate around a store.


It seemed incredible, but even after a few sessions I could see the difference it was making to Samuel.

It was hard - as a mum you want to protect your kids but I knew wrapping him in cotton wool wouldn't help him.

"Let him do it himself," I'd plead with people if they tried to help Samuel do something he was struggling with.

Combining echo location with his cane, Samuel began making his way to the letter box near our home in Poole, Dorset, and navigating supermarket aisles. He's even used it for activities like swimming and tae-kwon do.

At school if he gets disorientated in the playground he uses a few clicks to work his way back to the building. We're so proud and hope he'll be able to choose the quality of life he wants rather than having it mapped out for him.

FOR MORE INFORMATION ON SERVICES AND SUPPORT FOR BLIND OR PARTIALLY SIGHTED PEOPLE VISIT http://WWW.ACTIONFORBLINDPEOPLE.ORG.UK. FOR FURTHER DETAILS ON ECHOLOCATION CONTACT DAN KISH VIA http://WWW.WORLDACCESSFORTHEBLIND.ORG

What the expert says

Sam is one of the first youngsters in the country to try the treatment. Dan Kish says: "Not everyone is as enthusiastic as the Oldridge family. I've met with some opposition to teaching this to blind students.

"The current professions don't really understand how powerful this is. Some object to the use of the tongue click.

"Others are afraid that people will rely too heavily on it, and less on their other skills like the cane.

"But we teach all skills together, and don't have a problem with tongue clicking. Students almost invariably become more confident, move faster and participate in more activities.

"They show improved posture and regard themselves as more able to direct themselves through their environment with less need for others.

"They are freer, and better able to choose the quality of life they wish to achieve, rather than have this chosen for them."
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Re: Dolphin Language

Postby norton ash » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:37 am

Hi, Weather Balloons. Welcome. Even though I don't believe in weather balloons. I think all those weather balloons we hear about are really UFOs. Anyone who applies Occam's Snowblower to a mystery, as I do, will come to the same conclusion.

Thanks for the article, and for all the fish.
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Re: Dolphin Language

Postby Weather Balloons » Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:29 pm

Anyone who applies Occam's Snowblower to a mystery, as I do, will come to the same conclusion.


Ha! Excellent, Norton. Thanks for the warm welcomes everyone. And Robin, here's a few videos of Dan Kish and friends showing off their supernatural abilities. I was having a tough time getting the videos embedded, so they're just links, sorry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpxEmD0gu0Q&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uobuBc2GO0o&feature=player_detailpage

Getting back to the original article I posted, this was one quote that sent me off on a bit of a rabbit chase last night.

John Stuart Reid has found that any small part of the dolphin’s reflected echolocation beam contains all the data needed to recreate the image cymatically in the laboratory or, he postulates, in the dolphin’s brain.


I spent a good while last night looking up what I could find about cymatics and the physics of sound and came across things like this. I don't really have enough knowledge of the physics of sound to know what to really make of this, but I at least like the idea that the form of sound is more of a bubble than a wave, it seems to make common sense at least. If anyone here is familiar enough with physics to help explain this all a little better, that would be cool.

http://www.cymascope.com/cyma_research/physics.html

The Physics of Sound

Sound in air is the transfer of periodic movements between adjacent colliding atoms or molecules. This sonic energy typically expands away from the site of the collisions as a spherical or bubble-shaped emanation, the surface of which is in a state of radial oscillation.

The sonic bubble expands and contracts with the same periodicities as the initiating sound source. The accepted model of sound wave's is incomplete because it uses the graphical representation of the mathematical law of sinusoidal energy, typically given as amplitude in the vertical axis versus time in the horizontal. While this is correct in terms of graphical depiction, it is not how the energy actually moves through space.

Sound in air does not travel as longitudinal waves as is commonly described in physics text books. Sound propagates spherically in air due to diffraction, the reactive result of atomic collisions. Reciprocal effects in air occur in the jostling of molecules initiated by a sound event, causing components of the sonic energy to move in all directions almost simultaneously. The distribution of energy within the sonic bubble is always concentrated on axis with the direction of primary propagation from the sound source.

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Cymatic model of sound

Sounds audible to humans are, as we have seen, essentially, spherical in form and invisible under normal circumstances. Using the emergent science of cymatics it is possible to image sound wherein we are able to obtain an analog of the sound sample periodicities in a form that permits close study. Imaging sounds cymatically requires a membrane on which the periodicities can be made visible, such as thin latex or the surface tension of water, typically captured by a still or video camera. Early experiments with latex, using fine particulate matter as the disclosing medium, showed fairly course detail in the geometry of the resulting CymaGlyphs. The surface tension of water is now the preferred medium onto which sounds may be imprinted, revealing their structure with fine detail and even revealing some 3D data.

It should be noted that the inherent resonance of the driving system and the surface tension of the water does influence the patterns obtained. These influences can be minimized by the use of electronic filtering techniques to flatten, as far as is possible, the response of the water to the chosen range of frequencies. Even so, it is not possible to be totally free of the resonances in a given system and allowance must be made in the experiments conducted.

Holographic Sound


The combination of gases that we term air consists of individual atoms, in the case of oxygen and nitrogen but as molecules, in the case of carbon dioxide. Other gases are present but in minor concentrations. When sound propagates in air, every atom or molecule lying in the path of propagation is involved in the process of passing on the sound data that originated from the sound source. The data takes the form of sinusoidal motions of the atoms and molecules that are in contact with the sound source. For example, if a sound source produces a tone of single frequency then the periodic motion of every atom and molecule will be of the same single periodicity. If the sound source produces a complex sound, with a multiplicity of frequencies, the atoms and molecules will each carry this array of periodicities.

The human voice is an example of a complex sound, wherein every single atom and molecule in the gases that form air transmit a multitude of vibrations that describe the uniqueness of the voice. As each atom or molecule bumps into its nearest neighbors their many periodic motions, representing the sonic data of the voice, is passed on at the instant of collision. If we could see the sound as it is being emitted it would appear as a bubble of sonic energy, the surface of which would shimmer due to every atom and molecule vibrating in unison.
Thus, I propose, sound is holographic. Theoretically, every atomic particle in a sonic bubble contains all the data of the sound source.

Ultrasound Propagation

Ultrasound, the frequencies above the range of human hearing, provide an atypical case of sound propagation. At frequencies above 20KHz, the effects of diffraction and thus sphericity, tend to diminish, resulting in a gradual progression to a pencil-like beam. This tendency occurs due to the smaller periodic range of motion within each atom or molecule, resulting in insufficient energy to cause diffraction. However, sphericity begins to return at very high sound pressure levels, for example at 130 dBA and above because there is sufficient sonic energy to cause multiple collisions.

The Nature of Light

Visible light is electromagnetism of a particular range of frequencies and although the precise nature of electromagnetism is not known, I propose that it is the result of the excitation of static magnetism, a form of energy inherent in the force fields of all atoms. When the force fields of atoms or molecules collide, there is a transfer of their periodicitiesdefined as the phonon or as sound.
Another result is the creation of electromagnetism. When real collisions occur between atoms or molecules (as opposed to elastic collisions) there must be a release of electromagnetic energy, generally classified as the photon or as light. The reason the electromagnetism is of sinusoidal law, it is proposed, is that each pair of colliding force fields are themselves vibrating sinusoidally due to the vibrational energy state of the atoms or molecules. The magnetic energy radiated is, thus, modulated by the periodic vibrations of the atoms or molecules.

The frequency of electromagnetism resulting from colliding force fields is not only a function of the vibrational energy states of the atoms or molecules but also of the velocity of the collisions.
Light created by atomic collisions in which the energy states of the atoms or molecules (coupled with their velocities) are too low to create visible light will create infra red light and at even lower energy states, radio frequencies. Light created by atomic collisions in which the energy states are extremely high will create X-ray and gamma ray electromagnetism.

Multiple collisions between atoms or molecules result in spherical propagation of electromagnetism. The reason for the sphericity, is similar to that of sound, where every collision has a dispersing effect (diffraction) on nearby atoms or molecules. In the case of electromagnetism, some collisions are reactions to the main direction of thrust, causing electromagnetism to travel in the opposite direction. In summary, spherical electromagnetism is the result of diffractive and reactive effects of atomic collisions.

Sonic Propagation of Electromagnetic Energy Components (SPEEC)

Sonic bubbles expand at approximately 700 miles an hour. Theoretically, this expansion generates an accompanying electromagnetic sphere that rushes away at 300,000 kilometres per second. As discussed above, it is proposed that the frequencies of electromagnetism created by sound are typically in the infra-red and radio frequency spectrum, depending upon the initial sound pressure. That is, high intensity sounds will likely generate infra-red energy and low intensity sounds will likely generate low levels of radio frequency radiation. As proposed above, I predict that the frequency of the emissions will be a function of the quiescent energy states of the atoms or molecules as well as their collision velocity.

Whereas the energy in the sonic bubble falls off rapidly with distance (sound outdoors typically radiates one mile), the electromagnetic sphere is not significantly attenuated by clear air. The electromagnetic sphere travels relatively unimpeded through the atmosphere to outer space where a myriad of examples of starlight show us that it will travel virtually forever unless it meets dense matter.

Sound pressure rapidly decreases as a result of the initial energy in the sonic bubble being distributed over a greater and greater surface area as it expands. The sonic bubble can only expand by the jostling of air molecules, which cause friction at the atomic level. As we have seen, theoretically, this friction creates electromagnetic energy. Sound pressure also decreases because a small amount of heat (electromagnetism in the infra-red/radio spectrum spectrum) results from each collision. Thus, sound energy dissipates, in part, due to its conversion to electromagnetism.
Theoretically, there are two component frequencies of oscillation in the sound-generated electromagnetic sphere. The first is the frequency of light created by the collisions. As we have seen, this oscillation is likely modulated by the inherent sound periodicities of the colliding atoms or molecules. The effect is similar to amplitude-modulated radio transmissions, although the SPEEC theory predicts a far higher "carrier" frequency.

In conclusion, SPEEC theory predicts that sound always has an electromagnetic (light) component. Accordingly, the frequencies of these components are either in the radio spectrum or in the infrared band, except where the sound pressure levels are extremely high. In such cases, sound would create visible light.

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Re: Dolphin Language

Postby Pele'sDaughter » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:05 pm

What a great first post, Weather Balloons. Dolphins are amazing.

Thus, I propose, sound is holographic. Theoretically, every atomic particle in a sonic bubble contains all the data of the sound source.


It seems the dolphin study has proved his theory.
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Re: Dolphin Language

Postby Nordic » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:12 pm

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Re: Dolphin Language

Postby Project Willow » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:25 pm

Welcome Weather Balloons. To post a youtube video, copy the link they provide when you click the share button. Then paste the link here and remove all of the url except the video's identifying string which usually comes after v= or a forward slash. Like this:

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Then highlight the string and click the youtube button in the post editing toolbar.

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Was going to post this in the cute thread in the lounge, please forgive the light, tangential intrusion.

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Re: Dolphin Language

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:30 pm

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Re: Dolphin Language

Postby Gnomad » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:03 pm

Lovely indeed. I've long been fascinated by dolphins (and also about what John Lilly wrote about his studies with them, and his attempts with isolation tank / telepathy with dolphins) and their language...
Such a breakthrough is awesome. Too bad we are in such a poor position ourselves regarding communicating with another intelligent species, as too many of us consider all other species somehow not intelligent at all...

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Re: Dolphin Language

Postby hanshan » Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:14 pm

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very cool, Weather Balloons, tx

& great photos Nordic


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Re: Dolphin Language

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:08 pm

Recent trials in Argentina of dirty war generals including the one nicknamed 'the Dolphin' who oversaw the murder of hundreds of lefties by dropping them into the ocean from planes and helicopters has led to an outcropping of "dolphin" media events.

http://www.yendor.com/vanished/junta.html

Chamorro, Ruben Jacinto. (Vice Adm.)

Alias 'Dolphin' or 'Maximo'. Chief of the Navy Mechanics School (ESMA) in Buenos Aires, one of the most notorious secret detention centers, as Navy captain. Was later promoted to Rear Admiral under the Navy commander-in-chief Emilio Massera. During his time as Navy Mechanics School commander Chamorro and his staff were responsible for thousands of tortures, lootings of detainees homes, and murders. The Navy Mechanics School came to the headlines in 1995 when retired Navy personnel who were serving in that base, started a series of confessions about throwing hundreds of live detainees from Navy planes into the Atlantic ocean.
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Re: Dolphin Language

Postby norton ash » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:14 am

^^^ Have you met Hugh Manatee Wins, Weather Balloons?

Anyway, I will respectfully disagree with HMW that you might be part of the CIA effort to divert our attention from Argentine crimes with dolphin articles. Just my .02
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Re: Dolphin Language

Postby Weather Balloons » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:13 pm

These are all great posts, thanks for all the responses. This is the first I've heard of a dolphin cover-up, it's certainly an interesting thread on the topic.

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Re: Dolphin Language

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:57 pm

you must take Hugh with a grain of sea salt :)

maybe a few grains :P
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