'Freak' elevator death at Young & Rubicam spook firm.

[Simulist]

Thanks for reminding me about where elevators come into the discussion, Db. My brain seems to have gotten stuck between floors there.

[Gnomad]

Thanks, dbcooper, had missed that.

DoYouEverWonder, I don't see anyone winning.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

....I'd hoped that people ignorant of the elevators used to carry off the 9/11 inside job > oil war scam would learn instead of troll. nope.

elevators Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth - Google Search

1. The Twin Towers - Gallery of Evidence
"ae911truth.org - Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth. ... of the core columns would be easily accessed from the elevator shafts in order to plant explosives. ..."
http://www.ae911truth.org/twintowers.php

2. AE911Truth.org
"Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth. ... Massive air pressure which would delivered by the (missing) “pile driver” down through the elevator hoist ways and out ..."
http://www.ae911truth.org/en/home.html

3. 9/11 Blueprint for Truth – The Most Compelling Presentation Proving ...
"This is why we now have the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and why ... If you had access to the elevator hoist way and you could hack through the two ..."
conspiracyrealitytv.com/911-blueprint-for-truth-the-most-compelling-presentation-proving-the-911-conspiracy-architect-richard-gage/

4. Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth: FAQ # 7: Squibs ...
"8 Dec 2011 ... NYC Dept. of Buildings: No Records for Pre-9/11 WTC Elevator Rebuild, One of the ... Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth: FAQ # 7: Squibs ..."
911blogger.com/news/2011-12-09/architects-and-engineers-911-truth-faq-7-squibs

5. Former senator, engineers offer 'proof' of 9/11 controlled demolitions ...
"9 Sep 2010 ... But a group of more than 1200 architects and engineers is building what it hopes ... Thursday, the group Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth offered evidence ..... The floor plans of the WTC, illustrate that during the elevator ..."
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6. wtc7lies
"February, 2009: Richard Gage's Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth .... damage to elevators & shafts, injuries in and near elevators, fallen elevators, fires, ..."
sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/

7. Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth: FAQ # 7: Squibs Alex Jones ...
"12 Dec 2011 ... Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth: FAQ # 7: Squibs ... by the (missing) “pile driver” down through the elevator hoist ways and out through a ..."
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8. Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth - Wikipedia, the free ...
"Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth is an American non-profit organization of .... According to Gage, an elevator modernization program that had taken place ..."
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9. Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth - Press Conference - Victoria ...
"19 Feb 2010 ... Architects and Engineers for 9-11 truth " Type that as well. ... who shut down the use of the elevators during the spring & summer of 2001? ..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpP_soa8B1M

10. Architects & Engineers For 9/11 Truth — Richard Humenn Interview ...
"16 May 2011 ... Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth Get Loc...by corystan19887 views · Thumbnail 41:43. Add to. Pilots For 9/11 Truth Presents "9/11 ..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXYrA2PkeD4

11. The last [recorded] words of Frank De Martini "Express elevators ...
"22 Oct 2010 ... The elevators were of course in the tower's core and columns ran though the shafts. ...... Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth - 2010-10-04 ..."
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12. NYC Dept. of Buildings: No Records for Pre-9/11 WTC Elevator ...
"20 Jul 2011 ... “BIS shows no elevator records for the time period in question. .... for veracity, please read Activist Post: Architects and Engineers Question… ... 9/11 TRUTH: 4 Suspects in World Trade Center Before 9/11 Doing Construction ..."
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13. Is “9/11 Truth” Based Upon a False Theory? | Veterans Today
"17 Jul 2011 ... On April 5, 2009, for example, Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth .... two or three floors during routine “maintenance” of elevator shafts, etc., ..."
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/17 ... se-theory/

14. Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 ...
"David had been in front of a nearby freight elevator on sub-level 1 about 400 ...... the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates ..."
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15. ARCHITECTS & ENGINEERS for 9/11 Truth please post here in this ...
"... opportunity to invite any Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth who ... from the exoskeleton to the elevator cores expanded from the heat. ..."
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t767050/

16. Skeptic » eSkeptic » Wednesday, September 7th, 2011
"7 Sep 2011... of Architects and founder of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth) ... down the elevator shafts caused several explosions and fireballs. Out of ..."
http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/11-09-07/

17. 9/11 'Truthers' to Tone Protests Down, for a Day - NYTimes.com
"9 Sep 2011 ... Members of the so-called 9-11 Truth movement range from extreme conspiracy theorists who ... Mr. Gage's group includes architectural and engineering professionals who .... Colleagues Recall Victim of Elevator Accident ..."
cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/09/911-truthers-to-tone-protests-down-for-a-day/

18. How 9/11 was done
"28 Oct 2008 ... Next the elevator moved from floor to floor while charges where being ..... (2 hours) of Richard Gage of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth: ..."
how911wasdone.blogspot.com/

19. What's the “Truth” About 9/11? « The Fallon Forum
"12 Dec 2011 ... What's the “Truth” About 9/11? ... Monday, we talk with Richard Gage, founder of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth. ... There were only 6 regular elevators above there, plus a freight and 2 express elevators, and they were ..."
fallonforum.com/?p=1162

20. How they got the explosives in the buildings; the easiest part of ...
"... the website Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth ( http://www.ae911truth.org. ... I believe unabated access to the elevator shafts would have been ..."
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread733043/pg2

[norton ash]

^^^ VeteransToday, Infowars, and Stormfront. Stay classy, HMW.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

^^^ VeteransToday, Infowars, and Stormfront. Stay classy, HMW.

Are you on drugs?
These are Google's [too often manipulated] search results. Do you have an agenda of misdirection away from scieintists providing evidence? Just confused?

The SCIENTISTS and PROFESSIONALS at Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth dominate the result sources.
As anyone can see. Which is why I posted them.

typical

[Nordic]

Right, hmw, how silly of me that in a city with what -- tens of thousands of elevators ? -- any crime that happens in an elevator there, from now until eternity, is directly caused by C.I.A. hit squads, in some vague attempt to distract people AWAY from the idea that elevators were "involved" in 911.

Makes perfect sense. My bad.

I farted in an elevator the other day. The CIA made me do it.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Right, hmw, how silly of me that in a city with what -- tens of thousands of elevators ?

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Gonna ignore the rarity of fatal elevator accidents that I cited?
The actual facts of the case I cited?
Typical troll.

- any crime that happens in an elevator there, from now until eternity, is directly caused by C.I.A. hit squads,

Straw man technique. professor pan, is that you? ech.

in some vague attempt to distract people AWAY from the idea that elevators were "involved" in 911.

Your most ignorant statement so far.
Ever heard of SEO? Search engine optimization? WHICH STORY'S GONNA HAVE MORE RESULTS? duh. Any at all as competition with 9/11 Truth versions justifies the effort given the stakes involved.

How about word-of-mouth?
How many of the MILLIONS of urban-suburban workers going to work by elevator had traumatic images flash through their minds where they had previously sublimated their vulnerability in a box high over a hole?
How many talked about it with their social networks - I mean - co-workers, friends, and families?

Makes perfect sense. My bad.

I farted in an elevator the other day. The CIA made me do it.

When unbelievable friction and denial and minimization and distortion about mil-intel psyops history and science pours forth from one username for a long time,...'watch your step leaving the elevator.'

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

1/12/11
Pacifica Radio interviews former-engineer for Underwriters Laboratories Kevin Ryan as info source on the spooks in the elevators setting up the 9/11 inside job-

http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/66755

Guns and Butter - "Demolition Access To the World Trade Center Towers" with Kevin Ryan.
"Demolition Access To the World Trade Center Towers" with Kevin Ryan.
WTC tenants, both companies and employees; security and design firms and their board members involved in redesigning and implementing the new security system after the 1993 basement bombing; companies and individuals involved in the clean-up of ground zero. Who had the means, access, motivation and who profited.

[barracuda]

People, this is Hugh's thread. Please argue the issues with him and refrain from pointless ad hominem, no matter how tempting. I should think there are plenty of avenues to of approach here besides that. Use them.

[Wombaticus Rex]

Ever heard of SEO? Search engine optimization? WHICH STORY'S GONNA HAVE MORE RESULTS? duh. Any at all as competition with 9/11 Truth versions justifies the effort given the stakes involved.

Yes, I do SEO for a living and as per usual, you're just using it as a prop to condescend to people, a means of summoning the appearance of expertise without the danger of having to actually explain things.

JUST...IN...CASE...someone posts about all those elevator movies before 9/11, right? So now your SEO strategy is covered...with the blood and guts of a tool. s.o.p.

This indicates to me that you emphatically don't understand SEO, but then again why would you? You only need to invoke its name.

If the search string / keyword cluster is "elevator movies 9/11" -- how is this Y&R accident going to show up? It is not a movie and it happened in December 2011.

More pointedly, why bother with all this when they could just alter the actual SERPs? CIA media, right?

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

.....
Yes, I do SEO for a living and as per usual, you're just using it as a prop to condescend to people, a means of summoning the appearance of expertise without the danger of having to actually explain things.
.....
More pointedly, why bother with all this when they could just alter the actual SERPs? CIA media, right?

As I posted above which you ignored, it ain't just about SEO.
Word of mouth AND print media, TV, radio are part of the formula of agenda-setting at key times of potential exposure/spread of subversive information.
There are now many many follow-up articles to this/these elevator death events.

Hell, I just found another elevator death-BY-DECAPITATION from Dec. 15, 2011 that is a scene right out of one of the movies, 'The Shaft' from 2001. I'll get to that.

Notice that the first page of Google search results for "elevators, death" puts the first mention of the 9/11 elevators (no inside job elements in it) at the very bottom-

News for elevators death

Real Estate Weekly
Fixing Our Broken Building Inspection Process

Huffington Post - 2 hours ago
This "self-certification" protocol was in place last week when Transel Elevator Inc. performed work on the elevator just hours before Hart's tragic death. ...
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Elevator deaths rekindle phobics' worst fears
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NYC Elevator Death Can Trigger Fear in People With Phobias - ABC ...
abcnews.go.com › Health6 days ago – An estimated 10 percent of all Americans have phobias, and claustrophobia is one of the most common, especially if you are trapped in an ...
Elevator Of Death (Father & Daughter Escape) - YouTube

► 2:00► 2:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijLywn1-2Gg
Apr 28, 2010 - 2 min - Uploaded by Zetanian1
T Shirt Hell: http://tinyurl.com/HellShirt I'll take the stairs next time...
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NYC probes for answers in freak elevator death - CBS News
http://www.cbsnews.com/.../nyc-probes-f ... r-deat...6 days ago – Officials focusing on mechanics of elevator that shot upward while woman was stepping inside.
Elevator Safety: Suzanne Hart's Tragic Death Raises Questions ...
http://www.thedailybeast.com/.../elevat ... c-deat...5 days ago – Writer Maura Kelly looks at how safe elevators are, reflecting on the two times she was trapped between floors.
eLCOSH : Deaths and Injuries Involving Elevators and Escalators ...
http://www.elcosh.org/.../deaths-and-in ... cal...This research was produced by CPWR – Center for Construction Research and Training, as part of a research agreement with the National Institute for ...
Young and Rubicam elevator accident: Ad exec Suzanne Hart ...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Young-Ru ... -exec-...5 days ago – Suzanne Hart, 41, was crushed to death when the lift shot up at the Y&R building in Manhattan. Investigators said they would look at work done ...
Despite Two Deaths in Two Weeks, Elevators Are Still Safer Than ...
gizmodo.com/.../despite-two-deaths-in-two-weeks-elevators...

by Kristen Philipkoski · More by Kristen Philipkoski
6 days ago – Yesterday a woman was killed when she tried to enter an elevator that suddenly shot upwards out-of-control. Just a week earlier, a woman was ...
Elevator surfing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elevator_surfingElevator surfing is illegal in most locations. Several people have died elevator surfing. Surfers can be crushed between the elevator and the top, sides, or bottom ...
Tragic death by elevator of Young & Rubicam worker Suzanne Hart ...
http://www.nydailynews.com/.../tragic-d ... am-wor...6 days ago – In a city with more than 63000 elevators, Wednesday's death in midtown left New Yorkers suddenly sweaty as they contemplated their formerly ...
USATODAY.com - Elevators were disaster within disaster
http://www.usatoday.com/news/sept11/200 ... _x.htmSome people plunged to their deaths after elevator cables were destroyed by the hijacked jets that crashed into the buildings. Others burned to death as flames ...

By remarkable coincidence, someone had their head cut off by an elevator 'shortly after it was serviced' in Houston.
This is a scene right out of the summer 2001 9/11 decoy/priming movie, 'The Shaft.'

December 15th?!! Wait a minute. Why does the story datelined "Dec. 15, 2011" but "updated Aug. 18, 2003"...???
Is someone rerunning old stuff for this psyops campaign?
But the story below is "copyright 2011". Hmmm.
Yes, the decapitation-by-elevator....happened in 2003.

http://www.houstonpress.com/photoGaller ... /229220/0/

Had enough damn coincidences?
THREE elevator deaths published (one a rerun) on the same weekend that the 'end of Iraq War' psyops campaign is swinging?
By crushing, burning, and decapitation. my my.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... ent=safari

Doctor Decapitated In Elevator Accident
Investigation Under Way Following Doctor's Death

Published On: Dec 15 2011 09:20:39 AM CST Updated On: Aug 18 2003 05:58:43 AM CDT
HOUSTON -
Officials of a downtown hospital are investigating the death of a surgical resident who was decapitated in an elevator mishap.

Christus St. Joseph Hospital may release additional information about Hitoshi Nikaidoh's death after a closed briefing Monday, said hospital spokeswoman India Chumney Hancock.

Nikaidoh, 35, of Dallas, was stepping into a second-floor elevator about 9:30 a.m. Saturday when the doors suddenly closed, pinning his shoulders. His head was severed when the elevator car moved upward. A female hospital employee witnessed the accident and spent about 20 minutes trapped inside the malfunctioning elevator until firefighters were able to rescue her.

The traumatized employee who witnessed the death was taken to the hospital's emergency room for treatment of shock, but was released later that day, said Hancock.

Photographs and measurements at the elevator by Houston police crime scene specialists were passed to Harris County medical examiners who continued conducting their inquiry into the accident. The entire elevator bank where Nikaidoh was killed was pulled from operation, but St. Joseph Hospital officials said the decision won't affect patient services.

The University of Texas Health Science Center's Dr. Margaret McNeese taught Nikaidoh for four years throughout medical school.

"He was a remarkable individual. He was one of the few students in all of my years here that I never saw him complain, without a smile on his face and any activity, regardless of how small or insignificant it might have seemed, he gladly took it on and did it to its full extent," McNeese said.

Nikaidoh graduated in 2003 from the University of Texas-Houston Medical School.

Kone Inc., the company responsible for servicing the elevator, gave a statement Monday that said, "We are extremely concerned about this incident, and our hearts go out to the family of Dr. Hitoshi Nikaidoh. We are working closely with the hospital and local authorities to determine the exact cause of this incident."

"The elevator bank was immediately shut down and remains out of service indefinitely," hospital spokeswoman India Hancock said. "All of us at St. Joseph Cristus Hospital are deeply, deeply saddened by the tragic death of Dr. Nikaidoh."

The hospital will hold a memorial service on campus following the family's memorial service.

Police said earlier that maintenance crews had worked on the elevators during the past week.

Elevators and escalators kill about 30 and injure about 17,100 people each year in the United States, according to data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics' Census of Fatal Occupational Injuries 1992-1998 and the Consumer Product Safety Commission.

Copyright 2011 by Click2Houston.com. The Associated Press contributed to this report.

[Searcher08]

Hugh, you do know that your Google results are personalised, yes?

You and I can do searches for the same term and see different results

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Hugh, you do know that your Google results are personalised, yes?

You and I can do searches for the same term and see different results

True. More internet mind-fuckery.

But the content of the Aug 16 2003 elevator-decapitation story RERUN on Dec. 15 2011 is not user-specific.

Nor are the two elevator deaths this past weekend.

[eyeno]

Hugh, you do know that your Google results are personalised, yes?

You and I can do searches for the same term and see different results

Any way to stop that? Proxy maybe?

[DoYouEverWonder]

Hugh, you do know that your Google results are personalised, yes?

You and I can do searches for the same term and see different results

Any way to stop that? Proxy maybe?

Use a different search engine that's not based on google's algorithms. Google totally sucks the last couple of years.