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Kangaroo deaths puzzle officials

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:35 am

<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Kangaroo deaths puzzle officials</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>August 10, 2005<br> <br>More than a dozen kangaroos have been found beheaded in the outer suburbs of Melbourne over the past three weeks, leading to calls by wildlife officials for an inquiry. <br>The carcasses were discovered in the city’s northeastern suburbs, but officials say that they do not know who, or what, is causing the deaths. <br><br>Deb Ganderton, an official in the Nillumbik Shire, said that most of the animals were badly decomposed or burnt, and the lack of remains was hampering investigations into the deaths by the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, and the state parks and conservation departments. <br><br>“We need a carcass so we can take it to the RSPCA or a vet so we can find out more about the decapitations,” she said. “Is it dogs, or someone shooting them?” There have been no reports of gunshots in the area. Most of the animals were found on a golf course, which has a kangaroo population of between 200 and 300. (AP)<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1728617,00.html" target="top">www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1728617,00.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Decapitated kangaroos found on Australia golf course</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>SYDNEY - The bodies of a dozen kangaroos have been found on an Australian golf course over the past 10 weeks, their heads chopped off and missing.<br><br><br>Wildlife officials said on Wednesday they were baffled by the beheadings of the iconic animals on the Yarrambat Park course outside the southern city of Melbourne. The course is next to a wildlife park and kangaroos frequently graze there.<br><br>“It’s strange. The heads have been taken off with a clean cut,” said Catherine Smith, an inspector with Australia’s Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals.<br><br>The groundsman at the golf course found the first few decapitated kangaroos and buried them, but when more headless animals appeared, he notified authorities.<br><br>“I’ve been here 20 years and I’ve never seen anything like it,” Rod Joronen told local media.<br><br>Officials said that one possibility was that the animals may have been shot first in the head and when their heart stopped, had their heads cut off.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp?xfile=data/theworld/2005/August/theworld_August296.xml&section=theworld&col=" target="top">Khaleej Times</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Kangaroo deaths puzzle officials

Postby ZeroHaven » Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:09 am

Looks like another battle in an ongoing war between the settlers and the original inhabitants of the area. Sacred symbol to some, total nuisance to others. <br>Here's a tiny bit of background, plus a prior roo massacre. <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.williams.edu/go/native/rooemu.htm" target="top">from 2002 - snippet about Aborigine rights</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> to roo and emu symbols. <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Their Victorian lawyer, Len Lindon, likened the use of the kangaroo and emu on the coat of arms to putting Jesus Christ on a footy jumper.<br>...<br>Wadjularbinna Nulyarimma, an elder of the Gulf of Carpentaria's Gungalidda people, said abuse of sacred symbols amounted to religious persecution. "The kangaroo and emu are connected to the Aboriginal people and the land is the foundation," Ms Nulyarimma said. "We have a law and religion that is interconnected and these animals are part of us through a skin grouping, or what the anthropologists call the kinship system."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br>Mon, 2 Aug 2004 <br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://lists.perthimc.asn.au/pipermail/peace/2004-August/000022.html" target="top">Aboriginal Tent Embassy Outraged with Kangaroo Massacre</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The Aboriginal Tent Embassy demands for an immediate stop to the massacre of aboriginal animals at Googong Dam in the A.C.T. Environment ACT described the shooting of 800-1000 eastern grey kangaroos at Googong Dam as ¡®operation success¡¯. The Aboriginal Tent Embassy is vocalizing the uproar from the Aboriginal community, which has been traumatized by the recent massacre of the kangaroos. "They same way they killed our old people, dig a big hole and put all their bodies in it, we still feel their spirits. Its too much," said Lorna Laurie, resident of the Aboriginal Tent Embassy.<br>...<br>"We can¡¯t see the reason for why this would need to happen. The reason being given is that there is not enough food or water for the kangaroos, but we know it¡¯s for the expansion of development, farming and industry to perpetuate this economic system. Indigenous people from all over the world are facing genocide from this same system," stated Gungalidda elder Aunty Wadjurlabinna. <br>...<br>Under section 116 of the Constitution, the Commonwealth cannot use its powers to prohibit freedom of religion. "This land has its own law, this other law is foreign it belongs to a foreign system, not our system, people had better come to learn, respect and understand our system, the kinship system. We are sovereign people of this land and our law is sovereign in this land. To continue to violate these ancient laws of Aboriginal culture, to disregard Aboriginal natural and spiritual law, while contradicting the constitution, is further perpetuating genocide against indigenous people" continued Aunty Wadjurlabinna.<br>...</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>It is also rumored by several sources that the beloved TV "Skippy" (think roo version of 'Flipper') was cancelled so that the public would not sympathize with the critters. <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/ZeroHaven/tinhat.gif"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>
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The golf course

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:54 am

Reading they were encroaching upon a golf course is very suggestive of settler rage. Though leaving the carcasses, and taking the heads - what's that about?<br><br>I very well remember Skippy, the Bush Kangaroo!<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.abc.net.au/perth/stories/Skippy_m830615.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>Favourite Australian export these days is <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Killer Instinct</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->. My youngest son likes me to pretend I'm Rob Bredl getting bitten by an Inland Taipan. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=rigorousintuition>Rigorous Intuition</A> at: 8/10/05 8:14 am<br></i>
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Conclusion: satanic ritual

Postby ZeroHaven » Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:01 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Though leaving the carcasses, and taking the heads - what's that about?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>I checked as best as I could, and could not find any reference to Aboriginal practices that would allow for such utter waste of the bodies. As quoted previously, they consider the kangaroo as sacred. Their practices are reminiscent of the Native Americans in using the entire animal as much as possible.<br><br>With the bodies being burnt, and the heads completely gone, the only direction I can think in is that this is in fact some sort of religious statement. I toyed with the idea that it may have been intended as a direct insult to the Aborigines, knowing their beliefs, but if that were so then the corpses should have ended up on their lawns - not the lawns of the perceived enemy.<br><br>Decapitated animals are usually a sign of sacrifice. In Santeria the bodies are simply discarded without any mutilation. The burning is most common in modern satanic rituals (and ancient christian ones). The heads are kept for many reasons, including the eating of the brain to acquire some kind of power.<br><br>If the killing of these animals were simply for the sake of removing vermin, or outraging the Aborigines, or even for outraging a sympathetic public, the heads should be lying around somewhere.<br><br>The statement "that the animals may have been shot first in the head" leads me to believe that there wasn't a lot of blood around the bodies and the officials were speculating on why. The missing blood is another indication of satanic practice, since preparation for a Kosher meal is out of the question.<br><br>The fact that the bodies were found on a golf course doesn't stand out greatly when compared to the many cases of other headless animal corpses repeatedly being found in public, <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/01.04.01/headless-0101.html" target="top">such as this one</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->. <br><br>After reviewing the possibilities I say that taking the heads was about practicing some sort of satanic ritual and disposing of unwanted byproducts. After all, there are allegedly <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.gaiaguys.net/vic.introduction.htm" target="top">people in Australia</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> heavily involved in satanism and pedophilia.<br><br>The only other idea I had involved someone stuffing and selling the heads as trophies... <!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/pipexdsl/r/arar93/mds975/Images/phil_holden03.JPG" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/ZeroHaven/tinhat.gif"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>
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Re: Conclusion: satanic ritual

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:46 pm

Thanks ZeroHaven, you make excellent points. Especially this:<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The statement "that the animals may have been shot first in the head" leads me to believe that there wasn't a lot of blood around the bodies and the officials were speculating on why.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Also, that the animal is held as sacred by Australia's traditional people makes it a natural sacrifice for a profane rite. <p></p><i></i>
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kangaroos

Postby smiths » Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:34 pm

there is no way that aborigines would decapitate and dump kangaroos, <br>and kangaroos dont 'encroach' on golf courses in australia, they sleep in the day and are totally out of sight, they come out late in the afternoon as the golfers finish their rounds,<br>the vast majority of golfers and australians love them,<br>and i am amazed by these stories<br><br>yes, they are sometimes culled when the numbers get tto big and encroach on farmers but that is done officially by the government and most dont like it, and it certainly is not a massacre like the canadian seal culls<br><br>intersetingly i read this the other day,<br><br>"If the West Australian Department of Environment was hoping the nearly 1,000 people working at the Telfer gold-copper mine would be in favour of culling the local dingo population, they’ll have to rethink it.<br>A survey on culling as an option to controlling the native dog was prompted after dingoes had been seen walking in the village area.<br>The survey conducted by the department showed that most people in the wider Telfer community were against culling and instead preferred to have the Telfer dingoes protected."<br><br>and bear in mind it wasnt that long ago that a dingo killed a kid on stradbroke island<br> <p></p><i></i>
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