America Lost the Civil War With The Lincoln War State

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Re: America Lost the Civil War With The Lincoln War State

Postby vanlose kid » Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:26 am

if RI had been up and running then would there have been a coincidence theory of the "Civil War"?

would there have been a thread titled "F%$# Abe Lincoln and the buggy he rode in on"?

just wonderin'.

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Re: America Lost the Civil War With The Lincoln War State

Postby vanlose kid » Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:36 am

"funny".

USS Abraham Lincoln had already entered the Persian Gulf via the Strait of Hormuz on Jan 22. She is escorted by a guided missile cruiser and two destroyers (USN), one British and one French warships.

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Re: America Lost the Civil War With The Lincoln War State

Postby publius » Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:57 am

Another way of framing my thought experiment is of course race relationships. Macht Politk ended slavery. It did not create social conditions favorable to harmonious race realtions and in fact hindered relations from improving for many years. After all the wanton slaughter and destruction to free the slaves and end the peculiar institution free wage labor -industrial serfdom instead of freehold farmers-by 1870 comprised the electorate. The contest between poor black and poor white for wage work continues to this day. The creation of perceptions in regards to favoritism stoke the tensions. So it seems that the Civil War subjugated the South, freed the slaves, created a DC elite and teeming masses pushed around on the Imperial chessboard. Marx re-wrote Das Kapital after the Civil War. He favored Lincoln's action.

Of course framed in the context of the Victorian era with the rise of the modern nation with industry improving weapons of war it would seem "ludicrous" for Americans to not emulate England France and Germany. American government had the ideology of Manfiest Destiny, had won the Civil War (but lost he peace) and were spoiling for more fights and with a decidely European idea of nation set out to build an Empire.

The Civll War was an umitigated disaster as all civil wars are, but our propaganda settles on freeing slaves.
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Re: America Lost the Civil War With The Lincoln War State

Postby American Dream » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:33 pm

publius wrote:Another way of framing my thought experiment is of course race relationships.

So since there a whole bunch of people using your same talking points about Lincoln, the Civil War, "States' Rights" and the like to advocate for what I can only be fairly called as a racist agenda, what then do you see as the implications for your "thought experiment" for political activity in the here and now?
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Re: America Lost the Civil War With The Lincoln War State

Postby Laodicean » Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:01 pm

American Dream wrote: what then do you see as the implications for your "thought experiment" for political activity in the here and now?


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Re: America Lost the Civil War With The Lincoln War State

Postby publius » Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:06 pm

AD, my talking points are not at all similar to the ones you described-except for your peculiar fears. Quite simply, war is an abomination. There are no just wars. The Sufi says a drop of blood upon the earth is not worth dominion of the world. I admit this is hardly PROGRESSIVE today, we like killing as a way of creative destruction. However, I cannot help but think of Tacitus: Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium; atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
Translation: To ravage, to slaughter, to usurp under false titles, they call empire; and where they make a desert, they call it peace. Oxford Revised Translation (at Project Gutenberg) [2]
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The Federal state as we understand it is a failure for 150 years as it is not only anti-democratic, it is anti-human. The Res Publica is not the "Public Thing." So we need to empower democracy from the bottom up by local rule and keeping money in the community.

For me therefore the fundamental political question becomes how do we have auto-emancipation? Revolutionary violence does not accomplish emancipation. Postive law does not prevent freedom from being eroded. The only answer must be more, read substantial, civic particpation in governance at the local level. The great central state is not American in inception. Americans enjoy governance in their own hands. Oligarchial Collectivism is the War State. The tension between the War State and her subjects is not going to end until the People in the several states reclaim their power from the central state and whittle it down to size.

Obviously giving trillions to crony capitalist plutocrats with no strings attached does not put that Capital to work helping humans. Yet this is the Federal state.
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Re: America Lost the Civil War With The Lincoln War State

Postby Sounder » Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:57 pm

The thing about insisting on maintaining slavery as a dominant frame for understanding the CW is that it belittles other causal influences. Perhaps slavery was a major aspect, but publius and anyone else ought to also examine other causal elements freely and without the imputed baggage of them being in support of slavery because they choose to leave slavery out of their analysis.

I tried to make a similar point over at AD’s TIDS thread. The point was made clearly and without rancor as a suggestion for a different flavor of causal chain.

AD’s putting me on ignore right after this is another indicator, to me anyway, that AD has more interest thinking he knows what is going on, than he has an actual interest about what is going on. That is, he is a slave to empty forms and cares nothing about the essence or the actual causal drivers of any given category.

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Re: America Lost the Civil War With The Lincoln War State

Postby publius » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:13 pm

I am not ignoring slavery, I simply refuse to acccept that this legal institution was rhe proximate cause of the CW. Maybe better said would be that any war can be justified by anything so long as belligerents agree on war. My observation is that Republican party racists wanted slaves deported and were concerned - rhetorically at least in Kansas- with the tension between free labor and slave labor as being unfavorable to free labor.

As I said before, WW2 was not about saving the Jews from Hitler. However the ill treament of the Jews did generate anger. Not enough to welcome refugees to this shore though. So i see the Civil War. Slavery was legal, slavery was dying, and slavery was involved in politics but slavery triggering this war directly-no.

Furthermore, we do see the history of 150 years after the Civil War as being rather incivil towards people who were black.
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Re: America Lost the Civil War With The Lincoln War State

Postby American Dream » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:16 pm

This article presents a good counterpoint and provides more context for important historical concerns:

Getting the Civil War Right

by James W. Loewen

Fall 2011


William Faulkner famously wrote, “The past is never dead. It’s not even past.” He would not be surprised to learn that Americans, 150 years after the Civil War began, are still getting it wrong.

During the last five years, I’ve asked several thousand teachers for the main reason the South seceded. They always come up with four alternatives: states’ rights, slavery, tariffs and taxes or the election of Lincoln.

When I ask them to vote, the results—and resulting discussions— convince me that no part of our history gets more mythologized than the Civil War, beginning with secession.

My informal polls show that 55 to 75 percent of teachers—regardless of region or race—cite states’ rights as the key reason southern states seceded. These conclusions are backed up by a 2011 Pew Research Center poll, which found that a wide plurality of Americans—48 percent— believe that states’ rights was the main cause of the Civil War. Fewer, 38 percent, attributed the war to slavery, while 9 percent said it was a mixture of both.

These results are alarming because they are essentially wrong. States’ rights was not the main cause of the Civil War—slavery was.

The issue is critically important for teachers to see clearly. Understanding why the Civil War began informs virtually all the attitudes about race that we wrestle with today. The distorted emphasis on states’ rights separates us from the role of slavery and allows us to deny the notions of white supremacy that fostered secession.

In short, this issue is a perfect example of what Faulkner meant when he said the past is not dead—it’s not even past.


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The Lost Cause
Confederate sympathizers have long understood the importance of getting the Civil War wrong. In 1866, a year after the war ended, an ex-Confederate named Edward A. Pollard published the first pro-southern history, called The Lost Cause: A New Southern History of the War of the Confederates. Pollard’s book was followed by a torrent of similar propaganda. Soon, the term “Lost Cause” perfectly described the South’s collective memory of the war.

All these works promoting the Lost Cause consoled southern pride by echoing similar themes: The South’s leaders had been noble; the South was not out-fought but merely overwhelmed; Southerners were united in support of the Confederate cause; slavery was a benign institution overseen by benevolent masters.

A chief tenet of the Lost Cause was that secession had been forced on the South to protect states’ rights. This view spread in part because racism pervaded both North and South, and both ex-Confederates and ex-Unionists wanted to put the war behind them. Beginning with Mississippi’s new constitution in 1890, white southerners effectively removed African Americans from citizenship and enshrined their new status in Jim Crow laws. Northerners put the war behind them by turning their backs on blacks and letting Jim Crow happen.

From 1890 to about 1940, the Lost Cause version of events held sway across the United States. This worldview influenced popular culture, such as the racist 1915 movie The Birth of a Nation and Margaret Mitchell’s 1936 bestselling paean to the Old South, Gone With the Wind. As I point out in my book Lies My Teacher Told Me, history textbooks also bought into the myth and helped promote it nationwide.

What’s Wrong About States’ Rights?
But advocates of the Lost Cause— Confederates and later neo- Confederates—had a problem. The leaders of southern secession left voluminous records. The civil rights movement of the 1950s and 1960s prompted historians and teachers to review those records and challenge the Lost Cause. One main point they came to was this: Confederate states seceded against states’ rights, not for them.

As states left the Union, they said why. On Christmas Eve of 1860, South Carolina, the first to go, adopted a “Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union.” It listed South Carolina’s grievances, including the exercise of northern states’ rights: “We assert that fourteen of the States have deliberately refused, for years past, to fulfill their constitutional obligations, and we refer to their own Statutes for the proof.” The phrase “constitutional obligations” sounds vague, but delegates went on to quote the part of the Constitution that concerned them— the Fugitive Slave Clause. They then noted “an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery. ... In many of these States the fugitive is discharged from service or labor claimed ...”

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South Carolina also attacked New York for no longer allowing temporary slavery. In the past, Charleston gentry who wanted to spend a cool August in the North could bring their cooks along. By 1860, New York made it clear that it was a free state and any slave brought there would become free. South Carolina was outraged. Delegates were further upset at a handful of northern states for letting African-American men vote. Voting was a state matter at the time, so this should have fallen under the purview of states’ rights. Nevertheless, southerners were outraged. In 1860, South Carolina pointed out that according to “the supreme law of the land, [blacks] are incapable of becoming citizens.” This was a reference to the 1857 Dred Scott decision by the southern- dominated U.S. Supreme Court.

Delegates also took offense that northern states have “denounced as sinful the institution of Slavery” and “permitted open establishment among them of [abolitionist] societies ...” In other words, northern and western states should not have the right to let people assemble and speak freely—not if what they say might threaten slavery.

Thoroughly Identified With Slavery
Other seceding states echoed South Carolina. “Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery— the greatest material interest of the world,” proclaimed Mississippi. “... [A] blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization.” Northern abolitionists, Mississippi went on to complain, have “nullified the Fugitive Slave Law,” “broken every compact” and even “invested with the honors of martyrdom” John Brown—the radical abolitionist who tried to lead a slave uprising in Virginia in 1859.

Once the Confederacy formed, its leaders wrote a new constitution that protected the institution of slavery at the national level. As historian William C. Davis has said, this showed how little Confederates cared about states’ rights and how much they cared about slavery. “To the old Union they had said that the Federal power had no authority to interfere with slavery issues in a state,” he said. “To their new nation they would declare that the state had no power to interfere with a federal protection of slavery.”

Their founding documents show that the South seceded over slavery, not states’ rights. But the neo-Confederates are right in a sense. Slavery was not the only cause. The South also seceded over white supremacy, something in which most whites—North and South—sincerely believed. White southerners came to see the 4 million African Americans in their midst as a menace, going so far as to predict calamity, even race war, were slavery ever to end. This facet of Confederate ideology helps explain why many white southerners—even those who owned no slaves and had no prospects of owning any—mobilized so swiftly and effectively to protect their key institution.

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This historic map shows how the United States was divided in 1861, as the Civil War began.
All of the seceding southern states were heavily dependant on slavery.
Keeping African Americans in bondage allowed slave owners
to cheaply grow cash crops like cotton, rice and sugar cane.



Tariffs, Taxes and Lincoln
The other alleged causes of the Civil War can be dispensed with fairly quickly. The argument that tariffs and taxes also caused secession is a part of the Lost Cause line favored by modern neo-Confederates. But this, too, is flatly wrong.

High tariffs had been the issue in the 1831 nullification controversy, but not in 1860. About tariffs and taxes, the “Declaration of the Immediate Causes” said nothing. Why would it? Tariffs had been steadily decreasing for a generation. The tariff of 1857, under which the nation was functioning, had been written by a Virginia slaveowner and was warmly approved of by southern members of Congress. Its rates were lower than at any other point in the century.

The election of Lincoln is a valid explanation for secession—not an underlying cause, but clearly the trigger. Many southern states referred to the “Black Republican Party,” to use Alabama’s term, that had “elected Abraham Lincoln to the office of President.” As “Black Republican” implies, Alabama was upset with Lincoln because he held “that the power of the Government should be so exercised that slavery in time, should be exterminated.” So it all comes back to slavery.

Study the Writing of History
None of this was secret in the 1860s. The “anything but slavery” explanations gained traction only after the war, especially after 1890—at exactly the same time that Jim Crow laws became entrenched across the South. Thus when people wrote about secession influenced what they wrote.

And here the states’ rights argument opens a door for teachers to explain how perceptions of the past change from one generation to the next. Most students imagine history is something “to be learned,” so the whole idea of historiography—that who writes history, when and for what audience, affects how history is written— is new to them. They need to know it. Knowledge of historiography empowers students, helping them become critical readers and thinkers.

Concealing the role of white supremacy—on both sides of the conflict— makes it harder for students to see white supremacy today. After all, if southerners were not championing slavery but states’ rights, then that minimizes southern racism as a cause of the war. And it gives implicit support to the Lost Cause argument that slavery was a benevolent institution. Espousing states’ rights as the reason for secession whitewashes the Confederate cause into a “David versus Goliath” undertaking— the states against the mighty federal government.

States’ rights became a rallying cry for southerners fighting all federal guarantees of civil rights for African Americans. This was true both during Reconstruction and in the 1950s, when the modern civil rights movement gained strength. Today, the cause of states’ rights is still invoked against federal social programs and education initiatives that are often beneficial to people of color.

In other words, teaching the Civil War wrong cedes power to some of the most reactionary forces in the United States, letting them, rather than truth, dictate what we say in the classroom. Allowing bad history to stand literally makes the public stupid about the past—today.


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Re: America Lost the Civil War With The Lincoln War State

Postby compared2what? » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:17 pm

publius wrote: Revolutionary violence does not accomplish emancipation.


If that's your premise, the country was doomed at the outset.

As to your thought experiment, it might be useful to look at how other countries ruled by culturally racist elites in which the process of abolition did not include a civil war fared after ending slavery.

South Africa, for example. It's a republic. And it did the state's-rights thing, in a way. (Homelands, townships, etc.) If it wasn't for that darn Lincoln, maybe we could have ended up like them.
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Re: America Lost the Civil War With The Lincoln War State

Postby publius » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:29 pm

O how about England. South Africa is a bad example because the ANC is stuck on stupid.

As for AD, Lincoln spoke about his tariff enforcement by force.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo199.html

Tariffs certainly were an issue in 1860. Lincoln’s official campaign poster featured mug shots of himself and vice presidential candidate Hannibal Hamlin, above the campaign slogan, "Protection for Home Industry." (That is, high tariff rates to "protect home industry" from international competition). In a speech in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania ("Steeltown, U.S.A."), a hotbed of protectionist sentiment, Lincoln announced that no other issue was as important as raising the tariff rate. It is well known that Lincoln made skillful use of his lifelong protectionist credentials to win the support of the Pennsylvania delegation at the Republican convention of 1860, and he did sign ten tariff-increasing bills while in office. When he announced a naval blockade of the Southern ports during the first months of the war, he gave only one reason for the blockade: tariff collection.

As I have written numerous times, in his first inaugural address Lincoln announced that it was his duty "to collect the duties and imposts," and then threatened "force," "invasion" and "bloodshed" (his exact words) in any state that refused to collect the federal tariff, the average rate of which had just been doubled two days earlier. He was not going to "back down" to tax protesters in South Carolina or anywhere else, as Andrew Jackson had done.

The most egregious falsehood spread by Loewen is to say that the tariff that was in existence in 1860 was the 1857 tariff rate, which was in fact the lowest tariff rate of the entire nineteenth century. In his famous Tariff History of the United States economist Frank Taussig called the 1857 tariff the high water mark of free trade during that century. The Big Lie here is that Loewen makes no mention at all of the fact that the notorious Morrill Tariff, which more than doubled the average tariff rate (from 15% to 32.6% initially), was passed by the U.S. House of Representatives during the 1859–60 session of Congress, and was the cornerstone of the Republican Party’s economic policy. It then passed the U.S. Senate, and was signed into law by President James Buchanan on March 2, 1861, two days before Lincoln’s inauguration, where he threatened war on any state that failed to collect the new tax. At the time, the tariff accounted for at least 90 percent of all federal tax revenues. The Morrill Tariff therefore represented a more than doubling of the rate of federal taxation!

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http://www.factasy.com/civil_war/2008/0 ... uth_secede

Few people today understand why the South distrusted the Republican Party. Not only was the Republican Party a new party, it was also the first purely regional (or sectional) party in the country’s history. Republican leaders frequently gave inflammatory anti-Southern speeches, some of which included egregious falsehoods and even threats (Susan-Mary Grant, North Over South: Northern Nationalism and American Identity in the Antebellum Era, University of Kansas Press, 2000). Historian William C. Cooper points out that the Republicans “had no interest in cultivating support in the South, which they branded as basically un-American,” and that “No major party had ever before so completely repudiated the South” (Jefferson Davis, American, Vintage Books Edition, New York: Vintage Books, 2000, pp. 294, 295). British historian Susan-Mary Grant notes that the Republican Party that came into being in 1854 was “a sectional party with a sectional ideology . . . that was predicated on opposition to the South, to the economic, social, and political reality of that section” (North Over South, p. 17). Southerners were alarmed when dozens of Republican congressmen endorsed an advertisement for Hinton Helper’s book The Impending Crisis of the South, which spoke approvingly of a potential slave revolt that would kill untold numbers of Southern citizens in a “barbarous massacre.” The Republican Party even distributed an abridged edition of the book as a campaign document, and Republican editors added captions like “The Stupid Masses of the South” and “Revolution . . . Violently If We Must.” Southerners also noticed that the Republicans broke the long-established tradition of having a sectionally balanced presidential ticket. For decades, all major political parties had nominated tickets that consisted of one candidate from the North and one from the South. Each of the three other parties in the 1860 election followed this tradition, but not the Republican Party. Another reason that Southerners were worried about the Republicans was that the party’s leaders made it clear they would push for several policies that the South believed were harmful and unconstitutional. Many Southerners feared that Republican leaders were determined to subjugate and exploit the South by any means. With these facts in mind, perhaps it’s not hard to understand why the election of Lincoln triggered the secession of seven Southern states.
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Re: America Lost the Civil War With The Lincoln War State

Postby compared2what? » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:47 pm

publius wrote:I am not ignoring slavery, I simply refuse to acccept that this legal institution was rhe proximate cause of the CW.


It was precisely the proximate cause for the Civil War. And regionally sectionalist strife over it was nothing new in 1861, It's just that prior to that, the southern states had been able to use the disproportionate federal clout they enjoyed due to the three-fifths compromise to beat down any and all challenges to the institution.

They were bullies, basically. And their tactics were very similar to those the Tea-Party faction used to fuck up the debt-ceiling negotiations last year. So when those stopped working, they took their ball and went home, like the great big babies that most bullies are at heart.

It's a mystery to me why or how anyone could regard them as admirable. Frankly.
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Postby compared2what? » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:50 pm

publius wrote:O how about England. South Africa is a bad example because the ANC is stuck on stupid.


England never had much of a slave population at home. None of the Western European/Christian countries did. It was a New World/colonial phenomenon.

So England is not just a bad example, it's simply not an example. Besides which, South Africa's racial issues weren't fucking originated by the ANC.
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Postby compared2what? » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:54 pm

To put it mildly.
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Postby publius » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:20 pm

England had a slave population abroad and they ended slavery. We could discuss serfdom, but that was not slavery. Had you read the post on Lincoln's Republicans I think your view would change.
Tariff's caused the war. The Union could live with slavery. The Federal government being starved of revenue though-this cannot stand.

It is not so much admiration for slave owners as the self determination of the South to free their politics from the North. That is why this was the wrong war to fight. Only the War State won that war.

As for South Africa, the ANC has a problem of triabalism and crony corruption.

With the recent election of Zuma as president, the Afrikaner writer and comrade of Mandela- Breyten Breytenbach -assesses the post-apartheid era and confides his fears and hopes

South Africa: The Grand Disillusion http://www.archipelagobooks.org/page.php?id=12

Le Nouvel Observateur: In your new book, Notes from the Middle World, you publish a letter to Mandela for his 90th birthday in 2008. When he came to power in 1994, you had already written an open letter emphasizing that “your loyalty would take the form of a vigilant opposition.” What changed in South Africa between these two letters?

Breyten Breytenbach: The disappointment is on a scale with my own illusions. There is a great bitterness regarding what the ANC (African National Congress), the party in power, has become. The situation is worse than fifteen years ago, when our hearts were full of optimism and we believed in a change towards social and economic justice. We thought ourselves capable of bringing to life Nelson Mandela’s notion of a “rainbow nation”; this meant carrying to term this process that the ANC would promote a veritable South African nation, necessarily hybrid since it is formed of very diverse components. But this process was interrupted, not as much by Mr. Mandela as by his successor, Thabo Mbeki. Nevertheless, although Mandela has left the political scene, he is still wholly identified with the ANC. One day he said that the first thing he would do as soon as he got to heaven would be to ask where he could register for the ANC. Since 1994 and the ANC’s coming to power, many things have changed, of course. We have seen the rise of a generation of politicians, and especially the participation of a population formerly excluded from all forms of political, legal and also economic activity, to a certain extent. But at the same time we have witnessed the deterioration of institutions, the rise of large-scale corruption and the multiplication of broken economic and social promises. The chasm that separates the rich and the poor has become deeper than it was fifteen years ago, with the difference that among the rich, today you will find many of the ANC’s employees.
N.O.: In this last letter to Mandela, you write of “the obscene manner in which his 90th birthday was celebrated” and denounce the violence, the thefts, the rapes, the pursuit of racism, the absence of public morality. . . A terrible report. How did it come to this?
B. Breytenbach: That’s the great question that many South Africans are asking themselves. To what extent were we mistaken about the moral quality of the liberation movement and of its leaders? Was the country ultimately a poisoned gift for those who inherited it? We ritually evoke the “liberation of South Africa,” but it did not play out in a classic manner: there was no revolutionary rupture or war’s end. Our liberation was the result of a long process, which moreover guaranteed the continuation of the same State. This continues to create several problems, since a certain number of former leaders and notorious war criminals are still protected by the State. Moreover, the country was probably plunged into a much deeper disorder than was initially believed when the ANC came to power. Did the ANC then fail at its mission? Several factors were simultaneously at play. When the desire was to change the institutions of the interior, it was necessary to replace civil servants with new ones. In doing this, we greatly deprived ourselves of expertise. Today, for example, it appears that 60% of the municipalities in the country have gone bankrupt, essentially due to the total negligence and indifference of the new local administrators. You can moan all you want about the former administrative officers, but they were the product of a caste of Apparatchiks who directed the country relatively well. Furthermore, the ANC inherited a good infrastructure, with its roads, schools, universities, hospitals. . .
But behind all that are decisions of a cultural or psychological order that are more difficult to identify. The ANC is a very old organization that has suffered greatly from its years of clandestine existence, during which it knew isolation, perpetual hounding and an obsession with being infiltrated. In its DNA, there is a strong component of almost paranoid victimization. Still today, as soon as it is criticized, the ANC responds immediately, saying: “You cannot understand what it is like to have been in resistance for so long and to have suffered so much in order to liberate the country.” There is also a persistent myth surrounding the ANC: this organization known as the Great Tent which grouped together all of the anti-apartheid tendencies. It went from the left (even left of the Communist party) to the country’s more traditionalist milieus. Hence the demand of a unity that must be preserved by all means. Solidarity within the ANC takes precedence over all other considerations. And while certain administrators, including current president Jacob Zuma, are now being accused of corruption, it is nearly impossible for the ANC to find within itself the moral force necessary for cleaning up its own stalls. This gives rise to a sort of generalization of impunity. And when someone is caught in the act, instead of being relieved of his duties, he is simply “redeployed” elsewhere. This is called “deployment of officers.” As a result, one-third of the executive committee of the ANC is constituted by accused criminals who have been indicted for serious wrongdoing: fraud, theft, or embezzlement of public funds. . . This is why the ANC abolished this special section of Scorpions that had been created precisely to track down economic crimes. A few months ago the Scorpions signed their own death warrant because too many of the leaders of the ANC were implicated. We are indeed in a State with a single party, with all of the risks of “totalitarian drifting” that are implied.
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