Global Warming, eh?

[wintler2]

16 different models correlating the increase in the frequency of previously rare summertime-average temperatures with the global increase of bad music would lead to the same 'results' and 'conclusions' that Duffy has outlined here.

Longwinded ridicule, 4/10 for style, 0 for substance.

I particularly like "This supports the conclusion that extreme summertime temperatures [already observed to occur more frequently] are already occurring more frequently." Why does Duffy need a model to confirm 'observations'?

When something strange happens, some people ask 'how come?'. Models help in working out how come.

[Sounder]

Ah, the old ridicule the critique as being ridicule gambit.

Hey, use what works I always say, but whatever you do, certainly avoid all contact with the substance of another persons argument.

Either or, all the way baby. America! Fuck Yeah!

[eyeno]

Ah, the old ridicule the critique as being ridicule gambit.

Hey, use what works I always say, but whatever you do, certainly avoid all contact with the substance of another persons argument.

Either or, all the way baby. America! Fuck Yeah!

Ah, the old ridicule the critique as being ridicule gambit.

Hey, use what works I always say, but whatever you do, certainly avoid all contact with the substance of another persons argument.

Either or, all the way baby. America! Fuck Yeah!

I think the mods should clean this fucking house out so people can speak of real issues. Not just about this bogus climate change shit but all the other stuff too. This house is so stuffy I can't breathe. I am trying to stay but damn....it is hard to breathe. I can feel this forum breathing with every post, in and out, in and out, in and out. It is a battle between that which is and that which is not. I know Jeff and the mods feel it and so do I. I don't know what the answer is. I know traffic counts, but damn.....the left hand has the upper hand and its no fun anymore............Yes I know jack, I can just haul my ass out of here. I'm trying not to, but I can.....and i will

this is the last place i ever thought the anti-fascist fascist would push me out, but they have, i'm trying to stay, but damnnn... its hard

[tazmic]

16 different models correlating the increase in the frequency of previously rare summertime-average temperatures with the global increase of bad music would lead to the same 'results' and 'conclusions' that Duffy has outlined here.

Longwinded ridicule, 4/10 for style, 0 for substance.

If you think the research article has any substance over 'it's not unforced climate variability' then let us know what that is.

I particularly like "This supports the conclusion that extreme summertime temperatures [already observed to occur more frequently] are already occurring more frequently." Why does Duffy need a model to confirm 'observations'?

When something strange happens, some people ask 'how come?'. Models help in working out how come.

No shit. So tell me, why does Duffy need a model to confirm 'observations'?

[Iamwhomiam]

eyeno, Percy, whomever you are,

Here eyeno wrote:

I think the mods should clean this fucking house out so people can speak of real issues. Not just about this bogus climate change shit but all the other stuff too. This house is so stuffy I can't breathe. I am trying to stay but damn....it is hard to breathe. I can feel this forum breathing with every post, in and out, in and out, in and out. It is a battle between that which is and that which is not. I know Jeff and the mods feel it and so do I. I don't know what the answer is. I know traffic counts, but damn.....the left hand has the upper hand and its no fun anymore............Yes I know jack, I can just haul my ass out of here. I'm trying not to, but I can.....and i will

this is the last place i ever thought the anti-fascist fascist would push me out, but they have, i'm trying to stay, but damnnn... its hard

Like a guest who comes to dinner and doesn't bring a bottle of wine and then complains about the meal and the conversation, you've offered nothing of substance to this discussion, except in that you have now, after 26 pages, finally revealed your bias.

Of course, you see no insult in your comment to our host or his mods.

I must say, eyeno, that's rather bizarre behavior you're exhibiting here, after all, you are responsible for your own emotional reactions to others. If you feel it's 'stuffy' here, try taking the plastic bag your mind's created off of your head.

And this is just plain outrageous Nutso nonsense and you should be called out for even making such a suggestion, which I believe violates the rules of this board:

Here Eyeno wrote
ICE squared has no purpose except upon itself, you get it don't you?

What was upon the beach of Katrina most delayed? It was ICE. And it was labeled NOMO. (law) How much more guide you need I cannot provide.

Who deals with immigrants? It be ICE. Study students. Study. You be an ice cube, though you know it not. You can be chilled by the heat, of the winter. Say not much, not too much warmth, or it may be chilled by the heat of the Sun.

You're in effect claiming wintler2 and I are some sort of agents. I doubt winter2 is and I know I've spent my life fighting the ruling class, so you are way out of line.

You wanted to discuss ice cubes and argue about the impact of melting antarctic ice and I furthered the conversation, which was basically that rising oceans will kill perhaps millions of people, (cause a world-wide catastrophe) Something to be avoided in my view.

Perhaps you would welcome such a 'cleansing'? Is that the "Camp" you're in?

I am in only one camp, the human camp, and I work to protect all people from harm... always have and always will. In service to others.

And Sounder, how long will I need to wait for you to live up to your word?

Here Sounder wrote:

I wrote:
If you don't know what a Carbon Tax Credit is or what a Carbon Tax is, just say so.

I will comment on the global warming thread on this.

[wintler2]

If you think the research article has any substance over 'it's not unforced climate variability' then let us know what that is.

I haven't read the research paper and i'll bet you haven't either, but based on the online article, 'it's not unforced climate variability'/ [observed summer temp extremes are not random/natural] is its major conclusion. You may not find that very exciting, quite possibly the scientists involved didn't either, but remember the US is still at the "global warming is a communist plot" level.

I particularly like "This supports the conclusion that extreme summertime temperatures [already observed to occur more frequently] are already occurring more frequently." Why does Duffy need a model to confirm 'observations'?

When something strange happens, some people ask 'how come?'. Models help in working out how come.

No shit. So tell me, why does Duffy need a model to confirm 'observations'?

You're trying to make a case out of the wording in a newspaper article?? Talk about desperate.
The extreme temps are observed, why they've got the extremes is the question, whether they're just due to natural variability or if only a climate model that includes GHG radiative forcing can explain them. Just another study among thousands that confirms AGW .. maybe once the billionaires stop funding denial, research will move on to more exciting questions.

[slimmouse]

You're trying to make a case out of the wording in a newspaper article?? Talk about desperate.
The extreme temps are observed, why they've got the extremes is the question, whether they're just due to natural variability or if only a climate model that includes GHG radiative forcing can explain them. Just another study among thousands that confirms AGW .. maybe once the billionaires stop funding denial, research will move on to more exciting questions.

Its going well wintler, isnt it ?



Viva change for the better !!

Talk about laughing at the state of the world huh ? Is that post of yours actually still around where you met, had a few beers and laughed with Holmgren at the state of the world ? Thank the universe for youre ongoing positive contribution.

[wintler2]

If i'm still getting attacked by the likes of eyeno & slimmouse, i know i must be doing something right.

[slimmouse]

If i'm still getting attacked by the likes of eyeno & slimmouse, i know i must be doing something right.

Indeed you are Wintler2. Youre perpetuating the unwinnable debate, whilst all around you the world burns. You offer zero insight into anything positive and zero hope for the future.

Mission accomplished ?

PS. Where did that post go about you and holmgren sharing a few beers and laughing at the state of the world ?

[wintler2]

Youre perpetuating the unwinnable debate,

Wrong - trolls get bored, i've seen off many, including you for years at a time.

And they/you keep me informed on the latest denialist line to come from Bolt/Heartland Institute etc. Thanks!

whilst all around you the world burns. You offer zero insight into anything positive and zero hope for the future.

If this is about your hopium on hydrogen, such fantasies are for slaves of business as usual. "if a path to the better there be, it begins with a full look at the worst."

Mission accomplished ? PS. Where did that post go about you and holmgren sharing a few beers and laughing at the state of the world ?

Relevance?


I wonder if these current personal attacks from you/eyeno are an effort to get this thread locked and binned, since y'all deniers have so obviously failed yet again.

[slimmouse]

Youre perpetuating the unwinnable debate,

Wrong - trolls get bored, i've seen off many, including you for years at a time.

And they/you keep me informed on the latest denialist line to come from Bolt/Heartland Institute etc. Thanks!

whilst all around you the world burns. You offer zero insight into anything positive and zero hope for the future.

If this is about your hopium on hydrogen, such fantasies are for slaves of business as usual. "if a path to the better there be, it begins with a full look at the worst."

Mission accomplished ? PS. Where did that post go about you and holmgren sharing a few beers and laughing at the state of the world ?

Relevance?


I wonder if these current personal attacks from you/eyeno are an effort to get this thread locked and binned, since y'all deniers have so obviously failed yet again.

Thanks for the reply. I really am lost for words, which is unusual for me. Except perhaps to say that their is hope AFAIC.



Big love to you Wintler2

[tazmic]

The extreme temps are observed, why they've got the extremes is the question, whether they're just due to natural variability or if only a climate model that includes GHG radiative forcing can explain them. Just another study among thousands that confirms AGW

Do you think 'A second statistical analysis showed that this increase also is very unlikely to be due to chance weather variations alone, such as El Ninos or La Ninas' is saying anything about GHG radiative forcing models?

Where did it show 'only a climate model that includes GHG radiative forcing can explain them'? What would it mean to be able to show that? Do you think they have done this?

If you think this article (not the paper, you haven't read that right?) confirms AGW, then that explains a lot.

[eyeno]

Agenda 21 stooges never cease to amaze me. Look at the damn Agenda 21 map. You see green in Magnolia, Arkansas? We have a multi trillion dollar operation there. Yes, fly over country. You never cease to amaze me with your lack of sight.

[wintler2]

The extreme temps are observed, why they've got the extremes is the question, whether they're just due to natural variability or if only a climate model that includes GHG radiative forcing can explain them. Just another study among thousands that confirms AGW

Do you think 'A second statistical analysis showed that this increase also is very unlikely to be due to chance weather variations alone, such as El Ninos or La Ninas' is saying anything about GHG radiative forcing models?

Yes, that those models explain temp extremes where ElNino/LaNina doesn't, isn't that exactly what they're saying?

Where did it show 'only a climate model that includes GHG radiative forcing can explain them'?

The 'only' is my mistake, there may be other explanations, but there are none that fit the data so well. The solar-variation argument for example simply doesn't correlate with the observed temps. If you have a theory for temp extremes that explains the observations, share it with the world. If it means the 40% decline in streamflow in my birthplace might be reversed, i'll be thrilled.

If you think this article (not the paper, you haven't read that right?) confirms AGW, then that explains a lot.

One piece of research confirms nothing, many thousands all pointing roughly in same direction do. Maybe thats why nearly every national academy of science has endorsed AGW as the best explanation.

[Burnt Hill]

Burnt Hill wrote:
Fail.
Of course asking someone not to do something implies they have, or will do such a thing.
You are smarter than that.

Exactly! You too, BH.^^^

The Heartland Institute scandal has its own thread BH, here.

Asking you not to do something is a bit different than claiming you had done something.

The Boldface is yours.
You cant have it both ways.
I misses a thread, not sure thats ever happened. . but thanks.