#OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

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Postby Sounder » Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:18 am

Notice in the following that the change was internalized as well as it was because the class struggle element was stronger than ideological drivers. So if the 1%’ers choose to make such a mockery of ‘elections’ in purported ‘democracy’s’, then the logical option is to shut the system down with general strike.

Off to search for some glue.

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Waging Nonviolence / By George Lakey
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How Swedes and Norwegians Broke the Power of the '1 Percent'
Scandinavian workers realized that, electoral “democracy” was stacked against them, so nonviolent direct action was needed to exert the power for change.
January 29, 2012 |

While many of us are working to ensure that the Occupy movement will have a lasting impact, it’s worthwhile to consider other countries where masses of people succeeded in nonviolently bringing about a high degree of democracy and economic justice. Sweden and Norway, for example, both experienced a major power shift in the 1930s after prolonged nonviolent struggle. They “fired” the top 1 percent of people who set the direction for society and created the basis for something different.

Both countries had a history of horrendous poverty. When the 1 percent was in charge, hundreds of thousands of people emigrated to avoid starvation. Under the leadership of the working class, however, both countries built robust and successful economies that nearly eliminated poverty, expanded free university education, abolished slums, provided excellent health care available to all as a matter of right and created a system of full employment. Unlike the Norwegians, the Swedes didn’t find oil, but that didn’t stop them from building what the latest CIA World Factbook calls “an enviable standard of living.”

Neither country is a utopia, as readers of the crime novels by Stieg Larsson, Kurt Wallender and Jo Nesbo will know. Critical left-wing authors such as these try to push Sweden and Norway to continue on the path toward more fully just societies. However, as an American activist who first encountered Norway as a student in 1959 and learned some of its language and culture, the achievements I found amazed me. I remember, for example, bicycling for hours through a small industrial city, looking in vain for substandard housing. Sometimes resisting the evidence of my eyes, I made up stories that “accounted for” the differences I saw: “small country,” “homogeneous,” “a value consensus.” I finally gave up imposing my frameworks on these countries and learned the real reason: their own histories.

Then I began to learn that the Swedes and Norwegians paid a price for their standards of living through nonviolent struggle. There was a time when Scandinavian workers didn’t expect that the electoral arena could deliver the change they believed in. They realized that, with the 1 percent in charge, electoral “democracy” was stacked against them, so nonviolent direct action was needed to exert the power for change.

In both countries, the troops were called out to defend the 1 percent; people died. Award-winning Swedish filmmaker Bo Widerberg told the Swedish story vividly in Ådalen 31, which depicts the strikers killed in 1931 and the sparking of a nationwide general strike. (You can read more about this case in an entry by Max Rennebohm in the Global Nonviolent Action Database.)

The Norwegians had a harder time organizing a cohesive people’s movement because Norway’s small population—about three million—was spread out over a territory the size of Britain. People were divided by mountains and fjords, and they spoke regional dialects in isolated valleys. In the nineteenth century, Norway was ruled by Denmark and then by Sweden; in the context of Europe Norwegians were the “country rubes,” of little consequence. Not until 1905 did Norway finally become independent.

When workers formed unions in the early 1900s, they generally turned to Marxism, organizing for revolution as well as immediate gains. They were overjoyed by the overthrow of the czar in Russia, and the Norwegian Labor Party joined the Communist International organized by Lenin. Labor didn’t stay long, however. One way in which most Norwegians parted ways with Leninist strategy was on the role of violence: Norwegians wanted to win their revolution through collective nonviolent struggle, along with establishing co-ops and using the electoral arena.

In the 1920s strikes increased in intensity. The town of Hammerfest formed a commune in 1921, led by workers councils; the army intervened to crush it. The workers’ response verged toward a national general strike. The employers, backed by the state, beat back that strike, but workers erupted again in the ironworkers’ strike of 1923–24.

The Norwegian 1 percent decided not to rely simply on the army; in 1926 they formed a social movement called the Patriotic League, recruiting mainly from the middle class. By the 1930s, the League included as many as 100,000 people for armed protection of strike breakers—this in a country of only 3 million!

The Labor Party, in the meantime, opened its membership to anyone, whether or not in a unionized workplace. Middle-class Marxists and some reformers joined the party. Many rural farm workers joined the Labor Party, as well as some small landholders. Labor leadership understood that in a protracted struggle, constant outreach and organizing was needed to a nonviolent campaign. In the midst of the growing polarization, Norway’s workers launched another wave of strikes and boycotts in 1928.

The Depression hit bottom in 1931. More people were jobless there than in any other Nordic country. Unlike in the U.S., the Norwegian union movement kept the people thrown out of work as members, even though they couldn’t pay dues. This decision paid off in mass mobilizations. When the employers’ federation locked employees out of the factories to try to force a reduction of wages, the workers fought back with massive demonstrations.

Many people then found that their mortgages were in jeopardy. (Sound familiar?) The Depression continued, and farmers were unable to keep up payment on their debts. As turbulence hit the rural sector, crowds gathered nonviolently to prevent the eviction of families from their farms. The Agrarian Party, which included larger farmers and had previously been allied with the Conservative Party, began to distance itself from the 1 percent; some could see that the ability of the few to rule the many was in doubt.

By 1935, Norway was on the brink. The Conservative-led government was losing legitimacy daily; the 1 percent became increasingly desperate as militancy grew among workers and farmers. A complete overthrow might be just a couple years away, radical workers thought. However, the misery of the poor became more urgent daily, and the Labor Party felt increasing pressure from its members to alleviate their suffering, which it could do only if it took charge of the government in a compromise agreement with the other side.

This it did. In a compromise that allowed owners to retain the right to own and manage their firms, Labor in 1935 took the reins of government in coalition with the Agrarian Party. They expanded the economy and started public works projects to head toward a policy of full employment that became the keystone of Norwegian economic policy. Labor’s success and the continued militancy of workers enabled steady inroads against the privileges of the 1 percent, to the point that majority ownership of all large firms was taken by the public interest. (There is an entry on this case as well at the Global Nonviolent Action Database.)

The 1 percent thereby lost its historic power to dominate the economy and society. Not until three decades later could the Conservatives return to a governing coalition, having by then accepted the new rules of the game, including a high degree of public ownership of the means of production, extremely progressive taxation, strong business regulation for the public good and the virtual abolition of poverty. When Conservatives eventually tried a fling with neoliberal policies, the economy generated a bubble and headed for disaster. (Sound familiar?)

Labor stepped in, seized the three largest banks, fired the top management, left the stockholders without a dime and refused to bail out any of the smaller banks. The well-purged Norwegian financial sector was not one of those countries that lurched into crisis in 2008; carefully regulated and much of it publicly owned, the sector was solid.

Although Norwegians may not tell you about this the first time you meet them, the fact remains that their society’s high level of freedom and broadly-shared prosperity began when workers and farmers, along with middle class allies, waged a nonviolent struggle that empowered the people to govern for the common good.
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Bruce Dazzling » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:15 am

Breitbart must live under a bridge and eat billy goats.

Gah!

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Re: Site Activity: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Allegro » Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:40 am

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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Allegro » Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:10 am

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You might want to turn down your speakers should you click on the image or the text link. Once you do, sounds of protestors begin almost immediately, without alert.

The audio below is a point of view by interviewee, Ibrahim Abdallah, a marketer in NYC.

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An Egyptian View of Occupy Wall Street
— By The World ⋅ November 15, 2011

    Anchor Marco Werman talks to Ibrahim Abdallah, an Egyptian-born businessman who lives in New York City.

    Abdallah spent three days on Tahrir square in Cairo last February during the Arab Spring protests.

    He also visited the Occupy Wall Street protests in New York.

    He says the movement’s lack of clear goals may be causing its demise.

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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Elvis » Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:40 am





Good.


UC Davis students sue over pepper spraying by campus police

February 22, 2012 | 12:12 pm

Three months after being pepper sprayed or allegedly roughed up by UC Davis campus police during a demonstration, 19 students and alumni filed a federal lawsuit Wednesday claiming their free-speech rights were violated.

The suit names UC Davis Chancellor Linda Katehi as a defendant, along with several other campus administrators and campus police officers. It details allegations against campus Police Lt. John Pike, who the suit says sprayed the seated or crouching protesters at a distance of one to two feet, causing burning pain to their eyes and faces.

The students are seeking financial damages and policy changes in how UC handles protests.

“Our goal in this lawsuit is to ensure the university makes a clear commitment to protect free speech on campus and prevent this from ever happening again,” said Michael Risher, a staff attorney with American Civil Liberties Union Foundation of Northern California, which is helping to represent the students.

The case was filed in U.S. District Court’s Eastern District of California and is expected to be heard in a Sacramento court.

UC Davis spokesman Barry Schiller released a statement saying campus attorneys and students’ lawyers have been talking.

“We hope those conversations continue. In the meantime, we’ve not seen the lawsuit and therefore aren’t in a position to comment on details,” he said.

The Nov. 18 pepper spray incident attracted much national attention through an online video of the event. It sparked debate throughout the UC system and is being investigated by a UC panel headed by former state Supreme Court Justice Cruz Reynoso.


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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby beeline » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:28 pm

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All 10 Occupy Philly defendants acquitted
By Miriam Hill

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In the first full trials resulting from arrests during Occupy Philadelphia, all 10 defendants were acquitted Thursday on charges of obstructing a highway during an Oct. 23 protest outside Philadelphia police headquarters.

"I think the judge was recognizing the validity of their expression of First Amendment rights," said lawyer Paul Hetznecker, who represented several of the Occupy protesters who appeared in Municipal Court before Judge Patrick Dugan.

The sit-in on 8th Street near Race Street began Saturday Oct. 22 as people gathered to protest police brutality nationwide. The confrontation lasted overnight and as noon approached on Sunday, Bill Fisher, who heads the civil affairs unit for the police department, warned the protesters three times that they would be arrested if they did not leave the street.

The protesters, chanting, "We are peaceful protesters," stayed put and were arrested. A video of the arrests was shown as evidence.

Larry Krasner, who also represented several defendants, said that the law recognizes that exercising free speech may cause inconvenience, including slowing down traffic. Vehicles were diverted around that portion of 8th Street during the sit-in.

But Krasner noted that Mummers parades and many other events cause the same challenges.

"Our position was that freedom is inconvenient, and it's inconvenient in a lot of ways," he said, "but it's also reasonable that it be inconvenient."

No one from the district attorney's office was immediately available for comment.

Krasner said 45 more people await trial on arrests resulting from Occupy activities.
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby eyeno » Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:01 am

Occupy London: police move in to evict St Paul’s protesters


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Dozens of police moved in to clear protester’s tents from the steps of St Paul’s Cathedral last night, breaking up a camp which has lasted more than 100 days.

By James Orr

More than 40 bailiffs also arrived to dismantle the controversial site in the heart of the city of London.

The removal of “tents and equipment” came after protesters lost their court battle to continue with their campaign against corporate greed.

The activists, who were largely peaceful as officers moved in, were told that although they had a right to protest they were blocking a public highway and must leave.

One protester, called Edwin, described the scene as police moved in shortly after 12.30am. Only a few dozen activists appeared to be at the site. He said: “I am a new member. I didn’t know the eviction was happening.

“There are over 100 bailiffs and police here. Word on the ground is that they can’t forcefully evict protesters. All they can do is taker away the tents.

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Re: Suits : #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Allegro » Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:19 am

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I don’t know whether to take this suit business with a grain of salt. Anyone know?

    Suits for Wall Street
    — In the Battle of Ideas, Aesthetics Matter
    published 4 months ago Fri, Oct 7, 2011 11:57am EST

    Occupy Wall Street is a lot of things. But at the core it’s a conversation — a conversation about tactics, a conversation about democracy, a conversation about in what kind of world we want to live.

    For a successful conversation, parameters are defined, topics delineated. The consensus-building at Zuccotti Park works on this, slowly, methodically, setting the stage for further action.

    It’s a lot of talk, and a lot of effort, but, for a lot of people, it just doesn’t matter.

    Why? Because to them we look like a bunch of dirty hippies.

    Conversation: Over.

    We Propose a Solution: Suits

    We all look great in suits. To reporters, to workers, to skeptical tourists, we’ll look like people to listen to, or, at the very least, to hear out. Lazy journalists won’t be able to easily dismiss us and will have to actually listen to what we say. The conversation will grow out of the echo chamber and into the wider world — where it belongs.

    Suits are camouflage in the warrens of Wall Street. And there are other advantages.

    Need a bathroom? Try wearing a suit. It’s easy.

    Want to walk past a police barricade? Put on a suit.

    Let’s Show Them We’re Serious

    In the 1960s you could fly your freak flag high. In 2011, it just looks sloppy. We are the 99 percent, but we need the support of the 60 percent who think we’re just messing around.

    On October 15, our crack team of well dressed artists, designers, and wardrobers will deliver racks and racks of business attire, free of charge to anyone at Liberty Square. We’ll be joined by progressive tailors, radical barbers, and folks who want everyone to look great.

    The way you say it matters as much as what you say. So say it in style. Say it in a suit.

    What We Need and What You Get

    You can help us realize this vision with your donations. Twenty dollars will put a protester in a crisp thrift store suit.

    Or mail us a nice suit you’re not using anymore. It’s free if you mail it from work. Here’s our address:

    Proper Business Attire Working Group
    C/O The House of Yes
    342 Maujer Street
    Brooklyn, NY
    11206

    Extra suits and late deliveries will be donated to Threads for Success, an innovative New York City program that dresses young people in the justice system for court appearances and job interviews.

    Let’s get organized.
    Look sharp. The whole world is watching.
    Other Ways You Can Help
    Post our campaign to anyone who needs to see it.
    And straighten your tie.

    Also Find This Campaign on:
    indiegogo.com/Wall-Suits
    suitsforwallstreet.org/
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby crikkett » Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:00 am

Great idea. Suits are the West's great equalizer. Every protester should have a couple. Cops wouldn't know what to do with themselves (trained to respect suits)
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Allegro » Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:50 am

crikkett wrote:Great idea. Suits are the West's great equalizer. Every protester should have a couple. Cops wouldn't know what to do with themselves (trained to respect suits)
crikkett, I guess if I were a protester in the streets, I’d sure want to blend in, I think. If representing a general assembly, that could be a different matter. Suits then might be helpful depending on whom we were planning to meet with. Now that I think about it—here I am talking about protesting in a suit as if I had some idea how it feels to be an actual protester—I would not at all feel comfortable protesting or ranting in a reasonable manner with Bank of America’s Wall Street representative or any bank representative without wearing a suit. Then, again, what do I know. Those representatives sure as hell better like my tie, :lol: though!
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Allegro » Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:13 am

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    I Occupy Wall Street | an unidentified rapper?
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    Occupy Wall Street Song | Rya Fraser

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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Elvis » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:16 am




Suits are camouflage in the warrens of Wall Street.


I've proposed this before, I think it's a great idea (naturally), and for all the reasons listed in the article. Some folks think it's a cave-in to conformity, but it's a tactic. And like the writer said, "we all look great in suits."

I was wearing a tweed sport jacket (the one I wear every day) and button-down shirt (no tie) the first time I wandered into the Occupy Seattle encampment and asked a young man where to deliver food donations etc. The kid at first just looked at me for a long moment, probably thinking, "Sure, cop---right over there." Actually I think he ascertained that I was "OK" but that long look rankled me a little, as if I was expected to conform to his dress style. It works the other way, too, though.

I think the moths might have eaten my last actual complete suit, I need to go through the closet and see what's left. My lengthy hippie-hair might be a giveaway but the hair stays.
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Nordic » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:32 am

I think it's a great idea, although I would never do it myself. I would expect to die of anaphylactic shock if I donned a suit.

It's always good to throw them off and fuck with their expectations.
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Laodicean » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:48 am

Leaked Documents: Homeland Security Monitoring Occupy Wall Street

BY ALLISON KILKENNY

Rolling Stone's Michael Hastings last night posted a story on an internal DHS report entitled "SPECIAL COVERAGE: Occupy Wall Street," dated October of last year. The five-page report, part of five million newly leaked documents obtained by Wikileaks, sums up the history of the movement and assesses its "impact" on the financial services and government facilities.

In an interview on Citizen Radio, Hastings talked about the monitoring by DHS and also the leaked emails from Stratfor, a leading private intelligence firm Hastings describes as the "shadow CIA."

The process of combing through the huge amount of leaked documents has only just begun, but Hastings considers the revelation that the government was keeping tabs on OWS to be the biggest news so far to come out of the latest dump.

The monitoring, or spying (depending on how generous one is feeling), process included DHS scouring OWS-related Twitter feeds.

"[DHS] was following all of the social networking activity that was going on among Occupy Wall Street," says Hastings. "Now, I'm sure this is going to be spun tomorrow as this continues to grow that, oh, it's just benign, DHS just used open source material to do this, and that's true, but the question is: why is a large government bureaucracy who's mandated to protect the homeland…monitoring very closely a peaceful political protest movement? They're not monitoring the Democratic National Committee, they're not monitoring Young Republican meetings. They're monitoring Occupy Wall Street."

The report emphasizes the need to "control protesters," terminology Hastings finds troubling, along with DHS's assertion that OWS will likely become more violent. Hastings calls that prediction "quite a leap," as there is no evidence so far that the overwhelmingly peaceful movement is prone to become violent.

"[The report] names all the sort of groups [DHS is] worried about, one being Anonymous, this hacktivist group, but it also names the other people in Occupy Wall Street: labor unions, student groups," Hastings says.

One might expect to read some hand-wringing over public safety concerns in a government document, and yet the DHS document appears to be more concerned with protecting the mechanisms of the financial sector than in ensuring the safety of citizens who are exercising their First Amendment rights.

"They talk about threats to 'critical infrastructure' and this fear that these protests are going to…make commerce difficult and people are going to start losing money. There is a kind of bottom line in analysis to what they're talking about. There isn't an emphasis on public safety in a way one would expect from a department that's supposed to protect the homeland. It's this sort of sense that they're protecting somebody's homeland, and they're the folks who generally make all the money."

This same business-over-people bias is present in the second major leak involving the Stratfor emails. "When you go look at the back-and-forth, it's all about, well, we have to protect lower Manhattan so the bankers can get to work on time."

Hastings talks about two troubling tracks: In the DHS case, the U.S. government monitoring activist groups, and in the Stratfor case, large corporations paying a private intelligence firm to monitor other activist groups.

Dow Chemicals had Stratfor analyze the activities of Bhopal activists such as the Yes Men, who famously pranked the company by impersonating a Dow Chemical executive and publicly apologizing on the BBC for the Bhopal disaster that killed 8,000 people.

The list of Stratfor's corporate clients is an impressive one, including Dow Chemicals and Coca-Cola. Clients are willing to pay the firm $40,000 for a subscription to Stratfor's services (and additional huge sums of money for more services,) because the company bills itself as a private CIA, privy to high-level intelligence access.

"You have the DOW Chemicals situation, you have Coca-Cola hiring Stratfor to go after animal rights activists, to sort of keep tabs on them, and then also the question is: why would Stratfor have this Department of Homeland Security document, right? And the answer to that is Stratfor's clients, or clearly Stratfor saw a business opportunity in keeping track, and figuring out how to handle protesters. In fact, in the email record…they're talking about different tactics in lower Manhattan about, well, the streets are narrow down there, so if they push the protesters this way, or that way, that's a better way to catch them. They're drilling down into the best ways to kind of protect the financial services who are some of their clients."

On Jan. 26, 2011, Fred Burton, the vice president of Stratfor, fired off an excited email to his colleagues: "Text Not for Pub. We have a sealed indictment on Assange. Pls protect."

The question was: who did Burton mean by "we"?

"It's like the Big Lebowski, right? The royal We," says Hastings.

What Burton meant by "we" was the U.S. government.

"We know that the Department of Justice had been investigating Assange, and playing this game of oftentimes not explicitly saying what they were doing, but sort of threatening they would be doing this espionage investigation. We know that they've interviewed people in a grand jury, and then a few weeks ago with the Bradley Manning pre-trial that they were actually trying to make this espionage case against Assange," says Hastings. "Burton claims that there in fact a secret U.S. indictment against Assange related, essentially, to espionage. That's pretty big news."

Hastings is braced for all of the typically condescending and dismissive remarks to come rolling in from the beltway in the wake of these latest leaks. In fact, the derision has already begun. One editor at The Atlantic called Wikileaks "a joke," and dismissed the Stratfor emails out of hand.

Hastings expects others to say there's no difference between a private intelligence firm and a newspaper or news bureau.

"I think that's totally wrong. Journalists have sources and informants, but also our mission is to share that information with the public so the citizenry can make more informed decisions. Stratfor's mission is to gather information so it can sell it to the highest bidder so corporations can essentially make more profit and get a competitive edge on their opponents," he says.

That kind of knee-jerk dismissiveness strikes of bad journalism, according to Hastings. While no cheerleader for Wikileaks – during the interview, Hastings admitted there's a lot of stuff one can criticize Wikileaks about, particularly the practice of releasing large amounts of data that hasn't been reviewed very carefully – he still finds the overall work done by the group extremely newsworthy.

"What news organization has had a bigger impact than Wikileaks? Iraq war logs, Afghan war logs, the Cablegate. These are important stories. This is news. DHS was monitoring Occupy Wall Street. That's a story, and it's a significant story. We're talking about Occupy Wall Street: one of the biggest grassroots, political movements that we've seen in a generation and the government's response to that."

One of the most worrying aspects to the Stratfor story is the privatizing of yet another typically goverment-only function. Like Blackwater, here is another shadowy private agency doing the work usually done by the U.S. government, a recipe, as we've learned time and time again, for unaccountability and disaster.

Also, Stratfor is ripe for the revolving door effect.

"It's a chance for people who worked in government in these various intelligence agencies to, once they leave, to have lucrative positions where they're able to -- in the same way some politicians become lobbyists to ply off their old contacts -- to have these great, well-paying positions where they can use their former intelligence contacts and sell their services in the corporate world," says Hastings.

To naysayers claiming there's nothing wrong with former government officials capitalizing on their particular skill sets, Hastings responds, "Once you start spying on activists, and peaceful protesters, then I would say that's very troubling."


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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Project Willow » Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:12 am

Suits can be sexy, it depends on the wearer.

Elvis, I do believe your hair would cancel out your suit. If you put it in a pony tail, you'd look like a local defense attorney.
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