Anti-Imperialism & Anti-Humanist Rhetoric of Gilad Atzmon

[Searcher08]

WGUDN? I have searched Google and urbandictionary for that with no results. Please explain

You're not really this dense, are you?

APPARENTLY YES!!!


'It was right in front of his face all along' Classic!

[Wombaticus Rex]

I don't get "WGUDN" either.

[Searcher08]

I don't get "WGUDN" either.

You're not really this dense, are you?

[JackRiddler]

Searcher said something ridiculous:

I have not read much of Atzmon, but he really does get up the noses of people like Alan Dershowitz.

Ridiculous, why? Because this is a ridiculous criterion for approving of a writer you admittedly "have not read much."

So I made fun of this:

WGUDN, that's all we need ever ask: What gets up Dershowitz's nose?

Which apparently is too sophisticated, or unforgivably obtuse.

At any rate, it's irrelevant. I should learn by now not to make jokes.

Here is what is relevant:

I thought the article didn't seem to focus much on what he was saying, but more on how he was bad because bad people liked him.

Relevant, because it's an incredible, evasive, and almost certainly dishonest statement.

Why?

Which is to say, you either didn't read [the OP] at all or failed to notice that 2/3 of it consists of direct quotes from Atzmon, properly cited and in context.

So which is it? Either Searcher08 didn't read the OP, but sees fit to respond to it with a false characterization that ignores the rap on Atzmon, delivered in Atzmon's own words.

Or Searcher08 is intentionally misrepresenting what the article says.

The article quotes Atzmon liberally and in context, revealing that his ideology with respect to Jews (and I don't care whether or not he is one himself) is the same one found in the Protocols, The International Jew, and Mein Kampf.

Some of these quotes make clear Atzmon is not a denier of the Nazi holocaust, but an apologist for it. Others are classic tropes from Jewish world conspiracy theories, e.g. blaming Jews for communism as well as Zionism. (Presumably he won't be blaming them for the degenerate art of jazz music, since he has actually made his name as a jazz musician. Which makes one wonder whether this is his idea of performance art?)

This is not "association" with "bad people." It is equivalence. Atzmon in his own words espouses the same essential thesis about Jews per se that the Protocols and the books by Ford and Hitler also espouse. This is demonstrated by the Atzmon quotes in the OP, which are apparently invisible to Searcher08.

Now Atzmon's free to do that, and maybe he's a great guy otherwise, but if he had any interest in supporting the Palestinian cause he wouldn't be serving up such poison pills, and those who do have an interest in that cause shouldn't be giving him any platforms. Thus the list of signatories to the OP.

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[Searcher08]

JR This is just a drive by. I think that what was intended as not much more than a light-hearted bit of humour about an author of whom I think I read two articles, one of which was about how much he annoyed Alan Dershowitz. A Good Thing.
Yes, I did skim read it but I read the association argument and went Meh..
You are responding to me as a barrister doing a demolition job, when it frankly given my knowledge of Atzmon, its a waste of your dynamite.

[JackRiddler]

JR This is just a drive by. I think that what was intended as not much more than a light-hearted bit of humour about an author of whom I think I read two articles, one of which was about how much he annoyed Alan Dershowitz. A Good Thing.
Yes, I did skim read it but I read the association argument and went Meh..
You are responding to me as a barrister doing a demolition job, when it frankly given my knowledge of Atzmon, its a waste of your dynamite.

Lame.

[Searcher08]

JR This is just a drive by. I think that what was intended as not much more than a light-hearted bit of humour about an author of whom I think I read two articles, one of which was about how much he annoyed Alan Dershowitz. A Good Thing.
Yes, I did skim read it but I read the association argument and went Meh..
You are responding to me as a barrister doing a demolition job, when it frankly given my knowledge of Atzmon, its a waste of your dynamite.

Lame.

'Lame'?????

Why are you suddenly a snarkfest around me?
JR, we have always in the past been really civil and friendly, even though we have different views about lots of things, but we have both been here for years... and my biggest annoyance with you has been you were not broadcasting your writing to a wider audience! Over the last while however you seem really majorly fucked off with me, to the point where it seems everything I write gets it from you.

[Wombaticus Rex]

Dude, you HAVE to explain WGUDN, I told some of the homies here in the studio about it and now everyone is obsessing over this. Please, tell us what it means!

[norton ash]

This is just sad. I'd like to buy a vowel, Pat.

Wh_t G_ts _p D_rsh_witz's N_se.

[seemslikeadream]

I want this thread locked...should be easy happening all the time around here lately

it is a spawn of the thread that shall not be named....all other threads that spewed from there should be locked like ALL the rest

[Searcher08]

Dude, you HAVE to explain WGUDN, I told some of the homies here in the studio about it and now everyone is obsessing over this. Please, tell us what it means!

WGUDN is perhaps an example of MAOARI-FOYF - it can easily happen that one can miss an obvious acronym right in front of your face.


Oh and I agree with slad, I think this thread needs to be locked.

[crikkett]

Last one to post wins!

[JackRiddler]

Oh and I agree with slad, I think this thread needs to be locked.

Yes, it's important to hide away illustrations of how certain people can fail to see the obvious in front of their nose, which isn't that "WGUDN" was defined on the same line wherein I first coined it, but that Atzmon often talks Nazi trash, as the quotes from his writings (which certain people have also failed to see constitute most of the OP) demonstrate. And if you're going to make excuses for that, and be called on it, then claiming you didn't read any of this thread is a lame defense.

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[seemslikeadream]

yea Jack show me where he's denied 7 million dead Indians...fuck that

I keep asking the question...no one will answer

[JackRiddler]

yea Jack show me where he's denied 7 million dead Indians...fuck that

I keep asking the question...no one will answer

Who denied dead Indians? Who denied anything? No one likes answering loaded questions, or questions that make no sense in context.

And no, this thread should not be locked.