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Re: Feds Ordering California Medical Marijuana To Close Down

Postby wordspeak2 » Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:41 am

The latest L.A. Times story on the ASA lawsuit ends saying that ASA's lawyer, Joe Elford, expects the case to go to SCOTUS. I'm not so sure about that- SCOTUS already saw a similar case several years ago and ruled in the feds' favor- but it would be interesting. Though the 5-4 fascist majority on the Court pretty much rules out any good verdicts ever.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me ... 7743.story
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Re: Could cannabis actually lower chance of infant mortality

Postby crikkett » Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:28 pm

(is there a better place for this?)

I only could get the abstract, but unless I am reading this wrong somehow, it is a total mind-blower! (And it ain't easy to blow Granny's mind! amim.smiley.gif )

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/c ... type=HWCIT

PEDIATRICS Vol. 100 No. 1 July 1997, pp. 79-83
Mortality Within the First 2 Years in Infants Exposed to Cocaine, Opiate, or Cannabinoid During Gestation


Received Jul 26, 1996; accepted Nov 14, 1996.

Enrique M. Ostrea Jr*, Anthony R. Ostrea*, and Pippa M. Simpson From the * Department of Pediatrics, Hutzel Hospital, Children's Hospital of Michigan and Wayne State University, Detroit, Michigan.

Objective. To determine the mortality rate, during the first 2 years of life, in infants who were exposed to cocaine, opiate, orcannabinoidduring gestation.

Methods. For a period of 11 months, a large group of infants were enrolled and screened at birth for exposure to cocaine, opiate, or cannabinoid by meconium analysis. Death outcome, within the first 2 years after birth, was determined in this group of infants using the death registry of the Michigan Department of Public Health.

Results. A total of 2964 infants was studied. At birth, 44% of the infants tested positive for drugs: 30.5% positive for cocaine, 20.2% for opiate, and 11.4% for cannabinoids. Compared to the drug negative group, a significantly higher percentage (P < .05) of the drug positive infants had lower weight and smaller head circumference and length at birth and a higher percent of their mothers were single, multigravid, multiparous, and had little to no prenatal care. Within the first 2 years of life, 44 infants died: 26 were drug negative (15.7 deaths per 1000 live births) and 18 were drug positive (13.7 deaths per 1000 live births). The mortality rate among cocaine, opiate, or cannabinoid positive infants were 17.7, 18.4, and 8.9 per 1000 live births, respectively. (emphasis mine- Granny) Among infants with birth weight http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/m ... le.gif2500 g, infants who were positive for both cocaine and morphine had a higher mortality rate (odds ratio = 5.9, confidence interval [CI] = 1.4 to 24) than drug negative infants. Eleven infants died from the sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS); 58% were positive for drugs, predominantly cocaine. The odds ratio for SIDS among drug positive infants was 1.5 (CI = 0.46 to 5.01) and 1.9 (CI = 0.58 to 6.2) among cocaine positive infants.

Conclusion. We conclude that prenatal drug exposure in infants, although associated with a high perinatal morbidity, is not associated with an overall increase in their mortality rate or incidence of SIDS during the first 2 years of life. However, a significantly higher mortality rate was observed among low birth weight infants (http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/m ... le.gif2500 g) who were positive for both cocaine and opiate.




OK, folks, here's the nitty-gritty- deaths per 1,000.

Total deaths -.............. 44

Drug negative deaths- ... 26....... 15.7 deaths per 1000 live births

All drug positive deaths-.. 18....... 13.7 deaths per 1000 live births

Cocaine positive deaths-.. __ .......17.7 deaths per 1000 live births

Opiate positive deaths-..... __ .......18.4 deaths per 1000 live births

Cannabinoid positive deaths-.__..... 8.9 deaths per 1000 live births


The only reason that the "drug baby" group had a lower mortality rate than the "drug free" babies, was the cannabis group! Opiate and cocaine deaths were higher than the "drug free" group- as you would expect. :frown: But look at cannabis! Almost a 50% reduction in mortality compared to the "drug free" babies! So, do you think that using cannabis might actually be good for your baby's survival?

Think of the children!

(It's just so cool when you can turn a prohib "war cry" against them! :frown: )


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Re: Feds Ordering California Medical Marijuana To Close Down

Postby Gnomad » Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:59 am

There is my old thread "Cannabis research, medicine and use" which has a similar study regarding a mothers use of alcohol, tobacco and cannabis during pregnancy (similar in that it shows no ill effects from mothers use of cannabis, completely at odds with the other substances), among others.

I posted dozens of studies on its medical effects, mostly about its anti-cancer properties which have been been kept surprisingly well from receiving widespread attention, when normally any advance regarding cancers is publicized quite well!
viewtopic.php?f=33&t=23504 in the Data Dump section

Edit:
Posted your quote there as well, thanks.
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Re: Feds Ordering California Medical Marijuana To Close Down

Postby Bruce Dazzling » Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:46 pm

Here's a recent drug legalization debate between Glenn Greenwald and John P. Walters (former Bush drug czar).

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Re: Feds Ordering California Medical Marijuana To Close Down

Postby elfismiles » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:23 pm

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Daly City voted to ban medical marijuana dispensaries, in part because delivery options exist.

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Re: Feds Ordering California Medical Marijuana To Close Down

Postby wordspeak2 » Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:17 am

Stupid "Tacocopter" story. Here's the latest in medical marijuana news around the country, for anyone interested:

http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/201 ... ana_update

Arkansas

Signature gathering is underway for a proposed medical marijuana initiative sponsored by Arkansans for Compassionate Care. The initiative would allow patients with serious or debilitating medical conditions to use and possess marijuana and to purchase it from state-regulated, nonprofit dispensaries. Patients could grow their own if they live more than five miles from a dispensary. The campaign needs to gather 65,000 valid voter signatures by July to make the November ballot.

California

Last Tuesday, the Richmond city council voted to double the number of dispensaries in the city. The council approved an ordinance allowing up to six dispensaries, or one for every 17,000 residents. Oakland, by contrast, only allows one for every 50,000 residents. Right now, though, even the three dispensaries already permitted haven't opened.

Last Wednesday, the LAPD raided the Nature's Answer dispensary in Reseda, seizing 50 pounds of pot and $17,000 in cash. Owner Annie Bishop was arrested for possession for sales of marijuana. They also raided her home in Van Nuys. LAPD is taking the position that medical marijuana sales are illegal.

Last Thursday, DEA and local police raided a Temecula dispensary, the Co-Op Social Club. The raid came just days after the DEA raided another Riverside County dispensary, the Greenhouse Cannabis Club in Murrieta. That same day, the DEA raided a Lake Elsinore medical marijuana grow-op, the Consolidated Container Nursery as part of the same investigation.

That same day, two men struck a plea bargain over their role in the North Bay Dispensary in Newark. The dispensary was raided by the DEA last year, but the pair copped to state charges and received jail sentences of one and five days, which they already served after being arrested. Charges against three dispensary employees were dropped. Meanwhile, a civil dispute between the NBD Collective and the city of Newark, which started almost as soon as the club opened in 2009, is still ongoing.

Also last Thursday, the UFCW announced it was unionizing Los Angeles dispensary workers. "This is the next step in professionalizing and stabilizing this new sector of the health care industry," said Local 770 president Rick Icaza in a press release. "Unionization and collective bargaining bring better training, less turnover, and more stability to the health care industry. This is a positive step towards successfully integrating compassionate care into our system of health care."

Last Friday, signature gathering began for an Imperial Beach initiative, the Safe Access Ordinance, which would overturn the city's current ban on dispensaries and replace it with zoning and other regulations for dispensing collectives and cooperatives wishing to operate in the city. The move comes after more than two years of tussles with the city, which has adopted an outright ban on dispensaries. The initiative is a joint effort of Canvass for a Cause, Americans for Safe Access, and concerned citizens in Imperial Beach. Organizers need 1,000 valid signatures to get on the ballot and hope to collect 2,000.

On Sunday, California NORML reported that Assemblywoman Nora Campos (D-San Jose) had introduced a bill, Assembly Bill 2465, which would require all medical marijuana patients to register with the state. The bill is sponsored by the Police Officers' Research Association of California, which wants to make it easier for police to distinguish between illegal and legal marijuana users. California NORML strongly opposes the bill, saying it infringes on patients' right under Prop 215 to legally possess and cultivate marijuana given a physician's written OR oral recommendation.

On Tuesday, the Redding city council vote not to appeal a judge's ruling that rejected the city's request for a preliminary injunction on medical marijuana storefront collectives. That means dispensaries can continue to operate in the Shasta County community. Redding's elected officials have said they were surprised and confused by Shasta County Superior Court Judge Stephen Baker's decision, handed down late last Wednesday.

Also on Tuesday, the Daly City city council voted to ban dispensaries, with Councilman David Canepa saying he'd allow the clubs over his "dead body." Council members cited a report from Police Chief Manuel Martinez that noted the city has a problem with illegal indoor pot grows.

Also on Tuesday, a Santa Monica marijuana testing facility filed a lawsuit against the city to force it to give it a business license, which it has so far refused to do. Golden State Collective, the testing firm, applied for a business license in December, but was turned down even though it is not a dispensary. The facility opened this month, but closed again after being informed it could be fined.

Colorado

Last Friday, US Attorney John Walsh sent threat letters to 25 more dispensaries. In January, he sent out 23 threat letters, forcing those dispensaries to close. The latest targets have 45 days to close or face the seizure of their property. And there will be more to come, Walsh's office said.

Michigan

Last weekend, the second annual Detroit Medical Marijuana Expo took place, drawing more than 130 vendors and large crowds.

On Wednesday, the Michigan Supreme Court agreed to decide a key issue in conflicts over the state's medical marijuana law: whether patients can sell marijuana to other patients. The case involves the Compassionate Apothecary in Mt. Pleasant, which was targeted by prosecutors in 2010. A lower court found that sales were permitted, but an appeals court disagreed, leading to the closing of the dispensary and many others around the state after the ruling.

Montana

Last Friday, medical marijuana providers targeted by the DEA in raids last year said they would appeal a federal district court ruling dismissing their challenge to those raids. More than a dozen providers, as well as the Montana Cannabis Industry Association, challenged the legality of the federal enforcement operations, but suffered a defeat in January, when US District Judge Donald Molloy, citing the 2005 Raich decision by the US Supreme Court, ruled that state law does not shield providers from federal prosecution. Their appeal goes to the 9th US Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco.

On Tuesday, another medical marijuana provider pleaded guilty in federal court to charges stemming from the DEA raids of March 2011. Christopher Ryan Durbin of Whitefish operated several medical marijuana businesses, including Good Medicine Providers and a pair of large warehouse grows. DEA agents made undercover buys at Good Medicine and seized more than 1,000 plants at the warehouses. Durbin copped to conspiracy to manufacture and distribute marijuana and structuring bank deposits to avoid IRS reporting requirements. He faces sentencing on June 29.

New Hampshire

On Tuesday, sponsors of a medical marijuana bill held a press conference to try to drum up a veto-proof Senate majority for the bill. State Sen. Jim Forsythe (R-Strafford) and state Rep. Evalyn Merrick (D-Lancaster) worry that Gov. John Lynch will veto the bill because of his historical opposition to such measures.

On Wednesday, the Senate passed the bill on a 13-11 vote. That's not enough to overcome a threatened veto, but the bill still has to go through the House, and that gives supporters time to try to pick up the handful of Senate votes they will need.

New Jersey

Last Friday, one of the nonprofit groups trying to set up a dispensary said it is giving up. The Greenleaf Compassion Center in Montclair is further along in the process than any of the other groups, but CEO Joe Stevens said he was put off by repeated delays and that he has no faith in state officials anymore. The state's law was passed more than two years ago, but none of the six dispensaries allowed by the law have opened, due to delays by the Christie administration and NIMBYism in local communities.

Rhode Island

On Wednesday, lawmakers were set to consider compromise dispensary legislation, House Bill 7888, that would allow the three state-designated outlets to open. Gov. Lincoln Chafee (I) blocked them last year after the state's US Attorney warned they could be prosecuted under federal law. The compromise would limit the amount of marijuana dispensaries could have, but that had advocates worried limits too low would make them economically unviable. Also getting a hearing Wednesday, are a pair of bills sponsored by Attorney General Peter Kilmartin, Senate Bill 2783 and its companion, House Bill 7960, that would impose various restrictions on the state program. Some medical marijuana proponents are cosponsoring the bills in a bid to get a say in their final forms. As of late Wednesday evening, there were no reports back from Providence.

Tennessee

On Tuesday, a medical marijuana bill advanced in the House. A House Health subcommittee approved House Bill 294 on a voice vote. It now goes before the whole House Health Committee. The bill would allow patients with specified diseases or conditions to use medical marijuana and would set up a state-regulated and -licensed distribution system. Its companion measure, SB 251, remains stuck in the Senate Government Operations Committee.

Washington

Last Friday, city of Issaquah planners approved a permit for the GreenLink Collective to open for business. The facility will process and deliver medical marijuana to qualified patients, offer classes and information, and sell supplies for people to produce and consume marijuana under a framework established by state law. GreenLink does not intend to grow marijuana in the space. State law allows up to 10 qualifying patients to join together and form a collective garden of up to 45 plants, so long as the marijuana is not visible from public spaces. GreenLink operators must also install a security system and cameras onsite. The collective first opened in 2010, but city officials refused to give it a business license, then, in June 2011, the city council imposed a moratorium on collective gardens. The council adopted new rules governing collectives in December, and now GreenLink has its permit.

Washington, DC

On Friday, DC is set to announce who will get the five marijuana cultivation permits for the city's long-awaited medical marijuana dispensaries. The city has authorized up to ten sites, but only five will be announced Friday.

West Virginia

Last Wednesday, the Marijuana Policy Project announced that a medical marijuana bill, House Bill 4498 had been denied a hearing in the House Health and Human Resources Committee. The bill's sponsor, Del. Mike Manypenny (D-Grafton) will attempt to keep the issue alive by offering a resolution, HCR 144, calling for the legislature to study medical marijuana more thoroughly.
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Re: Feds Ordering California Medical Marijuana To Close Down

Postby Nordic » Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:10 pm

Being a resident of Los Angeles with several dispensaries within walking distance of my house, I'd say its very suspicious how the LAPD is being so selective about which places it busts.

You know? Like maybe if you don't "cooperate" with them -- I.e. Pay them protection money (cough cough) you get taken down.

There sure seems to be no rhyme or reason as to which places they took down and which ones they allowed to stay open.

Oh and the thing about unionizing the workers. I'm all for unions but this seems almost silly in a way seeing as how these "health care providers" are usually hired not for their knowledge of the magic plant but for how young and sexy they look in a tight t-shirt. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Re: Feds Ordering California Medical Marijuana To Close Down

Postby wordspeak2 » Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:45 am

Yeah, I'm curious about how they choose which dispensaries to go after. Sometimes it's clear- the owner was overtly political, or a NoCal dispensary was so picturesque it had to be made an example of. But down in the jungle of L.A., with countless hundreds of pot shops? It obviously has to do with police relations, huh? Payoffs not made or... something like that. Owner pisses off some popos. I guess, huh? And I'm noting that sometimes it's the local police alone doing the raid, though most of the time it's DEA. I guess that gives us a clue as to the motive, at least in the cases in which the cops act alone.

Anyway, Nordic, you're our source on this from the belly of the beast. What's going on there? Are there still several dispensaries within walking distance of your house? I know you're not a user (you should work on that), but any noticeable changes in the past year, as the war has escalated dramatically? I was describing this situation to my grandma the other day as "low-intensity warfare," which is just what it is. I assume folks here are familiar with that term as used in conventional warfare. "A strategy of tension."

As far as unionization- I'd say all unionization is good. Why wouldn't they unionize? Yeah, I can imagine that workers are chosen more for their affability and California good looks than their demonstrable knowledge of the cannabis plant, but what retail outlet doesn't act like that? OK, maybe your point was they're not really "health care workers." You've got a point there. But it is part of the new "health care industry"... we should consider it such.
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Re: Feds Ordering California Medical Marijuana To Close Down

Postby Nordic » Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:38 pm

Well like I said (I think) there are still several within walking distance of my house, some of them kind of nice, and fairly obvious.

A few others disappeared at the time of the crackdown. They seemed to all be very new.

The crackdown seems to have seriously slowed down, and perhaps stopped, the proliferation of them. They were literally sprouting up like , well, weeds! It was kind of incredible really. Never saw anything quite like it before.

Also they seem less aggressive now. In particular there was a big one on the Venice Boardwalk that was really in-your-face back in the day, with hawkers out in the crowd holding up signs and chanting about how you could be getting high within 20 minutes of walking in (they had a Doctor on premises, one stop shopping). Last time I was down there a couple of weeks ago they were either gone or replaced by a business with a much lower profile (it was hard to tell which). In short if you want legal pot here its just as easy to get it as before as far as I can tell. What's funny is that some still oerating have a real shady, gangsterish vibe to them -- in particular there was one up in Hollywood where I was a couple of doors down to shooting a commercial all day long, and even at 6 am when we got there there were quite a few people lurking around in the shadows behind the place, wondering wtf we were doing there and giving some strong vibes of criminality. Other places have the really great earthy vibe you might feel at a plant nursery.

Anyway that's all anecdotal but that's my take on them here.
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Re: Feds Ordering California Medical Marijuana To Close Down

Postby wordspeak2 » Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:39 pm

Word, thanks. The criminality element probably often comes from growers. Since authorities have generally refused to distinguish between legal and illegal grows, it's pushed (kept) them underground, so that's still a very risky endeavor.
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Re: Feds Ordering California Medical Marijuana To Close Down

Postby alwyn » Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:49 pm

the growers aren't the criminals, well, the small ones, anyway. the middlemen, however....
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Re: Feds Ordering California Medical Marijuana To Close Down

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:50 pm

The domestic agenda of keeping the most common illegal drug...illegal-
> promoting risk-taking that serves military recruiting
> keeping prices up to fuel military-intelligence cabals that undermine civil governments world-wide

...gets compounded by the need to hide the creation of 'superweeds' adapting to Monsanto's GM crops...

See the decoy tv show pinning the crime on women called 'Weeds.'
CIA runs mainstream media since WWII:
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Re: Feds Ordering California Medical Marijuana To Close Down

Postby wordspeak2 » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:40 am

I want whatever superweeds you're smoking, Hugh. You got me to look it up, though.
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Re: Feds Ordering California Medical Marijuana To Close Down

Postby wordspeak2 » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:25 pm

SHIT. This just happened today.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2 ... sters.html
Raid of Oakland medical marijuana college draws protesters

Dozens of protesters gathered Monday in Oakland outside Oaksterdam University, chanting "DEA, Go Away" as U.S. marshals stood at the medical marijuana school's doors behind yellow police tape.

Supporters of Richard Lee, who founded the state's first cannabis-industry training school, said he was detained temporarily by unknown federal agents at his nearby apartment but had been released.

A DEA spokeswoman confirmed Lee was detained for questioning and released and that his home was raided.

"I'm outraged," said Jane Klein, 63, of Oakland, whose Marijuana Growers Handbook is used by the trade school.

Her husband, longtime marijuana advocate Ed Rosenthal, 66, is on the faculty.

"It's insulting to be standing here and finding out that our government is behind this," Klein said. "Richard Lee is a philanthropist to the city of Oakland. He has supported our state laws, our city laws."

Steve DeAngelo, CEO of Oakland's Harborside Health Center, received an email about the raid early Monday and came to the scene. He said four locations associated with Lee had been raided.

"This is one more skirmish in a 40-year war that we're destined to win," he said, sporting a small cannabis pin on the lapel of his black wool sportcoat.

Even conservative televangelist Pat Robertson has questioned the efficacy of federal marijuana laws, noted DeAngelo, whose organization sued the IRS in December to challenge its attempt to collect millions in additional taxes from Harborside, which has been called the world's largest medical marijuana dispensary.

"It's only the federal prosecutors who continue to press this war," he said over shouts of, "Shame! Shame! Shame!"

"What this is about is Richard Lee has been a very focused voice for change," DeAngelo said. "This is not about justice, this is about revenge."
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Re: Feds Ordering California Medical Marijuana To Close Down

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:20 am

crikkett wrote:
eyeno wrote:The only way to stop this would be for the governer of the state to take control. Obviously our governers are not working for the states they are governor of. Federal dollars have contaminated the well.


Well our governor is sufficiently cowed.
Last week Jerry Brown vetoed a bill that would have decriminalized hemp.

http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlat ... bills.html

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