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Elihu wrote:i think that's exactly what i'm trying to say. the looooonier the attacks, the better. in the target audience, it narrows the scope of political alternatives they are willing to consider. when the point stays on the outrageously ridiculous distractions, barry and co stay in power. mission accomplished. and worse still, the divided plebiscite polices itself in the constriction of political alternatives. suspicion abounds.but what I can't stand even more is sympathy being engendered on his behalf by those who concoct outrageously ridiculous distractions about him.
Simulist wrote:Alchemy wrote:Obama is not the first US president to have one or both parents born outside of the US. Can anyone name the other 6?
Jefferson, Jackson, Buchanan, Arthur, Wilson, and Hoover?
NeonLX wrote:I agree with beeblebrox (and I'll bet I'm older than he).
I've grown exceedingly weary of being had, over and over again.
eyeno wrote:This is the sort of hypothetical concocted circus I see potential for. Not complicated and very possible.
Problem: Obama an ineligible Muslim was elected President.
Reaction: Outraged public demanding action so that this outrage can never happen again.
Solution: Politicians are only too willing to oblige. Legislation that was written long ago is quickly enacted to appease the outraged masses. An amendment to the Constitution becomes the remedy.
I"m not sure why anybody that reads this board would find the scenario unlikely.
beeblebrox wrote:Obama's presidencey has pacified many of these people, while at the same time steering the country along pretty much the exact same trajectory as the Bush administration. I am embarassed to admit that I voted for Obama in 2008, at the time I didn't care if he was a Muslim, born in Kenya, or the son of Malcom X (that's got to be my favorite one) so long as he really was going try to change things for the better. Nothing has changed, and that was probably the last time I will participate in any election involving the current system.
beeblebrox wrote:Obama's presidencey has pacified many of these people, while at the same time steering the country along pretty much the exact same trajectory as the Bush administration. I am embarassed to admit that I voted for Obama in 2008, at the time I didn't care if he was a Muslim, born in Kenya, or the son of Malcom X (that's got to be my favorite one) so long as he really was going try to change things for the better. Nothing has changed, and that was probably the last time I will participate in any election involving the current system.
Well there was no real alternative, I mean someone else who had an actual chance to win, and sure Obama has turned out to be a real big disappointment HOWEVER, I would still rather have him as president than one of those crazy fucking Republicans. He isnt that much better but those guys are creeps. I have no idea who I will vote for this time around, might just sit this one out as protest, as if that would matter anyway, but again I would rather have Barry than Mitt, yea anyday, but that isnt saying much is it?Simulist wrote:beeblebrox wrote:Obama's presidencey has pacified many of these people, while at the same time steering the country along pretty much the exact same trajectory as the Bush administration. I am embarassed to admit that I voted for Obama in 2008, at the time I didn't care if he was a Muslim, born in Kenya, or the son of Malcom X (that's got to be my favorite one) so long as he really was going try to change things for the better. Nothing has changed, and that was probably the last time I will participate in any election involving the current system.
Understood, and I agree.
I voted for Obama in 2008 — against my better judgment — because I deluded myself into believing what I knew in both my head and my heart was a lie.
Not only am I ashamed of this, I should be.
Alchemy wrote:Well there was no real alternative...Simulist wrote:beeblebrox wrote:Obama's presidencey has pacified many of these people, while at the same time steering the country along pretty much the exact same trajectory as the Bush administration. I am embarassed to admit that I voted for Obama in 2008, at the time I didn't care if he was a Muslim, born in Kenya, or the son of Malcom X (that's got to be my favorite one) so long as he really was going try to change things for the better. Nothing has changed, and that was probably the last time I will participate in any election involving the current system.
Understood, and I agree.
I voted for Obama in 2008 — against my better judgment — because I deluded myself into believing what I knew in both my head and my heart was a lie.
Not only am I ashamed of this, I should be.
Alchemy wrote:I mean someone else who had an actual chance to win, and sure Obama has turned out to be a real big disappointment HOWEVER, I would still rather have him as president than one of those crazy fucking Republicans.
Alchemy wrote:He isnt that much better but those guys are creeps.
Alchemy wrote:I have no idea who I will vote for this time around, might just sit this one out as protest, as if that would matter anyway, but again I would rather have Barry than Mitt, yea anyday, but that isnt saying much is it?
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