Obama Admits Ineligible For President?

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Re: Obama Admits Ineligible For President?

Postby eyeno » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:26 pm

Simulist wrote:Nordic is a rare gift in this day and age: he is a generalist — which means that he has a functional knowledge of a great many things. And not just that; Nordic is a generalist who can also THINK.

Which means he is also rare and valuable.

So, if that's the best you can do, Eyeno — stuff it.



Sorry but i'm just not as hung up on labels as some people. I affiliate with no party or movement. I take information where I find it and its source isn't that important to me. The quotes in the article are valuable. I admitted that cns is a total piece of fox news like swag whore bullshit. What else can I say? I admitted it. That puts jack and I in agreement on this issue. I agree with you jack. CNS is a piece of shit. I admit it. I agree with you jack. That is all.
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Re: Obama Admits Ineligible For President?

Postby DrEvil » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:03 pm

eyeno wrote:The quotes in the article are valuable. I admitted that cns is a total piece of fox news like swag whore bullshit.


The point, I think, is that the quotes in the article are NOT valuable, because they're from a crap source. And it is also ridiculously easy to check them and find a more reliable source.
1. CopyPaste
2. Google
3. Profit!!!
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Re: Obama Admits Ineligible For President?

Postby eyeno » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:06 pm

DrEvil wrote:
eyeno wrote:The quotes in the article are valuable. I admitted that cns is a total piece of fox news like swag whore bullshit.


The point, I think, is that the quotes in the article are NOT valuable, because they're from a crap source. And it is also ridiculously easy to check them and find a more reliable source.
1. CopyPaste
2. Google
3. Profit!!!



I still say if you strip the piece of shit CNS source from the equation, and go on the quotes alone, since politicians did indeed say them, they are valuable. Quotes from politicians (sic) are valuable because it shows us some of their mind. I admitted I fouled. I admitted CNS is a swag whore piece of crap. I'm done with this. I fouled. I admitted it. Not sure what else to say. Actually there isn't anything else to say. I posted from a bag of shit. I'm guilty.
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Re: Obama Admits Ineligible For President?

Postby JackRiddler » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:23 pm

eyeno wrote:You do realize, that since your communication skills suck and are so hostile, that you lose the effectiveness of your intent don't you? Most people


I'm not talking to most people, I'm talking to Tea Party Repeater a.k.a. eyeno. And I don't care to persuade you of anything. If that's making this experience unpleasant for you, good, as you are already making it so for me by either a) playing stupid or b) being stupid.
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Re: Obama Admits Ineligible For President?

Postby eyeno » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:27 pm

JackRiddler wrote:
eyeno wrote:You do realize, that since your communication skills suck and are so hostile, that you lose the effectiveness of your intent don't you? Most people


I'm not talking to most people, I'm talking to Tea Party Repeater a.k.a. eyeno. And I don't care to persuade you of anything. If that's making this experience unpleasant for you, good, as you are already making it so for me by either a) playing stupid or b) being stupid.



I'll write it slower this time so you can read it jack.


eyeno wrote:
I admitted that cns is a total piece of fox news like swag whore bullshit. What else can I say? I admitted it. That puts jack and I in agreement on this issue. I agree with you jack. CNS is a piece of shit. I admit it. I agree with you jack. That is all.

I fouled. I admitted it. Not sure what else to say. Actually there isn't anything else to say. I posted from a bag of shit. I'm guilty.
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Re: Obama Admits Ineligible For President?

Postby Searcher08 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:43 pm

eyeno wrote:
DrEvil wrote:
eyeno wrote:The quotes in the article are valuable. I admitted that cns is a total piece of fox news like swag whore bullshit.


The point, I think, is that the quotes in the article are NOT valuable, because they're from a crap source. And it is also ridiculously easy to check them and find a more reliable source.
1. CopyPaste
2. Google
3. Profit!!!



I still say if you strip the piece of shit CNS source from the equation, and go on the quotes alone, since politicians did indeed say them, they are valuable. Quotes from politicians (sic) are valuable because it shows us some of their mind. I admitted I fouled. I admitted CNS is a swag whore piece of crap. I'm done with this. I fouled. I admitted it. Not sure what else to say. Actually there isn't anything else to say. I posted from a bag of shit. I'm guilty.


There is always a lot that gets 'lost in translation' in posts - sometimes what can be a genuine 'light' approach, when it is translated into text from conversation can lose that quality and come across as unfocused / scattergun at best or game playing / dis-ingenuousness.

The other extreme is that every post is taken as framed in a legalistic argument, with no value unless every paragraph has been referenced from verifiable sources.

FWIW eyeno, if you want to explore an idea, why not strengthen it before "running it up the RI flagpole to see if anyone salutes it".

What do you want to end up with from what you are posting?
What are the Plus / Minus and Interesting points of what you are looking at?

I sometimes wonder if some of the hostility you get here comes from repeatedly posting stuff
that is (literally) half-baked. If your ideas are like a meal, I dont think most RI people will attack you because they don't like what you serve up, but because your ideas are raw and non-coherent and from sources that can be checked by you yourself but were not.
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Re: Obama Admits Ineligible For President?

Postby eyeno » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:48 pm

I agree searcher08. No argument here.
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Re: Obama Admits Ineligible For President?

Postby beeblebrox » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:45 pm

JackRiddler wrote: Nevertheless, a McCain victory would have represented a popular endorsement of the Bush program, or at least taken as such, and opened the way to a new round of revolutionary changes along the lines of 2001-2005. More importantly, the majority of people would actually believe it to be so, and movements like Occupy would have been not just subject to crackdown but a full round-up. When people believe the majority wants change and are frustrated about it, they get angry. When they believe the majority supports the more open fascism of the Republicans, they get discouraged. (All things being relative.) I also guarantee you there would have been no debate today about bombing Iran, because it would have been bombed starting in 2009. Also, we would not be coopting and undermining the Arab Spring, we'd be putting it under full-frontal assault. We would not be standing apart from all of the countries of Latin America, but investing far more heavily in the attempt to carry out old-style CIA coups against all of the leftist governments. And you would have Genghis Khan and Lord Voldermard as justices, instead of Polly Dee and Polly Dum.


I have considered this possibility, and I'm not sure how to respond. One of the few positive side effects of the GWB years is that they exposed this country's political processes for the charade that they are, to anyone who was paying attention. The backlash against Bush was not unexpected (by the assholes pulling the strings) and therefore not beyond a measure of control, cue the Obama selection, the perfect candidate to appease the popular backlash against Bush, while moving along with more or less the same agenda. When the time comes for more open aggression and fascist action there will already be a different puppet in place. That is what I believe their plan is, but that doesn't necessarily mean that that's how it will work out in the end.
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Re: Obama Admits Ineligible For President?

Postby DrVolin » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:51 pm

I think McCain lost because Obama was the sacrificial victim of the 2008 crash, plain and simple. Both the policy differences and who is in the white house are the result of that factor.
all these dreams are swept aside
By bloody hands of the hypnotized
Who carry the cross of homicide
And history bears the scars of our civil wars

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Re: Obama Admits Ineligible For President?

Postby beeblebrox » Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:24 pm

^^It's possible, though that (Obama being a victim) would be hard to argue if he wins a second term.

I honestly don't know what to think anymore, after rereading my previous post, I think it may be counterproductive. WE may be doing the PTB (for lack of a better term, parasites is probably more accurate) a favor by creating an aura of omnipotence about them. They have only the power that we give them.
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Re: Obama Admits Ineligible For President?

Postby Simulist » Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:29 pm

beeblebrox wrote:I honestly don't know what to think anymore, after rereading my previous post, I think it may be counterproductive. WE may be doing the PTB (for lack of a better term, parasites is probably more accurate) a favor by creating an aura of omnipotence about them.

Absolutely. The establishment is good at several things, chief among them the ability to make themselves appear far more "omnipotent" than they either deserve to be, or really are.

It's a ploy that's been used since Gideon figured it out in the Old Testament. His enemies stumbled all over themselves in fear of what they thought they were perceiving, killing each other.
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Re: Obama Admits Ineligible For President?

Postby beeblebrox » Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:15 pm

Simulist wrote:
Absolutely. The establishment is good at several things, chief among them the ability to make themselves appear far more "omnipotent" than they either deserve to be, or really are.



No doubt. I was in the military, to give one example, and It was hard to leave that experience without the opinion that they, with the help of the best propaganda machine on the planet, have mastered the art of appearing more capable than they actually are.
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Re: Obama Admits Ineligible For President?

Postby eyeno » Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:55 pm

beeblebrox wrote:
Simulist wrote:
Absolutely. The establishment is good at several things, chief among them the ability to make themselves appear far more "omnipotent" than they either deserve to be, or really are.



No doubt. I was in the military, to give one example, and It was hard to leave that experience without the opinion that they, with the help of the best propaganda machine on the planet, have mastered the art of appearing more capable than they actually are.



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Re: Obama Admits Ineligible For President?

Postby wintler2 » Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:37 am

JR wrote:Then again, last week my idea (for at least the tenth time) was that we really ought to start a church. (Please don't tell me that's an echo of Hubbard, I wasn't thinking of it as a way of stealing riches from patsies but to create protected spaces and champion some form of liberation theology - at least put some Christ-teachings back into the supposed Christianity.)


Absolutely, its essential, possibly the only thing that could save us from mass dieoff. We don't need universal love, just to cultivate at least some empathy in all is the neccesity. Huxleys model in 'Island' seems workable to me, dress it in whatever nonviolent, beautiful and life affirming iconography and ritual you like, so long as it glorifies the mysteriousness of life (avoids dogmatism) and direct experience (anti-priests & heirarchy) and connection with other (empathy). Empathy can extend to other species, and future generations.

No rational thought process has ever red-pilled anyone to where they choose to make the required changes in political engagement and economic liberation. But harder times will provide more & more stimuli to change, and if you've got a better operating system than a failing BAU, theres hope. I think the Kopimists are an example of good godware.
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Re: Obama Admits Ineligible For President?

Postby JackRiddler » Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:40 am

eyeno wrote:Power perceived is power achieved.


That worked especially well with the Maginot Line.
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