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8bitagent wrote:I can't tell you how many Obama bots Ive encountered on and offline who outright will defend the drone programs, saying "would you rather we send boots on the ground.
8bitagent wrote:
I think the media is being used to pave the way for a race war, or at least a 1968 climate.
Mae Brussell wrote:The total effect was to appear, or wanted to appear, that if they didn't catch the murderers of these people they would come down on the blacks—that was their hope.
It's very interesting in my research on the assassinations that the very first man to publish an article on the Sharon Tate murder in my collection of the murders, before they had a suspect—the murders were in August, and they found the suspects in December—was a man named Ed Butler.
In October '69 he wrote an article. The man who publishes the newspaper that he writes for is Patrick Frawley of Schick Razor and Technicolor, who is one of the third largest supporters of Richard Nixon—a far right-wing person. And he hires Ed Butler to write articles for him.
Ed is an agent provocateur who worked with Lee Harvey Oswald in New Orleans. When Oswald had the cover story that he was a communist, Ed Butler made a record for him. [This was] when Oswald said he was a member of the Fair Play for Cuba [Committee]. And he was the only member of the New Orleans area, and Ed Butler knew it.
Ed Butler worked with Lee Harvey Oswald, so it's interesting that in 1969 the first person who has an opinion on who murdered these seven people would be Ed Butler; In my collection of articles we have Ed Butler.
Now, what is this article called? It says Did Hate Kill Tate? And he goes into the fact that the Black Panthers are tied into the communists, and the evidence is that the Panthers killed these people; [they came] into middle class America and spread terror.
This is what we call provocateurs, agent provocateurs, clandestine governments: where somebody is the first one in, and he's tied with all these other people and links. And he is taking your brain now and your gray matter. In the event they don't have a suspect, he is saying here are the clues:Number one: the hood over the draped bodies—was it a turn about for the Ku Klux Klan?
Number two: the rope found around their bodies, strung body to body is an ironic reminder to lynchings.
Number three: the words "death to pigs" that were scrawled with the human blood over the front door—was that a challenge to Blue Meanies? Remember the Beatles made a movie about Blue Meanies. He's throwing the whole thing in.
Number four: Time magazine quoted an article that Jay Sebring was supposed to be anti-black.
So you see, Ed Butler has you in the palm of his hand.
If they don't have a suspect, you're going to think that the blacks come into fancy residential homes and massacre these lovely white people.
eyeno wrote:This is only complicated for those that do not pay attention, or pay with their attention, or intentionally seek to complicate the situation., and those that have no clue. Which of course includes just about everybody except a few astute RI readers.
Ever heard of the "Holy Land" where Jesus came from? Why, pray tell, do you think, that this god forsaken piece of shit rock land is the hottest property on the planet?
Answer: Bible Lore Value
We are building a new religion in which the Jews will be worshiped as Gods. Being an authentic Jewish person is not a criteria for being worshiped. Oh the contrary...Real Judaism is being destroyed as we speak and so is Christianity. The only criteria for being jewish in the future will be this >>>"being in the know"...and all other features will be erased. Same for Christians.
A new religion is being built right in front of your eyes. Behold its power. It is the religion of the future. Christianity has been bastardized into Israel worship. The future religion will be a whole world worshiping Israel and the chosen ones, which ironically, will have absolutely nothing at all to do with real actual Judaism at it's root form from thousands of years ago.
Sit back, relax, and watch it form on the wall all like a spider web because this is the plan.
Nordic wrote:Eyeno, you got any links to help us understand this new religion? Would love to learn more about this.
Hagee's Revenge? Videos Of Controversial Pastor Removed From YouTube
Late last week, with no prior notification, lawyers for the controversial evangelist John Hagee had a series of videos concerning the pastor removed from YouTube. The clips spanned from the contentious to the mundane; some included footage lifted from sermons Hagee had already made public, others involved documentaries made by filmmakers inside Hagee's conventions. All told more than 120 videos were taken down in the abrupt sweep.
The timing was, perhaps, more peculiar than the move itself. Clips that had been online for well over a year were now being subjected to "third-party" copyright infringement claims. And while Hagee had not been in the mainstream press since he and Sen. John McCain ended their official relationship a month prior, Hagee's Christians United for Israel annual summit is just days away, and at least one prominent McCain backer (Sen. Joseph Lieberman) is set to be in attendance.
Two individuals who have documented Hagee and posted clips on some of his more noteworthy sermons (including those interpreted as anti-Semitic, anti-Muslim, and anti-gay -- Hagee, Wilson noted, once claimed that the Anti-Christ will be German, gay, a "blasphemer" and "partly Jewish - as was Adolf Hitler, as was Karl Marx") believe that nefarious motives were behind the YouTube shakedown.
"Obviously Hagee's minions orchestrated this move to suppress bad publicity ahead of their July summit," said Max Blumenthal, a freelance writer and videographer whose documentary on last year's Christians United for Israel summit was viewed by hundreds of thousands. "This is a response to the McCain debacle and concern over bad publicity for Lieberman's appearance," he charged.
"My guess is that videos [that] Hagee's people think are the most damaging are the ones they targeted," said Bruce Wilson, who first highlighted Hagee's claim that the Holocaust was God's means of hastening the apocalypse by driving the Jews to Palestine. "Clearly, the conference at the end of July and the fact that Lieberman is going to be there also played a role. That's my guess. They certainly don't want people to see the more controversial stuff."
Public relations officials for John Hagee Ministries denied foul play. Noting that several mainstream video clips -- including one from Hagee's speech at AIPAC -- were removed from YouTube as well, they also dismissed the notion that lawyers to the pastor were suppressing news or undermining free speech.
"Any material that was produced for John Hagee Ministries or Christian United for Israel was deemed to be a copyright infringement was taken down," said Juda Engelmayer, a spokesman from the firm 5WPR. "Anything that showed John Hagee giving a sermon - because he films and markets those as well - were taken down because they were considered copyright infringements."
While Engelmayer insisted that legal action to remove the YouTube videos had been in the works for a while, he acknowledged that he didn't "have an answer" as to why it was being pursued now. Many Hagee-related videos, it should be noted, remain on YouTube, and both Wilson and Blumenthal have moved some of their work to Vimeo, another video sharing service.
And yet, as Blumenthal and Wilson note, claims that this was merely an effort to combat copyright infringement contain several, glaring holes. For starters, Hagee had complained but never sought legal recourse for past publication of his sermons. Moreover, Blumenthal's work, while filmed at a Christian United for Israel event, was his own, not Hagee's. "There was no copyrighted material because it was me reporting on a public event," he said.
Even Engelmayer admitted that he didn't know how Blumenthal's particular work "fit the criteria" that the lawyers used. "But if he puts it up [on YouTube] again, I'm almost positive it won't be challenged."
There is little Blumenthal, Wilson, People for the American Way or others whose videos were swiped can do in the meantime. A first amendment lawyer with knowledge of copyright law noted that the pastor's lawyers can have YouTube take down relevant videos regardless of how little Hagee footage they include or how long they have been online. Indeed, YouTube's policy is to remove any video that a third-party claims is a copyright infringement, even if it seems to clearly be "fair use."
After a period of time -- likely, more than two weeks -- users can repost their clips and that third-party must then prove that the video violates copyright law. By then, however, Hagee's Christian's United for Israel, Washington-Israel Summit will likely have commenced.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/0 ... 11373.html
eyeno wrote:.Real Judaism is being destroyed as we speak and so is Christianity.
IanEye wrote: The total effect was to appear, or wanted to appear, that if they didn't catch the murderers of these people they would come down on the blacks—that was their hope.
It's very interesting in my research on the assassinations that the very first man to publish an article on the Sharon Tate murder in my collection of the murders, before they had a suspect—the murders were in August, and they found the suspects in December—was a man named Ed Butler.
In October '69 he wrote an article. The man who publishes the newspaper that he writes for is Patrick Frawley of Schick Razor and Technicolor, who is one of the third largest supporters of Richard Nixon—a far right-wing person. And he hires Ed Butler to write articles for him.
Ed is an agent provocateur who worked with Lee Harvey Oswald in New Orleans. When Oswald had the cover story that he was a communist, Ed Butler made a record for him. [This was] when Oswald said he was a member of the Fair Play for Cuba [Committee]. And he was the only member of the New Orleans area, and Ed Butler knew it.
Ed Butler worked with Lee Harvey Oswald, so it's interesting that in 1969 the first person who has an opinion on who murdered these seven people would be Ed Butler; In my collection of articles we have Ed Butler.
Now, what is this article called? It says Did Hate Kill Tate? And he goes into the fact that the Black Panthers are tied into the communists, and the evidence is that the Panthers killed these people; [they came] into middle class America and spread terror.
This is what we call provocateurs, agent provocateurs, clandestine governments: where somebody is the first one in, and he's tied with all these other people and links. And he is taking your brain now and your gray matter. In the event they don't have a suspect, he is saying here are the clues:Number one: the hood over the draped bodies—was it a turn about for the Ku Klux Klan?
Number two: the rope found around their bodies, strung body to body is an ironic reminder to lynchings.
Number three: the words "death to pigs" that were scrawled with the human blood over the front door—was that a challenge to Blue Meanies? Remember the Beatles made a movie about Blue Meanies. He's throwing the whole thing in.
Number four: Time magazine quoted an article that Jay Sebring was supposed to be anti-black.
So you see, Ed Butler has you in the palm of his hand.
If they don't have a suspect, you're going to think that the blacks come into fancy residential homes and massacre these lovely white people.
We have a new religion and its called the holocaust.
Nordic wrote:We have a new religion and its called the holocaust.
Okay I'm a little confused by that. Could you elaborate?
The Secret Gray-Robed Christians
by Tim Boucher
A while back, I wrote about one of my favorite occult/paranormal possibilities: that there are entities masquerading as humans, and tampering with our affairs for nefarious reasons. People have called them different things: Fakes, Greys, Aliens, Archons, Agents, Demons, Ecthroi & Organic Portals (just to name a few). Now I would like to write about the more positive flip-side of all that. Namely, the resistance.
If those other names and entities represent the incomplete, the inauthentic, the spurious, then the resistance is made up of those individuals who are or have become truly "real", truly whole. Philip K. penis called them secret or "grey-robed" Christians. His experience with the so-called Secret Christians began in 1974 with the first of his mystical experiences.
The impetus for this particular experience was the severe pain Phil was suffering as a result of having an impacted wisdom tooth removed. Phil called his oral surgeon, who promptly phoned in a prescription for some codeine to a local pharmacy (or Darvon; accounts vary).
When the delivery girl arrived, Phil took one look at her and became mesmerized by the golden fish dangling between her breasts. When asked, the girl told Phil that this was the primitive Christian ICHTHYS symbol, ICHTHYS being the Greek for "fish". The fish was chosen in part because ICHTHYS was taken to be an anagram for “Iesous CHristos, THeou Yios, Soter” (Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior). "The girl and I are secret Christians, in hiding because of the Roman persecution. The only way we can identify ourselves to each other is the innocent-looking fish symbol, a harmless pendant in the eyes of most. This secret ally brings not only medicine to heal my sore tooth, but spiritual medicine as well. After all, is not Christ the Great Physician?"
For a great introduction to these events in PKD’s life, check out the exceptional eight page "The Religious Experience of Philip K. penis" by R. Crumb.
From that point onward, penis began to hallucinate Biblical reality holographically overlaid on normal reality, both happening concurrently, as though time had progressed only in illusion. penis goes into the theory behind this in his Tractates Cryptica Scriptura, part of the Exegesis from his novel VALIS. He believed that the Holy Spirit, or the gnostic Sophia ("Holy Wisdom") existed in the form of living information, which he termed "the plasmate."
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22. I term the Immortal One a plasmate, because it is a form of energy; it is living information. It replicates itself—not through information or in information—but as information.
23. The plasmate can crossbond with a human, creating what I call a homoplasmate. This annexes the mortal human permanently to the plasmate. We know this as the “birth from above” or “birth from the Spirit.” It was initiated by Christ, but the Empire destroyed all the homoplasmates before they could replicate.
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This is very similar to the saying 108 from the gnostic Gospel of Thomas:
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108. Jesus said, "Whoever drinks from my mouth will become like me; I myself shall become that person, and the hidden things will be revealed to him."
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penis believed that the Empire, the Black Iron Prison, the material world of bondage, ruled by the archons and the demiurge, had killed off the humans who had fused with Sophia, or crossbonded with the plasmate (ie, the homoplasmates), in order to protect itself. The plasmate didn’t disappear though, the living information was stored in the Nag Hammadi gnostic manuscripts. Their discovery in 1945, according to penis, re-released it back into the world, where it began bonding with humans again.
He talks more about this in his novel VALIS. The return of the plasmate to the world meant that the secret gray-robed Christians redoubled their attacks.
Quote from: VALIS
Who had built the prison–and why–he could not say. But he could discern one good thing: the prison lay under attack. An organization of Christians, not regular Christians such as those who attended church every Sunday and prayed, but secret early Christians wearing light gray-colored robes, had started an assault on the prison, and with success. The secret, early Christians were filled with joy.
"Fat, in his madness, understood the reason for their joy. This time the early, secret, gray-robed Christians would get the prison, rather than the other way around."
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As far as I understand it, the way the secret Christians lay siege to the Black Iron Prison is by taking things that are fake and inauthentic, and replacing them with things that are real, true and complete. penis has an excellent essay about this, which should be required reading, in my opinion: How to build a universe that doesn’t fall apart two days later.
Interestingly, this theme of a secret grey-robed brotherhood fighting against the dark empire exists right out in the open in the middle of one of the most popular books of all time: Lord of the Rings. Specifically, when the Fellowship of the Ring leaves the elven paradisiacal forest of Lothlorien, Lady Galadriel gives them each a grey cloak to wear, which makes them invisible to the eyes of the servants of Mordor. From there, Frodo and Sam penetrate to the heart of darkness, right up to the lair of the Dark Lord himself, and unseat him from power. The True King, Aragorn, also returns to the land, and Gandalf is transfigured into a pure white being.
Mordor is basically analogous to penis’s Empire, the Black Iron Prison, although perhaps it is pictured here before it has spread its darkness across the whole of the land. From peniss’s Tractates,
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41. The Empire is the institution, the codification, of derangement; it is insane and imposes its insanity on us by violence, since its nature is a violent one.
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Another interesting point of comparison comes from the next entry in PKD’s Tractates:
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42. To fight the Empire is to be infected by its derangement. This is a paradox: whoever defeats a segment of the Empire becomes the Empire; it proliferates like a virus, imposing its form on its enemies. Thereby it becomes its enemies.
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This is precisely what happens to Frodo whenever he wears the Ring. The Ring worms its way into his mind and imposes the will of Mordor/the Empire on the mind of the bearer. This is what ultimately destroys Boromir, and this is the reason why Gandalf, Elrond and Galadriel will not bear the Ring themselves.
Would it surprise you to find out that J.R.R. Tolkien was also an ardent Christian? Word on the street is that LOTR is also the second best-selling book of all-time, after guess what - the Bible! I know this is all starting to sound like a conspiracy of secret Christians, and I personally have to wonder if maybe it really is. On that note, let me leave you with one more item from penis’s Tractates:
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43. Against the Empire is posed the living information, the plasmate or physician, which we know as the Holy Spirit or Christ discorporate. These are the two principles, the dark (the Empire) and the light (the plasmate). In the end, Mind will give victory to the latter. Each of us will die or survive according to which he aligns himself and his efforts with. Each of us contains a component of each. Eventually one or the other component will triumph in each human.
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82_28 wrote:
Somebody snaked it and threw it on some forum. I just found it. How dickian is it that their software algorithims sought to replace all of the mentions of "Dick" with "Penis"?
82_28 wrote:43. Against the Empire is posed the living information, the plasmate or physician, which we know as the Holy Spirit or Christ discorporate.
...It appears in the Gospel of John (14:16, 14:26, 15:26, 16:7) where it may be translated into English as "counselor" ...
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