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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby elfismiles » Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:26 am

Glad you did mention that JH, about not firing bullets into the air...

And yeah, a net of some kind is what I'd say is the easiest route.


Unmanned Air Vehicle Caught by Net - YouTube
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=all8o-IrsbQ

Sep 28, 2010 - 8 sec - Uploaded by danieljklein
The guys at Toyon rigged a net to catch our Procerus Unicorn UAV. Maybe not the softest landing in the ...




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnFJDUgfsPE#t=01m52s


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9GFzSxSbAE

Joe Hillshoist wrote:Whatever you do don't fire a 9mm pistol into the air anywhere near where people live. A shottie with birdshot on the other hand...

I probably don't have to mention that do I.

You could also track its usual route and build a net there. Along the lines of what smiley was saying but not attached to a pole.
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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby elfismiles » Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:39 pm

AJ's media disinfo engines driving anti-drone legislation?

House Bill Introduced to Ban EPA Spy Flights (Videos)
http://www.infowars.com/house-bill-intr ... y-flights/
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/h ... e-of-farms

Rehberg backs off claim of EPA drone surveillance
19 hours ago • By TOM LUTEY Billings Gazette

BILLINGS – Two weeks after telling the head of the Environmental Protection Agency to ground surveillance drones allegedly spying on American farmers and ranchers, Rep. Denny Rehberg, R-Mont., acknowledged the drones don’t exist.

In a statement issued by his office Monday, Rehberg acknowledged there aren’t any drones spying on farms and ranches to enforce the Clean Water Act. Rehberg’s staff blamed President Barack Obama for the mix-up.

“The Obama Administration rarely reveals its secretive plans to anyone but its closest allies. Since Denny doesn’t vote with the President 95 percent of the time, he must often rely on news reports and constituent input,” wrote Jed Link, Rehberg’s spokesman. “In this case, Denny heard from concerned Montanans, saw reports in the media and took the responsible first step – asking the EPA about it.”

Rehberg asked EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson to immediately end the policy of using unmanned drones to monitor farms and ranches in a strongly worded June 6 letter. Rehberg said the EPA was using drones to enforce the Clean Water Act.

The drone story had been circulating for several days in the right-wing media before Rehberg wrote Jackson.

Conservative talk radio host Alex Jones published the bogus drone story on his website Infowars.com on June 4, complete with a photograph of a military drone flying through blue skies.

The next day, the New American, a biweekly owned by the ultra-conservative John Birch Society, reported the bogus drone story. That story credited Nebraska’s congressional delegation for the news. The gist of the New American story was that drones were being used to spy on large feedlots where cattle urine and feces are highly concentrated and potentially threaten water supplies.

On June 6, the story was picked up by the Daily Caller, a news site founded by Fox News commentator Tucker Carlson and Neil Patel, former chief policy adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney. The Daily Caller made the news last week when its reporter Neil Munro heckled Obama during a White House news conference in the Rose Garden.

Investors Business Daily also picked up the story. Montanans might recognize the politically conservative publication’s featured columnist, Andrew Malcolm, former communications director for former Republican Gov. Marc Racicot.

Fox News also reported that the EPA was using military-style drones to spy on farms and ranches in the Midwest. Fox linked the bogus EPA drones to U.S. military drone use.

“Even an American terrorist, an American al-Qaida, was killed by a drone. So now you’re in the Midwest, and you know you’re not a terrorist, but nonetheless, you gotta get a little squeamish when you see a drone going overhead,” Fox host Megyn Kelly told viewers.

Link didn’t identify which news source Rehberg used before issuing the June 6 news release. The spokesman asked the Gazette to submit any questions by email, to which Rehberg’s office didn’t respond.

“We can only go so far with what we read in the news,” Link said of Rehberg’s June 6 letter.

Although the EPA does not use surveillance drones, the agency does use manned airplanes to monitor potential pollution sources in the Midwest, a practice the agency said began 10 years ago under President George W. Bush.

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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby elfismiles » Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:11 pm

The next 911 ... with Hijacked Drones?

Straight outta Austin, Texas / University of Texas...


EXCLUSIVE: Drones vulnerable to terrorist hijacking, researchers say (Video)
By John Roberts
Published June 25, 2012
FoxNews.com


A small surveillance drone flies over an Austin stadium, diligently following a series of GPS waypoints that have been programmed into its flight computer. By all appearances, the mission is routine.

Suddenly, the drone veers dramatically off course, careering eastward from its intended flight path. A few moments later, it is clear something is seriously wrong as the drone makes a hard right turn, streaking toward the south. Then, as if some phantom has given the drone a self-destruct order, it hurtles toward the ground. Just a few feet from certain catastrophe, a safety pilot with a radio control saves the drone from crashing into the field.

From the sidelines, there are smiles all around over this near-disaster. Professor Todd Humphreys and his team at the University of Texas at Austin's Radionavigation Laboratory have just completed a successful experiment: illuminating a gaping hole in the government’s plan to open US airspace to thousands of drones.

They could be turned into weapons.

“Spoofing a GPS receiver on a UAV is just another way of hijacking a plane,” Humphreys told Fox News.

In other words, with the right equipment, anyone can take control of a GPS-guided drone and make it do anything they want it to.

“Spoofing” is a relatively new concern in the world of GPS navigation. Until now, the main problem has been GPS jammers, readily available over the Internet, which people use to, for example, hide illicit use of a GPS-tracked company van. It’s also believed Iran brought down that U.S. spy drone last December by jamming its GPS, forcing it into an automatic landing mode after it lost its bearings.


'Spoofing a GPS receiver on a UAV is just another way of hijacking a plane.'
- University of Texas Radio Navigation Laboratory researcher Todd Humphreys


While jammers can cause problems by muddling GPS signals, spoofers are a giant leap forward in technology; they can actually manipulate navigation computers with false information that looks real. With his device -- what Humphreys calls the most advanced spoofer ever built (at a cost of just $1,000) -- he infiltrates the GPS system of the drone with a signal more powerful than the one coming down from the satellites orbiting high above the earth.

Initially, his signal matches that of the GPS system so the drone thinks nothing is amiss. That’s when he attacks -- sending his own commands to the onboard computer, putting the drone at his beck and call.

Humphreys says the implications are very serious. “In 5 or 10 years you have 30,000 drones in the airspace,” he told Fox News. “Each one of these could be a potential missile used against us.”

Drones have been in widespread use in places like Iraq, Afghanistan and Yemen, but so far, GPS-guided unmanned aerial vehicles have been limited to the battlefield or southern border patrols and not allowed to fly broadly in U.S. airspace.

In February, under pressure from the Pentagon and drone manufacturers, Congress ordered the FAA to come up with rules to allow government and commercial use of UAVs over American soil by 2015. The plan could eventually see police drones keeping watch over U.S. cities, UAVs monitoring transmission lines for power companies, or cargo plane-size drones guided by GPS pilotlessly delivering packages across the country. FedEx founder Fred Smith has said he would like to add unmanned drones to his fleet as soon as possible.

The new rules have raised privacy concerns about a "surveillance society," with UAVs tirelessly watching our every move 24/7. But Humphreys’ experiments have put an entirely new twist on the anxiety over drones.

“What if you could take down one of these drones delivering FedEx packages and use that as your missile? That’s the same mentality the 9-11 attackers had,” Humphreys told Fox News.

It’s something the government is acutely aware of. Last Tuesday, in the barren desert of the White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico, officials from the FAA and Department of Homeland Security watched as Humphrey’s team repeatedly took control of a drone from a remote hilltop. The results were every bit as dramatic as the test at the UT stadium a few days earlier.

DHS is attempting to identify and mitigate GPS interference through its new “Patriot Watch” and “Patriot Shield” programs, but the effort is poorly funded, still in its infancy, and is mostly geared toward finding people using jammers, not spoofers.

The potential consequences of GPS spoofing are nothing short of chilling. Humphreys warns that a terrorist group could match his technology, and in crowded U.S. airspace, cause havoc.

“I’m worried about them crashing into other planes,” he told Fox News. “I’m worried about them crashing into buildings. We could get collisions in the air and there could be loss of life, so we want to prevent this and get out in front of the problem.”

Unlike military UAVs, which use an encrypted GPS system, most drones that will fly over the U.S. will rely on civilian GPS, which is not encrypted and wide open to infiltration. Humphreys warns it is crucial that the government address this vulnerability before it allows unmanned aerial vehicles broad access to U.S. airspace.

“It just shows that the kind of mentality that we got after 9-11, where we reinforced the cockpit door to prevent people hijacking planes -- well, we need to adopt that mentality as far as the navigation systems for these UAVs.”


http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/06/ ... chers-say/

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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby elfismiles » Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:45 pm


Antiwar.com Newsletter | June 29, 2012

IN THIS ISSUE
  • Activist Opposition to Drones
  • Top News
  • Opinion and analysis
  • Events
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A Groundswell of Activism Against Drones

Activist opposition to Washington’s new affinity with unmanned aerial vehicles for use in surveillance and war is growing by the day. Anti-drone campaigns are now established in New York, Nevada, California, Colorado, New Mexico, and Arizona, as well as a growing movement in the Midwest, with activity in Illinois, Wisconsin, Indiana, Minnesota, and Iowa.

This groundswell of activism and resistance is happening in tandem with a growing mainstream skepticism, manifesting in official leaks and criticism, editorials in the nation’s leading newspapers, and even legal challenges on the national and international level.

Visit Come Home America for more details on the local activism going on across the country.

http://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=ad4 ... bedd6d8ddf




Activist Joe Scarry on Popular Groundswell Against #Drones Leads to Grassroots Resistance Nationwide
Posted on June 20, 2012 by comehomeamerica

[Excellent round up of anti-drone activism nationwide from MidwestAntiwar's Joe Scarry. Please visit his blog at http://joescarry.blogspot.com/. --Angela, public relations for CHA]

Popular Groundswell Against Drones Leads to Grassroots Resistance NationwideOpposition to drones now includes established campaigns like those in New York and Nevada, plus California, Colorado, New Mexico, and Arizona, as well as a growing movement in the Midwest, with activity in Illinois, Wisconsin, Indiana, Minnesota, and Iowa. Southern attention to the problem focuses on the possibility of drone surveillance during the upcoming political conventions; in the Plains states, government use of drones for livestock surveillance has people’s hackles up.

Seattle is the one bright spot, where local efforts are underway to restrict the use of drones.
In a startling reversal of the popular wisdom that the traditional press is oblivious to issues of war and peace, editorials and op-eds are beginning to appear on a nearly daily basis in local papers, highly critical of the Obama administration drone killings and surveillance.ESTABLISHED RESISTANCESeveral states have long-established resistance to drones, including several based around civil disobedience at drone bases with well-publicized trials that have made an issue of drones.

NEW YORK: See Upstate NY Coalition to Ground the Drones http://upstatedroneaction.peaceworksrochester.org/ for information on the Hancock protests.

NEVADA: See Nevada Desert Experience http://nevadadesertexperience.org/issues/uavs.htmfor information on the Creech protests.

There is also drones resistance in Arizona: http://www.mediaisland.org/drone-protes ... on-airshow

In the weeks ahead, CALIFORNIA resistance is expected to be galvanized by a series of appearances by Medea Benjamin of CODEPINK. See Later in the summer, Medea will be in additional states throughout the country.

An effective grassroots campaign to stop the militarization of airspace over COLORADO and NEW MEXICO has been led by Not 1 More Acre! ( http://not1moreacre.net/ ) They are resisting efforts by the Pentagon with Joint Forces Special Operations (Air Force, Army and Marines) and its contractors to militarize all of southern Colorado and northern New Mexico for mega-billion dollar Joint Forces high-tech development, testing and training programs dedicated to robotic warfare for world-wide military operations.

On the East Coast, there is also the NH Peace Action Drone Project www.nhpeaceaction.org/and activities in New Jersey ( http://www.nbc40.net/news/21967/video )

GROWING RESISTANCE IN THE MIDWEST

The large antiwar movement in Chicago is becoming more and more focused on the problem of drones. During the NATO Summit in Chicago, there was a large demonstration againstdrones. (See http://joescarry.blogspot.com/2012/05/m ... le-in.html ) A major protest is planned during the Air & Water Show in mid-August, when hundreds of thousands of people will pour onto the shore of Lake Michigan in Chicago to see displays of the latest military hardware.

Resistance is ongoing in other parts of the Midwest:

WISCONSIN: Monthly protests at Camp Williams. The next is scheduled for Tuesday, June 26. See http://nodroneswisconsin.blogspot.com/2 ... drone.html

MINNESOTA: Women Against Military Madness (WAMM) has a contingent of “Crones Against Drones” that has carried out actions in the past ( www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-daHj2tA4U ) and has additional actions in the works.

INDIANA: Plans for a statewide educational tour are under way.

IOWA: A drone facility was the target of a combined protest with Occupy:http://www.desmoinesregister.com/viewart/20111202/NEWS/312020074/Occupy-protesters-target-Iowa-drone-facility

(Occupy has also been the prime mover behind drones protests in Tennessee:http://occupynashville.org/2012/05/30/this-is-not-a-drill-drones-in-middle-tennessee-educate-and-organize-for-action-2/ )

Meanwhile, in Nebraska and Iowa there has been concern over government use of drones to do surveillance of feedlots:

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/06/15/se ... veillance/

LOCAL PRESSIt is surprising to see local newspapers in places like Chicago, Akron, Pittsburgh … running editorials and op-eds that are severely critical of drone killings and surveillance.

See list at http://nodronesillinois.blogspot.com/20 ... stion.html

ELECTION 2012 ELECTIONS RAISE CONCERNSThere has been concern that drones will be part of the security apparatus at both the GOP and Democratic conventions later this summer:

http://www.floridavoices.com/myturn/dro ... t-happened
http://dncclt.blogspot.com/2011/10/dron ... ratic.html

The antiwar community in North Carolina is currently developing a program of drone resistance.

There has been additional attention from southern states:

GEORGIA: http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider- ... ic-drones/

STOPPING THE DRONES – CITY BY CITY, STATE BY STATE

There is encouraging news out of Seattle: http://www.aclu.org/blog/technology-and ... safeguards

http://comehomeamerica.wordpress.com/20 ... ationwide/

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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby DrEvil » Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:47 pm

psynapz wrote:Ideas? :fawked:


You could try to jam the radio-signal. Some quick research should get you the relevant frequencies, and directional antennas aren't impossible to find (So you don't screw up everything in the area). You would be amazed at how much stuff you can f**k up with a powerful radio-signal. I have personally seen computers crash, log bogus data and shut themselves down when close to a powerful antenna.
If it navigates by GPS it should also be possible to spoof the signal (What the Iranians claim they did to the american drone they grabbed. Broadcast a fake GPS-signal that's more powerful than the real thing and make the drone think it's home and should land. The GPS signal itself is just a string of plain text updating every second, so all you have to change is the coordinates and the geoide height (the idealized model of the earth used in the calculations)), but that's probably exceptionally illegal and pretty hard to do :D
Or you could get your own drone and declare war.
http://diydrones.com/
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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby elfismiles » Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:45 pm

As previously mentioned, the AJ InfoWars misinfo-meme-dispersal machine appears to have stirred up much discussion RE: federal aerial surveillance (whether drone or piloted).

Midwest ranchers, lawmakers protest EPA flyovers
http://news.yahoo.com/midwest-ranchers- ... 46368.html
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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby 8bitagent » Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:03 pm

Have to say, disinfo/frothing at the mall misinfo, Im glad Alex Jones is helping to stir up anger and antagonism toward drones. Drones are nothing but pure evil in my view.

Noticed these in the toy isle at the store today. Drones are already popular in use in war video games...

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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby elfismiles » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:34 am

Wow 8bit! Thanks for posting this.

I was just looking at this line of toys (and StarWars/Transformers cross-over toys - barf!) at my local HEB grocery store yesterday - this woulda been right around 6-6:30pm CST.

I didn't see this specific transformer but they had a couple from this series line.

8bitagent wrote:Have to say, disinfo/frothing at the mall misinfo, Im glad Alex Jones is helping to stir up anger and antagonism toward drones. Drones are nothing but pure evil in my view.

Noticed these in the toy isle at the store today. Drones are already popular in use in war video games...

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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby 8bitagent » Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:25 pm

When the election cycle really heats up in the coming months, I really want to see a huge viral on and offline effort to push the drone issue to the forefront regarding Obama's endless slaughter of the innocent to the point of ad nauseum. to me this is the single biggest issue that needs to be waved in Obama worshipper's faces, the issue angering me so much I almost want to see Romney win just to spite Team Obama and Obamabots.
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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby DrEvil » Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:32 am

One more thing about messing with a drone's radio signals:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012 ... -wireless/

This could fairly easily be used to crash anything that navigates by GPS. Write the software, crank up the wattage and point at a drone. You could make it believe it's 50 feet in the air when it's really 2 feet up, or make it fly into a building.
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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby psynapz » Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:57 pm

DrEvil wrote:One more thing about messing with a drone's radio signals:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012 ... -wireless/

This could fairly easily be used to crash anything that navigates by GPS. Write the software, crank up the wattage and point at a drone. You could make it believe it's 50 feet in the air when it's really 2 feet up, or make it fly into a building.

Thanks for this link. I was aware of the gnuradio project [and dying for an excuse to get some hardware for it], but strangely enough I hadn't considered its potential application here. I may even put a Dr. Evil sticker on the thing before I fire it up...
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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby elfismiles » Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:01 am

NYTimes got around to publishing their reporters version of the video below... RE: Holloman airforce drone pilot trainees using Americans as targets.


The Drone Zone

By MARK MAZZETTI
Published: July 6, 2012
....

Holloman sits on almost 60,000 acres of desert badlands, near jagged hills that are frosted with snow for several months of the year — a perfect training ground for pilots who will fly Predators and Reapers over the similarly hostile terrain of Afghanistan. When I visited the base earlier this year with a small group of reporters, we were taken into a command post where a large flat-screen television was broadcasting a video feed from a drone flying overhead. It took a few seconds to figure out exactly what we were looking at. A white S.U.V. traveling along a highway adjacent to the base came into the cross hairs in the center of the screen and was tracked as it headed south along the desert road. When the S.U.V. drove out of the picture, the drone began following another car.

“Wait, you guys practice tracking enemies by using civilian cars?” a reporter asked. One Air Force officer responded that this was only a training mission, and then the group was quickly hustled out of the room.

...

But the accelerated training has created its own problems. When I visited Holloman in February, there had been five drone accidents at the base since 2009. Most of them occurred during landing, when pilots have the most difficulty judging where the plane is in relation to the runway. As much as the military has tried to make drone pilots feel as if they are sitting in a cockpit, they are still flying a plane from a screen with a narrow field of vision.

...

Luther (Trey) Turner III, a retired colonel who flew combat missions during the gulf war before he switched to flying Predators in 2003, said that he doesn’t view his combat experience flying drones as “valorous.” “My understanding of the term is that you are faced with danger. And, when I am sitting in a ground-control station thousands of miles away from the battlefield, that’s just not the case.” But, he said, “I firmly believe it takes bravery to fly a U.A.V.” — unmanned aerial vehicle — “particularly when you’re called upon to take someone’s life. In some cases, you are watching it play out live and in color.” As more than one pilot at Holloman told me, a bit defensively, “We’re not just playing video games here.”

Mark Mazzetti is a national-security correspondent for The Times. He is currently writing a book about the C.I.A. since 9/11.

Editor: Greg Veis

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/08/magaz ... wanted=all



Grizzly wrote:fuck, this is becoming more and more ominous...

The US Military is training drone pilots using American civilians as "practice targets" without their knowledge or consent
http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/commen ... ots_using/

Better hurry, and download /watch this as I am sure it wont be up long... Chilling..




From the comments:

When you drive just outside of Phoenix, you can see Apache Longbow helicopters pop up over the horizon and lock on cars driving down the interstate. Testing from the Boeing plant...

Used to go to a LIDAR and FLIR targeting system manufacturer near the Los Angeles airport. They use the planes from LAX as targeting practice during development and testing.

This is nothing new.



Just realized the video I posted doesn't start at the meat of it... it's all worth watching but for the direct time stamp: 07:03 is where the particular subject line is.. (sorry for all the edit's)
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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby Jeff » Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:12 pm

Thanks to the good people at Northrop Grumman, "Polar Hawks" could soon be coming to the Canadian Arctic to safeguard our northern bounty of a receding icecap!

While Polar Hawks could find Russian or Chinese icebreakers poking around the edges of Canada’s contested Arctic claims, their sophisticated sensor packages could also measure ice area and thickness, detect oil spills, perhaps even count muskox and polar bears.


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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby elfismiles » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:43 am

Drone operations over Somalia pose danger to air traffic, U.N. report says
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nat ... story.html
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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby elfismiles » Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:12 pm


US drone strike kills 13 in North Waziristan
By Nasir Khan - Jul 23rd, 2012 (3 Comments)

Miranshah: At least 13 people have been killed in a US drone strike in North Waziristan Agency of Pakistan, northwestern tribal region bordering Afghanistan, sources said on Friday.

The sources said that the drone fired eight missiles on a house in Shawal area of the agency, killing 13 people in the attack.

“Fear prevailed in the area as more drones are still flying in the air,” they added.

Drone strikes have become a regular tactic of United States to target North Waziristan, a safe heaven for the militants to launch attacks against US led coalition forces in Afghanistan.

Pakistan’s Parliament had passed a resolution which demanded United State (US) to halt drone strikes inside Pakistani territory as it is violation of International law while the chief justice Peshawar High Court (PHC) had also remarked that the drone strikes issue should be raised at international forum.

http://www.thenewstribe.com/2012/07/23/ ... iristan-2/

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