8bitagent wrote:In the film, Bane goes from one killing spree to another with methodical calculation, almost perfectly executed and assured confidence. When confronted, Bane lays out exactly what he has in mind. While Breivik will thankfully never see the light of day, and Norway like a lot of European societies are more advanced than Ameri'duh, Breivik has that assured command that feels more frightening than some kid who snapped.
I'm not so sure really, on a couple of levels. Although this looks (according to the official story at least) like a young mentally ill guy, a somewhat hapless and forlorn figure now, who wanted to be The Joker but ended up being Sideshow Bob, the attacks themselves were intended to be similar in scope to Breivik's. If the explosives in his apartment had gone off when the music stopped, which I'm guessing is what he tried to make happen, then there would've been a massive blast and fire in that part of town which would've killed many and drawn all the police and emergency services to it. Meanwhile Holmes would be on the other side of town casually murdering people at his leisure, knowing that any police response would both take longer and be much reduced in number. It was a lot like Brievik's methodology in that sense, and was very, very coldly planned if he isn't so mentally ill (or mind-controlled, or patsied) as to be essentially blameless for it.
And in a way, if he's just a kid who snapped, it's scarier than Brievik, who had to spend years brainwashing himself with extreme-right wing racial nonsense (and rubbish Jeremy Clarkson columns). If Holmes is just another kid, then any other kid can be just like him. Whereas not everybody can be Breivik, thankfully.
I haven't seen the film, not sure if I will or not, certainly won't go seeking it out - I haven't even seen The Dark Knight all the way through yet (pal wouldn't stop talking during it, so i missed about half). Not the world's biggest BatFan, really, and didn't know much about Bane - apparently he broke Batman's spine at one point in the comics, but they've also teamed up on occasion to take down drug cartels or something.
8bitagent wrote:No way Breivik would have told the cops about tripwires and liquid bombs, or be reduced to foaming at the mouth animalism.
Definitely not. I wonder at what point Holmes realised his bombs had failed, if he maybe had a way of checking with his phone or something, or of monitoring police radio in the area to see if the explosion had happened yet?
8bitagent wrote:Like you said, in reality Breivik made the anti immigrant nationalists hated even more, not the opposite. His plan was simply to kill, I doubt it was to get people to hate Muslims or "communists". IF IT WAS, he would have pulled a clever false flag terror attack to point toward Muslims.
Good point, but as smart as he thinks he is, Breivik just had to make himself known as the guy who had done it all, and couldn't resist the directions of his warped ego. He did also have the other aim of inspiring a revolutionary vanguard of Justiciar Knights to rise up in his image, but it's hard to say if he believed that was ever likely to happen himself or not. Depends how stupid he is really, but he certainly hedged his bets by setting his fantasy uprising in 2083.
Anyway, good posts here by yourself 8-bit, brekin, 2012 and many others. I'll shut up about Breivik.
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