"The Lesser Of Two Evils"...Why, Obama Isn't That Bad!

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Re: "The Lesser Of Two Evils"...Why, Obama Isn't That Bad!

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:27 pm

Victimization remains a core plank of the Bipartisan Consensus platform, sadly. It just keeps getting ratified every 2 years like cot damn clockwork.

Carter was a wimp and a fool for questioning our right to bomb indiscriminately and celebrate our kills in public. Strangely, his core platform was Christianity. Then again, Christianity is a strange religion, I've always been impressed with how cheap opportunist bigots got to claim the title of "Fundamentalists" when they clearly failed to comprehend even one of the the actual fundamentals espoused by Jesus Christ.

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Re: "The Lesser Of Two Evils"...Why, Obama Isn't That Bad!

Postby DrEvil » Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:59 pm

If they're both so bad (and they are), why not vote for the good guys?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Stein
At least you'll have a clean conscience.
Voting for any of the presiding bastards is like choosing between Cthulhu and Nyarlathotep. :cthulhu:
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Re: "The Lesser Of Two Evils"...Why, Obama Isn't That Bad!

Postby MayDay » Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:31 pm

While I won't personally be taking part in the sham this year, I find it damn near culpable to publicly encourage others to follow suit. Sorta like those rightwing propaganda campaigns aimed at keeping minority voters away from the poles that we hear about from time to time, only with (ostensibly) different motivations.

I can only assume, given ample evidence, that many, many more babies will die under Romney/Ryan than under Obama. So I do wish you'd find a better angle than this (imo) half-hearted lament of dead babies, since you apparently haven't thought this one through too thoroughly.

I don't like the whole 'lesser of evil' bullshit any more than the average ri reader, but something just smells fishy here. I mean, why even bother when you know full well that you're preachin' to the choir?
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Re: "The Lesser Of Two Evils"...Why, Obama Isn't That Bad!

Postby 8bitagent » Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:50 pm

DrEvil wrote:If they're both so bad (and they are), why not vote for the good guys?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Stein
At least you'll have a clean conscience.
Voting for any of the presiding bastards is like choosing between Cthulhu and Nyarlathotep. :cthulhu:


Often people in 2008 would ask who I voted for. I responded by saying "I voted for the black candidate representing real progress and change" And they might reply something along the lines of "Oh whew, ok, so Obama". And I'd be like "Definitely not"
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Re: "The Lesser Of Two Evils"...Why, Obama Isn't That Bad!

Postby MayDay » Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:53 pm

So you voted for McKinney. Awesome. Pat yourself on the back. Here, have a cookie. :praybow
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Re: "The Lesser Of Two Evils"...Why, Obama Isn't That Bad!

Postby lupercal » Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:01 pm

8bitagent wrote:
DrEvil wrote:If they're both so bad (and they are), why not vote for the good guys?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Stein
At least you'll have a clean conscience.
Voting for any of the presiding bastards is like choosing between Cthulhu and Nyarlathotep. :cthulhu:


Often people in 2008 would ask who I voted for. I responded by saying "I voted for the black candidate representing real progress and change" And they might reply something along the lines of "Oh whew, ok, so Obama". And I'd be like "Definitely not"

Bullshit. Prove that you've ever voted in your life. Prove that you've ever registered to vote, received a sample ballot, voted in an actual polling place, or otherwise performed any remotely informed function of citizenry. Unless you've had a lobotomy between 2008 and now I see no evidence that you're even dimly aware of the procedures for voting in California, let alone any race but the least important, namely US president. Ditto your thuggy pal Nordic. If you either of you have, you've never shown any trace of knowing anything about any race, candidate, office, initiative, or measure except the ones your stupid tee-vee flashes in your face 24/7 every four years.

Executive summary: prove you've ever voted in any actual election.
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Re: "The Lesser Of Two Evils"...Why, Obama Isn't That Bad!

Postby 8bitagent » Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:02 pm

MayDay wrote:While I won't personally be taking part in the sham this year, I find it damn near culpable to publicly encourage others to follow suit. Sorta like those rightwing propaganda campaigns aimed at keeping minority voters away from the poles that we hear about from time to time, only with (ostensibly) different motivations.

I can only assume, given ample evidence, that many, many more babies will die under Romney/Ryan than under Obama. So I do wish you'd find a better angle than this (imo) half-hearted lament of dead babies, since you apparently haven't thought this one through too thoroughly.

I don't like the whole 'lesser of evil' bullshit any more than the average ri reader, but something just smells fishy here. I mean, why even bother when you know full well that you're preachin' to the choir?


I won't get into my view that the whole thing is scripted/engineered/rigged(I do believe Obama was engineered to win)

But as to why I would make a thread...well it's because you guys are essentially the only small pocket on the interwebz who gets it-gets it. And I enjoy the well thought out and entertaining responses.

I guess it also just comes from this sheer frustration to see over and over all these things fellow liberals would be pulling their hair out and making a ruckus over that continually happens under Obama if Bush had did it, but they remain either silent or play mental gymnastics to try and defend. I predicted it, but it has been strange to watch in action as so called progressives use Bush era rationale("well, there really is a legitimate terror threat and civilian casualties are part of any war", "well, you have to break a few eggs to make a cake", "Well sometimes you have to compromuse")

So yeah, maybe a teeny part of me secretly is curious to see a Romney win just to see all the whiny smug smarmy "liberals" go apeshit. And Im not trying to liken it to the Y2k scare hype, but I wonder if anythign would truly change if Romney wins. I almost think something entirely different is being planned. Everyone talked about Y2K, Y2K. But it wasnt til a year and a half later the real Y2K came. People waxed endlessly on "2012" conspiracy theories or fears, but it's been a relatively quiet year.
Romney and Ryan could not be more disgusting creatures who make no bones of the progress and rights they'd scale back, almost to a Woolworth luncheon counter kind of vibe. Part of me thinks
people need to see this face however to rise up and demand true change. Maybe that sounds too book of Job-ish.

If there's any doubt as to my feelings on Romney and the GOP, I'll let Bill Hicks sum it up(just replace Rush with Romney and company here)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIT-SYVPV8s

Im just saying, unlike Obama and company, Romney and Ryan don't hide behind any pretenses of a fake assurance...they're glowing with servile evil.
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Re: "The Lesser Of Two Evils"...Why, Obama Isn't That Bad!

Postby 8bitagent » Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:05 pm

lupercal wrote:
8bitagent wrote:
DrEvil wrote:If they're both so bad (and they are), why not vote for the good guys?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Stein
At least you'll have a clean conscience.
Voting for any of the presiding bastards is like choosing between Cthulhu and Nyarlathotep. :cthulhu:


Often people in 2008 would ask who I voted for. I responded by saying "I voted for the black candidate representing real progress and change" And they might reply something along the lines of "Oh whew, ok, so Obama". And I'd be like "Definitely not"

Bullshit. Prove that you've ever voted in your life. Prove that you've ever registered to vote, received a sample ballot, voted in an actual election, or otherwise performed any remotely informed function of citizenry. Unless you've had a labotomy between 2008 and now I see no evidence that you're even dimly aware of the actual procedures for voting in California, let alone any race but the least imporant, namely US president. Ditto your thuggy pal Nordic. If you either of you have you've never shown any trace of knowing anything about any race, candidate, office, initiative, or measure except the ones your stupid tee-vee flashes in your face 24/7.

Executive summary: prove you've ever voted in any actual election.



Ask Nordic to prove he's ever worked in the capacity of Hollywood or if other people truly live in Canada. Gimme a break. My voting record, as soon as I turned 18 in 1996 was as follows:
voted for Bill Clinton in 1996, voted for Ralph Nader in 2000, voted for Kerry in 2004, and voted for Cynthia Mckinney in 2008. I had met Mckinney at a large anti war rally in Los Angeles back in March 2008, but was already planning to vote for her as a sort of protest vote. This year I'm just going to leave the presidential spot blank but there's some local and state issues I feel strongly about voting for. voting is pretty simple in suburbia where I live. Walk across a few blocks to the local library. Derp derp derp. Not rocket science.

Sorry if leftists who are not comfortable supporting Obama bothers you.
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Re: "The Lesser Of Two Evils"...Why, Obama Isn't That Bad!

Postby lupercal » Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:06 pm

8bitagent wrote:So yeah, maybe a teeny part of me secretly is curious to see a Romney win

Yo 8bit, maybe a teeny part of you is secretly a right wing troll, like the sentient part. Ya think?
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Re: "The Lesser Of Two Evils"...Why, Obama Isn't That Bad!

Postby lupercal » Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:10 pm

8bitagent wrote:Sorry if leftists who are not comfortable supporting Obama bothers you.

Trust me on this one, you are nothing faintly resembling a leftist, liberal, or whatever other idiotic label you give yourself. Politically speaking you're a mean old lady from Iowa parked in front of the telly 24/7 and scared silly the black kids down the block will steal your silver spoons. Deal with it dude.
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Re: "The Lesser Of Two Evils"...Why, Obama Isn't That Bad!

Postby 8bitagent » Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:16 pm

lupercal wrote:
8bitagent wrote:So yeah, maybe a teeny part of me secretly is curious to see a Romney win

Yo 8bit, maybe a teeny part of you is secretly a right wing troll, like the sentient part. Ya think?


Well,...my STRONG support and advocacy of LGBT rights(I believe gay marriage and adoption rights should be forcibly federally mandated), advocation for homeless awareness and rights, pro "illegal" immigrants/anti xenophobia, pro women clinic right access,
pro government allowances, pro separation of church and state, wish ACORN was still around, thinks socialism is ok in a lot of areas, pro environmentalist stances might conflict with any "right wing" agenda, lol.

I won't bring up the anti war thing, as you'll probably just inform me even David Duke and Pat Buchanan are anti war.

Prey tell, what makes me so right wing? Because Im not the biggest Obama fan and I don't drink from the Democratic trough?

Also, I hate television and can proudly say I have not watched more than a few hours worth of tv since the Iraq war buildup.
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Re: "The Lesser Of Two Evils"...Why, Obama Isn't That Bad!

Postby Fresno_Layshaft » Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:18 pm

lupercal wrote:Yo 8bit, maybe a teeny part of you is secretly a right wing troll, like the sentient part. Ya think?


Hey! Thats your job!
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Re: "The Lesser Of Two Evils"...Why, Obama Isn't That Bad!

Postby 82_28 » Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:02 pm

lupercal wrote:
8bitagent wrote:Sorry if leftists who are not comfortable supporting Obama bothers you.

Trust me on this one, you are nothing faintly resembling a leftist, liberal, or whatever other idiotic label you give yourself. Politically speaking you're a mean old lady from Iowa parked in front of the telly 24/7 and scared silly the black kids down the block will steal your silver spoons. Deal with it dude.


Hey, lupercal, lay off the flaming. I does none of us any good. 8bit has been here a long time and is a valuable mind many of us like and like me, gives more personal anecdotes and outside the box speculation. Please help to keep the place a place to come back to. I do value your posts as well, lupercal and I have seen you take it on the chin before where I thought it wasn't warranted. Nevertheless, this is the Internet. You too, deal with it, dude.

And 8bit, I'd suspended about now if I had to deal with a comment like that.
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Re: "The Lesser Of Two Evils"...Why, Obama Isn't That Bad!

Postby Nordic » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:33 am

MayDay wrote:While I won't personally be taking part in the sham this year, I find it damn near culpable to publicly encourage others to follow suit. Sorta like those rightwing propaganda campaigns aimed at keeping minority voters away from the poles that we hear about from time to time, only with (ostensibly) different motivations.

I can only assume, given ample evidence, that many, many more babies will die under Romney/Ryan than under Obama. So I do wish you'd find a better angle than this (imo) half-hearted lament of dead babies, since you apparently haven't thought this one through too thoroughly.

I don't like the whole 'lesser of evil' bullshit any more than the average ri reader, but something just smells fishy here. I mean, why even bother when you know full well that you're preachin' to the choir?



You make my point for me.

Why do you think more babies will get killed under Romney than under Obama? How did Obama kill LESS babies than Bush? Obama is currently doing nothing but extending the Bush policies everywhere. Why do you think there's actually a choice between Romney and Obama? Why do you think any of the PTB's actually want to have Obama out of power? They don't.

If it makes you feel better, go vote. But you might as well just jack off in your bathroom for all the effect it will have on world politics. Seriously. And jacking off will actually make you feel better.

I really wish voting made a difference. I may go out and vote anyway, and I'll probably vote for Roseanne Barr and Cindy Sheehan. At least those ladies have a clue as to what is going on.

I'd vote for RFK but he's dead. I'd vote for MLK but he's dead. I'd vote for Malcolm X but he's dead. Hell, I'd vote for Tupac Shakur but he's dead. Make any sense yet? Seeing a pattern?
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Re: "The Lesser Of Two Evils"...Why, Obama Isn't That Bad!

Postby Nordic » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:36 am

lupercal wrote:Ditto your thuggy pal Nordic. If you either of you have, you've never shown any trace of knowing anything about any race, candidate, office, initiative, or measure except the ones your stupid tee-vee flashes in your face 24/7 every four years.

Executive summary: prove you've ever voted in any actual election.


See, this is why I have you on ignore. You talk like a crazy person. Hell, the homeless guys around here who rant at the sky make more sense than you do. You're also displaying a great deal of some type of paranoia here.

So fuck off.

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