"The Lesser Of Two Evils"...Why, Obama Isn't That Bad!

[Nordic]

I am really glad it is a big joke to so many people, what that tells me is that you dont need the social safety net that many million others do, and that is a great thing, I am glad you dont have to depend on the government to survive, but a lot of people do and if you were one of them this would not be a fucking joke it would be a very serious matter.

You're right. I don't take any of this seriously at all! That's why I get so angry about it, I suppose, and have spent the last 12 years of my life basically giving myself a graduate degree in How The World Really Works. What did I learn? Gosh, I learned that it's just a laughing matter, and that if i get out and vote for Obama it will change everything, or at least keep the really SCARY stuff from happening!

I also just learned that I am extremely powerful, and that what I write on the Internet is followed by enough people to change the situation!

Thanks for letting me know.

Listen, peeps! I was wrong! Vote for Obama. IF YOU CARE.

These children will thank you. They were sacrificed for Cause Obama:

[Nordic]

Listen, the point is, why beat yourself up if it doesn't go the way you want? This kind of thinking leads to this notion of "it's our fault for not fighting harder. IF ONLY we could get enough people to get out and vote, maybe we could all petition Obama and get him to do what HE MUST REALLY FEEL IN HIS HEART is the right thing! It's just those evil Romney types who are in our way!"

No. These people read Machiavelli when they were in diapers and have gone to the next level. They are pure evil and they gamed the system a long time ago. The only reason they don't all have us tied up in chains and stuck to electrodes is because it's too much trouble. The illusion of Democracy is a LOT cheaper and a lot easier for them. It's SO easy, really, if you step back and look at it.

It's not your fault. Or mine.

[8bitagent]

Everytime I even think "well, maybe Obama isn't so bad" I keep thinking of all the maimed Muslim children...not simply because it happened on Obama's watch. But because Obama went out of his way
to make sure drone and bomb strikes became a daily ritual of sorts.

But Nordic, don't you know? You're just the 1% if you don't vote for Obama(even tho it was the 1% who put him where he's at to begin with)

I guess what people are saying is, Romney is like the uncle you don't want loved ones around since he looks like a potential serial rapist...while Obama is merely a sexual molester with some rapes.
So ya know, go for the lesser of two evils. The more people spam on my facebook wall with scare tactics to vote for Obama, the more it makes me hate the entire process.

So c'mon, vote for Stalin over Hitler. Stalin only killed 7 million people, and it was by starvation not gas chamber...and it was just some Ukranians anyways.

[Nordic]

I think it's a question of choosing your rapist. Choose the better looking and more charming of the two. Maybe it won't hurt as much.

Sorry, all my millions of followers will now not vote! Gosh, I just changed history.

[Hunter]

Cant save the whole world and you also should not throw the baby out with the bath water. The wars are not going to stop and there is nothing we can do about that, I hate it as much as you do but that isnt a logical reason to throw in the towel and let everything else go to hell because of it, there are some things we CAN save by making sure that Romney does not win and that is healthcare for those in need, a social safety net for those who need a hand because of disability, unemployment et al, public education, less tax breaks for those who dont need them and more tax breaks for those who do, the right of a woman to choose, the ability for two consenting adults to marry and benefit from that civil union in many ways. These are things that the Republicans will work very hard to get rid of, sadly to prevent that it means we are going to have to accept some very bad shit and compromise, I dont like that any more than you do but it is better than letting it ALL go to hell with a Romney presidency.

[Hunter]

I think it's a question of choosing your rapist. Choose the better looking and more charming of the two. Maybe it won't hurt as much.

Sorry, all my millions of followers will now not vote! Gosh, I just changed history.

Being a smart ass is really not helping, nobody is talking about YOU, I am speaking of the general and growing widespread sentiment that just not taking part in the process is the answer, it isnt and never will be, all it is going to do is get Romney elected and give them free reign to fuck a lot of shit up and likely appoint some even more fucked up SCOTUS justices.

We dont live in an ideal world, this isnt utopia and things are never going to be perfect, the world will always be a very fucked up place to live and that is largely ALL of our fault collectively BUT there are some battles we can fight for and win and make a difference and so we have to keep fighting one way or another, just throwing up your hands, pulling your skirt over your head and running around the room in circles like a toddler isnt going to do it.

[Hammer of Los]

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If I were american, I would vote obama.

Yeah, despite it all.

Just to try to lessen the odds of wwIII.

Besides, I believe in the principle of participatory democracy, so why not?

Ya know?

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[justdrew]

I think it's a question of choosing your rapist. Choose the better looking and more charming of the two. Maybe it won't hurt as much.

Sorry, all my millions of followers will now not vote! Gosh, I just changed history.

Being a smart ass is really not helping, nobody is talking about YOU, I am speaking of the general and growing widespread sentiment that just not taking part in the process is the answer, it isnt and never will be, all it is going to do is get Romney elected and give them free reign to fuck a lot of shit up and likely appoint some even more fucked up SCOTUS justices.

We dont live in an ideal world, this isnt utopia and things are never going to be perfect, the world will always be a very fucked up place to live and that is largely ALL of our fault collectively BUT there are some battles we can fight for and win and make a difference and so we have to keep fighting one way or another, just throwing up your hands, pulling your skirt over your head and running around the room in circles like a toddler isnt going to do it.

yep. it's ironic, and messed up and SEMI-rigged as it is, we're got to make it work, cause there's no other viable option. I posted the video of the images from RFK's funeral train for a reason, take a look in those faces, all those people and millions more besides before and after. unity. allies. Don't let them down.

Imperfect it all is, but only by steadfastly refusing to quit is there any chance for improvement. and while there's an edifice of "crap" around the political process, it's RIPE for change and reform too. Nothing will get better without taking on the role of "the new winners" - which can only happen if everyone votes for the best available candidate, and keeps the ball rolling. One of these days it's going to get to the top and fucking stay there!

[Belligerent Savant]

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Somehow I always assumed there was a general consensus within this board that the entire process is little more than theatre/pantomime.

We're really debating "the lesser of two evils" here?

ah, humans.

The alluring concept of The Vote and all it represents.

Choice
Democracy
Fairness
Due Process
'A Representative voice'


Quite easy to fall prey to its tantalizing seductions and all its promises. It represents a reality that many hope for, strive to realize, and go through great lengths to maintain... so tantalizing in fact that even those among us that presumably know better are drawn into its seductive gravitational pull.

It's perhaps the Orginal Honeypot.


Vote, or don't.
Remain apathetic, or revolt.

Even with a successful overthrow or revolution, the outcome may only temporarily, fleetingly, alter circumstances in the long term.


It shall remain: Greed in all its forms. "Greed is good." So long as those very few with clout continue to subscribe to this premise, we shall remain in this repeating cycle.

The eternal prophetic words: wash, rinse, repeat.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

[justdrew]

Vote, or don't.
Remain apathetic, or revolt.

you're paraphrasing Devo

Devo, Chrissie Hynde and The Black Keys
On Friday, October 17, three of Akron’s most famous artists played a fundraiser for the Summit County Democratic Party. Devo, Chrissie Hynde and The Black Keys all lent their time to entertain a sold out Akron Civic Theatre.

[JackRiddler]

Hey - Ho - Waaaay... to Go - O-Hiii-Oh.

[dada]

Hey, sorry I'm late!

(danger: cliff ahead) ____________

[Nordic]

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Somehow I always assumed there was a general consensus within this board that the entire process is little more than theatre/pantomime.

We're really debating "the lesser of two evils" here?

ah, humans.

The alluring concept of The Vote and all it represents.

Choice
Democracy
Fairness
Due Process
'A Representative voice'


Quite easy to fall prey to its tantalizing seductions and all its promises. It represents a reality that many hope for, strive to realize, and go through great lengths to maintain... so tantalizing in fact that even those among us that presumably know better are drawn into its seductive gravitational pull.

It's perhaps the Orginal Honeypot.

^^^^^^^^
Yes.



I've been watching this creep up on people here, and in the world I know outside of this screen. People who were all into Occupy a year ago, and seemed to finally be figuring out that Wall Street has no better friend than Obama are largely all now falling prey to the "OMG we CAN'T LET ROMNEY WIN" nonsense. Like we have any say in the matter.

And like the President has much say in the matter anyway! The guy, whoever he is, is just a figurehead puppet, just the PR guy for the Corporate Welfare Neofascist State.

If you can just keep in your head that it's every bit as real as Professional Wrestling, maybe you won't get sucked into the Fear Vortex.

[Hammer of Los]

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How about the likes of John Bolton starting up wwIII?

Whaddya think?

Don't that scare ya?

I might be an immortal spirit being but a nuclear blast would sure shred up my meat puppet good.

I don't think I'm done with this world just yet.

But do you think Obama's that crazy?

I think he and maybe others are not so crazy as to want to start wwIII.

They may even want to prevent it.

Now John Bolton.

He's fu**in' crazy.

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[IanEye]

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you may bury my body
down by the highway side



you may bury my body
down by the highway side



so my old evil spirit
can get a greyhound bus and ride



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