Israeli bomb kills UN observers

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Israeli bomb kills UN observers

Postby jingofever » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:05 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5215366.stm">news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middl...215366.stm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Kofi suggests it was deliberate. Another USS Liberty type of action going on here? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Israeli bomb kills UN observers

Postby dranek7 » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:49 am

You could just as easily ask if this is another <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.norplatoon.net/content/view/87/53/">Qana</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> situation too.<br><br>All I know is that Kofi Annan's days at the UN are probably numbered as were his predecessor's after criticizing Israel for slaughtering 102 civilians and <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>ironically</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> 4 UN peacekeepers. <br><br>I am anxiously awaiting tomorrow's full set of dismissive talking points. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Israeli bomb kills UN observers

Postby Sepka » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:52 am

I think Kofi should fly over to Lebanon to investigate.<br><br>-Sepka the Space Weasel <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Israeli bomb kills UN observers

Postby havanagilla » Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:45 am

israeli backtalks say the chinese guy was a spy , etc.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Israeli bomb kills UN observers

Postby greencrow0 » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:46 am

Bottom line, somebody has to stand up to Israel.<br><br>There is nobody, I repeat, nobody<br><br>Willing to do so. We have only ourselves to blame.<br><br>Unlike in WWII there is nobody to stand up to fascism.<br><br>GC <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Israeli bomb kills UN observers

Postby sunny » Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:11 pm

There is no question at all that this action was deliberate:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,,1830397,00.html?gusrc=rss">www.guardian.co.uk/israel...?gusrc=rss</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"But the shelling started in the morning and went on until after 7pm.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> You cannot imagine the anguish of the unarmed men and women peacekeepers who were there."<br><br>According to a detailed timeline of the incident provided by an unidentified UN officer and reported by CNN, the first bomb exploded around 200 metres from the post at 1.20pm (11.20am BST) yesterday.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Unifil observers then telephoned their designated contact with the Israeli military, who assured them the attacks would stop. In the following hours, nine more bombs fell close to the post, each one followed by a call to the Israeli military, the UN officer said.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>The main Unifil base in the town of Naqoura lost contact with the post at 7.40pm, seemingly the time when the post received a direct hit.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Israeli bomb kills UN observers

Postby bvonahsen » Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:39 pm

Israel decided to take the hit about killing UN observers rather than let them have the evidence of Israeli war crimes (targeting civillians). Which would be much harder to dispute. They believe that they are hated anyway and so what is the point of trying to please the EU?<br><br>They'll come to regret that choice. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Israeli bomb kills UN observers

Postby Seamus OBlimey » Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:31 pm

Didn't the first bomb in Baghdad kill the local UN rep? Then the next took out the Red Cross?<br><br>"The post was hit by a precision-guided missile after six hours of shelling, diplomats familiar with the probe say."<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5217176.stm">BBC</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>De-Liberate<br><br>It's about time the UN stood up to the warmongers. If it can't it's time to find another way! <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Israeli bomb kills UN observers

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:52 pm

Add ambulances to the list of approved targets:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.freespeechwar.com/smf/index.php?topic=2568.0">www.freespeechwar.com/smf...pic=2568.0</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i></i>
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Re: CANADA bails israel out

Postby havanagilla » Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:08 pm

<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/743051.html" target="top">Haaretz now</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> reports that <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>PM of canada</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> supports the israeli claim that it was an accident, and rejects/comdemns the UN's allegations to the contrary.<br><br><br> <br> <br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Canadian PM does not believe UN post deliberately targeted by IDF <br> <br>By Yuval Azoulay, Amos Harel, Yoav Stern, Shmuel Rosner and News Agencies <br> <br>Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper said Wednesday he doubts Israel's deadly attack on a UN observation post in Lebanon, which killed a Canadian observer, was deliberate. <br><br>Harper, speaking to reporters in eastern New Brunswick, said the Canadian military would consult with the United Nations and Israeli government to determine what happened. <br><br>Harper also said he wants to know why the post was still manned by UN observers even though it was in the middle of an obvious war zone. <br><br><br> <br> <br> Advertisement <br> <br>Though Annan has suggested Israel targeted the outpost, Harper believes <br>otherwise. <br><br>"I certainly doubt that to be the case, given that the government of Israel has been cooperating with us in our evacuation efforts, in our efforts to move Canadian citizens out of Lebanon and also trying to keep our own troops that are on the ground involved in the evacuation out of harm's way," he said. <br><br>"We want to find out why this United Nations post was attacked and also why it remained manned during what is now, more or less, a war during obvious danger to these individuals," Harper said. <br><br>Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan on Wednesday that he has instructed the military to carry out a thorough investigation into an Israel Air Force strike on a UN base in southern Lebanon, in which four peacekeepers were killed. <br><br>He told Annan that the results would be shared with him.<br><br>Peacekeepers had called the Israel Defense Forces 10 times in a six-hour period to ask it to halt its nearby bombing <br>before their observation post was hit, killing four people, according to details of a preliminary UN report on the incident released to The Associated Press on Wednesday.<br><br>During each phone call, an Israeli official promised to halt the bombing, according to a UN official who had seen the preliminary report.<br><br>The peacekeepers at the post said the area within a kilometer of the post was hit with precision munitions, including 17 bombs and 12 artillery shells, four of which directly hit the post Tuesday, the report said.<br><br>The IDF said it regrets the deaths of the UN personnel and said all offensive operations in Lebanon are directed at Hezbollah. <br><br>The IDF also said that Hezbollah gunners were firing at Israel from the concerned area and the IDF thus decided to operate there. Nevertheless, the IDF said it would conduct a compehensive investigation into the incident in full cooperation with the UN.<br><br>Israel said Wednesday that it regrets the "tragic" deaths of the observers and will thoroughly investigate the circumstances that led to their deaths.<br><br>"Israel sincerely regrets the tragic deaths of the UN personnel in south Lebanon," said Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev.<br><br>Annan had earlier called for an inquiry into what he called Israel's "apparently deliberate targeting" of the UN observer force.<br><br>Olmert expressed dismay over Annan's comments. "It's inconceivable for the UN to define an error as an apparently deliberate action," the statement said.<br><br>Dan Ayalon, Israel's Ambassador to Washington, demanded that Annan apologize for the remarks, which he called "baseless."<br><br>Olmert said he had spoken to Annan to express "deep sorrow" over the deaths.<br><br>The victims included observers from Austria, Canada, China and Finland, UN and Lebanese military officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release the information to the media.<br><br>The four observers were killed after a bomb directly struck the building and shelter of an Indian patrol base from an observer force in the town of Khiyam near the eastern end of the border with Israel, said Milos Struger, spokesman for the UN peacekeeping force in Lebanon, UNIFIL.<br><br>"There are casualties among the observers. UNIFIL immediately dispatched a rescue and medical team and they're currently on the location but unable to clear the rubble," Struger said.<br><br>At UN headquarters in New York, Annan said he was "trying to get the details" of the attack.<br><br>Annan said there were 14 other incidents of Israeli gunfire directed at the targeted area Tuesday afternoon. "The firing continued even during the rescue operation," he said.<br><br>Israel's UN Ambassador Dan Gillerman expressed his "deep regret" for the deaths and denied Israel hit the post intentionally.<br><br>Gillerman said he was "shocked and deeply distressed by the hasty statement of the secretary-general, insinuating that Israel has deliberately targeted the UN post," calling the assertions "premature and erroneous."<br><br>He said Olmert's assurances to the secretary-general are "a clear indication" of Israel's commitment to ensure the safety and security of UN personnel.<br><br>Gillerman said "Israel is carrying out a thorough inquiry into this tragic incident and will inform the UN of its results as soon as possible."<br><br>The UN Security Council was expected to receive a briefing on the bombing on Wednesday.<br><br>Ireland's Foreign Ministry said on Wednesday that an Irish army officer in south Lebanon warned the IDF six times that their attacks in the area were putting the lives of UN observers at risk.<br><br>"On six separate occasions he was in contact with the Israelis to warn them that their bombardment was endangering the lives of UN staff in South Lebanon," a Department of Foreign Affairs spokesman said. <br><br>"He warned: 'You have to address this problem or lives may be lost'," the spokesman said of comments by a senior Irish soldier working as a liaison officer between UN forces in South Lebanon and the Israelis.<br> <br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br> <br> <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Harpie joins the club.

Postby slimmouse » Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:12 pm

<br><br> Harpie joins the league of traitors to humanity.<br><br> All we need now is the Mexican guy on board too. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Harpie joins the club.

Postby havanagilla » Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:19 pm

yeah, just wanted to point to some inconsistencies here and there. while posting here on israel, the word used is "ISRAEL chose/did/bombed..." (someone even wrote "Israel will regret..." whatever, i can't imagine a whole country engaged in regreting, I can see Ulmart deciding and us - namely, many Israelis- eating shit regreting we were born here), <br>BUT- while talking about canada, its "HARPER".<br>I don't mind either being used, as long as we are consistent with regards to "western democracies" (ha ha) in general. <br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=havanagilla>havanagilla</A> at: 7/26/06 5:26 pm<br></i>
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Re: Harpie joins the club.

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:57 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Canadian PM does not believe UN post deliberately targeted by IDF <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Well, yeah..you know, cause like, he was there and shit..<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i></i>
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Re: Harpie joins the club.

Postby bvonahsen » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:11 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>yeah, just wanted to point to some inconsistencies here and there. while posting here on israel, the word used is "ISRAEL chose/did/bombed..." (someone even wrote "Israel will regret..." whatever, i can't imagine a whole country engaged in regreting, I can see Ulmart deciding and us - namely, many Israelis- eating shit regreting we were born here), <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I certainly did not mean to imply that every single Israeli approved of the hit on UN observers. It is common pratice to use a nations name when talking about a government. Especially when we are talking about a democratic nation. <br><br>However it was a deliberate hit. A well marked UN observation point was targeted on purpose. Pilots do not have the option to fire at whatever they want nor are they permitted to fire indescriminatly at unknown targets. The order to fire goes up the line quite a ways and someone somewhere makes a choice.<br><br>This entire war with Hizbolah is a war of choice. Israel and the US have planned for it for some time now. Hizbolah taking hostages was merely a pretext, one they provoked them into. Not that it makes the Hizbolah innocent in any way. There are no innocents in this war. <p></p><i></i>
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Israel and the US ?

Postby slimmouse » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:25 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Israel and the US have planned for it for some time now<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->.<br><br> With respect BV.<br><br> Israel and the US have planned it ?<br><br> And im accused of naievity when talking about atoms ?<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> You speak of global politics when you havent read the latest theories closely ? Such as "The Icke principle" or more recently the "RI" principle.<br><br> Man, its been around for years now. Pick up any decent parapolitical literature. <br><br> Get to the subatomic level man <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=slimmouse@rigorousintuition>slimmouse</A> at: 7/26/06 8:03 pm<br></i>
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