The 2012 "Election" thread

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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:31 pm

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Quick -- someone bump the FUCK OBAMA thread to knock some perspective back into this forum!
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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby justdrew » Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:28 pm

two whole days before the I word comes out. i knew it was coming, but here we go.

of course, why anyone should one a tinkers damn about what this clueless, know-nothing says is beyond me.

Malkin suggests impeachment for Obama’s ‘jihadi-coddling’
Conservative pundit Michelle Malkin on Thursday suggested that President Barack Obama could be punished with impeachment or other “constitutional provisions” for his administration’s “jihadi-coddling” in Libya.

Speaking to Fox News host Sean Hannity just two days after the president was elected to a second term, Malkin said that four Americans had died in Benghazi, Libya because Democrats had a “cynical elevation of their own political self interest above the national interest.”

“Thank goodness we’ve got watchdogs on Capitol Hill that will not rest on behalf these murdered Americans,” she explained. “And all we’re going to hear about is the whining from the Democrats about how it’s the Republicans who are politicizing national security, when it’s their bloody, dirty, corrupt M.O.”

Hannity said that he was convinced that “the president knew and that president lied to the American people” that the deaths in Libya were the result of a terrorist attack.

“Well, there are many constitutional provisions for recourse on this and I think that they have to be contemplated,” Malkin pointed out. “And this administration and this candidate and this president was forced to see signs from people reminding them that they will not forget the seven hours of hell that the murdered Americans went through before they perished in Benghazi!”

“And it’s the same thing with the Camp Bastion attack, which I’ve raised questions about on behalf of murdered Marines in that case and the lack of security, questions about rules of engagement that have been compromised by this politically-correct, jihadi-coddling administration.”
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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby 8bitagent » Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:30 pm

Luther Blissett wrote:
Wombaticus Rex wrote:What is the ecosystem that Rove was operating in on Tuesday night? He really thought -- nay, knew -- that he'd done his homework, I respect the shadenfreude of his Fox News meltdown but it spoke very differently to me...it wasn't a "just desserts" moment: he got the rug pulled out from under him. He had been planning the operation for 2 years and someone made the call to pull the plug. I could mix a few more metaphors, but you grok.

I am very interested in who was in a position to make that call behind Rove's back.


What do you make of the desk crew manning Fox News that night, as compared to the other networks' pulling out all their heaviest hitters and biggest stars? I'm no Fox News expert, but I had never seen either of those people before Election Day.



PURE COMIC GOLD. Rove finally being called on his BS...by fellow Fox News pundits!!!

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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby 82_28 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:47 pm

Who the fuck does Rove's hair? The Fascist Evil Genius Salon located next to the Mullican Flooring joint? Like really? What the fuck is up with these blokes? I just found a pic of my dad from like fucking 1982 as my soccer coach and the whole team standing in front of him. Yeah, a comb over, but Jesus. Rove is a disgrace to even bald dudes in fucking 1982.
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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby 82_28 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:52 pm

And where the fuck is Nordic throughout all this? Jesus Christ, bro. Come back. I can't be the only swearing lib on RI. Too much pressure and I'll have to resign too.
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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby General Patton » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:24 pm

Yeah, it's looking like the Republican party is going to reform into a white party, may try to shift the asians back. They drifted from the 50's to 70's, but they are the least democratic of any minority block and are overtaking hispanics as immigrants. The problem is they are still living in the fiction that the women's vote doesn't matter. They haven't cracked mobile marketing either, where women are early adopters. Even in this election, with Republican "rape candidates", they gained with 18-29 year old women compared to last election:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sp ... ted-States

I'm also seeing Libertarian's meeting with the black/female/asian demographics:
http://www.quantcast.com/libertarianism.com
http://www.quantcast.com/theihs.org
http://www.quantcast.com/lp.org
http://www.quantcast.com/catb.org

Though the numbers are small because the party is tiny.

No one is working directly on veteran's issues either, VA hospitals are horrible and the tech is decades behind the curve. It's possible to actually cut the cost and deliver exponentially better performing, more robust and humane products. But they won't because they are retarded and will keep whining about women even having the right to vote. The whole government handouts thing isn't a problem when you properly organize it. We don't even really want people to be in make-work jobs sapping actual productivity, no matter how hard you try you can't make a baby in 1 month with 9 women. Approval polls put tech companies dramatically ahead of presidential/congressional approval:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/156713/Ameri ... Worst.aspx

Gay rights is still up in the air in the Republican circles. Over time the nature of gender is going to be blurred as tech advances, starting with VR, with serious human body modification 10+ years away. Both of the parties are behind the curve, neither of them have a grasp on the future of economic, social and political power. Voter apathy isn't surprising. An entirely new metagame is forming.

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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby 8bitagent » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:29 pm

82_28 wrote:And where the fuck is Nordic throughout all this? Jesus Christ, bro. Come back. I can't be the only swearing lib on RI. Too much pressure and I'll have to resign too.


I think people are just tired. That and I think some of the anti Obama from the left talk scared folks off. Either way, we should be 20 pages extra in deep since Tuesday...though deep down I think everyone knew Obama would win. Heck South Park banked on Obama winning for last week's episode
http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-ep ... obama-wins

I'm trying to be a good be a good boy and hold off on any criticism of Obama or government issues to continue basking in the right wing/GOP implosion going on. It's like watching the Death Star explode.
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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby Elvis » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:32 pm

82_28, you're fucking right about the re-motherfucking-nunciation of the right wing 'greed is smart' motherfuckers.

I just read that the word charity means fuckin' love:

Etymology

The word "charity" entered the English language through the Old French word "charité" which was derived from the Latin "caritas".[1]

Originally in Latin the word caritas meant preciousness, dearness, high price. From this, in Christian theology, caritas became the standard Latin translation for the Greek word agapē, meaning an unlimited loving-kindness to all others[citation needed]. This much wider concept is the meaning of the word charity in the Christian triplet "faith, hope and charity", as used by the Douay-Rheims and the King James Version of the Bible in their translation of St Paul's Letter to the Corinthians. However the English word more generally used for this concept, both before and since (and by the "King James" Bible at other passages), is the more direct love. (See the article Charity (virtue))
St Paul's agapē was not primarily about good works and giving to the poor[dubious – discuss] (And though I feed the poor with all my goods, and though I give my body, that I be burned, and have not love [agapē], it profiteth me nothing - 1 Cor 13:3, Geneva translation, 1560), although in English the word "charity" has steadily acquired this as its primary meaning, wherein it was first used in Old French at least since the year 1200 A.D..

There are three different kinds of charity: pure, public, and foreign. Pure charity is entirely gratuitous. Public charity is charity that benefits the whole rather than the individual. Foreign charity is when the beneficiary lives in a country different from where the funds or services are being sent from.[2]


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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby Elvis » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:51 pm

If Rove was "guaranteed" a win, I wonder if the defeat amounts to a double-cross and someone gets whacked, like Mike Connell did. I'm keeping one eye open for any plane crashes, hotel balcony leaps etc. in that arena.

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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby JackRiddler » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:55 pm

The electronic voting machines and the electoral college have got to go, but no one much is going to devote another thought to it until 2016. (A lot more has to go.)
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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby justdrew » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:05 am

82_28 wrote:And where the fuck is Nordic throughout all this? Jesus Christ, bro. Come back. I can't be the only swearing lib on RI. Too much pressure and I'll have to resign too.


speaking of "where is" - where's that Hammer of Los gotten to?
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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby 8bitagent » Sat Nov 10, 2012 3:26 am

Elvis wrote:If Rove was "guaranteed" a win, I wonder if the defeat amounts to a double-cross and someone gets whacked, like Mike Connell did. I'm keeping one eye open for any plane crashes, hotel balcony leaps etc. in that arena.

:coolshades



Crap, forgot about that.

"In July 2008, the lead attorney in the King Lincoln Bronzeville Neighborhood Association v. Blackwell case, Cliff Arnebeck, sent a letter [3] to U.S. Attorney General Michael Mukasey seeking protection for Connell as a witness in the case, saying he had been threatened."

I'm trying to get away from my own dogma. I now believe it's possible, actually likely there's competing factions. I don't believe it's "two puppets of the same party". Clearly, you DONT put down billions for a candidate and NOT want to win. In fact I saw more footage of Rove way after Obama won still talking about "well there's still a few counties we KNOW will vote Republican". "Romney will win Ohio by a squeaker". Haha, sure Rove...
But yeah, maybe they were set to flip it for Romney but the volume of Dem voting was just too high. Too risky. Or they crossed Rove. He sure looked like a damn fool Tuesday night.

I think Tuesday also brought us all closer. I'm sick knowing all the pre election bullshit we were yelling at eachother for. Of course noone likes drones and all that, but this was about much bigger things.
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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby Jerky » Sat Nov 10, 2012 4:24 am

I saw that Obama clip on TV, with better clarity. There were clearly tears coming from BOTH eyes, if that makes you feel any better.

Jeez.
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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby Jerky » Sat Nov 10, 2012 5:13 am

This just in, and it's TOO RICH, maaan... Karl Rove says Romney got beat because "OBAMA SUPPRESSED THE VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Un-fucking-believable, no? At least this sticks to his tactic of "attacking the strength" of his opponent (like calling into question Kerry's military record when BUSH was his candidate).

Hold your nose, check your gorge and click for more...

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/ ... g-the-vote
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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby justdrew » Sat Nov 10, 2012 5:20 am

weird one here ...

Felines of confusion
IT ace says he didn’t steal Romney tax returns – and those cats aren’t his
By M.L. Nestel Friday, November 9, 2012

The election is over, but fur is still flying in the case of Mitt Romney’s pilfered tax returns.

Federal authorities have searched the home of a Tennessee IT specialist and former Obama campaign volunteer after following up on some purr-fectly adorable evidence: two photos of house cats found on a thumb drive that was mailed to Romney’s accounting firm along with a note demanding $1 million for the return of the documents.

Michael Brown, 34, told The Daily that about 30 Secret Service agents, some with guns drawn, broke down the door of his Franklin, Tenn., home, at dawn on Sept. 14, handcuffed him and his wife and grilled the couple about their knowledge of the scheme.

“They said, ‘You’re being detained. We’re here looking for Romney’s tax returns,’ ” said Brown. In early September, the FBI and Secret Service announced they were investigating the apparent theft of two decades worth of Mitt and Ann Romney’s tax returns from a server belonging to accounting giant PricewaterhouseCoopers. The thieves demanded the ransom in untraceable online currency.

The agents seized his computers and told Brown they had numerous pieces of evidence against him — including the digital snapshots of two cats. The note demanding $1 million, along with the flash drive containing the photos, was sent to PriceWaterHouseCoopers. Although the ransom was not paid, the tax returns were never released to the public, as threatened.

After being told of the raid at Brown’s house, Secret Service spokesman Brian Leary told The Daily it was part of an “ongoing investigation.”

According to Brown, the agents separated the couple and questioned his wife about the photos of the cats.

“They didn’t want to show anything to me. They did it to my wife. They said, ‘These are your cats,’” he said. “When she objected, they were like, ‘Yes, they are.’ ”

During the raid, an agent even snapped photos of the Brown family’s two pet cats, Baxter, a Himalayan longhair, and Jesse, an orange tabby.

But the Brown family cats were not the ones in the photographs, said Brown.

While Brown maintains his innocence, he said cats in the photos the feds are showing around belong to a family friend and a former client of his, Janine Bolin.

“My daughter did recognize one of the cats. They belonged to a friend of my wife. She has five or six kids and lives in a house in Franklin, as well,” said Brown, who once serviced Bolin’s computer. “It was a desktop computer that was having issues starting up.” As part of the service, Brown backed up her photos and documents on a thumb drive.

Federal agents seized Bolin’s computers after the felines in the photos were identified, she confirmed to The Daily. “They showed me photos and asked me if those were my cats,” she said. “I remember taking those photos. I told them that when they were there.”

So how did the flash drive — according to Brown, authorities told him it was once also connected to one of his computers — end up in the middle of an extortion plot?

The self-employed web consultant and IT expert is pleading ignorance.

“They have a flash drive that I believe belonged to me four years ago. In my line of work, I use these flash drives all the time. They get lost or they get taken.”

Bolin speculated that the flash drive may have been thrown away and recovered by someone picking through the garbage. “There are people who go around our neighborhood looking for scrap metal,” she said. “Anybody could have picked it up.”

Brown’s home also was raided by federal authorities in 2009 in a case related to the theft of data from an insurance company, but he was never charged in the matter. And while he did IT work for President Obama’s campaign in 2008, he claimed he was not active in the 2012 race.

“Somehow someone got ahold of the flash drive and used it for the stolen tax returns,” he said. “And of course they don’t care what’s on there, because they don’t care who owned it before.”

Brown, whose name was first reported by a Tennessee NBC affiliate, has since set up a website seeking donations to support his family while he waits for the investigation to play out. While he speaks of a hope that the “real” criminals will be caught, he also acknowledges that feds seem to be focused on him.

“They told me they planned on charging me with this crime.”
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