How Bad Is Global Warming?

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Postby wintler2 » Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:51 am

Stubborn US drought could be costlier than hurricane Sandy
Less than 18 months after the US Army Corps of Engineers blasted gaps in a levee on the Mississippi River to cope with a record flood, it's getting ready to detonate explosives for the opposite reason – to clear rock outcroppings on the bottom of the drought-depleted waterway so cargo can keep moving.

"From one extreme to another in just the space of 12, 15, 16 months? It's just incredible," says Richard Heim, a drought specialist at the National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C.
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Even in a year that saw hurricane Sandy, the drought could be the headline severe-weather event of 2012.

Initial estimates range from $60 billion to $100 billion, with a first official estimate from the US Department of Agriculture expected in February, says Steven Cain, a specialist with Purdue University's Agriculture Communications Service in West Lafayette, Ind. By some estimates, Sandy inflicted at least $75 billion in damage.

So far, hurricane Katrina in 2005 tops the costly-weather-event list at about $108 billion. Still, Mr. Cain says, the country faces the prospect of dealing with what are likely to be two of the three most expensive weather-related disasters on record – in the same year.


2 of the US' 3 costliest weather disasters ever, happened this year. And the drought is not over.
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Re: How Bad Is Global Warming?

Postby Ben D » Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:20 pm

It is not proven science at this stage that severe weather events are linked to global warming. Yes the claim is being made, but so are the counter claims, so I think it best if this thread dealt with the essential facts underpinning the science.

However since the post above has been made, here is a response for balanced consideration.

Now we have all read stories in the msm about the increased frequency and the costliness of hurricane damage due to global warming, but is it a scientific fact?

Not according to the historical records, this paper published in the American Meteorological Society does not support that implication. Now while it's true the costs of severe weather events have, are, and will probably continue to go up, this is due to other factors the paper refers to...societal changes such as increasing wealth, increased infrastructures, structures, population, etc.

Historical Global Tropical Cyclone Landfalls - AMS

Abstract

In recent decades, economic damage from tropical cyclones (TCs) around the world has increased dramatically. Scientific literature published to date finds that the increase in losses can be explained entirely by societal changes (such as increasing wealth, structures, population, etc.) in locations prone to tropical cyclone landfalls, rather than by changes in annual storm frequency or intensity.
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Unfortunately the paper is paywalled, but there is more here...

http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com.au/2012/12/global-tropical-cyclone-landfalls-2012.html

Anyone who'd like to argue that the world is experiencing a "new normal" with respect to tropical cyclones is simply mistaken. Over the past 4 years, the world is actually in the midst of a very low period in tropical cyclone landfalls -- at least as measured over the past 43 years.

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Re: How Bad Is Global Warming?

Postby compared2what? » Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:42 am

Ben D wrote:]Unfortunately the paper is paywalled, but there is more here...

http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com.au/2012/12/global-tropical-cyclone-landfalls-2012.html

Anyone who'd like to argue that the world is experiencing a "new normal" with respect to tropical cyclones is simply mistaken. Over the past 4 years, the world is actually in the midst of a very low period in tropical cyclone landfalls -- at least as measured over the past 43 years.



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Hm. Forty-three years....

That's a peculiar number. I wonder why he chose it as the cut-off point.
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To add insult to injury, he's kind of rebutting a non-claim. Oops. No, he's not.

The official word on hurricanes is:


* Since 1878, about six to seven hurricanes have formed in the North Atlantic every year. Roughly two per year make landfall in the United States. The total number of hurricanes (particularly after being adjusted for improvements in observation methods) and the number reaching the United States do not indicate a clear overall trend since 1878 [/b](see Figure 1).

* According to the total annual ACE Index, cyclone intensity has risen noticeably over the past 20 years, and six of the 10 most active years have occurred since the mid-1990s (see Figure 2). Relatively high levels of cyclone activity were also seen during the 1950s and 1960s.

* The PDI (see Figure 3) shows fluctuating cyclone intensity for most of the mid- to late 20th century, followed by a noticeable increase since 1995 (similar to the ACE Index). These trends are associated with variations in sea surface temperature in the tropical Atlantic (see Figure 2).


I was being sloppy, sorry. Here's the Figure 2 to which they're referring:

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* Despite the apparent increases in tropical cyclone activity in Figures 2 and 3, changes in observation methods over time make it difficult to know for certain whether tropical storm activity has actually shown a long-term increase.



So it's a little ambiguous, but apparently up.

Precipitation, on the other hand, is clearly up:

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Worldwide, too:

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And so's the temperature, of course:

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LINK to the EPA site, which is where the text and charts came from.
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Re: How Bad Is Global Warming?

Postby Ben D » Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:52 am

C2W, you do know that the scientific paper published by the American Meteorological Society is a global cyclone/hurricane study , not just a regional, i.e. the North Atlantic and the contiguous 48 states of the US which the EPA hurricane data is about?

If so, do you think your post comparing the global hurricane data with a regional hurricane data set and debunking the global data on the basis of differences with the regional data set would pass muster on a scientific forum? Or even on RI for that matter?
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Re: How Bad Is Global Warming?

Postby compared2what? » Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:02 am

Ben D wrote:C2W, you do know that the scientific paper published by the American Meteorological Society is a global cyclone/hurricane study , not just a regional, i.e. the North Atlantic and the contiguous 48 states of the US which the EPA hurricane data is about?


Honestly, I didn't notice that he used global data. That is just SO Roger-Pielke-Jr. of him.

Funny.

If so, do you think your post comparing the global hurricane data with a regional hurricane data set and debunking the global data on the basis of differences with the regional data set would pass muster on a scientific forum? Or even on RI for that matter?



Yes, I think it would pass muster as a representation of hurricane trends just about anywhere. "Hurricane" generally means "North Atlantic tropical cyclone," as in "hurricane season." And anyway, it's clearly labeled.
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Re: How Bad Is Global Warming?

Postby Ben D » Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:46 am

compared2what? wrote:
Ben D wrote:C2W, you do know that the scientific paper published by the American Meteorological Society is a global cyclone/hurricane study , not just a regional, i.e. the North Atlantic and the contiguous 48 states of the US which the EPA hurricane data is about?


Honestly, I didn't notice that he used global data. That is just SO Roger-Pielke-Jr. of him.

Funny.

If so, do you think your post comparing the global hurricane data with a regional hurricane data set and debunking the global data on the basis of differences with the regional data set would pass muster on a scientific forum? Or even on RI for that matter?



Yes, I think it would pass muster as a representation of hurricane trends just about anywhere. "Hurricane" generally means "North Atlantic tropical cyclone," as in "hurricane season." And anyway, it's clearly labeled.

If in fact you were making a joke for missing it, my apologies for not understanding you well enough....

What has Roger-Pielke-Jr done to cause you to not notice that the scientific paper published by Jessica Weinkle, Ryan Maue, and himself, which was clearly titled Historical Global Tropical Cyclone Landfalls, was truly about Global Tropical cyclones? Do you think there could be other people besides yourself whom would also have been affected to think the study about Global tropical cyclones was really about North Atlantic hurricanes due to the fact that Roger-Pielke-Jr was associated in the study?

No, your post of rebuttal would never pass muster, do you think that 'North Atlantic hurricanes (anti-cyclones)' represents the same reality that 'Global tropical cyclones' represents? No, you would be laughed on a science forum,..seriously! And if you persisted in maintaining that position, you would be banned for being a troll.
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Re: How Bad Is Global Warming?

Postby compared2what? » Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:31 am

Ben D wrote:
No, your post of rebuttal would never pass muster, do you think that 'North Atlantic hurricanes (anti-cyclones)' represents the same reality that 'Global tropical cyclones' represents? No, you would be laughed on a science forum,..seriously! And if you persisted in maintaining that position, you would be banned for being a troll.


Fine. I stand corrected.
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Re: How Bad Is Global Warming?

Postby wintler2 » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:29 am

Costliest weather disasters in the US - 2 out of 3 - this year.

With stagnant/shrinking GDP and ailing financial markets, where will insurers get the cash? IIRC in US crop insurance is another market failure/ govt provided, so maybe the drought portion wont be such a big hit on say, commercial real estate values, as insurers wont need to sell as many assets. Still, if i worked in insurance, i'd be retraining.
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Re: How Bad Is Global Warming?

Postby fruhmenschen » Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:22 pm

Well folks, just saw the new documentary CHASING ICE and gotta tell you all I am packing my bags
and taking the next shuttle to the ISS.

This film is a cinch to win the 2012 Academy Award for Best Documentary.
Any Global Warming/Holocaust denier should get the message in this film.
Put this movie on your bucket list now, if we live that long,

Imagine if Ansel Adams had made a film about Global Warming,
Jaw dropping cinematography and still film shots.
Watching a glacier calve/break off a piece of ice larger than lower Manhattan, eh?

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Re: How Bad Is Global Warming?

Postby Ben D » Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:37 pm

Yeh fru, many people get their reality from a video screen, good luck with that...
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Postby fruhmenschen » Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:56 pm

Ben D wrote:Yeh fru, many people get their reality from a video screen, good luck with that...



Ah, caught again in Science delicto from the poster child for Exxon Mobil.



I suppose I do get some of my knowledge about FBI agents from video, eh?




READING LIST
annotated bibliography


Bari, Judi. TIMBER WARS. Monroe, Maine: Common Courage Press, 1994.
The F.B.I. attempted to stop the political activity of Judi Bari and Daryl Cherney by exploding a
bomb under their car. Daryl Cherney and Judi Bari filed a Civil lawsuit
against the FBI and Oakland police. A jury awarded them $4.4 million
dollars in 2003. see www.judibari.org

Bowen Roger. INNOCENCE IS NOT ENOUGH: The Life and Death of Herbert Norman
New York USA M.E. Sharpe Inc 1988
Looks at FBI assassination of Herbert Norman, Canadian Ambassador to Egypt.

Buitrago, Ann Mari. F.B.I. FILES. Grove Press, 1981.
Covers the procedures for obtaining and interpreting your F.B.I. file.

Burnham, David. ABOVE THE LAW. Scribner, 1996.
Looks at secret deals and fixing of cases by the Justice Department for corporations.
Burnham was the New York Times reporter who broke the story about New York City cop Serpico and Police corruption.
He was the reporter on route to meet Karen Silkwood when she was found murdered. Read his other book A LAW UNTO ITSELF.
It details how FBI agents collaborate with the IRS to target political activists.
see his important website about the FBI
here http://trac.syr.edu/

Burnham, David A LAW UNTO ITSELF Vintage January 30, 1991 ISBN-10: 0679732837
Exposes FBI agents using the IRS to cripple political activists.


Buttino, Frank. A SPECIAL AGENT. William Morrow, 1993.
Investigates F.B.I. attacks on gay FBI agents .
This book is written by a FBI agent who is gay. It details how other FBI
agents tormented him .

Carson, Clayborne. MALCOLM X: THE F.B.I. FILE. Carroll & Graf, 1991.
Looks at the evidence for the F.B.I. assassination of Malcolm X.

Cashill,Jack, Sanders,James. FIRST STRIKE Thomas Nelson Press, 2003
Overwhelming evidence presented by Dr. Cashill on the downing of TWA
Flight 800 by a missle over Long Island and the ensuing cover-up by FBI
agents.One of my favorite books. see their documentary about the same
subject called SILENCED here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44uu4zWQEEs

Charns, Alexander. CLOAK AND GAVEL. University of Illinois Press. 1992.
After reviewing thousands of pages of FBI documents the attorney author
exposes the FBI illegal phone tapping of the Supreme Court and how the
FBI fix court cases and work behind the scenes to get "their man"
appointed to the Supreme Court. Written by a lawyer active in Human
Rights.

Churchill, Ward. AGENTS OF REPRESSION. South End Press, 1988.
Professor Churchill gives first hand accounts of F.B.I. death squad
activities. This book is a classic and is a must read along with THE
COINTELPRO PAPERS

Churchill, Ward. THE COINTELPRO PAPERS. South End Press, 1990.
Explores how the F.B.I. disrupts legitimate political activities and engage in Death Squad activities.

Criley, Richard. THE F.B.I. VS. THE FIRST AMENDMENT. First Amendment Foundation, 1990.
Looks at the destruction of the First Amendment by the F.B.I.

Davis, John. MAFIA KINGFISH: CARLOS MARCELLO AND THE ASSASSINATION OF JOHN F.
KENNEDY. McGraw-Hill, 1989.
A must read book in understanding how the FBI has used the Mafia to carry out the assassination of President Kennedy.

De Camp, John. THE FRANKLIN COVERUP. AWT Publishers, 1992.
A former Republican state senator from Nebraska writes about a
pedophile ring involved in the kidnaping, sexual torture and murder of
children that went all the way to the Bush White House.
Attorney DeCamp discusses the FBI role in the coverup of this case and
the murder of a special prosecutor appointed to investigate the
pedophile ring.This book will keep you awake at night and is an active
barometer for evil indexing how the FBI crime family operates.

Dempsey, James X. and David Cole. TERRORISM AND THE CONSTITUTION: SACRIFICING CIVIL
LIBERTIES IN THE NAME OF NATIONAL SECURITY. Los Angeles, CA: First Amendment
Foundation, 1999. Examines FBI campaign of terror to undermine civil
liberties. Attorney Dempsey worked for Congressman Don Edwards who was
a former FBI agent.

Diamond, Sigmund. COMPROMISED CAMPUS. Oxford University Press, 1992.
Professor Diamond attempts to get F.B.I. files showing collaboration
between F.B.I. agents and professors at universities from 1945-1955.
The FBI created the Patriot Act , in part, because of this book.

Donner, Frank. PROTECTORS OF PRIVILEGE. University of California Press, 1990.
Looks at the death squad collaboration between local police and F.B.I. agents to stifle the Bill of Rights.

Dwyer, James. TWO SECONDS UNDER THE WORLD. Diane publishers 1997.
The most important book you will read on understanding FBI agents Floyd
and Anticev creating the 1993 terrorist act at the World Trade Center.
This book lays out in detail how the FBI engineered
the 1993 World Trade Center explosion.

Edmonds, Sibel D Classified Woman-The Sibel Edmonds Story: A Memoir
2012 Sibel D Edmonds publisher
In this startling new memoir, former FBI agent/analyst Sibel Edmonds—the most classified woman in U.S. history—takes us on a surreal journey that begins with the secretive FBI and down the dark halls of a feckless Congress to a stonewalling judiciary and finally, to the national security whistleblowers movement she spearheaded.


Emerson, Steven and Brian Duffy. THE FALL OF PAN AM 103. G.B. Putnam's Sons, 1990.
Oliver Revell was the number 2 man at the F.B.I. until he was demoted
by F.B.I. Director William Sessions to the Dallas Field Office. His son
Chris Revell had tickets for Pan Am 103, but he changed his flight two days before the plane
exploded over Lockerbie, Scotland. See Ross Gelbspan's book, BREAK-INS,
DEATH THREATS AND THE FBI to get a fuller picture of Oliver Revell.

Foerstel, Herbert. SURVEILLANCE IN THE STACKS. Greenwood Press, 1991.
Looks at attempts by the F.B.I. to get librarians to spy on the American public .The FBI created the Library Clauses in the Patriot Act because of this book.

Gallagher, Dorothy. ALL THE RIGHT ENEMIES. Penguin Books, 1988.
The F.B.I. utilized the Mafia to carry out its executions against Presidents and political activists from 1930 through 2000.
Carlos Tresca was one of their victims.

Gelbspan, Ross. BREAK- INS, DEATH THREATS, AND THE F.B.I. South End Press, 1991.
This Pulitzer Prize winning reporter formerly with the Boston Globe,
details the F.B.I. death squad collaboration with the death squads in
El Salvador and their attacks upon American groups opposed to those
death squads.

Glick, Brian. WAR AT HOME. South End Press, 1989.
Attorney Glick details the F.B.I.’s covert war against political activists.

Goulet, Donald Chesuncook Author House 2008
Autobiography of a FBI agent plagued by mental illness.

Hoffman, David. THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING AND THE POLITICS OF TERROR. Feral
House, 1998.
Contains detailed evidence about the FBI alliance with the terrorist
underworld, and how FBI agent provocateurs are behind many of the
current bombings that have plagued the United States since the fall of
the Berlin Wall. Some current thinking has FBI agents creating these
acts to fill the void caused by the downfall of communism and replacing
communism with the new boogeyman Islam.

Holland, Max . Leak: Why Mark Felt Became Deep Throat
Deep Throat FBI Supervisor Mark Felt, the number two guy in the FBI during Watergate, was leaking, not out of concern for public good but rather because he was angry he was not getting the top spot in the bureau
University Press Kansas 2012

Hougan, Jim. SPOOKS. William Morrow, 1978.
Important book detailing the life of former F.B.I. agent Robert Maheux
and his relationship with the Mafia. Groundbreaking book in
understanding FBI collaboration with the Mafia, using it to carry out
assassinations on President Kennedy, Martin Luther King and others.
Maheux was the liason between the Mafia and the FBI when the FBI assassinated President Kennedy and Martin Luther King.



Kaiser, Marty . Odyssey of an Eavesdropper( My Life in electronic
countermeasures and my battle against the FBI) W Carroll & Graf 2005
Author exposes wiretapping crimes committed by FBI agents as well as
Business Fraud. He built the wiretapping devices for FBI agents that
were later used in crimes committed against people like Martin Luther
King and public officials.After exposing FBI agents kickback schemes to
Congress the author became a target of retaliation by tax payer funded
FBI agents. see http://www.martykaiser.com/odyssey2.htm

Keith, Jim. OK BOMB. Illuminate, 1996.
Explores FBI coverup in the Oklahoma City bombing investigation.

Kelly, John F. TAINTING EVIDENCE. The Free Press 1998. The book is
based on testimony of FBI lab Whistleblower Dr. Frederick Whitehurst ,
an employee of the FBI for 17 years. Shows how bad the FBI Lab is run.
Dr. Whitehurst was the chemist who analyzed Timothy McVeigh's clothes
for traces of ammonium nitrate and was removed from the case when he
did not find any bomb residue.
see
http://www.whistleblowers.org/index.php ... Itemid=108


Lehr, Dick & O'Neill, Gerard. BLACK MASS. Public Affairs, 2000.
Looks at the FBI's collaboration in Boston with the Mafia and Irish Mob
between 1960 and 2001 in which they collaborated in the murder of 21
women,children and men. Important book showing how the FBI uses the
Mafia to commit political and other assassinations .see
http://www.thebrothersbulger.com/


Lindauer, Susan Extreme Prejudice: The Terrifying Story of the Patriot Act and the Cover Ups of 9/11 and Iraq 2010 Susan Lindauer publisher
More evidence showing the FBI, CIA and other government agencies created 911.
What if the government decided to invent a great lie to justify a disastrous war and a questionable anti-terrorism policy? What would happen to the people who know the truth? EXTREME PREJUDICE delivers an explosive, high tension expose of the real facts surrounding the CIA's advance warnings of 9/11 and an insider's look at Pre-War Intelligence, told by one of the very few U.S. Assets covering Iraq before the War.


McGhee , Millie WHAT'S DONE IN THE DARK Allen Morris 2005
The author is a afro american relative of FBI Director J Edgar Hoover
who is successful in presenting evidence that FBI Director Hoover is part African-American
and related to her.
The book details the research conducted by Ms McGhee and how FBI agents tried to stop her from writing the book. Photographs show reunion of white and black relatives united by the research in this book. FBI Director J Edgar Hoover was the descendant of Mississippi slaves.

Melanson, Phillip. THE MURKIN CONSPIRACY. Praeger, 1989.
Professor Melanson looks at the F.B.I.’s role in the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Melanson, Phillip. THE ROBERT KENNEDY ASSASSINATION. Shapolsky, 1991.
Professor Melanson was in charge of the Robert Kennedy archives at the University of Massachusetts.
He detailed the F.B.I.’s role as one of the principal architects in the assassination of Robert Kennedy.

Messerschmidt, Jim. THE TRIAL OF LEONARD PELTIER. South End Press, 1983.
Looks at the miscarriage of justice in the F.B.I.’s handling of the Leonard Peltier case.

Morrow, Robert First Hand Knowledge: How I Participated in the CIA-Mafia Murder of President Kennedy (New York: S.P.I. Books, 1992)

Oklahoma City Bombing Investigative Committee. THE FINAL REPORT.2001.
The book providing evidence of FBI involvement in the Oklahoma City
Bombing .

Navasky, Victor. INVESTIGATING THE F.B.I. Doubleday, 1973.
Contains material presented at a major conference at Princeton University in 1971 investigating
crimes committed by the FBI.


Neff, James. MOBBED UP. Dell Publishers 1988.
Important book in understanding FBI collaboration with the Mafia
especially how the Bureau uses the Mafia to carry out its political
assassinations.

Nelson, Jack. THE F.B.I. AND THE BERRIGANS. Coward, McCann & Geoghegan, 1972.
Looks at F.B.I. death squad directed against Nobel Peace Prize nominee Phil Berrigan and his
brother, Jesuit priest Daniel Berrigan.

Olsen, Jack. LAST MAN STANDING: THE TRAGEDY AND TRIUMPH OF GERONIMO PRATT.
Doubleday, 2000.
Provides supporting evidence for the idea of the F.B.I. as a death
squad. Examines the F.B.I. acts of genocide against Afro-Americans .
Looks at how FBI agents framed Geronimo Pratt, a Afro American Viet-nam
vet who spent over 25 years in prison before a judge released him
saying he was innocent and framed by FBI agents.
Vermont filmaker has issued a 4 DVD collection of her films
about the Black Panthers. She interviews retired FBI agent
Wesley Swearingen who was part of the FBI Racial Squad in San Fransisco that put Pratt in prison see http://www.newsreel.us/

O’Reilly, Kenneth. RACIAL MATTERS. Free Press, 1989.
Professor O’Reilly looks at a file called Racial Matters that the F.B.I. is keeping on Black America.


Parenti, Michael. DIRTY TRUTHS. City Lights Books, 1996.
Dr. Parenti looks at the evidence for F.B.I. involvement in the
assassination of labor leader Walter Reuther while he was organizing
protests against the Vietnam War. It includes the essay “Why the Left
is Afraid to look at the Assassination of JFK” .

Pepper, William. ORDERS TO KILL. Carroll and Graf, 1995.
Attorney Pepper represented James Earl Ray in his bid for a new trial
and won a landmark case in civil court in December 1999 for the Martin
Luther King Jr. family. The jury in the case concluded hat the F.B.I.
was involved in the assassination of King. His book details our
government’s involvement and provides photographic evidence of the
F.B.I.’s role in this assassination.



Pepper,William. ACT OF STATE: THE EXECUTION OF MARTIN LUTHER KING Verso Press, 2003
The evidence from the 1999 Civil Trial in Memphis brought by the King
family in which the jury concluded FBI agents were principal architects
in the assassination of Martin Luther King. Written by the trial
attorney William Pepper.

Powers, Richard Gid. SECRECY AND POWER. Free Press, 1987.
A biography of FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover and his quest for power.

Powers, Tyrone. EYES TO MY SOUL. Majority Press, 1996.
Professor Powers an afro-american, talks about his 9 years working as
an F.B.I. agent, and the racism in the FBI . Powers discusses the FBI
FRUHMENSCHEN program set up in the 1920's thru 2010 to target black
politicians in sting operations without cause because the FBI feels
blacks are incpable of governing. White agents tried to kill him when
he was writing this book by blowing up his FBI issued car with him in
it..

Ranalli, Ralph. DEADLY ALLIANCE. Harper Torch, 2001
Boston Globe reporter Ralph Rannali exposes FBI collaboration with the
Boston Mafia from 1930-2009 where they ran a Murder Inc. President Bush
asserted Executive Privilege in 2002 preventing
Congress from seeing the Federal Prosecutor’s Investigative files on this case.

Robbins, Natalie. ALIEN INK. William Morrow, 1992.
Ms. Robbins acquired the F.B.I. files on the major writers and artists of the 20th century, and examines F.B.I. agents neutralizing them and their freedom of expression.

Rosenfeld, Seth, The FBI's War on Student Radicals, and Reagan's Rise to (Farrar, Straus and Giroux, Hardcover August 21, 2012

Schultz, Bud and Ruth. IT DID HAPPEN HERE. University of California Press, 1989.
Contains interviews with human rights activists who survived F.B.I. assassination attempts.


Schultz, Bud and Ruth. THE PRICE OF DISSENT. University of California Press , 2001
The sequel to IT DID HAPPEN HERE with more interviews with civil rights activists , union organizers and anti-war protestors who survived FBI assassination attempts and with family members of people who were murdered.

Seymour, Sheri. COMMITTEE OF THE STATES. Self-published, 1989.
The F.B.I. infiltrated the California Militia 10 years before the Oklahoma City bombing. The book illustrates how easy it was for the F.B.I. to infiltrate the group and get it to make bombs.
Shows how easy it was for FBI agent provocteur to get Timothy McVeigh to make bomb and drive the truck. The exact same scenario
occured in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. google floyd
anticev salem

Sharkey, Joe. ABOVE SUSPICION. Simon & Schuster, 1993.
Looks at the F.B.I. coverup involving one of its own agents Mark Putnam, who murdered his informant after he got her pregnant.
FBI agent Putnam was eventually sentenced to prison for their murder thanks to the dogged work of the Kentucky State Police.
click link and scroll down to obituary of his wife. http://betrayedbylovemovie.blogspot.com/

Sherill, Robert First Amendment Felon Nation Books, 10/2005
The Story of Frank Wilkinson, His 132,000 Page FBI File and His Epic Fight for Civil Rights and Liberties


Suarez, Manuel. REQUIEM ON CERRO MARAVILLA. Waterfront Press, 1987.
Looks at F.B.I. collaboration with local police in the arrest, handcuffing, and death squad execution of two teenagers in Puerto Rico.

Summers, Anthony. OFFICIAL AND CONFIDENTIAL. G.B. Putnam and Sons, 1993.
This is the book on which the PBS Frontline documentary on J. Edgar Hoover and his friendship with the Mafia is based. In my eyes, this PBS program was the turning point in the good fortune the FBI has enjoyed for over 80 years.

Swearingen, Wesley. F.B.I. Secrets: An Agents Expose South End Press 1994
Swearingen is a retired FBI agent currently living in the San Diego area who was a member
of the FBI San Fransisco Office racial Squad.
The FBI has Racial Squads in every major American City. The function of the FBI Racial Squad is to assassinate or neutralize
black politicians and black activists who do not reflect the philosophy of American Corporations. Vermont filmaker Roz Payne has
interviewed Swearingen and he is on her recently released 4 DVD about the Black Panthers see http://www.newsreel.us/


Swearingen,Wesley, To Kill a President: Finally – an Ex-FBI Agent Rips Aside the Veil of Secrecy that Killed JFK 2006
According to Swearingen, Lee Harvey Oswald did not act alone in assassinating Kennedy as was claimed by the FBI, the Warren Commission and other investigating bodies. Instead, he argues that rogue CIA agents acting in concert with the mafia and certain Cuban exiles plotted to kill Kennedy. Swearingen contends that the conspiracy was covered up by the FBI, an effort that continues to this day through the agency's unwillingness to disclose key details about the events surrounding Kennedy's death. see http://www.lewrockwell.com/pr/new-book- ... lling.html

Theoharis, Athan. THE F.B.I. Garland Publishers, 1994.
Professor Theoharis has compiled a comprehensive listing of books and articles about the F.B.I. up to 1994.

Thomas, Kenn. THE OCTOPUS. Feral House, 1996.
Investigates the F.B.I.’s role in the killing of investigative reporter Danny Casolero while he was investigating the October Surprise.

Turner, William. THE ASSASSINATION OF ROBERT KENNEDY. Thunder Mouth Press, 1993.
Written by a former F.B.I. agent, it looks at the F.B.I.’s involvement in the assassination of Robert Kennedy.

Turner, William. REARVIEW MIRROR foreword by Oliver Stone. Penmarin Books CA 2001.
More updated information on FBI involvement in President Kennedy, Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King Assassination written by a former FBI agent.

U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. WHO IS GUARDING THE GUARDIANS? A Report on Police
Death Squad activities. 1981.


Williams, Dennis O. Fidelity Bravery Integrity No Way! Dorrance Publishing Company 2009

In 1979 FBI Supervisory Special Agent Dennis O. Williams moved across the country when he was promoted from the FBI’s Los Angeles Division to a supervisory position at FBI Headquarters. Soon after his arrival, Williams discovered that the mover had defrauded the FBI by billing for a higher weight of his household goods than actually existed. As Williams pursued the matter, he discovered a cover-up at FBI HQ; his attempts to expose this conspiracy resulted in his receiving threats and becoming the subject of retaliation. Though an investigation by the FBI Washington Field Office demonstrated that Williams was correct in his suspicions, the cover-ups continued for decades, eventually leading to a conspiracy to deceive the Senate Judiciary Committee regarding an inquiry into the involvement of Thomas J. Pickard.

Pickard was the acting director of the FBI when 9/11 occurred, despite Williams’ repeated warnings to the White House that Pickard did not have the integrity for such a position. The 9/11 Commission report reflects that the Phoenix Division of the FBI produced a memorandum dated July 10, 2001, advising FBI HQ that an inordinate number of supporters of Osama Bin Laden had attended civil aviation universities and colleges and would be in a position to conduct terror activity against civil aviation targets. Williams believes that Pickard’s testimony that no managers at FBI headquarters saw the Phoenix memo before September 11 constitutes a red flag indicating a conspiracy to defraud the 9/11 Commission.



Williams , Kristian
Our Enemies in Blue Police and Power in America (Revised Edition)
South End Press 2007

Wiener, Jon. GIMME SOME TRUTH. University of California Press, 1999.
Professor Wiener looks at the 14 year battle with the F.B.I. to get them to release their files on John Lennon.How many rock stars
has the FBI assassinated?

Wise, David TIGER TRAP America’s Secret Spy War With China
Houghton Mifflin Harcourt.2011
Looks at how FBI agents were manipulated by Chinese spies after FBI agents started having sex with their Chinese informants

SUGGESTED WEB SITES AND VIDEOS
http://lasthurrahbookshop.net/mafia.html
www.copvcia.com
http://www.mikeruppert.blogspot.com/
www.narconews.com
www.911pressfortruth.com
www.911inquiry.org
http://www.ae911truth.org/
www.heatisonline.org
www.whistleblowers.org
www.zpub.com/notes/fbi-shame.html
http://www.google.com/search?q=fbi%20co ... en&tbm=vid

VIDEOS:

CONSPIRACY OF SILENCE: The Franklin Cover Up
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-franklin-cover-up/

Conspiracy of Silence: The Franklin Cover UpConspiracy of Silence, a documentary listed for viewing in TV Guide Magazine was to be aired on the Discovery Channel, on May 3 1994. This documentary exposed a network of religious leaders and Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies. Many children suffered the indignity of wearing nothing but their underwear and a number displayed on a piece of cardboard hanging from their necks when being auctioned off to foreigners in Las Vegas, Nevada, and Toronto, Canada.

MALTESE DOUBLE CROSS
Incontrovertible evidence showing FBI coverup of LOCKERBIE TWA Flight 800
explosion coverup.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B5hv6scbBo

WACO:RULES OF ENGAGEMENT
One of the best documentaries ever made, period.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmOBNnz9Wms

A NOBLE LIE 2012 Convicts the FBI of creating the
Oklahoma City bombing
http://anoblelie.com/

SILENCED Jack Cashill
Convicts the FBI of the coverup of TWA downing over Long Island by a missle
http://www.cashill.com/twa800/silenced_1of5.htm

THE GREAT DECEPTION Barry Zwicker
Convicts the US Government of creating 911
In 6 parts see all six
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q20jaExlHdw

TRUTH&LIES 911 Mike Ruppert
best evidence linking US Government to creating 911
http://www.youtuberepeater.com/watch?v= ... ull+length

AFTERMATH:UNANSWEREDQUESTIONS
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 2875138126

FBI LIED in their JFK Assassination Reports
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODXoISgU-0M


WHAT WE WANT WHAT WE BELIEVE a 4 DVD set about the Black Panthers
with an interview with FBI agent
Wesley Swearingen discussing the FBI Racial Squad and
their policy to assassinate black leaders
http://www.newsreel.us/DVD/information.htm

911 PRESS FOR TRUTH details the evidence for the FBI creating 911
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgUFkVG_78g

also see 2012 film INFORMANT
http://documentarychannel.com/35851700456/
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Re: How Bad Is Global Warming?

Postby Ben D » Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:14 pm

Fru, you are trolling.

Debate the science with me by all means, but an ad hominem doesn't count as science, nor does posting a whole bunch of information about the FBI mean anything in the context of the science of global warming.
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Re: How Bad Is Global Warming?

Postby wintler2 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:02 am

Odometer moment
For those who might be keeping score, we just passed the 333rd consecutive month of global temperatures above the 20th-century average. ..

November 2012 was the fifth-warmest November since records began in 1880, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said in its monthly climate report. The agency calculated that the 10 warmest Novembers on record have all occurred within the past 12 years.

The last time global temperatures came in below the 20th-century average for the month of November was in 1976, and the last time any month came in below the average was February 1985. ..
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Re: How Bad Is Global Warming?

Postby wintler2 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:04 pm

When the ice melts, the Earth spews fire: Researchers discover a link between climate and volcanic eruptions

It has long been known that volcanic activity can cause short-term variations in climate. Now, researchers at the GEOMAR Helmholtz Centre for Ocean Research Kiel (Germany), together with colleagues from Harvard University (Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA) have found evidence that the reverse process also occurs: Climate affects volcanic activity. Their study is now online in the international journal Geology.
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The basic evidence for the discovery came from the work of the Collaborative Research Centre "Fluids and Volatiles in Subduction Zones (SFB 574). For more than ten years the project has been extensively exploring volcanoes of Central America. "Among others pieces of evidence, we have observations of ash layers in the seabed and have reconstructed the history of volcanic eruptions for the past 460,000 years," says GEOMAR volcanologist Dr Steffen Kutterolf, who has been with SFB 574 since its founding. Particular patterns started to appear. "There were periods when we found significantly more large eruptions than in others" says Kutterolf, the lead author of the Geology article.

After comparing these patterns with the climate history, there was an amazing match. The periods of high volcanic activity followed fast, global temperature increases and associated rapid ice melting. To expand the scope of the discoveries, Dr Kutterolf and his colleagues studied other cores from the entire Pacific region. These cores had been collected as part of the International Integrated Ocean Drilling Program (IODP) and its predecessor programmes. They record more than a million years of the Earth's history. "In fact, we found the same pattern from these cores as in Central America" says geophysicist Dr Marion Jegen from GEOMAR, who also participated in the recent study. ..

Together with colleagues at Harvard University, the geologists and geophysicists searched for a possible explanation. They found it with the help of geological computer models. "In times of global warming, the glaciers are melting on the continents relatively quickly. At the same time the sea level rises. The weight on the continents decreases, while the weight on the oceanic tectonic plates increases. Thus, the stress changes within in the earth to open more routes for ascending magma" says Dr Jegen.

The rate of global cooling at the end of the warm phases is much slower, so there are less dramatic stress changes during these times. "If you follow the natural climate cycles, we are currently at the end of a really warm phase. Therefore, things are volcanically quieter now. The impact from man-made warming is still unclear based on our current understanding" says Dr Kutterolf. The next step is to investigate shorter-term historical variations to better understand implications for the present day. ..
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Re: How Bad Is Global Warming?

Postby Ben D » Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:27 am

So they believe the world is presently at end of a global warming period.
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