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Postby Sweejak » Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:46 am

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Thanks.

Postby slimmouse » Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:30 pm

<br><br> Sounded like a lot of the most logical stuff ive heard for a long long time.<br><br> I dont suppose this link would go down too well on DU ?<br><br> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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well...

Postby meppie or meppie not » Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:50 pm

I would post it but it would surely get deleted as fast as I could put it up. They view me in tinfoil terms I'm afraid<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: well...

Postby dbeach » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:26 pm

MP: have not listened to the interview..could ya say a few words as am busy on my home vaca<br><br>Slim: DU would probaly nuke anyone who presents anthing that is alternate to their views..I will still psot there<br><br>but AJ Rense..dave icke and many others are all but banned or shunned by the DU controllers..<br><br>Icke has his own version of spirituality and I like most of it.. <p></p><i></i>
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reptilians?

Postby Dreams End » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:32 pm

Isn't Icke the guy who says Bush and other elites are actually reptilian aliens? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: reptilians?

Postby dbeach » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:51 pm

yep shape shifters...its from some African legend ..I think .<br><br>but humans do have "reptilian brain' which has some functions..where did that name come from..??<br>This a bitty funny.<br>ever watch cartoons and see how many lizards are in them..???and how about the geeko insurance commercials with the cute smiley lizards...<br><br>maybe its more conditioning and psyce ops???<br><br>I like Ike . I mean Icke. <p></p><i></i>
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Thats the guy.

Postby slimmouse » Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:00 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Isn't Icke the guy who says Bush and other elites are actually reptilian aliens?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br> Indeed he is. I think its fair to say that whilst Icke might have a tendency to take that which he hears at face value perhaps a little too often ( he does after all base his evidence on the testimony of others - and lots and lots of it ), he nonetheless has many accomodating thoughts and conclusions for anyone who is trying to understand or make sense of what goes on in the world today.<br><br> Not only that, one certainly couldnt question the depth and scope of his research, which he uses to support his contentions, however we may think of them.<br><br> His overall angle/ conclusions on various areas might leave much to be desired in the eyes of many, But hey, who amongst us on this forum could claim to be different in that respect ?<br><br> One thing I did find particularly bizzarre ( or should that be revealing) about much of what Icke has written, is that he has been cast by many as some kind of neo nazi anti semite.<br><br>To be honest, Ive never heard as much complete and utter nonsense in my entire life. But then again, What is one to expect perhaps from people who have obviously never read a single word hes ever written, and who one might suggest appear eager to ensure that others dont !<br><br> As for the link. I like the interview personally, and can relate to much of it, and would certainly reccommend it. I have my beefs with it occasionally, but again dont we all with much of what we read ? The same can be said of much of his writing. Ive read three of his books now, and again, can certainly relate to much of what he says in them.<br><br> An essentially good man IMHO. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: reptilians?

Postby Sweejak » Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:12 pm

Call it cognitive dissonance but I put the reptilian thing in the Myth Folder, I can handle it better that way and it still says a lot about those in power, as well as some lounge lizards I have come across. <br>Icke has a forum.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.ickedownload.com/Forum/phpBB2/index.php">www.ickedownload.com/Foru.../index.php</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <br> <p></p><i></i>
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the interview....

Postby meppie or meppie not » Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:44 pm

D, he's talking about the fact that there were confirmed terror drills going on simultaneously in the 3 underground bombing locations.."simultaneous bombings".<br>Also, the Israelis gave the Brits 2 days warning of the bombings to take place. (that Netinyahu guy getting warned)<br>Lots of parallels between 911 and 7/7/05. Blair poll #'s low, Blair and liar: synonymous terms....<br>However, the method is becoming tiresome to us all and we aren't buying into the propaganda anymore...100th monkey syndrome is starting to kick in...seeking an alternative form of reality...6th sense....<br>talking about all the camera's in Europe and yet only one image available<br>Blair saying he will block official investigation..<br><br>The whole thing being a massive mind game...perception is reality...they created Al quada (sp?)<br><br>talked about H.G.Wells book "the New World Order" (available online)...the movie a straight Hollywood propaganda tool for recruiting for the military...contolling the masses through a microchip in the brain...that's all I got before I had to go, sorry. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: the interview....

Postby dbeach » Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:05 pm

MP thanx for your up the minute analysis whcih is spot on from I been reading<br><br>this is from the cloak..<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://sayanythingblog.com/2005/07/07/brit-hume-sees-terror-attack-as-time-to-profit/">sayanythingblog.com/2005/...to-profit/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>"These documents reveal that the CIA was used as a "cash cow" for George W. Bush, Senator John Kerry, and Bill and Hillary Clinton. Daddy Bush was a part of this CIA Black Ops Proprietary company that handled TRILLIONS of dollars for Queen Elizabeth II" <br><br>-- Sherman Skolnick, <br>World Famous Crime-Fighter & U.S. Corrupt Judge-Buster.<br><br>Quick Link to Next Page <br><br>Archive Members Enter Here<br><br>QUEEN / BUSH / BLAIR / HAIG BROS.<br>THREATENS ELECTRIC P0WER BLACKOUT <br>OF U.S. EAST COAST TO HALT <br>CRIMINAL INDICTMENTS AGAINST <br>GEORGE W. BUSH. <br> <br><br>wish cloak would gain in popularity...<br> <p></p><i></i>
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so many cloaks, so many daggers ;-)

Postby meppie or meppie not » Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:12 pm

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Icke's an antiSemite disinformationist - try this

Postby Seventhson » Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:45 pm

For what its worth - all good propaganda has a little lie mixed with the truth but these guys are recruiting for Bush and his militias according to this article.<br><br>Danger Will Robinson!!!<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:hDYf3_zAwTYJ:www.davidicke.com/icke/articles3/offley4.html+%22David+Icke%22++antisemitic&hl=en&ie=UTF-8">64.233.161.104/search?q=c...n&ie=UTF-8</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>(more at link)<br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.publiceye.org/Icke/IckeBackgrounder.htm">www.publiceye.org/Icke/Ic...ounder.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>David Icke And The Politics Of Madness<br><br>Where The New Age Meets The Third Reich<br><br>by Will Offley<br><br>February 29, 2000<br><br>On the face of it, few people would credit a retired soccer player who rants about a world takeover by blood-drinking lizards from outer space as being much of a threat to democracy. And as a general rule, they would probably be right. <br><br>David Icke, however, is an exception to that rule.<br><br>Icke, 48, is a native of Leicester, England. For five years he played professionally for the Coventry City and Hereford United soccer teams until forced to retire by arthritis. He subsequently went on to become a sports announcer for BBC-TV. For three years from 1988 to 1991 he was national spokesperson for the British Green Party, until he began a political evolution that was to begin with his expulsion from the Greens and wind up with his current involvement with anti-Semitism, neofascism, and lizards from Mars.1<br><br>At first this evolution seemed relatively harmless. Icke began to flirt seriously with New Age theories, and then began to act on them. He dressed in turquoise, and began to call himself the "son of godhead". But by the time his book "The Robot's Rebellion" was printed in 1994, his trajectory had begun to take quite a different course. In 1996, the British magazine "Left Green Perspectives" wrote that this book "indicated a convergence of New Age thinking with Nazi philosophy. Casting aside his pat concerns about the environment, Icke enthusiastically embraced the classic Nazi conspiracy theory, alleging that the world is controlled by a secret cadre of "The Elite." He openly endorsed The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, the Tsarist anti-Semitic forgery that informed Hitler's notion of a global Jewish conspiracy." <br><br>The following year Icke brought out another book, "...and the truth shall set you free." This one, however, was self-published, as its content was so objectionable that his publisher refused to have it printed. And small wonder. The book repeated Icke's previous claims that the Protocols were true, and went on to state: "I strongly believe that a small Jewish clique which has contempt for the mass of Jewish people worked with non-Jews to create the First World War, the Russian Revolution, and the Second World War....They then dominated the Versailles Peace Conference and created the circumstances which made the Second World War inevitable. They financed Hitler to power in 1933 and made the funds available for his rearmament." 2<br><br>In this book, Icke went even further. He began to flirt explicitly with Holocaust denial, saying "why do we play a part in suppressing alternative information to the official line of the Second World War? How is it right that while this fierce suppression goes on, free copies of the Spielberg film, Schindler's List, are given to schools to indoctrinate children with the unchallenged version of events. And why do we, who say we oppose tyranny and demand freedom of speech, allow people to go to prison and be vilified, and magazines to be closed down on the spot, for suggesting another version of history." 3 He also denounced the Nuremberg Trials as "a farce" and "a calculated exercise in revenge and manipulation" 4<br><br>Icke's politics today are a mishmash of most of the dominant themes of contemporary neofascism, mixed in with a smattering of topics culled from the U.S. militia movement. He has written diatribes on the Illuminati, the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission as examples of secret plots to take over the world. He opposes gun control as a plot by this Elite, which has deliberately orchestrated numerous mass shootings to whip up opposition to guns. 5 He has repeatedly posted anti-abortion literature and articles on his web site. 6 He rails against conspiracies to implant microchips in everyone's bodies, coded with the Satanic number "666". 7 He even accuses the U.S. government of carrying out the Oklahoma City bombing and murdering 168 men, women and children. 8<br><br>For a decade Icke has exhibited signs of serious mental instability. In his web site autobiography he reveals that as early as 1990 he became aware of "a presence around me, like there was always someone in the room when there was not. It got to the point where I sat on the side of the bed in a hotel room in London in early 1990 and said to whoever or whatever: "If you are there will you please contact me because you are driving me up the wall." A year later, on holiday in Peru, Icke describes hearing voices: "as I looked at the mound, a voice in my head began to say: "Come to me, come to me, come to me.... Suddenly I felt my feet pulled to the ground again like a magnet, the same as in the newspaper shop, but this time far more powerful. My arms then shot above my head, with no decision by me for them to do so.... A flow of powerful energy began to go into the top of my head like a drill, and I could feel the flow going the other way up from the ground through my feet. It was then I heard the third voice in my head, something that has never happened since. It said very clearly: "It will be over when you feel the rain"." 9 <br><br>Over the last year Icke's writings have become so paranoid and so extreme that many are probably inclined to dismiss him as posing any sort of threat, or requiring a response. Icke is now arguing in all seriousness that the Illuminati plot to take over the world is actually being carried out by a race of extraterrestrial reptiles in human form. They are described, literally, as being child-sacrificing, blood-drinking Satan-worshippers capable of changing their shape, whose ranks include George Bush, Bill and Hilary Clinton, Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mum, Bob Hope and Kris Kristofferson, among others. 10<br><br>David Icke is not alone. He is a small industry in a large and lucrative market of often well-to do New Age boomers. He has several web sites, an e-magazine, his own publishing house, and at least 9 books and 4 videotapes to his credit. He is constantly on the road, touring North America, Europe, Australia, South Africa, the Pyramids, and elsewhere. In the last five years he has spoken in Vancouver as many times, and across Canada he can turn out substantial audiences. His organizers claim he had 1,000 people out to hear him at his last gig in Vancouver, and he hopes to fill the Vogue Theatre on March 19. It's a large milieu that can afford the hefty prices Icke charges - up to $67 to attend a lecture, forty to fifty dollars for videotapes - and that generates a sizeable income for Icke and his message of conspiracism, fear and hate.<br><br>To organize all this, Icke has developed an international network of people who work with him and for him. They book the dates, churn out the posters and press releases, do the advance work, pick him up at the airport, get him to the hotel, introduce him, and get him back to his flight on time. They also show clearly why David Icke is a dangerous man, because they underscore his politics in an unmistakable way.<br><br>Icke is undeniably a flake, and a world-class flake, but his danger comes from his alliances as well as his politics. And it's the far right who handle this man, who package and promote and present his message across Canada and around the world.<br><br>Take Joseph Duggan. Duggan is the proprietor of Strong Eagles Productions, the company organizing Icke's current Vancouver speaking engagement. Duggan makes his living in part from organizing B.C. speaking engagements for a string of conspiracy theorists and famous personalities of the extreme right like Glen Kealey, Cathy O'Brien, Len Horowitz and others. 11 Duggan also used to be the health editor of Shared Vision until last year, which has itself advertised tours by Icke and hosted speeches by him as well. Interspersed with monthly columns on health foods and natural healing, Duggan's writings in Shared Vision also promoted the far right anti-government activist Murray Gauvreau 12, Colorado militia supporter Suzanne Harris 13, and the notorious Glen Kealey. 14<br><br>In March 1997, Duggan's column referred extensively to the book "War Cycles, Peace Cycles" by American writer Richard K. Hoskins. 15 Hoskins has been denounced as "a virulent anti-Semite who is a leading ideologue of the Christian Identity movement" by no less a source than Conrad Black's National Post. When Aryan Nations member Buford Furrow was arrested in Los Angeles last August after shooting and wounding five people at a Jewish community centre and murdering a Filipino postal worker, police found a copy of "War Cycles, Peace Cycles" in his car. 16<br><br>Icke's books and videos are also distributed by an organization in Salmon Arm, B.C. called The Preferred Network. The Preferred Network's web site advertises at least four of Icke's books and the same number of videotapes, as well as an extensive selection of U.S. and Canadian conspiracy materials covering the traditional themes particular to the far right: the government coverup of the Oklahoma City bombing, "The 10 Secrets Revenue Canada Doesn't Want You To Know", "Humanity's Extraterrestrial Origins", the AIDS coverup, the Ebola coverup, the Lockerbie coverup, the PanAm 800 coverup, "Satanism And The CIA", and Kari Simpson's expose of the gay agenda in B.C. schools. 17<br><br>David Lethbridge, director of the Salmon Arm Coalition Against Racism, has described the organizer of The Preferred Network in the following way: "a well-attended demonstration opposing the Multilateral Agreement on Investment was held [in the spring of 1998] in Salmon Arm, B.C.... Working the fringes was Wes Mann, organizer of the Preferred Network. Mann was handing out flyers for conspiracy advocates David Icke, Ted Gunderson and Cathy O'Brien. Whenever he could, Mann would strike up a conversation with one of the demonstrators, then write down their name and phone number. I knew who Mann was. His Preferred Network catalog carries several dozen books and tapes promoting the usual New Age fare: cancer cures, spiritualist prophecies, UFO tales and so on. But much of the catalog consists of materials promoting right-wing militias and right-wing conspiracy theories, and books by notorious fascists and antisemites such as Eustace Mullins. I went over to Mann, who did not recognize me, and began to question him. Within minutes he was telling me that the MAI was the work of a conspiracy organized by the mysterious "Black Nobility" and the "International Bankers". The anti-Jewish code words were obvious. Soon Mann was telling me that the antisemitic forgery The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion was authentic, that the Nazi Holocaust had never occurred, that the contemporary Jews were not Jews at all but descendants of the Turkish Khazars, and that the fascist Eustace Mullins was "a brilliant researcher"." <br> <br> <p></p><i></i>
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did you listen.

Postby slimmouse » Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:56 pm

<br> <br> have you heard the interview 7th ?<br><br> What did you think ? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: did you listen.

Postby Seventhsonjr » Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:21 pm

no. My computer is slow and I hate to link to such sites<br><br>But I am not taken in by his front so I really don't feel the need to try to critique his interview.<br><br>Any decent disinformationist, especially the machiavellian kind, is going to SOUND plausible or even good or right some or even most of the time.<br><br>It is a part of the modus operandi of blackoperators.<br><br>But his reptilian nonhuman stuff just makes his rants not worth my time.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: did you listen.

Postby Sweejak » Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:23 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> He has written diatribes on the Illuminati, the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission as examples of secret plots to take over the world. He opposes gun control as a plot by this Elite, which has deliberately orchestrated numerous mass shootings to whip up opposition to guns. 5 He has repeatedly posted anti-abortion literature and articles on his web site. 6 He rails against conspiracies to implant microchips in everyone's bodies, coded with the Satanic number "666". 7 He even accuses the U.S. government of carrying out the Oklahoma City bombing and murdering 168 men, women and children. 8<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Gee, sounds like my kind of guy.<br><br>BTW, I think the protocols are a real document. I won't hazard to guess who wrote them or if Jews were inserted for someone else. I hardly matters though, you can see the protocols in action everyday. <p></p><i></i>
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