Orgone and Wilhelm Reich

[heath7]

Been catching the mention of Orgone around here? <br><br>Well I have, and I finally did a little research into Dr. Wilhelm Reich. <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich" target="top">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>In 1947, following a series of articles about orgone in The New Republic and Harpers, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) began an investigation into Reich's claims about orgone therapy, and won an injunction against its promotion as a medical treatment. Charged with contempt of court for violating the injunction, Reich conducted his own defense, which involved sending the judge all his books to read. He was sentenced to two years' imprisonment.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>In August 1956, several tons of Reich's publications were burned by the FDA. Reich died of heart failure in jail just over a year later, one day before he was due to apply for parole.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->(emphasis mine)<br><br>These circumstances instantly make me suspect shenanigans. Anybody know more about Reich? Was his science viewed as dangerous back in the happy days? What the hell is up with holy hand grenades and tower busters. They seem so ridiculously simple and new-agey, yet I am intriqued whether they are what they are made out to be.<br> <p></p><i></i>

[glubglubglub]

He seems the most interesting of the suppressed researchers -- in many ways more interesting than tesla -- and correspondingly the most difficult to track down hard info on; from what little I've seen most of those who claim to have figured him out resemble either cargo cultists or fabulists, much in the same way that schauberger's few modern adherents appear to me.<br><br>I'd greatly appreciate any real leads on him -- even just places to check out or warnings about which roads not to follow down. <p></p><i></i>

[Rigorous Intuition]

I haven't made a serious study of Reich but from what I've read I suspect some of his insights to be of such value that they had to be supressed. Reich seems to cast a shadow over the weird, deep end of the cryptocracy. Then it becomes a matter of distinguishing signal from noise. (The Montauk legend, for instance, which I think is mostly noise, seems to borrow liberally from Reich.)<br><br>I'm pulling out a biography right now that I've had for years and never read, entitled <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Fury on Earth</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->. Maybe I'll learn something. <p></p><i></i>

[dbeach]

orgone resin type candles[not for burning] are to ward off alien attacks..they do work for me BUT are not a total problem solver..<br><br>sound wierd to even write this but science calls my condition dream paralysis..<br><br>whatever works for you..Do the cell phone towers cause harmful radiation exposure??<br><br>what are more mind control techniques that the elites are using..??<br><br><br>COWARDS <p></p><i></i>

[heath7]

<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich" target="top">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>In 1940, Reich wrote to Albert Einstein saying he had a scientific discovery he wanted to discuss, and on January 13, 1941, he went to visit Einstein in Princeton. They talked for five hours, and Einstein agreed to test an orgone accumulator, which Reich had made out of a Faraday cage made of galvanized steel and insulated by wood and paper on the outside. Einstein agreed with Reich that if, as Reich suggested, an object's temperature could be raised without an apparent heating source, it would be "a bomb" in physics.<br><br>Reich supplied the device during their second meeting, and Einstein performed the experiment in his basement, which involved taking the temperature atop, inside, and near the device. He also stripped the device down to its Faraday cage to compare temperatures. Over the course of a week, in both cases, Einstein observed a rise in temperature, and confirmed Reich's finding in a published letter. Since Einstein could offer no explanation for the finding, Reich concluded that the heat was the result of a novel form of energy—orgone energy—that had accumulated inside the Faraday cage. However, one of Einstein's colleagues at Princeton, the Polish physicist Leopold Infeld, interpreted the phenomenon as resulting from thermal convection currents, though he failed to provide an experimental demonstration of his contention. Einstein concurred that the experiment could be explained by convection.<br><br>Over the next three years of correspondence, Reich and Einstein disagreed on the interpretation of the experiment. The entire correspondence between Reich and Einstein was published by Reich's press as The Einstein Affair in 1953. In 2001, the neo-Reichians Paulo Correa and Alexandra Correa reproduced the experiment and introduced controls that they say rule out the possibility of convection as an explanation (see Aetherometry). A similar experiment was independently carried out by their supporter Eugene Mallove.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[glubglubglub]

Well, since you're reading I'll toss some ideas out and hope you'll pass along anything in there pro or con that comes up:<br><br>Since I've done some Schauberger work -- and I would bet money that the things he discovered have some relation or are another aspect of what Reich was onto -- I think Schauberger's key insight is basically that although mathematically 0 = (+E) + (-E) = 0, ( for any quantity E), in practice there's a huge difference between a system uniformly at 'zero' and a system that is at zero overall but can be somehow divided into components of positive and negative whatever (charge, pressure density, whatever) -- and especially if you can time delay the time you split zero into plus and minus some large quantity and the time that of reconciling those accounts ). A lot of his vortex work seems to be ways to tap into and exploit that situation -- coupling an implosive vortice to an explosive one means that very little energy is needed to maintain a very dynamic state...and the torsion around the point of coupling could conceivably bring strange effects with it.<br><br>I suspect Reich was onto something similar -- that life somehow depends on coupling a 'positive' flow (of something) with a 'negative' flow (of something) and does so in a difficulty-to-detect (but detectable, or at least he thought so) fashion, and once made aware of that some or all of the following become possible:<br>i) using life as an orgone transducer<br>ii) manipulating orgone to better or worsen quality of life<br>iii) otherwise putting orgone to work<br><br>From what little is easily available it seems Reich thought this orgone (which is the same as the flows of something mentioned above) was a sufficiently tangible thing to be subject to measurement by mechanical means...it also seems Reich thought that there was a very deep significance to his findings, which is certainly possible but difficult to ascertain without knowing what exactly he found.<br><br>Anyways, those are my guesses on Reich...so if anything pro or con turns up I'd appreciate a comment here or something.<br><br>---<br><br>Side note: the only other things I'm aware of the FDA cracking down that hard on are Laetrile ( 'vitamin b18', either cancer cure or deadly poison depending on who's telling it ) and DMSO ( general solvent ); I can't speak to laetrile but dmso does wonder for speeding up strains, sprains, and bruises. <p></p><i></i>

[glubglubglub]

If can build one of those I'll check it out myself..might take a while to get the supplies and a suitable machine shop but that's an eminently doable experiment. Wonder if that's the actual experiment and/or accumulator design, though, or if it's correct in sufficent detail. <p></p><i></i>

[marykmusic]

The accumulator itself is a very dangerous thing. Be careful with Reich's inventions... There must be a way to transmute or dissipate the negative orgone energy that accumulates. Reich did it by using running water to carry it off.<br><br>He was all kinds of brilliant, in many different fields (started as a protege of Sigmund Freud), and was killed off much too soon. Talk about suppression! --MaryK <p></p><i></i>

[heyjt]

Hey Glub...<br>Ouote:<br><br>"I suspect Reich was onto something similar -- that life somehow depends on coupling a 'positive' flow (of something) with a 'negative' flow (of something) and does so in a difficulty-to-detect (but detectable, or at least he thought so) fashion, and once made aware of that some or all of the following become possible:<br>i) using life as an orgone transducer<br>ii) manipulating orgone to better or worsen quality of life<br>iii) otherwise putting orgone to work"<br><br> -- What do you think about the parallel between what you describe and Taoist philosophy?<br> - Yin and Yang (positive/negitive)<br> - the "Hands of Light" thread<br> - Is manipulating orgone also manipulating Chi or KI? <p></p><i></i>

[wintler]

Can't vouch for his science either way, but his (small) book "Look, little man" is perhaps the most rousing text i've ever read in terms of provoking independent thought. <br><br>Its almost offensively framed, but thats obviously deliberate - he's trying to use ego/self-opinion to spark autonomous questioning, and its loaded with insights into psychoanalysis, conformity and human behaviour in general. For that book alone he gets respect from me. The old (Penguin?) paperback edition i read also had cartoon drawings by [cannae remember, not WR] that were painfully funny, startlingly true. Whatever you think of his science, read that book. <p></p><i></i>

[glubglubglub]

heyjt: quite possibly. Duality's a common enough concept I"'d be wary of prematurely equating instances where it seems to apply prematurely, but with a clearer definition of orgone such an identification would be worth investigating -- it's too clearly a potential lead to pass up.<br><br>I've never been entirely clear on the relations between chi on the one hand and the yin and yang on the other: does chi arise from the productive balance of yin and yang or does chi come in separate flavors, or is the proper understanding something else entirely. <p></p><i></i>

[Bismillah]

Anyone interested in sex, politics, education or life should read Reich. He was a genius, and Sharaf's biography is superb. The Mass Psychology of Fascism and The Function of the Orgasm are the two books of his I would probably recommend most. See also Peter Reich's intensely vivid and moving memoir of his father, A Book of Dreams, as well as A.S. Neill's correspondence with him.<br><br>Reich has probably been the subject of more lazy, though-free, counterfactual hatchet-jobs than anyone with the exception of Noam Chomsky. Wish I could write more now, but I really have to dash. <br><br>PS This should not (of course) be seen as a blanket endorsement of everything WR wrote - but he was no lunatic or sex-fiend, and the signal-to-noise ratio is far better than most snickering hacks would have you believe. <br> <p></p><i></i>

[heyjt]

Glub:<br>Just a thought when you mentioned positive flow/negative flow relating to orgone. <br> I don't know how to describe orgone, but your analysis sounds similar to the yin/yang theory of the Tao. <br> As many may know, the philosophy suggests first there was Wu ji, or nothingness. Out of Wuji came yin and Yang, the dialectic opposites. Yin being all that is soft,dark,feminine, yielding etc. Yang being light,hard, agressive etc.<br> Each has some of the other within and only exists in the presence of the other; ie:the spiraling yin/yang symbol.<br> Chi is a somewhat unexplainable universal energy that is manifested by the interplay of these opposits seeking balence. <br> Sorry for the sketchy explaination. What if Reich and his machines tapped into that same life-force, and in his western lexicon named it "orgone"? <p></p><i></i>

[prunesquallori]

Also in the Western Mystery Traditions, such as Alchemy, QBL, etc... there are the primary elements of Fire and Water, which represent the expansive and contractive tendencies of nature respectively. <p></p><i></i>

[revelation]

I've been interested in this for some time. James DeMeo's book "The Orgone Accumulator Handbook" is very good; it contains a great deal of theory and practical material, and a few howto's for building your own accumulators (with pictures!). Find it on eDonkey. Another avenue to explore is the "Joe Cell". It's basically a device which resembles a hydrolysis cell, which according to those who've worked with them for awhile is an orgone device which can power a combustion engine. Alex Schiffer is the best source of info on these. Get the free version of his book here:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://energy21.freeservers.com/as01.htm">energy21.freeservers.com/as01.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>I've found better schematics on IRC, but nothing that gets into the details like Schiffer's book. There's also a joe cell yahoo group, with some practical advice and pictures of working devices, but it's populated mostly with trolls and armchair physicists.<br><br>There's also a large chunk of the web devoted to "orgone generators", with names like "the Holy Handgrenade" and such; though the purpose of these seem to be closing interdimensional portals and foiling the __bad__ aliens. <p></p><i></i>