Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

[8bitagent]

Little details like "FBI informants" or "suspect had been monitored" that come out weeks later at the bottom of page A14 only matter to us "kooks".

Can we maybe wait a little while before throwing in the deep-pessimism towel?

Give this city a chance to mourn first, then a chance to gather itself, then a chance to start asking questions.

Please. Thanks.

At this point nothing would surprise me. I remember a nazi planted a shrapnel bomb along an MLK parade route in Washington a couple years ago, so some of these unstable
clowns need no help from over zealous FBI agents wanting to create a bust.

Btw is it true the whole city is under advised lockdown? It's strange as I never once heard Boston being under the threat of such an act; it was always LA, NYC, DC, Chicago etc we were told.
The angle mentioned a lot is the extensive nerve, tissue and limb damage it caused to a lot of people. One of my closest friends lost her leg due to a bacteria, and Im not sure a lot of people imagine
what life would be like without mobility or the use of extremities.

[divideandconquer]

I think seemslikeadream who linked the Homeland Security's "New $3.9 Billion Headquarters" hit the nail on the head, because when one asks, "Cui bono?" regarding this tragic event, the only answer that makes any sense is the military-security/surveillance-industrial complex. In fact, I can't see how anyone, or any organization/country benefits at all from something like this, with the exception of the complex.

"When you see so many cuts contemplated to Homeland Security and to local police coming from the federal government, this war against terrorism, this was against us, in many ways is more dangerous than prior to 911," -- Rep. Peter King, the chairman of the House Homeland Security Subcommittee on Counterterrorism and Intelligence, told CNN, hours after bombings at Monday's Boston Marathon killed three people and sent more than 130 people to hospitals.

The only reason it's more dangerous now than prior to 9/11 is because of people like him.

[FourthBase]

Little details like "FBI informants" or "suspect had been monitored" that come out weeks later at the bottom of page A14 only matter to us "kooks".

Can we maybe wait a little while before throwing in the deep-pessimism towel?

Give this city a chance to mourn first, then a chance to gather itself, then a chance to start asking questions.

Please. Thanks.

At this point nothing would surprise me. I remember a nazi planted a shrapnel bomb along an MLK parade route in Washington a couple years ago, so some of these unstable
clowns need no help from over zealous FBI agents wanting to create a bust.

Btw is it true the whole city is under advised lockdown? It's strange as I never once heard Boston being under the threat of such an act; it was always LA, NYC, DC, Chicago etc we were told.
The angle mentioned a lot is the extensive nerve, tissue and limb damage it caused to a lot of people. One of my closest friends lost her leg due to a bacteria, and Im not sure a lot of people imagine
what life would be like without mobility or the use of extremities.

Yeah, right now, people are being advised to stay out of the city, to stay home, call in tips, etc.
A massive swath of the Back Bay is cordoned off with police tape. Massive.

But, tomorrow: Back to work! (Tentatively.)

I had always assumed we were safe here because this city hosts the children of so many elites.
But that was only for a much, much bigger attack. And it was still naive of me. Wishful thinking.

Edit: Let a good outcome also be among those things you wouldn't be surprised by. For now.

[FourthBase]

Would a roll call of Boston-based RigInt-ers be appropriate?

I'm here, and unharmed. Obviously.
Looks like wordspeak2, too.
IanEye, you alright?

(Not even sure if either is still living in the Boston area. Anyone else?)

redsock?

There's an RI crew for NY and Philly. Who comprises the Boston crew?

[happenstance]

I work half a mile down the street of the site of the bombs. Wildly stressful and sad and scary day. Did the 6 mile walk home rather than use the subway today.

My work (at a city university) is already canceled tomorrow.

[labornvain]

This has a lot of markings of a rightwing attack. Tax day, patriot day, Boston Tea Party, foreigners and joggers. If this is a false flag event, which I certainly haven't ruled out, it is strange in that it appears to be setting up rightwing elements. Of course, it wouldn't be that strange. I'm still agnostic about Oklahoma, but that could be another case of rightwing patsies being used.

More than anything though, I just can't get over how fucking beneficial this is for Wall Street, MIC, Obama, and all the other interests that benefit from a big fear diversion.

[FourthBase]

Might as well be the first to post this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blown_Away_(1994_film)



That scene occurs only about a few hundred feet away from today's first blast.
Maybe less. Couple hundred or so. Maybe even less.

Am I saying there's anything more than coincidence? No.
It's a scenic intersection, is all. Happens to be where the marathon finishes.

Worth noting, though, that the first bomb exploded fairly close to a hydraulic scissor lift.
Imagine if that had been knocked over. [shivers]

[FourthBase]

I work half a mile down the street of the site of the bombs. Wildly stressful and sad and scary day. Did the 6 mile walk home rather than use the subway today.

My work (at a city university) is already canceled tomorrow.

I feel your pain. Glad you're alright. Would've done the same, walked home. Nearly did once, on 9/11.
Had I been working at the Pru today, I might have had a heart attack. Full-blown panic attack, anyway.
Shit, at the top floor, even a pigeon hitting a window might've been enough of a shock to my nerves.
"Here lies FourthBase, felled by a pigeon. Which he'd like to remind you is a dinosaur. RIP."

I have a feeling quite a few businesses will be closed tomorrow.
Especially in that vicinity.

[happenstance]

WATCH: Heckler Interrupts Boston Bombing Presser With Accusations Of 'False Flag Staged Attack'

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-heckle ... ed-attack/

[happenstance]

http://news.yahoo.com/false-flag-attack ... 10483.html

[8bitagent]

Is it wrong of me that I am now as annoyed by conspiracy theorists as I am the Sean Hannity "but it COULD be Muslims right" types?
Seriously, there's always been a stupid chucklehead component to CT, but after the viral "sandy hook was FAKED" youtube videos (as well as putting up with the bullhorn truther brigades) OH and the "every rap and pop song
is a message from the Illuminati!" crap...I'm just thoroughly disgusted by a lot of these types.

[FourthBase]

Is it wrong of me that I am now as annoyed by conspiracy theorists as I am the Sean Hannity "but it COULD be Muslims right" types?
Seriously, there's always been a stupid chucklehead component to CT, but after the viral "sandy hook was FAKED" youtube videos (as well as putting up with the bullhorn truther brigades) OH and the "every rap and pop song
is a message from the Illuminati!" crap...I'm just thoroughly disgusted by a lot of these types.

I suggest a brief moratorium on statements made with certainty that this was a false flag attack. Note: Not speculation about such. Just the certainty. It may indeed be a false flag attack. No one can possibly know that yet, though. Except for any perpetrators of any such attack, if it was such an attack.

Speaking of perpetrators...

Tonight, I am watching the local news, the Zapruder-ish loops of the footage, on mute. What I am listening to instead, on headphones, is the 1812 Overture. (Was reminded to listen to it by the recollection of Blown Away's finale.) Yes, 82_28, I can imagine without too much difficulty that our peculiar civic pride could be manipulated and warped into some jingoistic furor, with this exact music as the soundtrack to a spirited neo-fascism. I can already see the sloppy, heartfelt, manipulative YouTube montage. The cannon fire bringing to mind the cheers of Bostonians whose minds have been twisted, cheering on drone explosions and warship launches somewhere in the Arab world as some kind of righteous retaliation. Yes, I know. That is possible. Or instead of cannon fire, the gunshots as random innocent Muslims and Sikhs are executed out of a gravely-misplaced, xenophobic thirst for vengeance. But, that is not what I hear. Not me. And not necessarily what my Bostonian compatriots will wind up hearing, either. No, instead, what I hear as a substitute for the overture's cannon fire is a series of gavels being pounded and prison doors being slammed shut, as whichever perpetrators (or perpetrator, singular, which is still possible) are brought to justice. All of them. I still believe that this was the wrong city to fuck with, the last city anyone should ever want to fuck with. No matter who is responsible.

[82_28]

It could be dangerous, maybe. Again, let's wait a little while before reaching a verdict.

Dude, the opinions I had on "you people" existed for a long time before today (all because of sports teams). I just find it funny/telling that it's all "you fucked with the wrong city". No, nobody did. They fucked with human lives and destroyed perhaps (at least hundreds) -- you live in a qualified educated yet insane city that is now dealing with the past it seems to think still exists and is now scaling to the meta by probably false flag events. I'm not gonna make this AT ALL a Boston argument, because that is not my point. Say something like this happened in fucking Denver or Seattle or Vancouver or where the fuck ever. There wouldn't be no tweeting about "you fucked with the wrong city". It's the beginning of 2001 "writ small". I would put my money is that you are being preyed upon, because of such attitudes known to exist. In Seattle there would just be a bunch of people running around, but no, "you fucked with the wrong cities" as some meme. They could be preying on "massholes" as a conduit to something else nation/continent/world wide.

Sorry, you are interpreting the parochial nature of this city in the worst possible light.
There are more positive lights. You may want this to be "a Boston thing", dude.

Again. Please. Wait. Just. A. Little. While. For. The. Love. Of. Fucking. God. Please.

Thank you.

Bro, did you not see the "quotes"? I said the exact opposite of how you read it. You are the one who brought up the "meme" growing. I was simply saying that it would not have such traction most places. We've got a "poor Detroit", a "frazzled Cleveland", a "cowtown Denver" and on and on. But you're the only city I can think of in the USA that can proudly say "you fucked with the wrong city". Why the fuck is this? Quit being all defensive, mang and look at the bigger picture insofar as time before and time after and the times to come with this particular incident. Read again, what I said. I've re-read it about 20 times now and I am trying to figure out where I fucked up and you got it all wrong.

Edit and to add:

Perhaps what i was going after was the fact that you "reap what you sow", but you were not sowing this as a community. However it was ripe for the location to set up the next attack upon the Bill of Rights and the overall acceptance of "this is just the way it is". I meant in the sense of that coupled with the "Masshole" thing, the fact there is "Masshole Nation" and that there is a pride involved that precedes simple sports teams and it is easily milked as it were. I am saying there is a disconnect between what we are currently trying to connect about why this happened at all and what it's purposes into the future lead to, inevitably leading us to "the next step".

And also, bro, I also know people dead and affected in both Denver shootings that have shaken me to my knees through my life and you didn't tell me to stop speculating during the Aurora shooting thread with. condescending. like. we. some. of. us. haven't. been. there. too.

[FourthBase]

It could be dangerous, maybe. Again, let's wait a little while before reaching a verdict.

Dude, the opinions I had on "you people" existed for a long time before today (all because of sports teams). I just find it funny/telling that it's all "you fucked with the wrong city". No, nobody did. They fucked with human lives and destroyed perhaps (at least hundreds) -- you live in a qualified educated yet insane city that is now dealing with the past it seems to think still exists and is now scaling to the meta by probably false flag events. I'm not gonna make this AT ALL a Boston argument, because that is not my point. Say something like this happened in fucking Denver or Seattle or Vancouver or where the fuck ever. There wouldn't be no tweeting about "you fucked with the wrong city". It's the beginning of 2001 "writ small". I would put my money is that you are being preyed upon, because of such attitudes known to exist. In Seattle there would just be a bunch of people running around, but no, "you fucked with the wrong cities" as some meme. They could be preying on "massholes" as a conduit to something else nation/continent/world wide.

Sorry, you are interpreting the parochial nature of this city in the worst possible light.
There are more positive lights. You may want this to be "a Boston thing", dude.

Again. Please. Wait. Just. A. Little. While. For. The. Love. Of. Fucking. God. Please.

Thank you.

Bro, did you not see the "quotes"? I said the exact opposite of how you read it. You are the one who brought up the "meme" growing. I was simply saying that it would not have such traction most places. We've got a "poor Detroit", a "frazzled Cleveland", a "cowtown Denver" and on and on. But you're the only city I can think of in the USA that can proudly say "you fucked with the wrong city". Why the fuck is this? Quit being all defensive, mang and look at the bigger picture insofar as time before and time after and the times to come with this particular incident. Read again, what I said. I've re-read it about 20 times now and I am trying to figure out where I fucked up and you got it all wrong.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh...shit, my bad. Character armour. (Edit: Meh, just defensiveness.) Mine. My fault.
I thought you were identifying us as easy prey to whip into a pro-war frenzy.
I completely mistook your tone and your points.

Yes, we here are insane enough to think the past is still alive, lol.
And for the most part, with some shameful exceptions, it's a past devoted to truth, justice, and liberty.

[FourthBase]

I'm eager to know exactly what archives were destroyed at the JFK Library fire. Being reported now as "just" some kind of incendiary device unrelated to the marathon bombs. Oh? Because, that only makes it weirder. No one could be so stupid as to see the marathon attack as an opportunity to capitalize on by torching crucial documents related to, say, the assassination...right?

By the way, this is the Fens fire referred to earlier. Note the comment. Ahem.

http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/loca ... nway-area/