Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

[FourthBase]

Gotta say, now Tamerlan-body-Gate has my curiosity piqued.
Thanks for the persistence, as always, Mac.

[Burnt Hill]

No big deal just remembered him as CIA 136 pages in! Next I'll think of him as a brush salesman.

[FourthBase]

By the way, this has been happening, lol:

http://www.patriotledger.com/news/x1402 ... -residents

QUINCY —

The Federal Aviation Administration knows what’s up there but it’s not telling the public.

A slew of Quincy residents have been complaining and calling police and the city about an aircraft that appeared about two weeks ago and has been taking wide, repeated loops in the air, between about 7 p.m. and 4 a.m.

Residents from Wollaston to West Quincy describe a low-pitch humming sound coming from the aircraft. Some have said it’s reminiscent of a drone, which is an unmanned aircraft operated by remote control.

“It’s not a drone,” FAA spokesman Jim Peters said. “It’s an authorized flight and we are aware of it.”
Peters declined to make any further comment.

The FAA first allowed the use of unmanned aircraft in U.S. airspace in 1990. It continues to allow limited use for firefighting, rescue, law enforcement and military testing, the FAA’s website says. Interest in the use of drones is growing.

Quincy Police Capt. John Dougan said police are aware of the aircraft and “it’s nothing to be concerned about.”
Ward 4 City Councilor Brian Palmucci thinks residents are entitled to know more about the aircraft’s purpose, particularly following the intense police operations following the Boston marathon bombings.

“People are on edge,” he said. “Law enforcement is always very vocal about how one of the best resources they have in combating crime is the vigilance of the public. And that’s clearly what’s happening here, the public being vigilant ... Getting no information as to what the purpose of these flights are only raises the concern in an already hyper-vigilant situation.”

Palmucci said he contacted the FAA, officials, and police seeking answers to his constituents’ questions, but did not get answers.

Centre Street resident Greg Zacchine wrote Palmucci to ask about the aircraft.

“It is flying at night and day constantly,” he wrote. “I am curious about its purpose and who is spending so much time and resources flying around in endless circles. This plane makes a low pitch humming sound that’s somewhat of a distraction while outdoors.”

Wollaston residents Paul O’Malley and John Barnett also complained of the buzz coming from the aircraft.
“It makes it hard to get back to sleep,” O’Malley said.

Patriot Ledger reporter Lane Lambert contributed to this report. Jack Encarnacao may be reached at jencarnacao@ledger.com or follow on Twitter @JackE_Ledger

All that's missing is "nothing to see here, move along"*, but they come close!
WTF, though, lol. Anyone know?

*NTSHMA, lol, it needs an acronym

[Burnt Hill]

Boston Herald wrote:When asked about reports that Tsarnaev was run over by a vehicle driven by his fleeing brother, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, Wolfe said he did not see any obvious injuries that would back up that theory.

“I certainly did not see any tire marks or the usual things we see with someone run over by a car,” he said.

We did see an autopsy photo of someone with a large area of ecchymosis that could have easily been caused by a car running over it, maybe no obvious tire tracks, but doesnt rule it out. Not even neccessary for there to be contact with tires.
FWIW

[MacCruiskeen]

1. Are you a medic? 2. Did you see only that photo?

[hiddenite]

"brush salesman"


Re the body, what happened to the suicide vest imploding explanation for the huge ugly rent in his side ? What explanation for the corpse images in the media at all ? How come not a single student or teacher or anyone contacted any agency to say they recognized the brothers , from the released vids ?

late but there

[MacCruiskeen]

WHY "DOA"???

[hiddenite]

WHY "DOA"???

indeed

[stillrobertpaulsen]

Again, a request, for all amateur websleuths:
Check every single reminiscer of suspects.
Do not be prematurely certain.
Do not jump to conclusions.
But, yeah: WITCHHUNT.
Because: There be witches.

WHO IS LEADING THE FBI INVESTIGATION? Names?

I searched, not 100% certain, but Richard DesLauriers seems a likely candidate to lead the FBI investigation:

FBI Says Data About Probe Of Bombing Suspect Was Shared

May 10, 2013 7:15 AM


Boston Police Chief Edward Davis that before the Boston Marathon bombings, his department wasn't aware the FBI had questioned Tamerlan Tsarnaev in recent years about whether he had been in contact with Muslim extremists in Dagestan.

As far as he knew, Davis said, the FBI did not share that information with local authorities.

The chief conceded that even if his department had known, that might not have prevented the — which the now-deceased Tsarnaev and his younger brother, Dzohkhar, are accused of carrying out.

Later on Thursday, the FBI's Boston Division released a statement from Special Agent in Charge Richard DesLauriers in which he says the bureau's "assessment of Tamerlan Tsarnaev" was entered into a database which representatives of the Boston Police can access.

Here's the full statement:

"Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTFs) members, including the state and local members, are responsible for maintaining awareness of possible threats to their respective jurisdictions. To manage and provide accessibility to the significant number of assessments conducted by the JTTF, each task force member has access to Guardian, a web-based counterterrorism incident management application that was launched in July 2004.

"In Guardian, threat and suspicious activity incidents are entered, assigned and managed in a paperless environment and allows terrorist threats and suspicious activities to be viewed instantaneously by all system users. The primary purpose of Guardian is to make immediately available threat and suspicious activity information to all system users and to provide all users with the capability to search all incidents for threat trend analysis.

"Further, all JTTF members are able to perform customized key word searches of Guardian to identify relevant Assessment activity. Boston JTTF members, including representatives from the Boston Police Department (BPD), were provided instruction on using Guardian, including suggestions on methods for proactively reviewing and establishing customized searches, which would allow them to be fully informed of all JTTF activity that may affect Boston and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Guardian allows for the necessary accessibility and awareness that otherwise would be unfeasible given the number of Assessments that are conducted by the JTTF on a regular basis.

"Many state and local departments, including the BPD, have representatives who are full-time members of the JTTF, and specifically had representatives assigned to the JTTF squad that conducted the 2011 Assessment of deceased terrorism suspect, Tamerlan Tsarnaev. As set forth by law and policy, assessments may be carried out to detect, obtain information about, or prevent or protect against federal crimes or threats to the national security or to collect foreign intelligence when the information provided to the FBI does not rise to a level that would allow for the opening of a predicated investigation. By their very nature, and in accordance with U.S. Constitutional restrictions, JTTF members are limited in the types of investigative methods that can be utilized in an Assessment.

"In 2011 alone, the Boston JTTF conducted approximately 1,000 assessments, including the assessment of Tamerlan Tsarnaev, which was documented in the Guardian database. The Tsarnaev assessment was thorough, comprehensive and fully compliant with law and policy.

"While sponsored by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Joint Terrorism Task Forces (JTTFs) are composed of federal, state, local and tribal personnel and are based in more than 100 cities nationwide, including Boston. The JTTF is a collaborative environment that allows for the completely unrestricted flow of investigative information among task force members.

"Importantly, the purpose of sharing information freely is to create a force multiplier by enabling state, local and federal officials to participate in the intelligence cycle by gaining awareness of activity that may affect their respective jurisdictions and then providing any information from their own records that might assist in the further analysis and investigation of potential terrorists. Further, Fusion Centers, entities separate and apart from JTTFs, are designed to provide terrorism-related information to the JTTFs for possible investigative purposes. State and local law enforcement personnel, analysts and FBI personnel at Fusion Centers who have the appropriate security clearances are afforded the same unrestricted access as their FBI colleagues."

As NPR's Brian Naylor , members of Congress want to know much more about the information that was collected about Tamerlan Tsarnaev, how it was or was not shared, and whether any of the clues might have prevented the bombings. The explosions killed three people and injured more than 250.

Also Friday morning, that the elder Tsarnaev brother expressed an "avid interest in waging jihad" during a 2012 trip to Russia, according to two of his acquaintances.

[Burnt Hill]

1. Are you a medic? 2. Did you see only that photo?

I am an RN that has worked in the ER thank you for asking. Have also assisted with autopsies.
Though none of that is neccessary for that comment. I have also run over various woodland animals and looked at them.

[justdrew]

the dead can often be revived MacCruiskeen, if they got him to the hospital quickly enough. I'd expect they often attempt resuscitation on recent DOAs.

[DrEvil]

WHY "DOA"???

Could be he died en route and the doctors at the hospital failed to revive him, hence the DOA.

No idea if that's true of course, but it is a possibility.

Edit: dammit! jd beat me by one lousy minute

[MacCruiskeen]

the dead can often be revived MacCruiskeen, if they got him to the hospital quickly enough.

Oh FFS, drew. Are there no lengths...

Moving on:

37c: Appx Time of Death: UNKNOWN

http://documents.latimes.com/tamerlan-t ... rtificate/

WTF??? He can't even say approximately?

[hiddenite]

1. Are you a medic? 2. Did you see only that photo?

I am an RN that has worked in the ER thank you for asking. Have also assisted with autopsies.
Though none of that is neccessary for that comment. I have also run over various woodland animals and looked at them.

What did you make of the giant wound on the side of the corpse pic , the one they first said was caused by the exploding suicide vest ?

Also I read somewhere he was shot from head to toe and the body showed old signs of bullet wounds and burns ...anyone else recall that ?

[Burnt Hill]

"brush salesman"


Re the body, what happened to the suicide vest imploding explanation for the huge ugly rent in his side ? What explanation for the corpse images in the media at all ? How come not a single student or teacher or anyone contacted any agency to say they recognized the brothers , from the released vids ?

late but there

I believe the large wound was explained as a medical procedure where they opened him up to drain blood from pleural cavity, dont quote me on that one . They could have been working on him from the ambulance through his hospital stay, if he never maintained respirations or a heartbeat on his own then he would still be considered DOA. Appeal to the Gods for forgivance if I have missed a previously stated "fact". . Also its Approximate since we are getting so picky