Agent 488; Carl Jung and the CIA (OSS)

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Agent 488; Carl Jung and the CIA (OSS)

Postby brekin » Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:48 pm

Carl Jung, agent for the OSS and his handler, Allen Dulles.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... reud-nazis

Jung was furious, not least because he was actually fighting to keep German psychotherapy open to Jewish individuals. And that was not all. Bair reveals that Jung was involved in two plots to oust Hitler, essentially by having a leading physician declare the Führer mad. Both came to nothing.
It has also come to light that Jung operated as a spy for the OSS (the predecessor to the CIA). He was called "Agent 488" and his handler, Allen W. Dulles, later remarked: "Nobody will probably ever know how much Prof Jung contributed to the allied cause during the war."


http://www.tygersofwrath.com/00jung2001review.htm

According to Bair, when Allen Dulles entered Switzerland in November 1942 he was secretly working as an “advance man” for the U.S. Office of Strategic Services (OSS) in Switzerland. (Dulles would later head the CIA.) “For some time, Jung became Dulles’s ‘sort of senior advisor on a weekly, if not almost daily, basis.’” The following year, “Jung became ‘Agent 488’ in Dulles’s reports to OSS offices in Washington and London, and 488’s dispatches were considered fact and figured prominently in the agency’s operational policies.” Dulles said Jung “[understood] the characteristics of the sinister leaders of Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy. His judgment on these leaders and on their likely reactions to passing events was of real help to me in gauging the political situation. His deep antipathy to what Nazism and Fascism stood for was clearly evidenced in these conversations.” In fact, Jung constructed the first in-depth psychological profiles of political enemies such as Hitler. “By 1945 […] Jung’s views on how best to get [German] civilians to accept defeat were being read by the Supreme Allied Commander, General Dwight D. Eisenhower. Jung’s analysis of Nazi propaganda was that it tried ‘to hollow out a moral hole with the hope of eventual collapse.’” Ibid., pp. 492-494.


This account is from a translated source so the grammar is tough in patches:
http://aconstantineblacklist.blogspot.c ... ulles.html
Sunday, October 14, 2007
C.G. Jung and Allen Dulles
A fair translation of:
http://www.webdo.ch/hebdo/hebdo_2000/he ... que_1.html
•••••••••••
The "Profiler" of Hitler

The Swiss psychoanalyst of the collective unconscious collaborated with the American secret service between 1942 and 1945, protected by future CIA Director Allen Dulles.

His analyses of Hitler and Mussolini for propaganda purposes interested General Eisenhower.

Jocelyn Rochat

For code 105, Burns [an alias for A. Dulles]. I contacted the famous psychoanalyst, professor C. G Jung. His analyses of the reactions of German leaders, especially of Hitler because of his psychopathic tendencies, should not be underestimated. Jung is persuaded that Hitler will resort until the end with all despaired measurements, but he does "not exclude the possibility of a suicide in one moment from crisis." Words simple, direct, classified as "secret" and dispatched of Bern in the afternoon of February 3, 1943 to announce a small revolution. Artisanal beginnings of "psychological shaping", still experimental marriage of espionage and psychoanalysis applied to the highest level. Because the enigmatic "Burns", the mailer of this telegram (see our exclusive reproduction on page 47) is no other than Allen Dulles, a Master of American espionage entered Switzerland early and was installed in the heart of Bern. As for "105," the coded recipient of the message, it appears to be colonel David Bruce, one of the heads of the OSS, the Office of Strategic Services, ancestor of the current CIA.

How one of the most significant spies of the century (Allen Dulles will be propelled to the head of the CIA in the post-war period) and Carl Gustav Jung, the inventor and explorer of the concept of the collective unconscious, compare their reflexions during WW II and enter the psyché of Hitler? It is the history which tell of the recently declassified American documents and of the new Swiss sources found by "Hebdo". As many files show this collaboration, as all that touches with the psychoanalysis, thrived in quite disconcerting circumstances.

The mistress

It all begins with the arrival in Bern of Allen Dulles at the end of 1942, a few hours before the complete closing of the borders. Dulles's mission, as explained in "Underground Germany", consisted in "making to a report/ratio on the secret movement of anti-Nazies in Germany". What pushed him to contact Dr. Jung was appreciation of his knowledge of the Germanic heart, shared during a discussion in Harvard in 1936.

Dulles is not satisfied to see Jung collect useful information (as the telegram of February 3, 1943 shows): He also recruits one of Jung's patients. Was the patient recommended by the psychoanalyst? We are unaware of this. But we know that the American spy "tended to accept the judgement of Dr. Jung of the man" (even an unknown, note) "as long as one had not brought the undeniable proof of the opposite to him" (new letter of March 14, 1950, reproduced below).

The Master spy, who lacks personnel in Switzerland, thus trusts a named beginner, Mary Bancroft, journalist, American and wife of a Swiss citizen, she thentook treatment from professor Jung to rid herself of repetitious sneezes. This 38 years romantic woman is favorably impressed by Dulles, "this 49 year-old pipe smoker with the pink face, a gray tweed and equipped with a pair of piercing blue eyes, with the air of open and merry manners." She falls under the charm of Dulles and accepts the offer of employment. Here it is the apprentice spy, and soon mistress of her owner.

On the couch

Carl G Jung profits in turn from the confidences of Mary Bancroft and the regular visits of Dulles, as this last in a letter gone back to February 1950 explains it (Allen Dulles Papers, Université of Princeton, Box 39, folder 3): "During my stay in Switzerland, I from time to time had long conversations with Dr. Jung concerning the political news and the characteristics of the disasters leaders of the Nazi Germany and fascistic Italy."

As many meetings which make it possible to the psychoanalyst to observe the operation of the duet of American spies. Amused, it launches in Mary Bancroft while drawing on its pipe: "Your friend Dulles is hard to cook, I am content that you are his confidante." Which hastens to encourage Jung to specify its thought: "Of the men like Allen, very ambitious and in stations of being able, need to intend female opinions to give best their judgements and not to exceed the limits."

The beginner has well sorrow to hold her language. She precipitates at Jung as soon as Dulles entrusts a mission to him which requires greatest discretion, as she explains it in "Autobiography of has spy" (this autobiographical work published in New York in 1983 is unperceived past and is quasi untraceable in Switzerland, note).

Jung learns thus that Allen Dulles required of Mary Bancroft to write a book on the plot missed against Hitler, by tapping a maximum of information to the passage to surviving plotters, Hans Bernd Gisevius, a spy of Abwehr based in Switzerland.

Very quickly informed of the bonds which link Dulles and Bancroft with Jung, Gisevius also requires him to meet the psychoanalyst. It had indeed been impressed by the article of 1936 devoted to "Wotan", the German god of the war whose Jung announced the alarm clock devastator.

The interview offers a new role to Jung, quickly promoted consulting in interrogations. Having discussed with Gisevius, Jung advises Mary Bancroft on the tone right to adopt with its German interlocutor "to make him spit the piece": "never ask him a fact! It is of the same psychological type as you: this kind of question would put it out of him and it would be the end of the discussion free, associative, which makes it possible to learn from the things."

Put at the current of the meetings of the Jung-Bancroft-Gisevius trio, and thus of the indiscretions of sound apprentie, Allen Dulles cille not. But it ends up exploding when Mary evokes its extraordinary capacity to send mental messages to Gisevius, gift which intrigued Jung at the point to require long explanations of him on this subject.

It is that, well before the invention of the gadgets worthy of 007, Mary Bancroft and Gisevius had developed a means of communicating that would not have disavowed Q, the equipment supplier of Jump. Mary Bancroft claims indeed that it was enough for him to think of Gisevius during ten minutes so that this last understands that it was to call it. An anecdote which is not taste of Dulles which launches to its mistress: "I would like that you ceases these enfantillages! I do not make a point of entering the history because I am quoted in a note with the bottom of a page detailing the cases studied by Jung!"

Injustice

The American spy feared that the posterity does not forget its work of the shade not to retain that will have it dazzling of Jung. It is however the reverse which occurred. The specialists in the psychoanalysis spent these five last decades chamailler to know if one were or not to present Jung like a sympathizer Nazi, suspicion that Dulles qualified into 1950 of "gossip" (rumour) and that Jung charges to "its enemies the American freudiens which hate it" (new letter of September 24, 1945 deposited at the polytechnic School of Zurich).
During this time, the specialists in espionage detailed the exploits of Dulles without discovering the discrete traces of its profitable collaboration with Jung. A lapse of memory which should be soon repaired, as the last sums devoted to Dulles show it which start to briefly announce the presence of Jung among its consultants (to read in particular "Allen Dulles" by James Srodes, 1999, "Gentleman spy" by Peter Grose, 1996 and "From Hitler's doorstep" of Neal Petersen ", 1998). An injustice that the close relations could have repaired more quickly, if they had dared to evoke their memories publicly: "the members of the family knew that Jung had known Dulles, Ulrich Hörni confirms, who takes care on the files of the psychoanalyst in Switzerland, but they never spoke about it openly. You include/understand, this kind of subject was rather secret." So secret that Jung failed well to carry it in its tomb.
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Re: Agent 488; Carl Jung and the CIA (OSS)

Postby elfismiles » Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:27 pm

holy shit man ... ever since reading Albarelli's A TERRIBLE MISTAKE I've been wondering about Dulles and Jung's relationship.
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Re: Agent 488; Carl Jung and the CIA (OSS)

Postby brekin » Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:59 pm

It should also be noted (I thought I already posted about this but couldn't find it) that Freud did a psychological profile/biography of President Wilson (a hit piece it seems more like it) with a shady U.S. ambassador, William C. Bullitt.


Woodrow Wilson: A Psychological Study
Sigmund Freud (Author), William Bullitt (Author)


This volume originated when William C. Bullitt began working on a book of studies of the principle personalities surrounding the Treaty of Versailles. In discussing this project with Sigmund Freud, the idea arose of a collaborative work on Woodrow Wilson. They worked on the book for ten years, reading all of Wilson’s published books and speeches as well as volumes written about Wilson. After perusing this material, Bullitt and Freud realized that they could not write an analysis of Wilson’s character unless they deepened their understanding of his nature with private, unpublished information from his intimates. They then set out to collect diaries, letters, records, and memoranda from various associates of Wilson.

Freud writes in his introduction that he did not begin this study with an objective view of Wilson, but rather held an unsympathetic view of him. But he goes on to say that while reading through materials about Wilson, his strong emotions underwent a thorough subjugation. He describes Wilson as a person for whom mere facts held no significance; he esteemed highly nothing but human motives and opinions. As a result, writes Freud, it was natural for him in his thinking to ignore the facts of the real outer world, even to deny they existed if they conflicted with his hopes and wishes. This habit of thought is visible in his contacts with others. Freud also notes that there was an intimate connection between Wilson’s alienation from the world of reality and his religious convictions.

The book opens with a thirty-page biography of Wilson written by Bullitt. The collaborative psychological study that makes up the bulk of the volume then follows. Woodrow Wilson provides readers with a more intimate knowledge of the man, which in turn leads to a more exact estimate of his achievements. This intriguing psychoanalytic study will be of continuing interest to historians, political scientists, psychologists, and sociologists.

http://www.amazon.com/Woodrow-Wilson-Ps ... 0765804263
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Re: Agent 488; Carl Jung and the CIA (OSS)

Postby Derek » Mon Jul 01, 2013 6:15 pm

I did quite a bit of research on this very topic for my soon-to-be-published novel, Crash Gordon and the Revelations from Big Sur. Among other things, I spent a day at Princeton going through the Allen W. Dulles Papers archived in the Seeley G. Mudd Manuscript Library. There wasn't much there that added in any significant way to Deirdre Bair's very thorough (and well worth reading) biography of Jung, but I did find a spritely little Thank You note from Jung to Dulles expressing his appreciation of Dulles' efforts to quash the spurious Jung-was-a-Nazi meme that got started around 1950.

Dulles wrote to his buddy Jung on March 14th, 1950:

Dear Dr. Jung:

… I look back on our days together in Switzerland during the war. I know how ridiculous are the charges which some people have made about you and I took great pleasure in writing a letter to Paul Mellon on the subject a few days ago.

Faithfully yours, A.W. Dulles


Jung wrote back to his pal Dulles on March 21st of that same year:

Dear Mr. Dulles,

Thank you very much for your kind letter and your most valuable help!

I’m glad that you also have taken action in the case of that ridiculous accusation that I’m a Nazi. Well, you know what it is to be in the lime-light!

Yours gratefully,
C.G. Jung.

So there you have it... a classic bromance between one of the giants of modern psychology and a legendary Director of Central Intelligence. The potential existed, between them, for mind-fuckery on a truly colossal scale.

For those who are interested, I'll attach the relevant passage from my manuscript below. It's a bit long—and some things might not seem to make sense, since it's been taken out of context—but it should be a bit easier to read than the translated document above, with its phrases like "shade not to retain that will have it dazzling of Jung"—whatever that was supposed to mean.

Here it is:

“Not many people are aware of the fact that Dulles was a close friend of Carl Gustav Jung,” Lloyd expounds, “but knowledge of that relationship is absolutely crucial to an understanding of certain postwar developments in the U.S. intelligence community and our present-day National Security State.”

“Allen Dulles was into Jungian psychology?” I ask, dumbfounded.

“He certainly was… although he never sought treatment for his own quite obvious Rasputin complex.” Lloyd purses his lips into a sour little moue. “A pity, because our world might be a far better place now if the treatment had succeeded. It was actually the woman Dulles was having an affair with in Switzerland during World War II, Mary Bancroft, who was in analysis with Jung. She was the one who got Dulles and Jung talking to each other.”

“Was she just a total nutjob, or what?” asks James.

“Mary Bancroft was perhaps a bit of a narcissist, but otherwise supremely sane. She began seeing Jung in the mid-1930s because she’d been plagued by fits of persistent sneezing, which she’d properly intuited as having a psychological basis. During the course of four years of analysis, Jung helped her to completely overcome the sneezing fits, but by then she’d become interested in the deeper rewards of analysis—the journey toward successful individuation—and so she stuck with it. And thus, like the fabled Butterfly Effect that chaos theorists like to bandy about, Mary Bancroft’s sneezes had far-reaching consequences that ultimately resulted in the appearance of the huge black triangle UFOs over New York’s Hudson Valley that I’ve been looking into for the past several months.”

“Whoa! You’re gonna have to explain that one…” I say to Lloyd.

“Black triangles are flying around New York?” James asks him.

“They’ve been seen by literally thousands of people at this point. It’s as if they want to be seen. One even violated the airspace above the Indian Point Nuclear Facility and hovered over a reactor. However, your friend Skeeze is the first person to have seen one on the West Coast that I’m aware of, which is why I booked a flight right out here once I saw your article.”

“But that happened almost five years ago,” I point out.

“Yes, but Skeeze is one of the very few witnesses who claims to be able to recall what happened to him once he was taken inside the UFO. For that reason alone, I’d very much like to have a word with him.”

“Yeah, well, good luck with that,” says James. “Right now he’s sailing a yacht down to Mexico with Francesca and Crash’s stoner witch girlfriend.”

“Is that true?” Lloyd asks me, looking disappointed.

“It’s a long story…” I sigh. James and I proceed to tell it to him. When we’re done, Lloyd reciprocates by telling us a long story about Allen Dulles—specifically, how he twisted his friend Carl Jung’s theories about UFOs and the collective unconscious to serve the CIA’s perverse agenda:

Allen Welsh Dulles and his elder brother, John Foster Dulles, honed their skills in duplicity as senior partners at the prestigious Manhattan law firm, Sullivan & Cromwell—the lawyers of choice for a long list of Wall Street robber barons and amoral corporations. Both brothers were founding members of the Council on Foreign Relations. John Foster Dulles, the German Kaiser’s personal attorney, was especially adept at helping families like the Rockefellers, DuPonts, Harrimans, Walkers, and Bushs to load up on lucrative German investments between the two World Wars—first, by passing bribes at the Versailles Peace Conference to assure that the treaty would benefit Sullivan & Cromwell’s elite clients; and later, by shielding those same clients from investigation for laundering Nazi funds and otherwise profiting from Hitler’s crimes against humanity.

(Sullivan & Cromwell represented many of the leading banks of Berlin and Bavaria after they came out on the wrong side of World War I. They also handled the legal arrangements for the New York banks of Hitler’s most important financiers, Fritz Thyssen and Baron Kurt von Schroeder. The Dulles brothers were even said to be at Schroeder’s home for an infamous meeting on January 4, 1933, with Hitler and Franz von Papen, during which Papen agreed to secure Hitler’s appointment as Chancellor of Germany—and Schroeder pledged to continue bankrolling his private army—in exchange for Hitler’s promise to crush the trade unions.)

On November 8, 1942—just before the Nazis sealed off Switzerland’s borders and occupied all of France in retaliation for the American landings in North Africa—Allen Dulles arrived in Bern to assume his post as Swiss station chief for the Office of Strategic Services. The OSS was America’s overseas spying agency, a forerunner to the CIA, and Bern at the time was a hotbed of espionage and financial intrigues. Dulles soon became the über-spider at the center of that intelligence web. He was said to have millions of dollars at his disposal and a direct line to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt. He also had a wife named Clover back at home in the States, but that didn’t prevent him from starting up a convenient romance with one of his early spy recruits, Mary Bancroft.

Bancroft came from a family of Boston Brahmins who’d inherited The Wall Street Journal. Her father, Hugh, a Harvard-educated lawyer, had been publisher of the Journal for five years until his suicide in 1933. Bancroft was a dilettante journalist in her own right and she spoke fluent German. Dulles had been impressed by her insightful analyses of German news articles and speeches that she’d prepared for his Bern advance man in the OSS, Gerry Mayer. She met with Dulles for dinner not long after his move to Bern. They discovered that they had many mutual friends and a lot of other things in common. At thirty-nine, Bancroft was outgoing, well-connected, highly intelligent and intuitive, and sexually voracious outside of her blatantly “open” marriage to a Zurich businessman; Dulles, ten years older, was much the same (except for the part about the Zurich businessman).

As Bancroft explained in her 1983 book, Autobiography of a Spy, when Dulles needed a translator for a memoir being written by Hans Bernd Gisevius—a senior agent in the Nazi Abwehr (the German intelligence service) who was in Switzerland to ostensibly develop contacts with the Allies so they could provide support for an Abwehr plot to depose Hitler—Dulles decided Bancroft was the right woman for the job. Gisevius hoped to have his memoir published simultaneously in English and German as soon as the war ended, thinking he’d be hailed as a hero if the plot to kill Hitler succeeded. Dulles, not completely trusting Gisevius, wanted Bancroft to spy on him while she worked on the translation, but he warned her that if she couldn’t keep the project a secret “five thousand people will be dead.”

(The assassination attempt—Operation Valkyrie—failed on July 20, 1944. Dulles was uncannily right about the number of lives at stake: According to the records of the Führer Conference on Naval Affairs, Hitler retaliated by ordering the execution of 4,980 German conspirators believed responsible for the July Plot.)

Anxious about the number of lives she might be putting at risk, Bancroft, a self-described “blabber,” immediately booked an appointment with Professor Jung to see if he thought she could keep her mouth shut. Jung laughed and assured her that she could indeed keep such a secret, “Although probably only the prospect of five thousand corpses if you didn’t would ever make you do it!” He thought her relationship with Dulles might prove interesting and he encouraged her to pursue it.

Bancroft soon settled into a regular routine during her weekly visits to Bern, spying for Dulles by day and jumping his bones by night—or engaging in “a bit of dalliance,” as she coyly described her bestial rutting with the legendary spymaster. Their pillow talk often revolved around Jung, whom Dulles knew mostly by reputation at that point (they had met only once, at the Harvard Tercentenary in 1936).

One of Jung’s early popularizers in America had been Aleister Crowley, who’d written a lightly mocking and widely-read article about Jung in the December 1916 edition of Vanity Fair titled, “An Improvement on Psychoanalysis: The Psychology of the Unconscious (For Dinner-Table Consumption).” In that article, Crowley had decreed: “Jung’s great work has been to analyze the race-myths, and to find in them the expression of the unconscious longings of humanity.” That aspect of Jung’s work—so different from Freud’s sex-drenched repression theories—was what had initially impressed both Dulles and Bancroft. As she wrote in Autobiography of a Spy:

“In 1936 Jung had published an article entitled ‘Wotan,’ which had caused a great deal of controversy. But I felt that his thesis, namely that the archetypes of the old, primitive, Teutonic gods had broken loose and were affecting the behavior of the entire German nation, was valid. In other words, a whole country had been seized by madness in very much the same way an individual goes insane. This seemed to me then—and still seems to me today—the only possible explanation of such an otherwise incomprehensible and tragic phenomenon.”


Dulles wanted Jung to provide psychological profiles of Hitler, Mussolini, and other Nazi-Fascist leaders; he was also interested in Jung’s opinion on the effectiveness of Allied propaganda campaigns. In fact, he wanted Bancroft to ask Jung so many questions that her analytical sessions with him eventually became devoted to getting Dulles his answers. Then, early in 1943, Jung and Dulles finally met in Zurich at Jung’s house on the lake at Seestrasse 228, where they embarked an experimental “marriage between espionage and psychology” and an intimate friendship that would last until Jung’s death on 6/6/61.

From that first meeting onward, Jung became a sort of senior advisor to Dulles on a weekly, if not almost daily, basis. In Dulles’ reports to OSS headquarters in Washington, Jung became known as Agent 488. Dulles made sure that special attention was paid to Agent 488’s analyses of how German leaders might react to the war’s events, especially Hitler, “in view of his psychopathic characteristics.” Jung had predicted that Hitler would resort to desperate measures in the end, including the possibility of suicide.

By 1945, the Supreme Allied Commander in Europe, General Dwight D. Eisenhower, was reading Agent 488’s views on the best way to persuade the German population to accept defeat, while Dulles was setting the stage for Operation Sunrise—a series of secret negotiations with Waffen-SS General Karl Wolff that resulted in the early surrender of German forces in northern Italy.

And then the war was over.

“So wait… you’re telling us Jung and Dulles psyched out the Germans and put an end to World War II?”

“I’m merely pointing out that they did their part for the Allied cause,” Lloyd says to me. “Jung’s role has never been widely publicized. If it had, his detractors never would have gotten away with floating the specious rumor that he was a closeted Nazi.”

“Jung was a Nazi?” James asks, feigning outrage again.

“He most certainly wasn’t,” says Lloyd, “but beginning around 1950, articles placed in the Saturday Review of Literature and other sources suggested that he’d been sympathetic to the Nazi cause.”

“First Aleister Crowley pimps for him in Vanity Fair—which must’ve laid some heavy guilt by association on him—and then the Saturday Review tries to take him down as a Nazi. It sounds like Jung could’ve used a good PR team.”

“At least he had Allen Dulles on his side. Dulles wrote letters and went on television to vouch for Jung’s deep antipathy to what Nazism and Fascism stood for.”

“Yeah, but who can trust Allen Dulles?” I say. “Wasn’t he the guy who helped import all those Nazi scientists to the U.S. during Operation Paperclip? I mean, didn’t you already tell us that because of Paperclip the Nazi egregore ended up infecting the CIA’s egregore with fascist ideology, which then led to MKULTRA and all kinds of other fucked-up schemes? Or am I not remembering that right?”

“You’re remembering correctly, but that has no bearing on Jung’s integrity,” Lloyd tells me.

“Maybe not, but from everything you’ve told us so far, Allen Dulles sounds like a first-class prick.”

“He’s complicated, to be sure. A solid case could be made that he was a crypto-fascist traitor to his country,” Lloyd says, leaning back on the couch as he pauses to think. “But let’s not forget the tremendous strength of the historical currents he was attempting to navigate. Take Operation Paperclip…. At the end of the war, Dulles shared a house in Wiesbaden with his protégés, Frank Wisner and Richard Helms. All three of them worried that if the U.S. didn’t take in all the high-level Nazi spies and scientists that they could find, the Soviets would put those same men to work and thereby leap ahead of us in every way that counted. So Dulles smuggled the East German spymaster, Reinhard Gehlen, to the U.S. in an American general’s uniform. Helms directed the search for crack kraut scientists like Werner von Braun and Hubertus Strughold to send west. And once Wisner became head of the Office of Policy Coordination in 1948, he started importing Byelorussian Nazis so they could be trained as American paratroopers who would then be dropped behind Soviet lines to spy and fight for us as the Cold War heated up. All of this was accomplished in direct violation of President Truman’s edict that no members of the Nazi Party or their collaborators should be brought into the country. On the one hand, what they did was treasonous—but on the other, it was just a morally dubious collective undertaking by some hawkish government officials who believed they had America’s best interests at heart.”

“Sure. Let’s turn a bunch of anti-Semitic mass murderers loose in America and see how that works out,” James says. “I’m sure that went over just swell in the Catskills.”

“I’m not saying it was the right decision,” says Lloyd, “but it is what happened. And we should always keep in mind that Dulles was familiar with Jungian concepts. To give him the benefit of the doubt, perhaps he saw the importation of the Byelorussian SS and the Paperclip Nazis as a way of ‘integrating the shadow’—reincorporating the despised and repressed collective values of humanity back into the consciousness of Main Street, U.S.A.—so that America could begin to acknowledge its own vile, imperialistic tendencies.”

“I think you’re cutting the guy way too much slack,” James says. “He was just a tool for rich fucks like the Rockefellers, plain and simple.”

“And America is still as imperialistic as ever,” I point out.

“You’ll get no argument from me there,” Lloyd says. “In a large part, we have the Dulles brothers to thank for America’s postwar excesses. The two of them effectively ramped up the Cold War once Eisenhower was elected president. Ike appointed Foster Dulles as his Secretary of State and Allen Dulles as Director of Central Intelligence. It was a tag team that brought us such classic moments in Yankee imperialism as the overthrow of the democratically elected prime minister of Iran, Mohammad Mosaddegh, in 1953; and the coup d’état that deposed the freely elected leader of Guatemala, Jacobo Árbenz Guzmán, in 1954. Puppet dictatorships friendly to U.S. corporate interests were subsequently installed in both countries so we could continue to get our petroleum and bananas on the cheap.”

“Am I the only one who fantasizes about the Chiquita Banana Lady all covered in Vaseline petroleum jelly, or do you guys do it, too?”

“That would just be you, James,” I say, “you imperialist, Third-World-raping dog.” ....
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Re: Agent 488; Carl Jung and the CIA (OSS)

Postby Project Willow » Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:33 pm

^ Might be interested in this:

Dr. Orne demanded that “Executive Action15 be taken. When one of my “splits”, as they referred to my dissociated personalities, asked him (Dr. Orne) what “Executive Action meant?” he replied, “It means we get rid of the little bitch – you! Don’t you get it? You simply disappear, John (Dulles) can order that at any time; and even Mac (John McCone) would never know what happened to you!”


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Re: Agent 488; Carl Jung and the CIA (OSS)

Postby brekin » Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:36 pm

Thanks for sharing the original research and peek at your book, Derek! Nice condensation of a lot of material. The experimental “marriage between espionage and psychology” is definitely intriguing material. Let us know when your book gets published.

One thing I've wondered about is that many of the early Freudians were pretty bad with boundaries regarding female patients as well as influencing patients in regards marriage and financial matters. Also a lot of their clientele were from affluent and powerful segments of society. The first instance would make them very easy to blackmail and the second would make them prime conduits to collect information regarding the personal lives of the rich and powerful, especially their complexes, phobias, fantasies, etc. Seems the intelligence community would want to tap this new priesthood that was privy to such inner jewels.
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Re: Agent 488; Carl Jung and the CIA (OSS)

Postby Elvis » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:45 pm

Thanks for all of that, above. I've just been reading OSS history, and I try to be alert to what Dulles was up to at his station in Bern.

As Bancroft explained in her 1983 book, Autobiography of a Spy


Thanks for that too -- I just purchased the book, should get it in a few days (there's another one on Amazon for about $3 +shipping).



(I have Jung's "Flying Saucers" book but have curiously avoided it for years. I pick it up, and set it back down. Pick it up, set it down...for many years now.)
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Re: Agent 488; Carl Jung and the CIA (OSS)

Postby KeenInsight » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:52 pm

That's not all the "Dulles" was up to.

Slightly Off-Topic: A prominent Warren Commissioner was former CIA Director Allen Dulles, who Kennedy had let go after the Bay of Pigs fiasco. Dulles maintained some contact with the Agency during the Commission's tenure, including coaching it on what questions the Commission might ask; one internal memo summarizing such a contact included this: "I agreed with him [Dulles] that a carefully phrased denial of the charges of involvement with Oswald seemed most appropriate."

Seems "Dulles" handled many.
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Re: Agent 488; Carl Jung and the CIA (OSS)

Postby Derek » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:35 am

As Project Willow's link so clearly points out, ethically-compromised psychiatrists and the CIA have always gone together, kind of like peanut butter and chocolate. But I have too much respect for Jung's intellect to ever think that Dulles could have been his "handler." Was Dulles, on the other hand, influenced by some of Jung's ideas about psychological types, archetypes, and the collective unconscious? Undoubtedly.

For me, Allen Dulles functions as a sort of Rosetta Stone for understanding the many atrocious signifiers of the American Deep State: Operation Paperclip, MKULTRA and its offshoots, the JFK assassination, Operation Gladio, Gladio B, and so on.... It could be argued that Dulles planted the seeds for all those abominations, like some sinister Zelig, or a diabolical Forrest Gump. He did more than perhaps any other single individual (with the possible exception of George H.W. Bush) to put the U.S. on a path toward becoming a crypto-fascist police state. And yet there was something about him that Jung—an astute judge of character if there ever was one—actually seemed to like. When I first found out that they'd been friends during the war, it kind of blew me away. I've been trying to understand that relationship ever since.

Here's some more on Dulles from Crash Gordon and the Revelations from Big Sur, for those who want to go a bit deeper:

Lloyd chuckles indulgently and says: “Buckminster Fuller used to joke that the acronym CIA actually stood for Corporate Invisible Army, but there was always some truth to the jest—especially during Allen Dulles’ tenure, which many consider the ‘golden age’ for CIA covert operations.”

“My stoner witch girlfriend happens to be Buckminster Fuller’s niece,” I mention to him.

“So I’ve heard.”

“How’d you hear that? Have you been spying on me?”

“Only if you consider James to be a master of espionage.”

“I am. I really am,” James says with extravagant smugness. “After all, I’m a proud graduate of the Project MONARCH hypno-zombie school for assassins.”

“You can scoff all you want, but such mind control programs really do exist—and again, their origins in the U.S. can be traced to Allen Dulles.”

“That fucker!” James decries.

“On April 10th, 1953, Dulles addressed the National Alumni Conference of Princeton University on the subject of Brain Warfare,” Lloyd informs us. “He told his audience that the Soviets were ‘using brain perversion techniques as one of their main weapons in prosecuting the Cold War’—techniques ‘so subtle and abhorrent to our way of life that we have recoiled from facing up to them.’ Well… as you might guess, Allen Dulles was just the man to face up to the Brain Warfare gap. After describing some of the enticing brainwashing procedures being utilized by the Soviets, the Red Chinese, and the North Koreans, Dulles lamented that we, in the West, ‘have no human guinea pigs, ourselves, on which to try out these extraordinary techniques.’ Three days later, he remedied that situation by authorizing the CIA’s largest and now most notorious mind control program, MKULTRA.”

“But I thought there were other mind control projects before that…” I say, “like Project BLUEBIRD and Project ARTICHOKE.” I’ve done some independent reading on the subject.

“Of course,” Lloyd confirms, “and Dulles had a hand in those other projects as well. In fact, he’d named MKULTRA’s direct predecessor, Project ARTICHOKE, after his favorite vegetable. Some CIA insiders have told me that Project ARTICHOKE was actually the nastier of the two, so ‘abhorrent to our way of life’ that the CIA’s Security Research branch launched Operation Dormouse in 1975, during the Church Committee investigations, to divert public attention away from ARTICHOKE and back toward MKULTRA, since the bulk of MKULTRA’s incriminating paper history had already been destroyed on the order of Richard Helms in 1973.”

“Helms, the same guy who roomed with Dulles in Wiesbaden?”

“The very man. Richard Helms served as Director of Central Intelligence from 1966 to 1973. He knew that if ARTICHOKE hit the fan and was sprayed across the front page of the Washington Post, it would be the end of his career. Project ARTICHOKE used hypnosis, torture, and psychoactive drugs during sometimes ‘terminal’ interrogation routines. Dulles had been a bit disingenuous with the Princeton crowd about not having any ‘human guinea pigs’ at his disposal. ARTICHOKE’s ultimate goal was alluded to in a CIA memo from January 1952 that posed the question, ‘Can we get control of an individual to the point where he will do our bidding against his will and even against fundamental laws of nature, such as self-preservation?’”

“And the answer to that question is: ‘You want hypno-zombie assassins? We can do it! No problem!’” James fills in. “Everybody knows that now, thanks to Sirhan Sirhan.”

I was already thinking pretty much the same thing. “We’ve heard this MKULTRA stuff from you before,” I say to Lloyd. “So what’s it got to do with Jung and UFOs?”

“I was just getting to that, actually…” Lloyd says, leaning forward to pour the last of the champagne into my glass. “In the early nineteen-fifties—right around the time that Dulles was assembling all the military and civilian ‘Brain Warfare’ projects under the MKULTRA umbrella and handing control of it over to Richard Helms and Doctor Sidney Gottlieb—Jung, over in Switzerland, was becoming fascinated by UFOs. By 1954, he was being accused in the press of being a UFO nut. In response to his critics, Jung published Flying Saucers: A Modern Myth of Things Seen in the Skies. That came out in 1959. Now, if you happen to have read that book, or Jung’s autobiography, you’ll know that he suggested that in many places throughout the world, people are being robbed of their cultural independence and their spiritual autonomy, causing them to secretly hope for redemption—for Christ’s return. But in our age of technology that Christ-image has assumed a new form. According to Jung, it’s now a flying circular symbol that represents a synthesis of the opposites within the psyche: the modern UFO.”

“So UFOs are God?” I ask in a guileless tone.

“They’re piloted by demons, Crash!” James barks at me. “Get it straight!”

“Jung seemed to imply that they were projections from the collective unconscious—the UFO as an archetype that gets its power from human belief. Which is a good starting point, if you ask me,” says Lloyd. “Now, the timing here is interesting…. In 1952, there was a famous wave of UFO sightings over Washington, D.C. during two July weekends in a row. The UFOs showed up on radar, they were visually confirmed by Air Force pilots, and newspaper photos caught them zooming right past the Capitol dome. It was front-page news. The Pentagon held the largest press conference since World War Two so that Air Force Major General John Samford could try to explain away the whole affair as mirage effects caused by temperature inversions. No one who’d witnessed the phenomena believed him.”

“So this was the real deal?” I ask Lloyd.

“I used to think so. Now I’m not so sure. A while back, I ran across some articles written by an obscure chemist who’d worked at the Los Alamos National Laboratory. Leon Davidson was his name. He did some independent research into the Washington UFO flap and came to the conclusion that the whole thing had been staged. He knew that the technology to create false readings on radar screens has existed since at least 1945. It’s called Electronic Countermeasures, or ECM. With a nod to Einstein, Davidson came up with a rather elegant equation: ECM + CIA = UFO. It’s a summation of his belief that the CIA was using ECM technology to provide bogus radar confirmation of UFOs, so that more people would believe in them. He suspected that pre-planned ‘flying saucer’ events were being used as a psyops tool in the Cold War. And whom do you think Davidson singled out as the mastermind behind this crafty scheme?”

“Allen Dulles!” James and I both say at once.

“Right. Davidson wrote that Dulles had ‘adopted a concept from his old friend Carl Jung, and co-opted the myth that benign aliens have visited Earth for millennia.’ It was done with magicians’ illusions, tricks, and showmanship. Hell, for all we know, Dulles might have been cutting back channel deals with Disneyland’s Imagineers.”

“Why?” I ask. “What was the point?”

“Davidson suggested that trumped up UFO sightings might be used to sow confusion and doubt about legitimate military test sightings, such as the U-2 spy plane taking off from Area 51. And carefully leaked stories about UFO crashes like the Roswell Incident could have frightened the Russians into thinking that the U.S. had access to incredibly advanced alien technology. I realize that sounds counterintuitive in light of the strenuous efforts by the Air Force to deny, debunk, or cover up almost everything related to UFOs, but there’s solid evidence that saucer believers and their organizations, like NICAP, were unwittingly used as CIA propaganda vehicles to further belief in extraterrestrial encounters. If it hadn’t been for this relatively small number of early extraterrestrial enthusiasts, the concept of UFOs coming from outer space might not have caught on.”

“That’s so twisted it almost seems like genius,” I say.

“Welcome to the Luciferian realm of Allen Welsh Dulles,” Lloyd says. “By the 1953, Dulles, Wisner, and Helms had become the CIA’s Unholy Trinity—father, son, and Unholy Ghost—although Wisner suffered a mental breakdown in 1956 and was replaced in that equation by the master spy appointed by Dulles as his Counterintelligence Chief, James Jesus Angleton.”

“Jesus! He had the right middle name for it, at least,” I point out.

“When Angleton was at Yale, he edited a poetry magazine called Furioso. He used to hang out with T.S. Eliot and Ezra Pound,” James tells me. “Cool guy.”

“Think about what they were up to in those days,” Lloyd marvels. “Wisner had become Deputy Director for Plans and was busy subverting the free press in America and abroad with Operation Mockingbird. He bragged that he had so many journalists on his payroll that he could play the major media outlets ‘like a mighty Wurlitzer.’ Helms had become Wisner’s Chief of Operations, still tasked with overseeing MKULTRA and toppling foreign governments, among other covert action ops. Angleton was hunting moles and cultivating his ties to Israel’s Mossad and the Italian Mafia. And Dulles, God-like, watched over it all as DCI.”

“And these guys were all working overtime to make the public believe in aliens?”

“That’s my take on it,” says Lloyd. “I’m convinced the CIA was purposively deceiving not only the general public, but also other branches of government. They had good reason: If they could create the impression that a shadow faction within our own government had direct dealings with extraterrestrials, they could accrue almost limitless power and black budget funding.”

“Give us all your tax dollars, or the little grey guys fly down here in their fleet of spaceships and go on a butt-probing rampage,” says James in his velvety, midnight radio DJ’s voice.

“Some researchers believe that process was actually begun in 1954,” Lloyd continues, “when President Eisenhower went missing for a day while he was vacationing in Palm Springs. A newswire report went out announcing his death, but it was soon contradicted by another report stating that Ike had been spirited away for an ‘emergency dental treatment.’ Others contend, however, that while the President was out of sight he was secretly taken to Edwards Air Force Base, where he was shown some flying saucers and introduced to their passengers: a visiting delegation of tall, blonde aliens with icy blue eyes known as the ‘Nordics.’ Supposedly, it was the first of a series of meetings with various extraterrestrial races, which resulted in a treaty being signed between the United States of America and the Galactic Federation of Whateverthefuck.”

“That sounds like fucking bullshit,” I say.

“I don’t entirely trust the original sources for the story myself,” Lloyd admits, “but imagine if Dulles and Company had been able to stage such a thing convincingly enough so that Eisenhower bought it. That would help explain the CIA’s ever-expanding black budgets and its metastasizing influence over our country’s affairs. By the mid-fifties, J. Edgar Hoover had become so jealous of the exponentially increasing power of ‘Wisner’s gang of weirdos’ that he sicced Senator Joseph McCarthy on them. Aided by the FBI’s interagency snooping, McCarthy started accusing the CIA of being ‘a sinkhole of communists’—but he was no match for Wizner’s mighty Wurlitzer. Operation Mockingbird destroyed the red-baiting senator’s reputation tout de suite.

“That was probably a good thing,” James observes. “So maybe the CIA’s not so bad, after all.”

“John F. Kennedy didn’t share your benign view,” Lloyd counters. “Right after the failure of the Agency’s Operation Zapata in 1961—more widely known as the Bay of Pigs Invasion—Kennedy said he wanted to ‘shred the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter them to the four winds.’ Of course, we all know what happened to Kennedy.”

“Blammo!” says James.

“Kennedy fired Allen Dulles as Director of Central Intelligence right after the Bay of Pigs fiasco, but two years later LBJ turned around and asked Dulles to serve on the Warren Commission investigation into JFK’s assassination. A slight conflict of interest there, I would say… especially since Dulles likely set the assassination plot in motion in the first place. He and Helms and Angleton would have been just the men to pull it off.”

“So it was Allen Dulles on the grassy knoll!” James shouts in a facetious Aha! moment.

“I believe he masterminded the scheme,” Lloyd says, draining the last of his champagne with a nonchalant tip of his glass. “And he undeniably played a leading role in the subsequent cover-up. Helms or Cord Meyer would have organized the shooters—David Sánchez Morales, Frank Sturgis, and E. Howard Hunt, perhaps—and made sure they were provided with counterfeit Secret Service IDs for a quick getaway. Angleton would have handled the Mafia’s end of things—Carlos Marcello and Jack Ruby’s services, in particular. CIA hits within the U.S. were usually contracted to the Mafia in those days, but I suspect the so-called ‘rogue elements’ within the Agency would have wanted to keep things a bit more personal for Kennedy’s Big Event.”

“Can you really call them ‘rogue elements’ when you’re talking about some of the famous names in CIA history?” I ask Lloyd.

“No. You really can’t,” Lloyd says with a shake of his massive head. “JFK’s assassination was a nothing less than a coup d’état orchestrated by the CIA—at the behest, perhaps, of General Lyman Lemnitzer and the other Joint Chiefs of Staff—on behalf of a shadow oligarchy of obscenely rich and powerful globalists operating behind the false front of American democracy.”

“But what about Lee Harvey Oswald? How did he fit it?”

“Oswald… that poor numbskull. When he said, ‘I’m just a patsy!’ truer words were never spoken. Remember Allen Dulles’ spy-mistress in Switzerland, Mary Bancroft? She happened to be a very good friend of Ruth Forbes Paine Young, mother-in-law of Ruth Paine—the woman who took in Marina Oswald and her children and helped Lee Harvey Oswald get a job at the Texas School Book Depository. Oswald allegedly stored the rifle that killed Kennedy in Ruth Paine’s garage. The testimony of Ruth Paine and her semi-estranged husband, Michael, took up more pages in the Warren Commission Report than the testimony of any other witnesses—and the Paines probably did more than anyone to condemn Oswald as the lone gunman. Did they have CIA connections? It was a question worth asking, but no one on the Warren Commission wanted to go there. However, I can tell you that Ruth’s older sister, Sylvia, had been working for the CIA for eight years at the time of the assassination and Michael Paine did highly classified work for Bell Helicopter, a major Defense Department contractor. So what do you think?”
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Re: Agent 488; Carl Jung and the CIA (OSS)

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:38 am

This stuff is solid gold, thank you so much for sharing, Derek.
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Re: Agent 488; Carl Jung and the CIA (OSS)

Postby guruilla » Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:04 pm

Yeah, ditto Derek, tho unfortunately I don't have time to read the longer passages right now.

I just found out about the Jung-Dulles connection about a week ago, reading Mirage Men, and it potentially throws a spanner in my own works as I've been drawing on Jung's writings more and more in my psychological exploration of the UFO.

Now I will probably have to include some qualifiers in there, damn it! The question that always arises for me when I discover that someone I previously admired or whose writings I "put stock in" has suspicious affiliations is - how much does this compromise the material itself? Because of course it doesn't change so much as the dot on a single 'I,' and if there's dubious elements in there, then in theory I could have spotted them already.

One thing to consider I guess is that back in the late forties and fifties, with the Collective Shadow of Nazism being the largest demon-object on the historical screen, the idea that the OSS/CIA might be part of the same pathology - an idea which we take for granted today - was probably pretty much unthinkable. Not to be making apologies for Jung, but trying to reconcile his obvious intelligence and seeming sensitivity and insight with what looks to us now as a seriously compromising career decision (and choice of smoking buddies).

And face it, such a choice is one that most of us never get to find out if we'd make it or not.
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Re: Agent 488; Carl Jung and the CIA (OSS)

Postby Project Willow » Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:10 pm

Derek » 02 Jul 2013 06:35 wrote:
Here's some more on Dulles from Crash Gordon and the Revelations from Big Sur, for those who want to go a bit deeper:



NICE.

Would really like to see it in heavily referenced, non-fiction, article form.
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Re: Agent 488; Carl Jung and the CIA (OSS)

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:24 pm

Have been forwarded the following by a fellow traveller:

http://citation.allacademic.com//meta/p ... 0188-1.php

I have contacted the author (I think!) to request a PDF or DOC copy so I can add the text to this thread without retyping her paper.
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Re: Agent 488; Carl Jung and the CIA (OSS)

Postby guruilla » Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:38 pm

Seems like there's no print option either.
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Re: Agent 488; Carl Jung and the CIA (OSS)

Postby brekin » Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:01 pm

Derek wrote:

Was Dulles, on the other hand, influenced by some of Jung's ideas about psychological types, archetypes, and the collective unconscious? Undoubtedly.


I think one of the articles I posted above talked about how Jung encouraged and (possibly help start?) Dulles look into hand writing analyses for intelligence work. If I get the chance today I'll look for the text.

Another thing I wonder about is Jung's work being used for personality testing. We know about the Jung influenced Myers Briggs and the military's involvement in the S.A.T. but I wonder if Dulles thought of applying some of Jung's theories to personality testing and profiling large numbers of people for intelligence purposes?
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