What's With Homophobia In Conspiracy Culture?

[mulebone]

Gee, I've been reading crackpot conspiracy BS for 30+ years. The stories are endlessly swatted back & forth between right & left. The only thing that changes are minor plot points. Now that an imaginary "left wing" government is in power, the plot point tweaking involves "the gay agenda."

If it were a right wing government, the tweaked plot point would involve an "anti-gay agenda." Or, more likely, how the right wingers in power will "never let an election happen because they can't risk being voted out, and yadda yadda yadda blah de blah de blah..."

That was an RI fav during the Bush years if I remember correctly.

As far as Disney being part of "the Illuminati" because they're gay friendly, I know that if you troll back in time on the RI blog you'll find that Disney is part of the Illuminati for entirely different, and probably equally spurious, reasons.

I've come to believe that the entire conspiracy meme is, at its heart, a complete invention.

Not that conspiracies don't exist, it's just that the people who write about them really have no clue as to their real nature. And, being human and pathologically incapable of just saying "I don't know," they feel compelled to endlessly ramble on & invent an insight that they don't really have.

You see it here, endlessly reiterated ad nauseum.

For example,

"the MSM is directing full attention to this story so it must mean something nefarious & yadda yadda yadda blah de blah de blah....."

Or

"Does this story signal the beginning of the end game because I'm so adept at prophecy I can discern the future & yadda yadda yadda blah de blah de blah..."

I find it curious that being wrong once or twice or thrice squared never deters, even for an instant, the conspiracy genius from posting further insights & prophecies that are as empty & pointless & wrong as their last series of insights & prophecies.

I also find it curious that conspiracy truth seekers rarely call out members of their social group for past lapses in reality. They just march onward like the suburban van driving daddy who refuses to stop & ask for directions until everyone is hopelessly lost. I also imagine that this explains why conspiracy theorizing is primarily a male preoccupation. Although, just like with lung cancer, heart disease & hypertension, I'm sure that the women will soon catch up.

I suppose that all of this has more to do with group psychology, even completely imaginary groups like Internut forums, than anyone's desire to know "da troof."

I also suspect that folk have just enough information to be paranoid but never enough information to find out exactly who or what they should be paranoid about.

It probably also has a lot to with the Internut's ability to draw in a constant influx of new faces who are generally unaware of the twisted roots of their favorite conspiracy crapola. They read some rambling revolutionary wannabe &, lacking any appreciable critical thinking skills, swallow their bullshit like it was a juicy steak and then pass it on like a virus.

That's why I usually tell any budding conspiracy wonk that I meet to refrain from wasting their time with Internut conspiracy cashews & their almondy friends. Their time would be better spent getting laid or learning to play the mandolin or even staring at Vince 'Walter White' Gilligan's "I could be a drug dealing suburban white boy Grand Theft Auto 50 cent gangsta if I wanted" Breaking Wind fantasy, if, for no other reason, than it's funny as hell. Unintentionally funny, but funny none the less.

Still, it's about style. My father doesn't accept being born a serf, either, but he copes by watching Fox News and fantasizing about lining liberals against a wall and shooting them all for ruining his country. Hopefully I can avoid the same fate when I reach his age.

Then of course, there are all the over-aged adolescents with unresolved daddy issues...

But that is far too trite & boring to get into...

[stillrobertpaulsen]

My, wasn't that prodigious! Don't forget to wipe.

[8bitagent]

I find it curious that being wrong once or twice or thrice squared never deters, even for an instant, the conspiracy genius from posting further insights & prophecies that are as empty & pointless & wrong as their last series of insights & prophecies.

I also find it curious that conspiracy truth seekers rarely call out members of their social group for past lapses in reality. They just march onward like the suburban van driving daddy who refuses to stop & ask for directions until everyone is hopelessly lost. I also imagine that this explains why conspiracy theorizing is primarily a male preoccupation. Although, just like with lung cancer, heart disease & hypertension, I'm sure that the women will soon catch up.

/nailed it.

[8bitagent]

I've come to believe that the entire conspiracy meme is, at its heart, a complete invention.

Remember, no matter what shooting tragedy in America happens that gets media coverage

- It was orchestrated to inch us closer to gub'mint taking away our guns
- There had to be a report of a "second shooter"
- There has to be a "drill" going on around the same time by authorities mimicking the actual event
- Grieving family members are always suspects as plants or dupes
- If one of the victims or the perp has a six degree of Kevin Bacon separation from someone who had some
sort of importance, 100% it was a "black op"

[Wombaticus Rex]

I also imagine that this explains why conspiracy theorizing is primarily a male preoccupation. Although, just like with lung cancer, heart disease & hypertension, I'm sure that the women will soon catch up.

Best chuckle I've had all day, thank you.

[SonicG]

I've come to believe that the entire conspiracy meme is, at its heart, a complete invention.

Remember, no matter what shooting tragedy in America happens that gets media coverage

- It was orchestrated to inch us closer to gub'mint taking away our guns
- There had to be a report of a "second shooter"
- There has to be a "drill" going on around the same time by authorities mimicking the actual event
- Grieving family members are always suspects as plants or dupes
- If one of the victims or the perp has a six degree of Kevin Bacon separation from someone who had some
sort of importance, 100% it was a "black op"

And since we really seem to have passed the point of no return, the level of fantasizing must also ramp up, as well the real incidents...and those practicing the Dark Arts remain in the shadows? For some reason it made me think about two mass murders that occurred in my home area of San Diego. I remember the Cleveland Elementary School one quite well - I was in 7th grade and lived across the street from my junior high. The McDs one was just tragic to hear about. I did a brief search for conspiracy stuff behind these but they seem to have fallen through the cracks. Wikiliepedia whatever, their stories sound so genuine and so tragic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_ ... (San_Diego)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Ysidro ... s_massacre

Sorry, this has really gotten off-topic but speaking of things evolving at a rapid pace these days, homosexuality does seem to be coming more and more to the forefront in popular culture, and now with this wonderful storm of Russian Olympics? Putin is certainly a divisive character although I have a feeling he gets high praise from far-right circles for sticking it to the ZOG and winking at good ole gay-bashing, wacking off to their fantasy of Putin taking over the UN or something...Meanwhile, urban liberals will continue to be successful in more gay marriage, more weed even as they try to defend themselves from the Great Hollowing of the middle class...

[Sounder]

Jack wrote...

EDIT: I guess in some unfortunate way we're on the perennial subject of why do Alex Jones et al. talk so much wrong and hateful trash

Because his sponsors want wrong and hateful trash to be a poison pill to the truth.

and why does anyone still listen to it?

Because it tickles their pretences, same as with anybody that 'follows' anything.

[stillrobertpaulsen]

...Meanwhile, urban liberals will continue to be successful in more gay marriage, more weed even as they try to defend themselves from the Great Hollowing of the middle class...

Bingo, you have seen the future. We will have the right to do whatever we want. We just won't be able to afford it.

[JackRiddler]

/nailed it.

You probably realize the clip shows Orson Welles as Charles Foster Kane. In Citizen Kane, this is the moment after Kane has spent months relentlessly shaping and promoting his hapless paramour into an opera diva, despite her unwillingness and her lack of talent. She has just had her woeful big-city debut. No one applauds. Everyone is appalled. Kane, still king in the opera house he has built, demonstratively begins to clap. Today, people keep using this gif animation of the scene when they wish to convey exceptional applause to others, but I do not think it means what they think it means.

[8bitagent]

/nailed it.

You probably realize the clip shows Orson Welles as Charles Foster Kane. In Citizen Kane, this is the moment after Kane has spent months relentlessly shaping and promoting his hapless paramour into an opera diva, despite her unwillingness and her lack of talent. She has just had her woeful big-city debut. No one applauds. Everyone is appalled. Kane, still king in the opera house he has built, demonstratively begins to clap. Today, people keep using this gif animation of the scene when they wish to convey exceptional applause to others, but I do not think it means what they think it means.

And this is why we love you:)

[chump]

Gee, I've been reading crackpot conspiracy BS for 30+ years. The stories are endlessly swatted back & forth between right & left. The only thing that changes are minor plot points. Now that an imaginary "left wing" government is in power, the plot point tweaking involves "the gay agenda."

If it were a right wing government, the tweaked plot point would involve an "anti-gay agenda." Or, more likely, how the right wingers in power will "never let an election happen because they can't risk being voted out, and yadda yadda yadda blah de blah de blah..."

FWIW:

http://www.smoking-mirrors.com/2013/08/ ... s-and.html

Hypocrites, Disinfo Agents, Halfwits and the Big One.

If enough people believe in an Anti-Christ, you will get an anti-Christ. If you're all hung up about the Marduk (Quack! Quack!) you got pages and pages you can read about it. Why not? If enough people want the Dajjal, they will get a Dajjal. If enough people want a Mahdi, they will get a Mahdi or some reasonable facsimile thereof. If enough people want a second coming, they will get one but they might not recognize it, since they didn't see the first coming to begin with.


Everything is mind born; thought born. Everything comes out of consciousness. Mathematicians have already proven what Invictus junkies are arguing about. The main problem with the human mind, besides the fact that it will be seriously limited for so long as it remains human, is what happens to it when the ego gets it's hands on it, as it routinely does. The unevolved ego (most egos) likes to fabricate a personal world view. This it does, regardless of the fact that it doesn't know squat and that most of what it comes up with, is comparable to what it produces when it goes into a squat. It fabricates this world view around the specificness of it's appetites and ambitions and out of this it gets a personalized reality.


There are very few people walking around, whose realities are free of the manipulations of appetite and ambition. Those who are, know that anyone they meet can hurt them and will hurt them, the moment they get between them and their appetites and ambitions. Therefore they have to develop a a sort of 'yes dear' reflex, a 'whatever you say' surface deflection system, to keep the hungry hordes at bay. Anyone who's ever performed on a larger stage, knows that sometimes the crowd looks like something you feel like you should throw raw meat at, instead of music; I'm not kidding.


So, what do you do, when you know it's all a joke and that everything you see, everywhere you've been, or will be on this plane, is passing from your view, even while you look at it, is temporary and terminal and doomed? Everyone you meet is a walking corpse, a short term flower that blooms and fades and then goes to dust. As the Preacher in Ecclesiastes puts it, “Vanity, all is vanity”. This is a hard cold fact. All of these things just mentioned are hard cold facts. You can't argue against them, as they are demonstrably proven, so... what the fuck are you doing? And... why are you doing it? You can do your own Jaywalk about this and get any number of variants on “Whut? Whut”? Speak into the mic.


Is there any question that people are lying to themselves 24/7? Is there any question of an odious and pandering atmosphere to that link posted, concerning Natural News and its host? Cui Bono in all its forms. Who does it benefit and who benefits me as a result? Does he say to himself, “I do all kinds of good work but in order to live my upscale lifestyle I have to cut deals with the moneychangers”? That kind of thing makes me sick. I would rather starve. I would rather pass my days here in relative obscurity and perpetually living on the edge, knowing that I will always be cared for by mysterious means, than to tell myself that it's okay to embrace a certain amount of deceit. You just have to conceal it well. You have to keep it out of sight but... you can't, can you? You can't

You can eat those canapés and tell yourself it's caviar instead of shit. You can acquire a taste for it. You can spend your hours in rooms with people like yourself, all of you sold out and bought off and willing to do whatever you have to do, to keep the gravy train coming by your house. Your masters have promised you that they'll run damage control for you and hey! Most people are so incredibly stupid and most people would do what you are doing anyway so; what's the big deal? What's the big deal? This is how it works. You want The Big One!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIbksREm ... r_embedded

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http://kennysideshow.blogspot.com/2013/ ... plete.html

[norton ash]

Colbert on the Gay Agenda that is ruining America. (Still convinced Colbert is angelic by nature.)

[Twyla LaSarc]

I find it curious that being wrong once or twice or thrice squared never deters, even for an instant, the conspiracy genius from posting further insights & prophecies that are as empty & pointless & wrong as their last series of insights & prophecies.

I also find it curious that conspiracy truth seekers rarely call out members of their social group for past lapses in reality. They just march onward like the suburban van driving daddy who refuses to stop & ask for directions until everyone is hopelessly lost. I also imagine that this explains why conspiracy theorizing is primarily a male preoccupation. Although, just like with lung cancer, heart disease & hypertension, I'm sure that the women will soon catch up.

There is a phenomenon in cult studies regarding predictions and end of the world dates that pass by without happening.

A few people walk away, but many double down their belief and put their money, time and energy on the next date or prediction, becoming more ardent and militant in the process.

Conspiracy theory cult beliefs often dovetail nicely with conservative apocalyptic religious cults. I'd love to compare the numbers, probably be a hell of a venn diagram.

[MacCruiskeen]

There is no such thing as "conspiracy culture".

[Wombaticus Rex]

There is no such thing as "conspiracy culture".

...OR IS THAT JUST WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO THINK???