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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

Postby justdrew » Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:40 am

Searcher08 » 20 Oct 2013 03:08 wrote:
justdrew » Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:28 am wrote:anyone know anything new about that guy building the network of automated skywatching machines? (can't remember a keyword to look it up)


Was that Douglas Trumbull (sp?) the guy who did the special effects for 2001?


yep, that's it. Looks like "nothing yet" I guess :shrug:
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

Postby elfismiles » Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:04 am

Supposedly we were supposed to see a ten minute bit back in August?

Douglas Trumbull's UFOTOG will light up screens in 120 fps, 4K 3D ...
http://www.hfrmovies.com/2013/07/10/dou ... fps-4k-3d/
Jul 10, 2013 - If all goes well filmmaker Douglas Trumbull will wow audiences this August with a 10 minute, 120 fps 3D short film titled UFOTOG (short for UFO ...

Douglas Trumbull, Natalie Wood's Last Director, Returns With Sci-Fi Project
3:45 PM PDT 6/17/2013 by Carolyn Giardina
The man who invented the visuals behind "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "Blade Runner," who "just had to stop" when Wood died in an off-set accident as "Brainstorm" was in production, is helming "UFOTOG" in 4K 3D at 120 fps.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behind ... ast-569988

justdrew » 20 Oct 2013 10:40 wrote:
Searcher08 » 20 Oct 2013 03:08 wrote:
justdrew » Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:28 am wrote:anyone know anything new about that guy building the network of automated skywatching machines? (can't remember a keyword to look it up)


Was that Douglas Trumbull (sp?) the guy who did the special effects for 2001?


yep, that's it. Looks like "nothing yet" I guess :shrug:


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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

Postby elfismiles » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:00 pm

Wombaticus Rex » 06 Oct 2013 14:08 wrote:My favorite UFO sociology: reading the comments on Billy Cox articles, where he is relentlessly smeared as disinformation and part of the coverup for even the mildest criticisms and questions of UFO true believers!

The tidal wave of shit he gets for applying critical thinking to a subject he's been covering for decades is a spectacle and a half.

How he keeps going is beyond me but very inspirational.



Here's To The New Normal
By Billy Cox, Herald-Tribune
Tuesday, October 22, 2013

Oh, to have contacts in Peru.

De Void's most cynical impulse is to write off UFO headlines
emanating from that South American nation last week as a
distraction from some recent troubling corruption stories. Last
week is when we also learned the World Bank estimates 80 percent
of Peru's logging exports are illegally harvested, and that an
estimated 15,000 dolphins are slaughtered off its Pacific coast
each year by fisherman who mutilate their cetacean kills into
shark bait. Yeah, you'd definitely like to swing the
international spotlight away from that skank.

On the other hand, Peru's announced plans to rouse its dormant
UFO research office, OIFAA, from slumber merely conforms to
evolving regional attitudes on the phenomenon. Chile, Ecuador,
Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay all conduct official UFO
investigations, unencumbered by the sort of silly adolescent
political/media blowback those sorts of initiatives would surely
provoke here in the States. In fact, DINEA, Peru's Office of
Aerospace Interests, actually invited the press to attend the
formal announcement last Friday in Lima. Imagine the feeding
frenzy in the U.S. under parallel circumstances: "Jobless Claims
Rise While Gov't Chases Flying Saucers", "Congressional Outrage:
'No Greenbacks for Little Green Men!'" "Close Encounters of the
Slurred Kind!"

Truth is, De Void would love to know how much it'll cost
Peruvian taxpayers to resuscitate OIFAA. Best guess:

http://devoid.blogs.heraldtribune.com/1 ... c-inquiry/
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

Postby operator kos » Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:58 pm

Here's a missive from Stephen Bassett. He's done some questionable things over the years IMO, but I like what he has to say here. Thinking of Disclosure as a magic bullet for society's ills may be a bit naive and wishful, but he nevertheless makes a point about the political importance of it and about how bad things have gotten (not that that's news). Anyways...

Disclosure and the State of the Union
COMMENTARY In the past I have steadfastly avoided straying too far from the core issues of the ET truth embargo and government abuse of secrecy. I am going to make an exception with this commentary. At the end of this non-partisan essay you will find out why.

The recent debacle in Washington, DC over the budget and debt ceiling is only one of many indicators the body politic is suffering from multiple organ failure. Nations, empires, kingdoms - they die the same way people do. No society is perfect, no person is perfectly healthy. Both can withstand the odd dysfunction (illness). When the illness spreads and becomes multiple organ failure the person (society) dies or is enfeebled.

It happened to the Sun-never-sets-on-the-British Empire. The Soviet Union was able to sustain multiple system dysfunction well past its shelf life by sheer force of raw suppression, but inevitably blew up into fifteen republics (mercifully without too much violence). And, of course, there is the famous and extensively studied collapse of the Roman Empire. What took several hundred years in the time of Rome now can be accomplished in a few decades.

That said, it still takes years to achieve the state of affairs in which the U. S. now finds itself. Time enough for too many citizens to not see the process of failure unfold. Not anymore. Eventually the suffering person realizes they are terminally ill. The American people, thanks in large part to the power of the Internet, are now quite aware their vaunted society is coming apart at the seams. Let's review.

-- The two-party political system by virtue of bad law, bad judicial decisions and pure greed for money and power has frozen into a block of ice ("Some say the world will end in fire......"). New ideas are strangled in their crib. New political parties are throttled. Independent candidates crippled.

-- The American education system is slowly imploding with U. S. students collectively falling further behind other nations in every category.

-- The American health care system, while satisfactory for the very wealthy, is collectively one of the worst in the developed, industrialized world. It is helping to destroy the middle class - the primary engine of social stability. Health issues are the leading cause of personal bankruptcy.

-- The massive U.S. military spending - not long ago greater than all other nations in the world combined - guarantees that fiscal balance and adequate funding in support of the human condition will not be possible.

-- Along with war spending, massive entitlement commitments made without any effort to control that war spending going back to 1960 now place the nation in immediate debt of $17 trillion dollars with an almost incomprehensible long term exposure of $80 to $100 trillion in unfunded liabilities.

-- Economic recovery after the 2008/2009 greatest train robbery is a temporary illusion created by an enormous "printing" of $trillions of new money that will eventually lead to inflation.

-- The investment and standard banking industries have bought politicians to pass laws that have allowed a massive shift of wealth to the upper class and stripping the middle class of pensions, jobs, home values, and home ownership. Virtually no one is held criminally accountable for this. Eventual fines are trivial.

-- Behind the confiscation of middle class assets by the investment banking abuses is the exposure to derivatives (casino debt). Some experts claim this exposure is over $200 trillion. If you're counting, that's over $300 trillion in risk exposure for the U. S. society.

-- Voting systems in the U. S. are an antiquated joke with voter turnout one of the lowest in the developed world. This is made worse by a venal policy of one of the political parties to suppress voter turnout in every way possible that would undermine the other political party.

-- The very infrastructure of the nation - roads, bridges, dams, waterways, power grids, sewers - are falling apart with little funds to fix. $2.5 trillion of investment is needed by 2020. Half baked efforts and illusionary promises are put forward that few believe sufficient.

-- American international influence, trust levels and esteem are declining under a plethora of terrible policies, brutal war measures and outright stupidity.

-- American political institutions, particularly the U. S. Congress, have fallen to record levels of disapproval, and distrust in government has polarized the nation making common sense policies next to impossible.

-- The U. S. dollar, the cornerstone of American financial power, is being circled by a number of nations quite willing to replace or diminish it for their own benefit. The U. S. literally submits to this process with profoundly destructive financial decisions year after year. Loss of reserve currency status all or in part would trigger significant inflation.

-- American manufacturing jobs are disappearing by being shoved off shore or replaced by low paying service jobs at minimum wage.

-- The gap between the rich and poor grows and the American middle class is diminished. This is a recipe for violence and disorder in the most heavily armed nation in the world.

-- The criminal system is antiquated, extraordinarily expensive and hamstrung by absurd laws which have created the highest level of incareration in the world.

-- The food industry is being taken over by a consortium of companies led by Monsanto that intend to own a re-engineered food and seed supply designed to force the use of their own pesticides in mass quantities. Few things are more representative of the concept of system failure than the losses in the honey bee population (Colony Collapse Disorder). Growing evidence connects CCD to the actions of companies like Monsanto, easily the most dangerous corporation in the world today. The environmental impact will be devastating. The government does nothing. Huge corporate spending thwarts citizen activism.

-- Lastly, a secret empire was built to service the $10+ trillion (in adjusted dollars) Cold War (acknowledged) and address the presence of extraterrestrials (non-human intelligence) engaging the planet (not acknowledged). This "empire" has become a world unto itself with a low opinion (perhaps justifiable) of politicians meaning senators, congresspersons, the president and their staff. Just yesterday the White House indicated the NSA had not informed the President about the suveillance of foreign heads of state's phone calls. This empire is vast, out of control and in dire need of overhaul and reform.

Read enough? It's a partial list, but the point is made.

Why am I telling you this?

The children, grandchildren and great grandchildren of the baby boomers are more likely to inherit a greatly diminished rather than a viable society moving forward unless something very powerful, very profound intervenes to short circuit the mutitude of current trends leading to the emasculation of America.

What could possibly be sufficiently powerful to alter the world view of political institutions, corporations, and 300+ million people overnight and open the door to multi-system reform? The usual candidate is a war equal to the magnitude of distress. The last version of that scenario was WWII. Sadly any war worthy of the present dilemma would destroy the world itself. What does that leave?

Disclosure. Every day the citizens of Earth are denied the truth they are not alone in the galaxy as senient life, that a vast new world awaits them when that truth is out in the open - a world where once again all things are possible - is one more day closer to the end of the American Dream - the 21st Century nightmare study after study projects.

Dislcosure will be the most profound event in human history. It is inevitable, but will it be soon enough? All who have a basic understanding of this have a decision to make. Stand up and support the Dislcosure advocacy movement or stand down and hope for the best.
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:02 pm

Does anyone else think the Disclosure narrative is hopelessly neutered because it implicity gives our "Rulers" the power to dictate reality? In other words, aliens aren't real until the priests say so?

Just checking.
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

Postby brainpanhandler » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:09 pm

Wombaticus Rex » Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:02 pm wrote:Does anyone else think the Disclosure narrative is hopelessly neutered because it implicity gives our "Rulers" the power to dictate reality? In other words, aliens aren't real until the priests say so?

Just checking.


Sure. But what would happen if government officials officially disclosed and provided the irrefutable evidence?
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:15 pm

if the aliens aren't gonna help with Fukushima does it really matter?
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:16 pm

brainpanhandler » Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:09 pm wrote:
Wombaticus Rex » Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:02 pm wrote:Does anyone else think the Disclosure narrative is hopelessly neutered because it implicity gives our "Rulers" the power to dictate reality? In other words, aliens aren't real until the priests say so?

Just checking.


Sure. But what would happen if government officials officially disclosed and provided the irrefutable evidence?


I would imagine Alex Jones would run coverage for months about the false flag psyop, no?
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

Postby elfismiles » Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:25 pm

Wombaticus Rex » 29 Oct 2013 17:02 wrote:Does anyone else think the Disclosure narrative is hopelessly neutered because it implicity gives our "Rulers" the power to dictate reality? In other words, aliens aren't real until the priests say so?

Just checking.


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Re: UFO Press Club Press Conference on Monday, September 27t
by elfismiles » 27 Sep 2010 18:52
viewtopic.php?p=358085#p358085

And I think McKenna, Vallee, myself and others (heck, even Steven Greer with his "When Disclosure Serves Secrecy" white paper pre and post 911) have gotten word out about the possible Grand UFO Deception scenarios:

When Disclosure Serves Secrecy
http://www.ufoupdateslist.com/1999/oct/m25-011.shtml

Am looking for the Post-911 version of that discussion on that list...


elfismiles » 27 Sep 2010 19:21 wrote:
elfismiles wrote:Am looking for the Post-911 version of that discussion on that list...


Looks like that post of mine at UFO UpDates slipped from their archive:

Greer: "Pentagon Plans ET Hoax" - UFO UpDates - Toronto [186]
http://www.ufoupdateslist.com/2003/nov/m20-005.shtml

http://www.ufoupdateslist.com/2003/nov/

[EDIT: Aha! It is hidden... http://www.ufoupdateslist.com/2003/nov/m23-016.shtml ]


Re: Greer: "Pentagon Plans ET Hoax" - Lewis

From: Stephen Miles Lewis <>
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:27:20 -0600
Fwd Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:44:50 -0500
Subject: Re: Greer: "Pentagon Plans ET Hoax" - Lewis>Source: Global Village News and Resources

>http://www.gvnr.com/74/editorial.htm
>Issue 74 - November 17, 2003

>Pentagon Plans ET Hoax

>Qaeda to ET's - The Search For Bogeymen
>by
>Steven M. Greer MD
>Director, The Disclosure Project
<snip>
http://www.PropagandaMatrix.com/counterfeit_foe.html

http://www.ufoupdateslist.com/2003/nov/m23-016.shtml


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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

Postby NeonLX » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:51 pm

seemslikeadream » Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:15 pm wrote:if the aliens aren't gonna help with Fukushima does it really matter?


Oh jeez...you're right.
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

Postby justdrew » Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:50 am

http://www.openminds.tv/retired-usaf-officer-talks-about-aliens-and-nukes-the-ufo-cabal-and-his-abduction-experience-1190/

it's Robert Salas. See the first comment in particular, you could even skip right down to it.
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

Postby Cosmic Cowbell » Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:39 pm

The Box of Crazy

http://imgur.com/a/uCSg1#Bw2NgHm

Lots of buzz...so very interesting real or hoax.
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

Postby justdrew » Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:16 pm

Cosmic Cowbell » 04 Nov 2013 11:39 wrote:The Box of Crazy

http://imgur.com/a/uCSg1#Bw2NgHm

Lots of buzz...so very interesting real or hoax.


needs rescanned at higher resolution and posted in png not jpg.

kinda looks like some of the Mu structures/ships/mecha in Rahxephon.

but it's based on the visions fro the bible isnt it? wheels within wheels, etc.
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

Postby Hammer of Los » Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:47 am

...

The pages of text appear to have been produced using modern dtp processes.

Perhaps its part of an ARG.

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