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Thailand: Uprooting Wall Street's Proxy Regime

Postby conniption » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:13 am

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November 26, 2013 (Tony Cartalucci) - Unprecedented protests have taken to the streets in Bangkok, now for weeks, where at times, hundreds of thousands of protesters have appeared. Estimates range from 100-400 thousand people at peak points, making them the largest protests in recent Thai history.

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Images: Scenes taken from across Bangkok showing masses of people protesting the current government in Thailand. Unlike the government's mobs of "red shirts" centrally directed by Thaksin Shinawatra himself, these rallies are led by a myriad of leaders and interest groups, from unions to political parties and media personalities. The numbers now present dwarf any effort by Thaksin and his political machine to fill the streets with supporters. Currently, the "red shirts" have failed to fill even a quarter of a nearby stadium, after two earlier abortive attempts to raise a counter-rally.
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The protests aim at ousting the current government after it ignored a recent court ruling finding their attempts to rewrite the constitution illegal.

The current government of Thailand is being openly run by a convicted criminal, Thaksin Shinawatra, who is hiding abroad and running the country through his own sister, Yingluck Shinawatra and his vast political machine, the "Peua Thai Party" (PTP). PTP is augmented by street mobs donning bright red shirts, earning them the title, the "red shirts," as well as a myriad of foreign-funded NGOs and propaganda fronts.

While it would seem like an open and shut case, regarding the illegitimacy of the current government, Western nations have urged protesters to observe the "rule of law" and have condemned protesters taking over government ministry buildings. Why is the West now seemingly defending the current Thai government, after nearly 3 years of backing protests around the world against other governments it claimed were overtly corrupt and despotic?

It is very simple. Unlike in Egypt, Tunisia, Syria, Russia, Yemen, Libya, Malaysia, and elsewhere where the West has backed protests, the current government in Thailand is a creation of and a servant to the corporate financier interests of Wall Street and London. Regardless of the cartoonish nepotism of a nation run by the sister of a ousted dictator, media in the West continues to portray the current Thai government as legitimate, "elected," and "democratic." Thaksin Shinawatra's egregious crimes while in office are buried in articles, or worse yet, never mentioned at all.

Before the protests get any bigger, and the conflict more widespread, readers may want to ask and have answered the following questions... continued
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Re: Thailand: Uprooting Wall Street's Proxy Regime

Postby parel » Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:31 pm

Sorry, but Cartalucci's black and white view of the world is so irritating. He gets a lot right, but I don't proliferate his stuff as it usually tainted with simplifications like omitting the fact that Yingluck actually won the election in a landslide and that returning Thaksin to Thailand was part of the the Party's mandate at the time. This "you're with us or you support the N W O" type thinking of the Alex Jones stable makes one want to recoil.

Academics: Think beyond Thaksin Published: 25 Nov 2013 at 16.26Online news: Local News People should think beyond the good and evil of the current conflict and instead strive for structural change and to the polity of birthright and patronage, not just overthrowing the "Thaksin regime", speakers said at a political seminar.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/3 ... nd-thaksin

Thailand’s Opposition Democrats Go Rogue
Written by Our Correspondent
MON,25 NOVEMBER 2013


Here we go again
Thwarted at the ballot box, the Democrats set out to use the violent tactics of the Yellow Shirts.

http://www.asiasentinel.com/politics/th ... s-violent/

Thailand's War of Attrition
As the government and opposition forces take to the streets, an exiled billionaire waits in the wings, and battle lines are drawn.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2 ... _attrition
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Re: Thailand: Uprooting Wall Street's Proxy Regime

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:47 pm

parel » Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:31 am wrote:This "you're with us or you support the N W O" type thinking of the Alex Jones stable makes one want to recoil.


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Cheers. Especially dangerous as a Big Narrative because this line of thinking is always so smugly self-assured -- the sheeple are fooled by the NWO's machinations, but not us...

I don't especially relish being a bewildered & perpetually confused end consumer of a Total Bullshit media & cultural ecology. But I also don't want to lie to myself, you know, too often, about my lot in life.

My understanding of history is limited but the animal I've been getting know is chaotic & very nuanced. For instance, the idea that "Wall Street" would have just one bought proxy in a resource supply as big as Thailand seems to hugely underestimate the boogie man's competence, and proven M.O. to boot. Capitalism is very flexible.

That said, my own understanding of Thai politics is limited to McCoy / PD Scott / Mills writing about 60's - 80's drug networks.
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Postby parel » Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:56 pm

Thanks Wombaticus. I have been living here for three years and still find it hard to come to grips with the nuances, especially because the history is so rich and my understanding is somewhat limited. There was a big AIDS conference in Bangkok last week, but the planning for it over the last year was dominated by Thai colour politics. I tried to follow as best I could with limited understanding of thai language.

I have friends, both foreign and thai working in Thai NGOs who have been ordered to go out on marches at the direction of their bosses.
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Re: Thailand: Uprooting Wall Street's Proxy Regime

Postby conniption » Thu Nov 28, 2013 5:48 pm

parel wrote:Sorry, but Cartalucci's black and white view of the world is so irritating. He gets a lot right, but I don't proliferate his stuff...


No, I'm sorry. Didn't realize he was one-of-those.

If it's too much of an embarrassment, we can take this thread down and start again.


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Sunday, November 10, 2013

THAILAND’S PUNCH AND JUDY SHOW

by Philip J Cunningham

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(Illustration from Thai Rath, October 22, 2013)

It's Punch and Judy time!

UK Prime Minister David Cameron famously said “I’m fed up with the Punch and Judy politics,” but the tradition of comic bickering endures, in Britain and elsewhere, and Thailand’s peripatetic Thaksin is very much part of this tradition.

“Step right up, come one, come all. Welcome to Thailand’s very own Punch and Judy show.”

The puppet character named Punch is based on an ancient Italian prototype for the lord of misrule, Punchinello. The eager British adoption of Punch as one of its own dates to 1662 when the London writer and politician Samuel Pepys observed, with delight, a Covent Garden show put on by an itinerant Italian puppeteer. Punch has since been adopted and modified, freely interpreted in different ways in different times, but as a character he is consistently homely and corny, quick to resort to violence, and almost always preening and ridiculous. In one incarnation or another now, he’s been scheming and bamboozling and entertaining audiences for several centuries, falling in and out of favor like the tides of the sea.

While Thailand has a rich puppet tradition of its own, its modern politicians are globetrotters, prone to pick up foreign innovations and quick to borrow things from abroad. The fugitive former Premier Thaksin Shinawatra, who boasts opulent homes on three continents, including one in London, famously bought and sold Manchester City Football Club. Though Thaksin speaks only halting English and doesn’t seem to “get” the snooty, snobby British values of decorum, self-deprecation and gentlemanly demeanor, but he embodies something close to the hearts of the hoi polloi, something no less essential and quintessentially British, but in an older, earthier way.

He’s Thailand’s answer to Punch, the squawky-voiced, salt of the earth lord of misrule, the wooden-faced troublemaker, the pretender, the trickster who never leaves well enough alone. It’s his way or the highway; “That’s the way I do it” is the refrain.

When Thaksin was Prime Minister, his wife Pojamarn was his Judy, and while any wife is bound to suffer a certain amount of abuse at the hands of a partner with such a big head, Judy is a full-blooded character in her own right and, when the puppeteers are in the mood, she gives as good as she gets.

In traditional Punch and Judy shows, some of the slapstick humor is derived from the way the cackling Punch and Judy neglect their baby who is put through a sausage-machine of abuse by the haplessly distracted parents. The violent plotlines rightly give pause to the politically correct, but perhaps appeal to deeper, darker instincts, like Grimm’s fairy tales and ghost stories told late at night.

Another key character in the Punch and Judy show is the policeman, friend, confidante, joker and rogue, and it’s not much of a stretch to find high-level Thaksin sidekicks who fit the role of jester cop to a “T”

What really keeps the Punch and Judy show going, however, besides the obvious tomfoolery and malapropisms and bad music and the carnival barker who herds the audience into the show in the first place, is the nonstop action and constant distraction that makes an audience feel they’ve been taken for a ride, perchance gotten their money’s worth.

The Punch and Judy show is nothing if not a resilient tradition, but it would not be nearly as resilient as it is if it were not constantly transmogrifying and reinventing itself. It is still capable of bringing tears of joy, yawns of boredom and shudders of fear to kids of all ages, from nine to ninety two.

Since Thaksin divorced his wife and installed his sister Yingluck as his self-styled proxy and clone, the Thailand Punch and Judy show has undergone some changes in dramatis personae as well. The drama now puts the kid sister front and center for a whole new season of shenanigans, puns, pranks and punch lines.

There is much humor and a bit of stage magic in the way Punch gets the new Judy to do his bidding, as if by remote control. He pops up here, he drops in there, upstaging her, controlling her like a zombie, just when she starts to find her stride.

But there’s a time and place for slapstick (a word derived from the Punch and Judy tradition of characters whacking one another to shake, shock and amuse the audience) and there are times when the punch lines (another term derived from the Punch and Judy tradition) cease to amuse or entertain. When all the vain preening, artless antics, strutting, squawking madcap smacking gets to be a bit too much, the audience loses interest, the road show closes and the characters are retired until they can be brought back by popular demand.

So step right up, buy your tickets now, for the Punch and Judy show of Thailand.

The third act is in high dudgeon, it’s lively and spirited and full of fun and monkeyshines, but crowds are getting restless the show is rumored to be going bust, so run to see it now while you can.

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"Stay away! I'm just trying to reset things back to zero!" (from Komchadluk, Nation Group, November 1, 2013)



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Wednesday, November 27, 2013

WHEN GALAXIES COLLIDE, A NEW ERA IS BORN

by Philip J Cunningham

THAILAND IN FLUX


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(Cartoon about enjoying peaceful rally by cartoonists Bancha/Khamin, from Manager)

When galaxies collide, strange things happen. Collisions are not inevitable, there’s a lot of empty space in space, but gravitational waves and tidal forces have a way of reshaping two systems in proximity, creating new alignments and novel groupings. The violent rip and tear of colliding systems can create something new or precipitate sudden collapse.

Looking at the amorphous, color-tinted crowds assembling, expanding, contracting and regrouping in Bangkok from afar, across the chasm of cyberspace, across the Twitterverse, one is struck by the overall fluidity and order of the chaos and disorder. Thais on all sides of the color divide are skilled and resourceful protesters and it shows.

This time, it’s not the redshirts who have the upper hand. Instead an eclectic mix drawn from factions blue and yellow, multicolor and no color, have donned tricolor flags and whistles to make themselves seen and heard. To the predations and manipulations of a greedy governing clan they are saying, Stop! Time for a change! Enough is enough!

The hard fact about collective demonstrating is that it is binary by nature; either you are with the crowd or you are not. As part of a crowd, you inevitably experience a loss of agency, like a free-standing star rotating around the black hole at the center of a galaxy.

In clusters of protest as in galaxies there are unwritten physical rules of attraction and repulsion that create order and alignment out of chaos, leaders can be found at the gravitational center, followers in the tails and spiral arms.

Crowds have a way of self-policing, sometimes too harshly, sometimes not enough. Paradoxically, being bound by the unwritten rules of the crowd creates a sense of empowerment that makes it easier to break conventional rules; it’s easier to challenge a police line or takeover a public location when those around you are breaking the same rules at the same time.

Therein lies opportunity for transformative events, therein also lays the danger of otherwise decent people being egged on to do things one knows to be wrong. Self-appointed crowd leaders must keep an ear to the ground even as they reach for the sky. They need to set the tone by humble example, keeping calm and on message. Just as hate speech begets hate speech, non-violence begets non-violence, and small acts of kindness and generosity encourage more of the same.

There’s a time to hold, a time to fold. Cues to action and inaction simmer and circulate through a crowd, nonverbal cues set the mood and keep it cooperative and collective. There’s great strength in unity, until self-preservation comes to the fore, then all bets are off. To walk when others run or run when others walk can rip a crowd apart; patience, harmony and forbearance are key.

People power is powerful because numbers are a force multiplier; citizens who gather in large numbers are vulnerable, yet hard to move, hard to ignore, and hard to predict.

Often big crowds are a harbinger of a paradigm shift, a new galactic alignment coming into being.

Thai democracy has long been in crisis because it consistently produces undemocratic results and results in an illiberal consolidation of power. The surreptitious four AM attempt by a partisan faction in parliament to impose an dubious amnesty bill on an unsuspecting public earlier this month is just one example of many. The apparent mastery of democratic form has not been matched by statesmanship that is democratic in spirit.

Surely there is something wrong with a system that allows an ambitious fugitive in Dubai to be the puppet master of parliament, the “remote control” of the prime minister while his clan is the beneficiary of rampant corruption.

Greedy, outsized schemes, whether it be hiking up the price of rice to unsupportable levels to reward regional allies, or unnecessary big-ticket items like high speed trains from China, a cash cow for those who adept at corruption by percentages, only burdens the Thai populace with debt, while increasing indebtedness to him and his corporate cronies.

Thailand is at a turning point, does it want to be truly democratic or not?

To the inevitable cry, if you don’t like the government you can vote them out, I say, nice textbook answer, but things don’t always work out that way. Tell that to the frightened and confused Germans of the 1930’s, tell that to the exploited and oppressed Filipinos of the 1970’s, tell that to broken-hearted Americans frustrated with eight years of George W Bush and the war party, who then took part in a once-in-four-years ritual at the polls to chose between Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum, with the result that the new man, as different as he appeared to be at first glance, from both his rivals and his predecessors, turned out to push the same policies, only more so, with a continuation of war, a continued reverence for big corporations and a continued servility to Pentagon and powers that be.

What has been happening on the streets of Bangkok is a necessary venting of pent up frustration, an active expression of democratic yearning, an assertion of minority speech coupled the right of assembly. The non-violent guerilla style tactics of taking temporary control of public property recalls the Occupy protests in the US; the spirit of Zucotti Park is alive at Soi Aree today. The classic marches on Ratchdomnern and other iconic centers draws on the heritage the Bangkok demonstrations of the 1970’s, Black May and the mass mobilizations of recent years.

It takes far more courage and commitment to take to the streets and sit-in at a public place under constant threat of harassment and crackdown than it does to drop a ballot in a box. These huge popular demonstrations are a blunt expression of democracy in action, a wishful manifestation of rule of the people by the people.

There is no saying where the current demonstrations will end, or what wrong turns Suthep and his comrades might take, or when tragedy might befall unlucky people in the wrong place at the wrong time when the inevitable crackdown and Thermidor sets in. But the people out there putting their lives on the line are worth listening to, because they are saying things that would otherwise find scant expression in a system dominated by the ruling party.

It’s the voice of the disenfranchised opposition, speaking out, shouting out, trying to alter the fate of a nation that they see as being on a path to ruin. before they lose their rights altogether. They are taking great personal risks and putting up with considerable discomfort to stop the runaway train of unchecked greed and coordinated power grab. They want their country back, they want fair play, they want to live in dignity, not debt.
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Re: Thailand: Uprooting Wall Street's Proxy Regime

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:32 pm

conniption » Thu Nov 28, 2013 4:48 pm wrote:
If it's too much of an embarrassment, we can take this thread down and start again.


Quite the contrary, I think the RI synthesis is a valuable thing. Material gets brought here and dissected in unexpected ways; we all get to learn from that. I'm digging it so far.
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Postby conniption » Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:57 am

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Wednesday, December 4, 2013

THAILAND'S YEAR OF LIVING DANGEROUSLY
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A protester wearing a Guy Fawkes mask marches on a main road during an anti-Thaksin demonstration at a shopping centre last month. (photo credit EPA/Narong Sangnak)

"The Year of Living Dangerously" (Bangkok Post, July 17, 2013)

Philip J Cunningam


Thailand is one of the world's top tourist destinations, and this success couldn't have come at a worse time, not because the country hasn’t earned it, and not because it isn’t a fun place to visit, but because Thai society is on the brink, entering its year of living dangerously. To the background drumbeat of mounting political pressures, there are endless attractions and distractions and myriad, shimmering sights to see. The food is delicious, the music swings, service is supreme and there are serene temples, street snacks and tempting nightlife. Even the egotistical strutting of local politicos, and the consumerist tail-dancing of hi-so snobs can be viewed as background color for sojourners soaking up the sun and fun and non-stop folly in the kaleidoscopic tropical wonderland.
Unfortunately for tourists, Thailand is not a mind-bending fantasy, but a real, fractured country in crisis, teetering on the edge of a political abyss, facing imminent political implosion. The record-breaking twenty million pleasure-seeking foreign arrivals may suddenly discover that a funland lurching towards civil war in fits and starts is no holiday bargain. Crime against tourists appear to be on the upswing, and while there is no neat correlation between rape, rip-offs, murder and the political descent into madness, the risk of tourists becoming collateral damage is a real one.
Recent volatile events in Cairo are being monitored closely in Bangkok because there are haunting political parallels. Thailand has more experience with electoral democracy, but it also has more experience with coups. Both Egypt and Thailand have been major recipients of US military aid, and each has duly attempted to emulate American-mandated democratic trappings. This has led to the creation of formidable political machines that win at the polls only to gobble up power, cripple the opposition and hoard the ill-begotten goods as ruthlessly as any strong-arm patron would.

In Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood abused a broad electoral mandate, allowing the economy to crumble and crime to soar while trying to cow the courts in the direction of Sharia law, while in Thailand, valuable time has been wasted on schemes designed to pave the way for Thaksin’s return with a get-out-of-jail-free card, distracting the nation’s law-makers from tackling more pressing problems of poverty, crime, corruption and the “fire-in-the-south” communal violence that has claimed almost 5,000 lives.

The ill-conceived amnesty bills range from the anarchic --letting every violent offender since 2006 off the hook-- to the ironic, such as a proposal by coup-maker Sonthi Bunyaratglin to forgive and forget “political” offences.

Now out of power, under an administration where the political opposition is not given its due as part of the game, a very vulnerable Abhisit has been hit with spurious murder charges by PM Yingluck’s Ministry of Justice. Meanwhile, there’s been enough behind-the-scenes-scheming to make Machiavelli blush, a sample of which has emerged in the form of an audio tape documenting Thaksin’s attempts to wheel and deal with the military.

But that’s not all. Former Prime Minister Abhisit recently revealed that he has been offered a deal by an unnamed nemesis, the gist of which was to approve the pro-Thaksin amnesty bill if he wanted capital charges dropped against himself.

So, say what one might about Abhisit’s privileged childhood spent mostly in England, or the disadvantages of behaving like a gentleman when inside the ruthless ring of political combat, it is the rare man who calmly faces legal charges that could result in his execution. Unlike Thaksin, who fled the country in 2008, using a short, court-approved trip to the Beijing Olympics as a pretext to escape justice for economic crimes, Abhisit is willing to face grave, life-and-death charges against him in court and in country.

To those aligned with the Shinawatra bandwagon, Abhisit’s stubborn courage makes him the anti-Thaksin. He was inexplicably portrayed as a ghoulish, long-fanged, bloodthirsty, Dracula by partisan propagandists well before the crackdown in 2011, but that was trash talk and street theatre. From the very outset, pro-Thaksin agitators revealed their darkest desires in a self-fulfilling prophecy of bloody chaos by pouring buckets of donated blood on the gate of Abhisit's home. And it was in keeping with the same desperate, apocalyptic agenda that Thaksin’s negotiators courted a crackdown by refusing a fair and reasonable agreement to hold new elections within six months.

A terrible bloodbath followed on May 19, 2011. There is no disputing the dreadful violence, much of it committed in the course of a clumsy military crackdown, but there were also rogue snipers, police asleep on the job and partisan men in black running interference; factors which made the military dispersal of the crowd at Rajprasong an unmitigated disaster for all sides.

And yet, if the opportunistic deals with the military and the shameless horse-trading that Abhisit recently alluded to are for real, it just goes to show that the Shinawatra don did not have any skin in the game, and can conveniently distance himself from the bloody battles he praised so highly from the sidelines.

To such a leader there are no permanent friends or enemies, nor any concept of impartial justice or lasting loyalty to the foot-soldiers fallen at the barricades, just opportunism at each and every turn.

What this potent political mix means for holiday-goers soaking up the sun, dancing in the moonlight and cooling in crystalline swimming pools is uncertain, but if the restless Thaksin can’t overcome his heartless lust for power, Thailand loses, and all bets are off.

Millions of visitors may find themselves in unexpected jeopardy, akin to Mel Gibson and Sigourney Weaver in Peter Weir’s “The Year of Living Dangerously,” set in Indonesia on the eve of social breakdown. Even the most cosmopolitan and street-wise traveler is at risk when it comes to dealing with the unseen political riptides that deliver periodic terror to the shores of what otherwise may seem a bountiful, steamy tropical paradise.

If the most divisive figure in modern times orchestrates a return to Thailand, by hook or by crook, coups and chaos will follow, and tourists won’t be able get to the airport fast enough.


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Thursday, December 5, 2013

SUTHEP THROWS DOWN THE GAUNTLET
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Wednesday, December 11, 2013

STUDENTS HOLD THE KEY TO THE COUNTRY'S FUTURE

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Re: Thailand: Uprooting Wall Street's Proxy Regime

Postby parel » Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:13 am

Conniption: No it's not an embarrassment. Cartalucci is well respected by some folks I really admire especially in relation to Syria and I sort of get irritated by it, but they keep referring to him. Often Alex Jones is the first one to break a story. Cartalucci is onto deep state sniffings pretty early too. I just don't agree with all his conclusions.

I disagree with his assertion that 1/ Yingluck was not democratically elected and that the red shirts are a 2/ "regime" (they are a movement) & "government hired thugs". Last weekend the red shirts came to Bangkok to support the government and the leaders sent them home after two days because there were three deaths. All reds. The govt. has control of the police but not the military. Cartalucci's revolutionesque scenario does not account for what the Yellow Shirts are in the streets asking for - at one time last weekend, they called for an absolute monarchy. But the "council of good men" is currently the favoured option. Whatever. Yingluck has dissolved parliament and is now running a caretaker government. Elections on Feb 2, the king has signed the decree. Elections will show that the overwhelming majority of people (red shirts: provincial people, farmers, poor people) will vote for Phuea Tha party again. Yes, Cartalucci is right, that Thaksin is backed by Wall Street and is far from squeaky clean. But there's another player in the game that seems to get a free pass. Is Cartalucci IN Thailand, because if so he cannot be a credible source as we are forbidden by law to talk about that OTHER rich family that will be installed if ...well you know. He never talks about ELVIS.

Anyway, yellow are still marching but on a much reduced numbers but with some famous "HiSo" (Hi Society = rich Bangkokians) people out front on bulldozers and shit. That's really what this is about. Siamese, most of whom live in Bangkok and are middle class vs Northerners, which is what the Shinawatras are, from Issan.

Two days ago, Suthep called for the Shinatwatra CLAN to be targetted, not just the family.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/learning/lea ... rom-suthep

But the military brass are not biting:
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/3 ... uff-suthep

This is a good sign and maybe hostilities will end soon.

ETA today's news:

Well, they got their meeting, but the top cop can't go because he would be bound by law to arrest Suthep for insurrection and he doesn't want to make things worse. \<] .
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/3 ... ing-suthep
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Re: Thailand: Uprooting Wall Street's Proxy Regime

Postby parel » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:38 am

I knew I couldn't have been the only one who was so sick of Cartalucci, darling of the radical left .... what a joy it was to find these articles today.

Tony Cartalucci Parroting IMF Talking Points in Favor of Undemocratic Color Revolution
Posted on December 12, 2013 by willyloman
by Scott Creighton

Tony Cartalucci’s credibility is done. He’s working directly for the IMF parroting their claims about Thailand’s rice subsidy program which keeps global agribusiness from harvesting the agricultural base of Thailand just like they did in Mexico and just like they did in Haiti.
The IMF has demanded this program is halted in order to benefit global markets and financial interests and the current government has declined their “valuable” assistance. That was all in mid-November, right as the color revolution started up.

“Tony Cartalucci” (not his real name) has used his Twitter account to start openly attacking the rice subsidies program. He recently called on the military to overthrow the country and install an unelected body of technocrats to rule. The timing of the IMF report and more importantly the current government’s refusal to implement their recommendations coincides perfectly with the start of the current color revolution in Thailand.
So the current government rejects the IMF plan while “Tony Cartalucci” is doing his best to help them implement it. Any questions?
It should also be noted that Suthep Thaugsuban, the self appointed leader of the current color revolution, was caught up in a land reform scandal back in 1995 where he handed over huge tracks of land to 11 of the wealthiest families in Thailand.

I wrote yesterday that this color revolution was all about finding a way to implement the IMF plan in Thailand and that “Tony Cartalucci” was backing it. Guess I called that one right.


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The Color Revolution in Thailand: Taking Apart Cartalucci’s Pro-Regime Change Propaganda
Posted on December 8, 2013 by willyloman
by Scott Creighton
“Thailand’s political conflict broadly pits a Bangkok-based middle class and royalist elite backed by the military against rural and working-class voters loyal to Thaksin.’ South China Morning Post

“Judgement Day” approaches as tomorrow’s last ditch regime change effort, a march to the government headquarters, promises to be a desperate repeat of that now famous march in Venezuela, with former truth-teller Tony Cartalucci leading the charge.

What is really happening in Thailand? Is it a grass roots up-swell of democracy as people like Tony Cartalucci would have you believe; “the people” fighting against a corrupt government “backed by outside forces”. Or is it nothing more than yet another color revolution sponsored by the international financial class supported within Thailand by greedy oligarchs, the power hungry military monarchists and the petty bourgeoisie Business Class of the civilian population who want to exploit an opportunity to do away with the popular elected government so they can make more profits off the backs of their workers?

Color revolutions only work if they are able to generate a sense of legitimacy in the international community in general. And key to doing that is keeping the alternative journalists from doing too much damage to your efforts.

Take for instance Libya as an example.

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Re: Thailand: Uprooting Wall Street's Proxy Regime

Postby conniption » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:19 am

parel » Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:38 am wrote:I knew I couldn't have been the only one who was so sick of Cartalucci, darling of the radical left .... what a joy it was to find these articles today.

Tony Cartalucci Parroting IMF Talking Points in Favor of Undemocratic Color Revolution
Posted on December 12, 2013 by willyloman
by Scott Creighton

Tony Cartalucci’s credibility is done. He’s working directly for the IMF parroting their claims about Thailand’s rice subsidy program which keeps global agribusiness from harvesting the agricultural base of Thailand just like they did in Mexico and just like they did in Haiti.
The IMF has demanded this program is halted in order to benefit global markets and financial interests and the current government has declined their “valuable” assistance. That was all in mid-November, right as the color revolution started up.

“Tony Cartalucci” (not his real name) has used his Twitter account to start openly attacking the rice subsidies program. He recently called on the military to overthrow the country and install an unelected body of technocrats to rule. The timing of the IMF report and more importantly the current government’s refusal to implement their recommendations coincides perfectly with the start of the current color revolution in Thailand.
So the current government rejects the IMF plan while “Tony Cartalucci” is doing his best to help them implement it. Any questions?
It should also be noted that Suthep Thaugsuban, the self appointed leader of the current color revolution, was caught up in a land reform scandal back in 1995 where he handed over huge tracks of land to 11 of the wealthiest families in Thailand.

I wrote yesterday that this color revolution was all about finding a way to implement the IMF plan in Thailand and that “Tony Cartalucci” was backing it. Guess I called that one right.


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The Color Revolution in Thailand: Taking Apart Cartalucci’s Pro-Regime Change Propaganda
Posted on December 8, 2013 by willyloman
by Scott Creighton
“Thailand’s political conflict broadly pits a Bangkok-based middle class and royalist elite backed by the military against rural and working-class voters loyal to Thaksin.’ South China Morning Post

“Judgement Day” approaches as tomorrow’s last ditch regime change effort, a march to the government headquarters, promises to be a desperate repeat of that now famous march in Venezuela, with former truth-teller Tony Cartalucci leading the charge.

What is really happening in Thailand? Is it a grass roots up-swell of democracy as people like Tony Cartalucci would have you believe; “the people” fighting against a corrupt government “backed by outside forces”. Or is it nothing more than yet another color revolution sponsored by the international financial class supported within Thailand by greedy oligarchs, the power hungry military monarchists and the petty bourgeoisie Business Class of the civilian population who want to exploit an opportunity to do away with the popular elected government so they can make more profits off the backs of their workers?

Color revolutions only work if they are able to generate a sense of legitimacy in the international community in general. And key to doing that is keeping the alternative journalists from doing too much damage to your efforts.

Take for instance Libya as an example.

more at link


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Seems as if Tony and Scott are having it out in the comment section following the article you linked to .


5 of 18 comments:
Sam Muhho (@GlobalistWatch1), on December 10, 2013 at 12:31 am said:

Hmmm…interesting debate. I admit that I’m quite a devoted fan of Tony Cartalucci and have supported his work in the past. I have used it as the foundation for my own work. I am open to alternate interpretations about what is occurring in Thailand but I presently side with Tony as I’m convinced of the compromised role Thaksin is serving as a geopolitical asset of western hegemony in Southeast Asia. Wasn’t it Hiliary Clinton who said, “it is in the national security and political interest of the United States to have this government succeed.”

Here is my perspective on Thaksin written a couple of weeks before the protests where I compare him geopolitically to Thaksin and his role in perpetuating western corporate-financier hegemony in Thailand in the first part of this article: http://www.globalresearch.ca/high-finan ... er/5356906

If Thaksin is so progressive, why did he privatize Thailand’s oil and sell it off to western interests?:http://altthainews.blogspot.com/2013/11/thailand-protesters-want-oil-back-for.html

Why did he try to sell off Thailand’s political and economic sovereignty via a US-Thailand FTA in 2004 which led to his plummeting popularity?: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/AZI403A.html

I think you misrepresent the nature of the current protesters which represent a polyglot segment of Thai society fed up with Thaksin and includes real leftist groups and workers’ unions:http://altthainews.blogspot.com/2013/12/thailand-who-are-anti-regime-protesters.html?utm_source=BP_recent

Do I think the Thai opposition is more nuanced than Tony elaborates at times (considering how many of Thaksin’s opponents as I have found in my research including prominent members of the military and Surin Pitsuwan of the Democratic Party)? Yes. But Thaksin is a criminal and western puppet whose crimes against Thai sovereignty must be brought to justice?

Do I agree with Tony on Egypt? No. Tony has fallaciously fallen for the coup deception which was an attempt to compartmentalize western imperialist aggression against Egypt and siphon off growing discontent with the proxy-Brotherhood into an equally compromised government. It is what Tony calls out Israel and the US in doing with regards to creating a geopolitical deception with regards to an Israeli strike on Iran that would give the US plausible deniability as he points out “Which Path to Persia?” outlines. I wish he could see the same about Egypt which maintains plausible deniability for the west aiding a terrorist proxy used to perpetuate crimes against Syria. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtImFA3hso8

And this: http://www.globalresearch.ca/was-washin ... at/5341671

And this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFzN3qlZbBg

I hope Tony responds to my points on Egypt as I believe he is greatly wrong on that. Even Pepe Escobar has called out the US-backed military for its barbarism: http://rt.com/op-edge/egypt-protests-te ... rhood-526/



willyloman, on December 10, 2013 at 12:55 am said:

if you would, read this…

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2013/12 ... evolution/

I’ll get back to you tomorrow on your comment and those articles you wrote. But I do want to say this.

You know, we have a kind of a dictator right here in the states. he’s a war criminal and a liar. he’s a servant to the global financial interests and every day I help expose his efforts to ramrod a corporatist fascist state down our throats. and everyday I help expose the crimes he commits overseas and the brutal dictators he tries to impose on other countries.

in short, everyday I write about what is more commonly known as the war on democracy or the War OF Terror.

I did the same during the rule of his predecessor.

But at no time did I openly call for the use of the military to shut down protests, either against Bush or Obama. At no time did I call for the use of the military to shut down functions in support of either of them. At no time did I think it was a good idea for the Pentagon to rampage through the streets of the United States taking over as an illegal junta and ruling via an unelected body of technocrats.

And I think it’s safe to say that no matter what you might THINK you know Thaksin did, the REALITY is, it wasn’t worse than what either of the presidents of the U.S. have done. And Bush stole two elections too boot.

Now, that said, this is exactly what Cartalucci is throwing his support behind. he published that article last night on Global Research saying exactly that. He wanted the military to take over and install an unelected body to rule Thailand. and as he put it, it would be nice if they did it with as little force as needed, BUT, they should go all out if need be.

Now, Tony might be some kind of hero journalist to you, but to me, for what some accuse Thaksin of, considering the fact that he isn’t even in Thailand these days, that seems a little drastic don’t you think? well, if you look back at the history of the country it’s actually par for the course. A populist leader is elected, the elites and the monarchy get pissy, they get the military to take over and install a dictator after shutting down freedoms and declaring a state of emergency, and in the end, when they think they control the population enough, they try having another election and the whole thing happens again.

it’s a pattern that isn’t hard to see.

What is also not hard to see is the fact that people who want to support this current color revolution always do so by demonizing a leader who has been out of power since 2006. Yes, the oligarchs don’t want him to return just like they didn’t want Aristide to return to Haiti. Just like they don’t want Morsi to return to Egypt. just like they don’t want one of Gaddafi’s kids running around Libya. But that is their Entire argument for turning the military against it’s own people?

you should think about that. think hard about that. Because your friend Cartalucci was also saying other countries should feel free to do the same thing (Venezuela? Iran? North Korea? Russia? the U.S.?)

it should take a great deal, a lot more than someone being ACCUSED of corruption or someone insinuating someone else has influence over the leader of a country, to call for the revocation of democracy. that’s what Cartalucci is calling for. and to me, that is sickening. it’s one thing for him to dismiss a previous revolution as he has in Tunisia and Egypt and Yemen… but to actually call for negating democracy in a country? That’s a big step down the fascist line. I don’t care how you package it, that’s fascism that Tony is screeching for. and it’s pretty sick in my opinion.


Land Destroyer (@LandDestroyer), on December 10, 2013 at 2:53 am said:

Scott – I suspect you are either mentally ill, or a paid liar. My suspicion that you are a paid liar stems from the fact that everything you say about Thailand sounds almost verbatim taken from Robert Amsterdam’s website – Amsterdam being Thaksin Shinawatra’s paid lobbyist, and arch-Wall Street propagandist.

http://robertamsterdam.com/thailand/

You go ahead and try to explain to us why we should believe anything you’ve said. You’ve provided no evidence, just other links of other people’s opinions and hearsay. You’ve dismissed signed documents as “vague,” and continue bleating the Robert Amsterdam mantra of Thaksin’s popularity, his populism, his “democratic” mandate to be dictator-for-life of Thailand. Your parallels between Libya and Thailand are so ridiculous – especially when you consider it was THAKSIN’S movement that praised the subversion of Libya and threatened to do the same in Thailand!

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Next you will say, those magazines when you scroll down, have nothing to do with Thaksin. Well, they are directly run by him and his political machine, and in one picture on the back of the magazine, is a picture of Thaksin cradling a whole year’s volume in his arms, giving his glowing approval.

So here is Scott, parroting Wall Street’s Robert Amsterdam and supporting Thaksin Shinawatra, another cog in the fake “Arab Spring” machine.

I know you like socialism Scott, but just like America’s system has been hijacked, so can socialism. Failing to recognize and point out its exploitation and abuse, doesn’t protect socialism, it just makes it look even worse to those who already have an aversion to it.



Land Destroyer (@LandDestroyer), on December 10, 2013 at 3:15 am said:

Finally – you claim the Thai army killed protesters in 2006-2010 “left and right” for “daring” to challenge them.

First, it’s 2009-2010 – so you know so little you can’t even get the year right. They were back-to-back protests timed during the down time between rice growing seasons – specifically to bus in astroturf to line the protests.

Second, in 2009, the only two deaths were shopkeepers KILLED BY THAKSIN’S RED SHIRTS, for “daring” to try and stop them from looting their storefronts.

In 2010, by all accounts, including the “red shirt” spokesman Sean Boonpracong himself, first blood was drawn by Thaksin’s “red shirts” on April 10, 2010, where they used M16s, AK47s, M79s, and M67 grenades to kill 6 soldiers including the colonel commanding the anti-riot troops.

Sean Boonpracong would admit to Reuters:

“The red shirts’ international spokesman, Sean Boonpracong, told Reuters elements of the army are with their movement. They are known as “watermelons” — green on the outside but red in the middle — and they include the shadowy, black-clad men with military weapons that were seen at the April 10th crackdown.”

http://in.mobile.reuters.com/article/wo ... 1220100421

Of the 90 that were killed, 8 were soldiers and police, at least 2 were “red shirts” who died of smoke inhalation while looting buildings they themselves set ablaze, and the rest were killed in crossfire during documented gun battles in the streets. We’ll never know who killed who, because the militants Thaksin’s spokesman admitted they fielded, intentionally carried weapons firing 5.56mm rounds to make it look like the army was the one doing all the killing.

You clearly have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You are making half of what you say up, and basing the other half off of liars. THEY admitted they killed troops on the first night of bloodshed with highly trained, heavily armed militants you are claiming were government provocateurs. Maybe that could be a possibility if they themselves didn’t ADMIT they were their militants!

It’s not that you are stupid, Scott, you either are paid to not tell the truth, or you simply do not WANT to see the truth.

I guess I could go on and on discounting every newly invented lie you tell with hard facts. But at this point if people can’t figure out who is telling the truth based on facts, and who is peddling an insidious agenda for whatever reason, I don’t want them on my side anyway.



willyloman, on December 10, 2013 at 9:14 am said:

no, you go right ahead and keep on citing all that Reuters “evidence” you have that your boy didn’t use brutal tactics to crush the protests in Thailand. You’re doing a GREAT job. Honestly. I mean that. ಠ_ಠ

My “insidious agenda” of supporting democracy in Thailand and the upcoming elections on Feb. 1st.. real insidious. As opposed to your call for the military to take any means necessary to remove the elected prime minister and install an unelected cabal of technocrats to rule the country…. right… my “insidious agenda”

That’s funny isn’t it? I’m really supporting democracy and the will of the people in Thailand while you and yours PRETEND you are by calling everything you are doing a “people’s revolution” or a “people’s council”

man, you’re a joke aren’t you. Is this really the best you got? A typo of mine and Reuters? wow. No wonder Di$info Jone$ loves you so much much.

I’ll tell you what, I will admit this.. I was dead wrong when I put you in the same category as Lizzie Phelan. That’s for damn sure.


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Then, there are 24 more comments linked to this article at Before It's News, where they continue to go at each other.

The bickering back and forth between these two feels like theater to me, somehow. (like what goes on around here, from time to time.)

Consequently, I've lost a great deal of respect for both writers, and it's left me even more confused about the situation in Thailand.
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Re: Thailand: Uprooting Wall Street's Proxy Regime

Postby parel » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:25 am

some (rare) good analysis of the political situation in Thailand in Asian Correspondent today:

‘It will hurt either way’: Thai opposition still undecided on elections
By Saksith Saiyasombut & Siam Voices Dec 18, 2013 10:30AM UTC

Thailand opposition leader Abhisit Vejjajiva seen during anti-government protests last month. Pic: AP.

In Southeast Asian Buddhist mythology, the goddess that is known in Thailand as Phra Mae Thorani (พระแม่ธรณี) was called upon by the Bodhisattva to help him fend off the demon Māra, who tried to distract him from seeking enlightenment. According to the myth, Thorani then twisted her very long hair and out came an enormous torrent of water that washed away Māra and his army, clearing the way for the Bodhisattva to reach enlightenment and to become the Buddha.

Thorani’s image graces the seal of the opposition Democrat Party, which is currently at a crucial junction. The party is torn between entering the snap-elections on February 2, 2014 or boycotting them. The latter would show full support for the anti-government protesters who have paralyzed the country’s politics since early November and have increased the pressure on caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra to step down, while openly calling for the suspension of electoral democracy in order to “reform” Thailand. The protesters are led by former deputy prime minister and veteran Democrat Party bruiser – and now self-styled “people’s champion” – Suthep Thuagsuban, joined by many other recently resigned party executives, including the former finance minister Korn Chatikavananij.

The tensions have receded for now, though protesters – albeit in significantly lower numbers – are still roaming around Democracy Monument and Government House. Over the weekend, both the protesters and the government held public and private forums in order to win public support for either the “reform first” drive by the protesters or the February 2 elections set by the caretaker government.

The lines between the protest movement – calling themselves (somewhat ironically) the “People’s Democratic Reform Committee” (PDRC)* – and the Democrat Party are (intentionally) blurry, not only because the mobilization of the rallies had been rehearsed long ago, but also because of the regular involvement of Democrat Party figures. The party itself was meandering in recent weeks until its MPs decided to resign from parliament earlier this month, effectively forcing Prime Minister Yingluck to dissolve parliament and call for new elections – something that the protesters are uncompromisingly rejecting and instead lobbying (especially the military) for their undemocratic, appointed “People’s Assembly”.

Since Monday, the Democrat Party has been in meetings to determine what to do next as election day approaches. Apart from extending the numbers of executives to 35, the party also re-elected Abhisit Vejjajiva as its party leader.

One major casualty of the party meeting was Alongkorn Ponlaboot, until Tuesday deputy party leader before he was defeated by Satit Pitudecha by 63 to 30 per cent. An outspoken proponent for reform of the party, Alongkorn regularly insisted that the Democrats should stop blaming their electoral losses on “vote-buying, electoral fraud or populism” and instead “come up with better strategies” in order to eventually beat the ruling Pheu Thai Party. Alongkorn was also notably absent from the party’s meeting that resulted in the MPs’ mass resignation. After the vote, he simply tweeted “I lost” and asked the party in a following tweet to “continue to reform,” since this is “the only way to regain trust in the Democrat Party”.

This affirmation of Abhisit and the demotion of Alongkorn shows that Thailand’s main opposition party is unwilling to make big changes, let alone reform itself, in order to halt the ongoing streak of elections defeats since 1992. And it has also (as of writing) deferred the decision whether or not to run in the February 2 elections, facing the dilemma of being beaten at the polls again by Pheu Thai – but then being shunned by the protesters – or losing (even more) political credit with a boycott. A repeat of the 2006 snap-elections - when the Democrat Party along with other opposition parties staged a boycott that created a political deadlock and a subsequent vacuum that led to the military coup that ousted then-prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra – is not possible thanks to an amendment that does away with the 20 per cent requirement of the vote for a MP candidate in the third by-election (more background on that at Bangkok Pundit). Also, all other parties have not yet publicly considered an election boycott. It is reported that the newly-elected executive board will decide on the question this Saturday.

According to reports, the party is almost evenly split on the election question. Newly elected secretary-general Juti Krairiksh was quoted as saying that entering the contest would “kill” and a boycott “cripple” the party respectively (“ส่งก็ตายไม่ส่งก็พิการ”), to which Abhisit responded that “it will hurt either way” (“มองว่าเจ็บทุกทาง”), adding…

“(…) หากทำให้ชาติไปสู่สิ่งที่ดีกว่าเราก็ต้องยอม เพราะประเทศสำคัญกว่าพรรค (…) ไม่ส่งก็เสียระบบหรือไม่ สิ่งสำคัญที่สุดคือการปฏิรูปประเทศโดยรักษาประชาธิปไตยไว้ แม้จะเป็นโจทย์ยาก (…)”

“(…) if it makes the country better than us, we have to accept that because the country is more important than the party (…). Whether or not a boycott would damage the [democratic] system, the important thing is reform [before elections?] while maintaining democracy, no matter how problematic (…)”

“ปชป.ชี้ขาด 21 ธ.ค.ส่งเลือกตั้ง ‘มาร์ค’หนักใจส่ง-ไม่ส่งก็เจ็บ“, Thai Rath Online, December 17, 2013 (translation by me)

Until the registration of MP candidates opens next week, Thailand’s oldest existing opposition party has to decide whether it wants to be an enabler or an instigator: either the Democrat Party takes part in the February 2 elections, most likely lose against Pheu Thai (hopefully as graceful as possible), and maintain the shaky status quo or stage a boycott and completely lose any political legitimacy as a ‘hilariously misnamed’ husk of a party – and also comply with the PRDC’s anti-democratic stance and protest leader Suthep’s rabble-rousing and nightly delusions of grandeur, who has just announced yet another mass protest for Sunday.

Unlike the goddess Thorani, the Democrat Party did not manage to wash away the distractions in order to reform itself as a healthy democratic opposition. To adapt the motto in the party’s logo – the Pali proverb ”truth is indeed the undying word” (“สจฺจํ เว อมตา วาจา”) – it will have to face the consequences of its actions – no matter how much it will hurt.

*Sidenote: Interestingly, the PDRC’s English ‘translation’ doesn’t fully reflect the original Thai name: “People’s Committee for the Change Thailand’s to Democracy with the King as Head of State” (Thai abbreviation: “กปปส.”)


Red Shirt base supporters get sympathetic in depth coverage from the BBC here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25426248

So there's a youtube article linked in the above link, and you go there oh and look who the abusive comments are from. Look who the only comments are from! I also think "he" is more than one person because some days he churns out an enormous amount of words (yellow shirt propaganda) that it's a stretch to believe one person writes it all.


ps. yeah, the fight was good. I felt it was real, specially some of the comebacks from Scott like "I just happen to live in a another country where you are advocating for regime change". I mean, I hate that bastard so much for advocating what he is advocating under the guise of being "colour blind" when it comes to "colour revolutions". That's bullshit. He has chosen a side.
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Postby cptmarginal » Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:58 am

Thanks for this, parel. I had made a Thailand thread back in 2009, when the red shirt stuff was really kicking off, but didn't really know what was going on.

After seeing a few references to Navapol and Krating Daeng in some articles, this book turned up in a search. It looks pretty good:

http://books.google.com/books?id=nDspKD ... ng&f=false

Navapol was far more secretive and sinister. It was an ISOC operation authorized in 1974 by the former military intelligence chief General Wallop Rojanavisut, CIA associate Wattana Kiewimon, BPP chief General Suraphon, ISOC head Saiyudh Kerdphol, and former northern region army chief General Samyan Bhaetyakul. The name Navapol meant "nine strengths" or "power of the Ninth," suggesting the Chakri Ninth Reign. Citing the king's own worries, General Wallop said Navapol had been created "to build a Thai wall against the communists," who endangered Buddhism and the monarchy. He claimed that activist students received support from Pridi Bhanomyong, the KGB, the International Socialist Party, and the CPT.

At its highest level, Navapol was a sort of Masonic elite of men intellectually committed to the traditional construction of Thai culture and values. They came from the top echelons of the bureaucracy, the armed services, business, the sangha, and the palace. They were proud of their dedication and of not being part of the corrupt business-political establishment. One key nonmilitary figure was the supreme court judge Tanin Kraivixien, an ardent monarchist and anticommunist, and a friend of the king. At a lower level, Navapol built its membership from local businessmen and officials in the towns. They held anticommunist rallies to recruit members and money from others in the bourgeois strata. Some were elected to take part in secret units of saboteurs, provocateurs, and hit squads designed to terrorize the left.


Sounds awful familiar! It's almost as if one can ferret out the right-wing shadow behind the recent history of any nation just by searching for "country + anticommunist"

A Banned Book Challenges Saintly Image of Thai King

By Jane Perlez

Published: September 25, 2006

JAKARTA, Indonesia, Sept. 24 — When soldiers and tanks rolled onto the streets of Bangkok last week and the king appeared on television with the generals, it was not the first time Thailand’s wildly popular monarch had given his blessing to a military takeover.

A new and comprehensive history of the Thai modern monarchy, written by an American journalist, Paul M. Handley, and banned in Thailand, argues that in his 60-year reign King Bhumibol Adulyadej has generally exercised a preference for order over democracy.

In doing so, Mr. Handley said, the king has put the preservation of the institution of the monarchy ahead of a democratic Thailand.

The book, “The King Never Smiles,” presents a direct counterpoint to years of methodical royal image-making that projects a king beyond politics, a man of peace, good works and Buddhist humility. It also runs counter to how most Thais see their king, as a man of mystique and charisma but also as a bastion of Thailand’s moves to modernity.

The book’s publisher, Yale University Press, said it came under heavy pressure from the Thai government not to publish it.

The director of Yale University Press, John Donatich, said the pressure included a visit to New Haven by a delegation of Thai officials, including the cabinet secretary general, Bowornsak Uwanno, and the Thai ambassador to the United States, Virasakdi Futrakul.

Mr. Donatich said he ruled out canceling publication of the book, and copies are now on sale in Asian capitals and the United States. But he did agree, he said, to their request that publication be delayed until July, a month after the June 9 celebrations in Bangkok of King Bhumibol’s 60th anniversary on the throne and his 80th birthday.

“We didn’t want to be accused of exploiting the event,” Mr. Donatich said.

The televised coverage of the gala provided an unusual look at the court’s unyielding protocol that emphasizes a godly king above ordinary mortals. In one live segment, white-liveried attachés could be seen running ahead of the king to open an elevator door, and then lying prostrate on the floor as the king and his wife passed by.

[...]

A portion of a document from the Thai cabinet that appeared on a Thai Web site and appearing, by all accounts, to be authentic, listed the ways the Thais tried to prevent publication, and if it went ahead, how to block the book’s distribution in Thailand.

According to the document, the government contacted the American law firm LeBoeuf, Lamb, Greene and MacRae, which told it that publication would be impossible to stop on constitutional grounds. Such efforts would generate unwanted publicity, the lawyers advised.

The document said the authorities had banned the book in Thailand on the grounds that it was a threat to stability. It said Thai officials had contacted the Yale University president, Richard Levin, and had sought the help of former President George H. W. Bush, an alumnus of Yale.

For fans of royals as royals, Mr. Handley offers up plenty of what might be classified as high-class dish, like a recounting of the mystery surrounding the death of the king’s elder brother, Ananda, who was found in 1946 in his bed with a bullet through his head six months after being crowned king. (The official version at the time was that Ananda had accidentally killed himself.)

King Bhumibol was born in the United States, grew up in Switzerland and married the lithe, pretty Princess Sirikit, a favorite of the 1960’s jet set, who by the 1980’s had weathered into a much more fulsome version of a queen with her own court favorites, expensive tastes and pet charities.


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/25/world ... .html?_r=0

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Re: Thailand: Uprooting Wall Street's Proxy Regime

Postby parel » Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:25 pm

Yes. Its a highly illegal book and a highly illegal subject. The block on RollingStone.com was just lifted two years after being placed due to a review of said book.

Actually, nobody can report objectively from Thailand. Anybody who claims they can is not being entirely honest.
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Re: Thailand: Uprooting Wall Street's Proxy Regime

Postby parel » Sat Dec 21, 2013 1:09 pm

Mirroring the real but often blocked PPT

QUESTIONS FROM THE NEWS

December 20, 2013 · by Political prisoners of thailand ·

PPT has been busy in recent weeks and struggling to keep up with a large number of interesting and insightful newspaper reports on Thailand’s current political situation. Academics in the West have come up with accounts that consider that recent events are a struggle of liberalisms, the death throes of Thai paternalism and more. Some Thai academics have pointedly remarked that the struggle is against a political fascism.

As much as we’d like to, we can’t get to all of these views yet we are sure readers have seen them and don’t need our commentary to consider their flaws and contributions. We have to say that the liberalisms notion was a curve ball, and we don’t really get it, but the other perspectives seemed to offer some food for thought.

Rather than commentate, then, we want to ask some questions about items in the news of late.

Question 1: When a bunch of aged generals get together and talk of the “side of righteousness” should we take them seriously? After all, haven’t these military officers been responsible for thousands of political murders and for repressing democracy movements? Maybe the emphasis is not on righteousness but on right-wing extremism.

Question 2: When The Nation, in the same story, says the military reactionaries were joined by Prasong Soonsiri and describe him “a former member of the constitution drafting assembly,” should this newspaper be given a bollocking for outright bias, incompetence, stupidity or all three? After all, Prasong is another of the Dad’s Army of aged and disgruntled schemers who hate elections and democracy. As well as being one of the men behind Suthep Thaugsuban, Prasong has worked to bring down every single elected government since 2001. Indeed, he claims to have been involved with the planning of the 2006 coup.

Question 3: Should we believe the bosses at the Boonrawd Brewery when they distance themselves from the walking selfie, royalist and rightist Chitpas Bhirombhakdi? To be honest, we don’t know, but at least the bosses recognize that her Marie Antoinette-isms when damning every single rural voter as an idiot are damaging to the company. Santi Bhirombakdi made the excellent point that “the company is in debt to the customers…”. We doubt that a spoiled rich girl will listen to any kind of sensible discussion.

Question 4: How is it that the Election Commission can continue to ask for the election to be delayed? Their bleating seems designed to encourage Suthep’s anti-democrats to acts of sabotage against the election and the (un)Democrat Party to boycott. Their call seems unlawful. But that never seems to bother this lot.

Question 5: Has Bangkok Post op-ed writer Veera Prateepchaikul completely lost his marbles? His latest propaganda-piece-posing-as-an-op-ed actually suggests that readers should read rants by the most bizarre self-appointed commentators on the planet and take them seriously. This link is pure Sondhi Limthongkul and People’s Alliance for Democracy. For a while in 2011-12, PAD and ASTV were avid followers of Veera’s Tony Cartalucci. His blog has been Land Destroyer, which provides no information on funding, but as a reader at Prachatai pointed out at the time, it:

[l]inks to Infowars.com which is Alex Jones. Infowars.com accepts advertising from Midas Resources (http://www.midasresources.com/store/sto ... ecialOffer) which is “One of the world’s premiere precious metals firms, parent company of The Genesis Communications Network, proud sponsor of the Campaign For Liberty and creator of the Ron Paul Air Corps.”

The Ron Paul initiated Campaign for Liberty (http://www.campaignforliberty.com/about.php) draws inspiration from a range of conservatives and libertarians and localists. According to University of Georgia political scientist Keith Poole, Paul had the most conservative voting record of any member of Congress from 1937 to 2002 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul).

Midas Resources was founded by Ted Anderson. Ted Anderson and Alex Jones are collaborators, with Jones appearing on the Genesis Communications Network, where Anderson is the CEO (http://www.gcnlive.com/contact.php). It was established to promote the sale of precious metals (http://www.gcnlive.com/faq.php). Its front page advertisers include Christian holster sellers and a range of survival products (for surviving the coming global food crisis) along with Ron Paul sites and Russia Television/Russia Today. GCN has interviewed right-wing, anti-Semite Lyndon LaRouche (http://www.larouchepub.com/lar/2008/int ... nesis.html), seen as a political extremist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche). LaRouche also has a fan in another link at Land Destroyer in F.W. Engdahl, yet another conspiracy theorist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F._William_Engdahl), who believes in global cooling (not warming).

Jones and Anderson have promoted conspiracy rants by people associated with the extremist John Birch Society (http://mediamatters.org/blog/201101290003).

Companies linked in these groups, such as Free Speech Systems (http://freespeechsystems.com/) provide no links or information; certainly not practicing what they preach.

Land Destroyer links to a range of other conspiracy theory websites that never provide any details about funding. One of these is to the site of long-time conspiracy theorist Webster Tarpley who has a remarkable Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webster_Tarpley). Another is to anti-fluoride, anti-vaccination, Bin Laden is alive (Alex Jones too), and conspiracy theorist Jim Corr who is also on about the threat or One World Government (http://www.jimcorr.com/).

In the LaRouche Wikipedia page, in the section on “Selected Works,” it might be noted that LaRouche wrote a book with Uwe Von Parpart in 1970. Several sites note that he later worked at Asia Times and The Manager magazine owned by Sondhi Limthongkul. Interesting connections.

Question 6: Recalling that Veera’s op-ed is supposed to be a lecture on democracy but cites sources like Cartalucci, LaRouche and the John Birch Society should we consider Veera’s notions of democracy on a par with fascists, racists and mad conspiricists?


21 December 2013
Thai opposition to boycott 2 February elections


Thailand's main opposition Democrat Party has announced it will boycott snap elections set for 2 February.

Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva told a news conference it would not be fielding candidates, saying: "Thai politics is at a failed stage".

Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra called the election earlier this month in a bid to end weeks of mass protests.

The head of the Thai army has warned the country's political divisions could "trigger a civil war".

General Prayuth Chan-ocha has proposed a "people's assembly" - made up of civilians from both sides, not the leaders, to heal the divisions.

For the second time in a decade, Thailand's oldest political party is boycotting an election.

The Democrat Party's many critics accuse it of turning its back on democracy because it cannot win elections. It has lost the last five to parties led or funded by Thaksin Shinawatra.

This was a tough decision for the Democrats. For days the party was split over which way to go.

Many of its supporters and MPs have thrown their weight behind the street protest movement, led by ex-Democrat powerbroker Suthep Thaugsuban. They argued there was no point in competing in an electoral system where Mr Thaksin has built up such a loyal following among voters in the north and north-east.

But there are those in the party who see just as much risk in a boycott; a risk not only to their reputation - one government minister has already accused them of preparing the ground for a military coup, which happened after their last boycott in 2006 - but also to their very existence.

If the election goes ahead as scheduled on 2 February, the Democrat constituencies will eventually be occupied by other parties, with all the power and influence that goes with that, and the Democrats could fall apart.

But then, after so many defeats, there are some in the party who believe an entirely fresh start might actually be good for it.

The opposition-backed protests in Bangkok have caused Thailand's most serious political turmoil since 2010.

Ms Yingluck won the last elections in 2011, but protesters say her brother - the controversial ousted former leader Thaksin Shinawatra - remains in charge.

'Lost faith'
At his news conference, Mr Abhisit told reporters his party had agreed it would not field candidates in the snap elections.

"The Thai people have lost their faith in the democratic system," he said.

The prime minister dissolved parliament and called the election on 9 December in a bid, she said, to avoid violence on the streets and "to give back the power to the Thai people".

Her Pheu Thai party has a majority in parliament, and draws significant support from Thailand's rural areas. It is seen as well-placed to win February's election.

General Prayuth Chan-ocha said he was deeply concerned by the latest crisis, with divisions not just in Bangkok but across the whole country.

"The situation could trigger a civil war," he told the Bangkok Post.

Setting out his vision of a "people's assembly", he said it should be made up of people from both sides of the political divide - known as the "red shirts", those who support Thaksin Shinawatra, and the "yellow shirts", those who oppose him.

"It must be from a neutral group and comprise non-core representatives of all colours, and all colour leaders must be excluded," he said.

He did not give details on how or when the assembly would be set up, but said any proposal "must come from a public consensus and the public must brainstorm how to reach that consensus".

He stressed his grouping would be different to the "people's council" proposed by the opposition.

Thailand's troubles

Sept 2006: Army overthrows government of Thaksin Shinawatra, rewrites constitution
Dec 2007: Pro-Thaksin People Power Party wins most votes in election
Aug 2008: Mr Thaksin flees into self-imposed exile before end of corruption trial
Dec 2008: Mass yellow-shirt protests paralyse Bangkok; Constitutional Court bans People Power Party; Abhisit Vejjajiva comes to power
Mar-May 2010: Thousands of pro-Thaksin red shirts occupy parts of Bangkok; eventually cleared by army; dozens killed
July 2011: Yingluck Shinawatra leads Pheu Thai party to general election win
Nov 2013: Anti-government protesters begin street demonstrations
Dec 2013: Opposition MPs resign; Ms Yingluck calls elections
"The people's assembly must not be organised or sponsored by any conflicting group, as it would not be accepted by the other side," he said.

His comments came after a defence council meeting on Friday to discuss the 2 February election.

Defence spokesman Col Thanatip Sawangsaeng said the army "is ready to support the Election Commission in organising the elections when asked".

But a military source has told the BBC that privately the army believes it would be better for the election to be delayed - as sought by the opposition parties.

Protests began nearly a month ago after Thailand's lower house passed a controversial amnesty bill, which critics said could allow Thaksin Shinawatra to return without serving time in jail.

Mr Thaksin is currently in self-imposed exile after he was overthrown in a military army coup in 2006 and convicted of corruption.

The protesters say the former prime minister remains the power behind the ruling Pheu Thai party, and accuse it of using public funds irresponsibly to secure votes.
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Postby parel » Sat Dec 21, 2013 1:19 pm

Oh yeah, this is also a relevant piece of information too. This happened the day after Yingluck dissolved parliament.

Former Thai Premier Abhisit Formally Indicted on Murder Charges

Protest Leader Suthep Seeks to Delay His Court Appearance

By WARANGKANA CHOMCHUEN And WILAWAN WATCHARASAKWET CONNECT
Updated Dec. 12, 2013 4:12 a.m. ET
BANGKOK—Thailand's former Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva was formally indicted Thursday on murder charges over a military crackdown on street protests in 2010 that left scores dead.

The indictment comes amid the biggest political upheaval in the country since the 2010 protests and risks further inflaming tensions. Antigovernment protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban, who served as Mr. Abhisit's deputy at the time, faces similar charges.

Mr. Suthep was due to appear for the indictment session Thursday, but he didn't show up. A public prosecutor told reporters that Mr. Suthep's lawyer had asked the court to postpone Mr. Suthep's appearance to mid-January, which prosecutors were considering. Both men deny the charges against them.

After the indictment, Thailand's Criminal Court granted bail to Mr. Abhisit, leader of the main opposition Democrat Party, and scheduled an inquest on March 24 next year. Mr. Abhisit left the court without offering comment. His lawyer reiterated that Mr. Abhisit denies the charges.

A group of relatives of the fallen protesters were in court to object to Mr. Abhisit's request for bail.

"I want them both in jail," said Sunanta Preechawet, 62 years old, whose younger brother was killed in a clash in April 2010. "The vengeance and the pain have been eating my heart."

The Office of the Attorney General had charged Messrs. Abhisit and Suthep with murder in October, alleging that the two men authorized the use of live ammunition and weapons in dispersing "Red Shirt" protesters, mostly grass-roots supporters of former leader Thaksin Shinawatra, who himself was ousted by a military coup in 2006. The Thai Parliament granted Messrs. Abhisit and Suthep immunity from court proceedings while it was in session, but the parliamentary session ended in late November. Thursday was the first time the men had to appear in court since the charges were filed.

A decade and a half after Thaksin Shinawatra founded his 'Thais Love Thais' party, antagonism prevails.

The Red Shirt protesters demonstrated in Bangkok in 2010 for nine weeks and demanded that Mr. Abhisit call a fresh election. Named for their red attire, the protesters accused Mr. Abhisit of gaining power by colluding with the military to negotiate with smaller parties to form a parliamentary coalition.

About 90 people, mostly protesters, were killed in clashes with security forces across Bangkok. Scores more were injured.

The Criminal Court on Thursday was under tight security in anticipation of demonstrations by Mr. Abhisit's supporters and opponents. As Mr. Abhisit arrived, relatives of the Red Shirts shouted "murderer" at him.

The indictment in October was seen by many as a political tactic to pressure the Democrat Party to support an amnesty bill, proposed by the ruling Pheu Thai Party of Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra. The bill would have exonerated various people—including Messrs. Abhisit and Suthep and Mr. Thaksin—for a wide range of offenses. A spokesman for the attorney general office denied the accusation.

Mr. Thaksin was convicted of corruption in 2008 and has lived in self-exile. He has long maintained that the charges against him were trumped up. The amnesty bill could have paved the way for his return to Thailand, but the bill sparked an outcry and widespread opposition in Bangkok, prompting the Senate to reject the bill. The anti-amnesty movement has morphed, under Mr. Suthep's helm, into the continuing mass demonstrations to remove Ms. Yingluck and the Shinawatra family from Thai politics.

Ms. Yingluck dissolved the lower House on Monday and called a fresh election on Feb. 2, but her decision has done little to calm the tension. On Thursday, antigovernment protesters cut off electricity to the compound of Ms. Yingluck's main offices and demanded that police abandon the premises.

Ms. Yingluck, who on Thursday attended a meeting in Chiang Mai, her hometown in northern Thailand, has so far resisted resigning and urged every party to participate in the elections. It is expected that her Pheu Thai Party will win. On Thursday, Ms. Yingluck also invited the public and all groups to join an open forum on Sunday to seek solutions to current conflicts and political reform after the elections.

Mr. Abhisit's Democrat Party has been vague if it will participate in the vote after all 152 Democrat MPs resigned from Parliament in protest, saying they refused to participate in what they called the "illegitimate" Parliament.

In the meantime, Mr. Suthep has also set up his own governing body in parallel and requested a meeting with the military and police chiefs, as well as civic groups, to gain their supports.

The Red Shirt protesters, Ms. Yingluck's major ally, have been keeping a low profile after some of them got into street fights with anti-Thaksin crowds in November, leaving four people dead and many injured. But Red Shirt leaders vowed to mobilize support for Ms. Yingluck if there are signs of any political intervention that may scrap the coming elections.

The court's decision to grant bail to Mr. Abhisit could anger some of the Red Shirt protesters and escalate political tensions, said Janjira Sombatpoonsiri, a political scientist at Thammasat University in Bangkok.

At least a thousand Red Shirt protesters faced charges and prosecution related to arsons, violation of the emergency decree, among others, under Mr. Abhisit's administration. Dozens remain in jail.

Red Shirt "protesters could feel they haven't been treated fairly," Ms. Janjira said. "That will possibly drive a wedge into the sense of divisiveness."

Core Red Shirt leaders were charged with terrorism shortly after the crackdown in 2010. In an appearance at the same court on Thursday, Natthawut Saikua, a Red Shirt leader and deputy commerce minister, commended the country's justice system for bringing Mr. Abhisit to court, but added that the prosecution on the Red Shirts was at a faster pace.
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