Physicists in Japan Plan to Create New Universe in Lab

[juno jones]

"it might be impossible —within the limitations of our physical universe— to observe its having been created."<br>...The sound of one hand, wanking... <p></p><i></i>

[Joe Hillshoist]

I once came across a story that some gnostic sects believe the universe was created by a being called sophie having a toss.<br><br>Hmmmm <p></p><i></i>

[Avalon]

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>pity this busy monster, manunkind</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br>pity this busy monster, manunkind,<br><br>not. Progress is a comfortable disease:<br>your victim (death and life safely beyond)<br><br>plays with the bigness of his littleness<br>--- electrons deify one razorblade<br>into a mountainrange; lenses extend<br>unwish through curving wherewhen till unwish<br>returns on its unself.<br> A world of made<br>is not a world of born --- pity poor flesh<br><br>and trees, poor stars and stones, but never this<br>fine specimen of hypermagical<br><br>ultraomnipotence. We doctors know<br><br>a hopeless case if --- listen: there's a hell<br>of a good universe next door; let's go<br><br> <br>-- e.e. cummings<br> <p></p><i></i>

[stickdog99]

Avalon, your posts on this thread are fantastic. <p></p><i></i>

[yathrib]

Lisa Simpson already did it! LOL <p></p><i></i>

[Joe Hillshoist]

Oh no its Bart - look up in the sky its a bird its a plane no its the Evil One.<br><br>As the mob from South park once said: "Even the Simpsons rips off the Simpsons these days" or words to that effect.<br><br>Seems like reality is finally starting to. (Instead of the simpsons ripping off reality.)<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

[Avalon]

Thank you, stickdog. <curtsey><br><br>Having given birth a couple of times, I have a bit of experience in creating universes (or analogs) out of minute bits of matter. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

[StarmanSkye]

Good call, Yesferatu;<br><br>My initia'wacky' thought was the same -- this 'experiment' being the point-source for a brand 'new' alien universe with it's own unique laws of physics, evolution of planetary life-systems with varieties of creatures and intelligent self-cognizant species, each with their brand of origin-mythology/God stories ...<br><br>ie., the never-ending/never-beginning wheel-circle of life, branching-off into self-sustaining, independent universes as the great wheel/cosmic dynamo turns.<br><br>VERY interesting concept, re: 'creating' a new universe in a laboratory.<br><br>When scientists say they 'believe' some experient on the frontiers of knowledge and technical ability is 'safe', especially one involving huge potential energies, effects, or consequences, I tend to see red cautionary flags -- reflecting on a history of close-calls and near-or-actual disasters, and evil purposes to which new scientific/technical discoveries or capabilities have been put (often at the service of closely-held Special Interests, natch).<br><br>I too was reminded of the very-secret (at the time)controversy in which some Manhatten Project scientists were VERY concerned that a fission test might set-off an uncontrolled runaway series of chain-reaction explosions as the atmosphere was consumed.<br><br>It's not too reassuring that the experiment continued despite a lack of absolute certain surety that some unforeseen flaw could not be ruled out. Until the first fission bomb was tested, we just couldn't KNOW a catastrophic end-of-the-world wouldn't happen.<br><br>Also, it's not like the Big Bang and Inflation Theory are absolutely tried-and-true concensus-beliefs; Some very smart scientists are critical of many aspects of them, suggesting gaps in our knowledge and a not-insignificant degree of uncertaintly. Much about fusion and fission is still not known, and there are some BIG problems with relevant nuclear systems technology.<br><br>I'm sure not a luddite, as I have high value and respect for the methods and understandings of science -- but I sure think we need to be extremely cautious when it comes to designing experiments involving immense forces/energies, and esp. with the very stuff-thingness of space and time.<br><br>Starman <p></p><i></i>