Canadians carrying the anti-Semitic ‘disease’!

[Zombie Glenn Beck]

Wow- I have to rethink everything now- Here I thought we had a small crew crew of clowns generating resistance towards what should be ABC type stuff because some of them held "neither right nor left" beliefs that were actually a cover for a sympathy towards what most anyone would call extreme right wing beliefs, but they didn't want to admit it. Now, I see we actually have: great ecologists, psychoanalysts, intellectually giant philosophers, anti-racist social justice advocates and other such highly evolved individuals in our midst.

How could I have ever thought that jakell or any of those allied with him or bluenoseclaret might secretly harbor reactionary beliefs?

More importantly, why do you care if they harbor secret reactionary beliefs? By the very nature of being secret their beliefs dont show up on this board, and therefore dont effect the board. Unless you are saying that their presented beliefs are somehow influenced by those secret beliefs. But whats the difference between having beliefs that are secretly influenced by reactionary leanings, and honestly holding the beliefs that you state? Shouldnt the things that these people say be judged on their own merit and not based on any stuper-sekkret evilbadwrong thoughts which might have lead to them? By the way, the idea that people you disagree with arent just nazis, but SECRET Nazis is a completely sane and rational way of thinking.

[Zombie Glenn Beck]

The company I work for said they'd get me Rosetta Stone, but they say a lot of things. That was at least 5 months ago now.

There has been so much fantastic French horror and sci-fi cinema that I am hoping a simple immersion will do me good. Speaking of linguistic mutations, learning "French" 40 miles from Quebec is kind of doomed, because holy shit, they're speaking something else up there. Still, I want to enjoy Quebec City at least once without feeling like an unwelcome alien.

Rosetta Stone isnt that great tbh. Its good for vocabulary building and not much else. If you want something similar to it, and free too, check out http://www.memrise.com/. Its great for vocab.

[seemslikeadream]

Wow- I have to rethink everything now- Here I thought we had a small crew crew of clowns generating resistance towards what should be ABC type stuff because some of them held "neither right nor left" beliefs that were actually a cover for a sympathy towards what most anyone would call extreme right wing beliefs, but they didn't want to admit it. Now, I see we actually have: great ecologists, psychoanalysts, intellectually giant philosophers, anti-racist social justice advocates and other such highly evolved individuals in our midst.

How could I have ever thought that jakell or any of those allied with him or bluenoseclaret might secretly harbor reactionary beliefs?

More importantly, why do you care if they harbor secret reactionary beliefs? By the very nature of being secret their beliefs dont show up on this board, and therefore dont effect the board. Unless you are saying that their presented beliefs are somehow influenced by those secret beliefs. But whats the difference between having beliefs that are secretly influenced by reactionary leanings, and honestly holding the beliefs that you state? Shouldnt the things that these people say be judged on their own merit and not based on any stuper-sekkret evilbadwrong thoughts which might have lead to them? By the way, the idea that people you disagree with arent just nazis, but SECRET Nazis is a completely sane and rational way of thinking.

don't you know that only 3 maybe 4 members of RI worthy of posting here ..the rest are either too stupid....on the verge of being too stupid .....anti semitic...on the verge of being anti semitic...insane or on the verge of being insane .....and everyone that reads RI needs to be reminded of that constantly....on a daily basis.....and of course I need to mention that is NOT my opinion

[Zombie Glenn Beck]

Wow- I have to rethink everything now- Here I thought we had a small crew crew of clowns generating resistance towards what should be ABC type stuff because some of them held "neither right nor left" beliefs that were actually a cover for a sympathy towards what most anyone would call extreme right wing beliefs, but they didn't want to admit it. Now, I see we actually have: great ecologists, psychoanalysts, intellectually giant philosophers, anti-racist social justice advocates and other such highly evolved individuals in our midst.

How could I have ever thought that jakell or any of those allied with him or bluenoseclaret might secretly harbor reactionary beliefs?

More importantly, why do you care if they harbor secret reactionary beliefs? By the very nature of being secret their beliefs dont show up on this board, and therefore dont effect the board. Unless you are saying that their presented beliefs are somehow influenced by those secret beliefs. But whats the difference between having beliefs that are secretly influenced by reactionary leanings, and honestly holding the beliefs that you state? Shouldnt the things that these people say be judged on their own merit and not based on any stuper-sekkret evilbadwrong thoughts which might have lead to them? By the way, the idea that people you disagree with arent just nazis, but SECRET Nazis is a completely sane and rational way of thinking.

don't you know that only 3 maybe 4 members of RI worthy of posting here ..the rest are either too stupid....on the verge of being too stupid .....anti semitic...on the verge of being anti semitic...insane or on the verge of being insane .....and everyone that reads RI needs to be reminded of that constantly....on a daily basis.....

I wonder why AD even posts here, seeing as it is a den of racism. Surely there must be more doubleplusgood forums out there.

[seemslikeadream]

there is only one personal mega thread here ...need I say more?

oh and the weekly new anti semitism/fascists thread

and bhp calls me a drama queen

124 pages of self indulgence is not extreme drama?


FYI ...there are sub forums here...

[brainpanhandler]

Wow- I have to rethink everything now- Here I thought we had a small crew crew of clowns generating resistance towards what should be ABC type stuff because some of them held "neither right nor left" beliefs that were actually a cover for a sympathy towards what most anyone would call extreme right wing beliefs, but they didn't want to admit it. Now, I see we actually have: great ecologists, psychoanalysts, intellectually giant philosophers, anti-racist social justice advocates and other such highly evolved individuals in our midst.

How could I have ever thought that jakell or any of those allied with him or bluenoseclaret might secretly harbor reactionary beliefs?

More importantly, why do you care if they harbor secret reactionary beliefs?

Do you believe racism has really become less prevalent on a personal, societal and institutional level in the past 60 years or so? I don't. I believe it has simply become less acceptable to practice and promote it openly. Does this mean it is less harmful? I don't think so. In some respects it is perhaps more harmful.

By the very nature of being secret their beliefs dont show up on this board, and therefore dont effect the board.

If it were that secret. Maybe. But it isn't, so moot point.

Unless you are saying that their presented beliefs are somehow influenced by those secret beliefs.

Can't speak for AD, but doesn't that stand to reason?

But whats the difference between having beliefs that are secretly influenced by reactionary leanings, and honestly holding the beliefs that you state?

Little to nothing. That's why it matters.

Shouldnt the things that these people say be judged on their own merit and not based on any stuper-sekkret evilbadwrong thoughts which might have lead to them?

Yes and no. Yes on the merits. No, examining the origins of people's beliefs is important. I don't want to just judge the words of David Duke. I want to also know what he is afraid to say, what he refrains from saying for political purposes, what he says in private, what he says in code for those who get the message, wink, wink. I want to know about his formative years, his influences, the books he read, his family life, his demographic origins. All of these areas are of interest.

When a child walks up to me looking guilty and holding something behind their back and I ask them to show me and they won't, I become suspicious.

By the way, the idea that people you disagree with arent just nazis, but SECRET Nazis is a completely sane and rational way of thinking.

I have yet to see AD label anyone with whom they merely disagree a nazi. Context is everything.

BTW, stands to reason that there are many people who hide their most reactionary tendencies. Right? Of course. If only the world could be rid of the PC nazis that force the real nazis to hide beneath white hoods.

[coffin_dodger]

BPH wrote:
If it were that secret. Maybe. But it isn't, so moot point.

Who are the racists on RI, BPH?

[Zombie Glenn Beck]

BPH wrote:
If it were that secret. Maybe. But it isn't, so moot point.

Who are the racists on RI, BPH?

Grand Inquisitor AD has confirmed me and Jakell 100%, not sure who else is one but you should be on your guard. The secret nazis are everywhere.

[jakell]

It was never confirmed that I am 100%, but whatever passes for a critical mass of 'maybes' on here, I surely must be close.

Maybe confirmation will be forthcoming, but I doubt it, sort of ruins the tension.

[Sounder]

Wow- I have to rethink everything now-

No you don’t, as that is one of the advantages of being an ideological fundamentalist.

AD wrote…

What is needed is an expansion and deepening of our political/economic thinking, one which consistently critiques neo-Colonialism, Racism and all the rest and instead struggles towards societies based on post-patriarchal, post-capitalist, post-imperialist, post-racist and etc., values.

True that, but how do we get there? You say (or AD says, because AD has me on ignore) that the State and Capital are central, whereas I say that our split model and the coercion enabled by this model are central. In my opinion, using capital and the state as imperatives or central drivers is materialistic in essence and serves to lessen consideration of the role of consciousness in the development of chains of causation.

Anyway I see AD’s program as being in support of globalism, -neo-colonialism writ large.

Of course the natives are all suspect.

AD’s use of inflammatory rhetoric covers for an unwillingness to deal with issues of substance.

Perhaps I prefer a different metric for what is racism, imperialism or patriarchy.

To me; supporting globalism is profoundly racist, imperialist and patriarchal, not to mention being pro-polluter, pro-corporation, and anti-indigenous rights.

Anybody care to challenge that assertion?

[Searcher08]

Wow- I have to rethink everything now- Here I thought we had a small crew crew of clowns generating resistance towards what should be ABC type stuff because some of them held "neither right nor left" beliefs that were actually a cover for a sympathy towards what most anyone would call extreme right wing beliefs, but they didn't want to admit it. Now, I see we actually have: great ecologists, psychoanalysts, intellectually giant philosophers, anti-racist social justice advocates and other such highly evolved individuals in our midst.

How could I have ever thought that jakell or any of those allied with him or bluenoseclaret might secretly harbor reactionary beliefs?

Think of them as an essential part of the ecology of the place, sort of like bacteria. bacteria on a micro scale are complicated critters, some good, some bad, some essential. A healthy immune system can fend off most bacterial infections. Occasionally when an infection becomes systemic and non-conventional methods fail to control the infection antibiotics may be necessary, but they should be used sparingly and certainly not in perpetuity as prophylaxis. That is detrimental to the organism. There needs to be some trust in healthy self regulation of the organism. Vigilance too.

Actually, this is exactly how I think of it, with the exception of having less faith in the self-regulating mechanisms. I see exaggerated growth in pathogenic vectors as a sign of a weak immune mechanism in general.

I suppose I've got personal feelings about this because I've seen more than one person slip off into bigoted beliefs and wingnuttery- when they really should know better- and wacko/reactionary conspiracy culture was an integral part of that process. I don't think it can wholly be blamed for chronic mental imbalance, but it sure don't help!

Can I just say how deeply fascistic and de-humanising - describing other humans here on R.I. in this way. It is a unexamined metaphorical landscape that underlies an enormous contempt for those you see as the microbes, and completely fucked power-relations - kinda difficult to listen or hear as an equal someone you regard as being a candidate for bacterial extermination, eh?

By all means please continue acting like you are R.I's very own Department of Homeland Security or Stasi or the Israeli Defense Force.

Of course, please continue to NOT COMMENT ON THE OP, on the B'nai Brith in Canada issue as raised in the Robert Fisk article.

You have avoided commenting on it as though... it was some type of contagious pathogen.

I wonder - is it true that within the heart of every right-on critique-driven check-box collectivist, there exists a totalitarian yearning to get out? One who wants to 'exterminate the bacteria'?

Jung used the term particularly to refer to the unconscious acting against the wishes of the conscious mind. (Aspects of the Masculine, chapter 7, paragraph 294).

Enantiodromia. Literally, "running counter to," referring to the emergence of the unconscious opposite in the course of time. This characteristic phenomenon practically always occurs when an extreme, one-sided tendency dominates conscious life; in time an equally powerful counterposition is built up, which first inhibits the conscious performance and subsequently breaks through the conscious control. ("Definitions," ibid., par. 709)

Enantiodromia is typically experienced in conjunction with symptoms associated with acute neurosis, and often foreshadows a rebirth of the personality.

The grand plan on which the unconscious life of the psyche is constructed is so inaccessible to our understanding that we can never know what evil may not be necessary in order to produce good by enantiodromia, and what good may very possibly lead to evil. ("The Phenomenology of the Spirit in Fairytales", Collected Works 9i, par. 397)

[seemslikeadream]

Can I just say how deeply fascistic and de-humanising - describing other humans here on R.I. in this way. It is a unexamined metaphorical landscape that underlies an enormous contempt for those you see as the microbes, and completely fucked power-relations - kinda difficult to listen or hear as an equal someone you regard as being a candidate for bacterial extermination, eh?

By all means please continue acting like you are R.I's very own Department of Homeland Security or Stasi or the Israeli Defense Force.

Of course, please continue to NOT COMMENT ON THE OP, on the B'nai Brith in Canada issue as raised in the Robert Fisk article.

You have avoided commenting on it as though... it was some type of contagious pathogen.

I wonder - is it true that within the heart of every right-on critique-driven check-box collectivist, there exists a totalitarian yearning to get out? One who wants to 'exterminate the bacteria'?

[jakell]

Can I just say how deeply fascistic and de-humanising - describing other humans here on R.I. in this way. It is a unexamined metaphorical landscape that underlies an enormous contempt for those you see as the microbes, and completely fucked power-relations - kinda difficult to listen or hear as an equal someone you regard as being a candidate for bacterial extermination, eh?

Yep sounded like an unecessary bile ridden exchange to me to, even by RI standards, like I said, I've been looking in.

It may be just me, but it looked like BPH poked AD with a pointy stick just for the hell of it.

[coffin_dodger]

It may be just me, but it looked like BPH poked AD with a pointy stick just for the hell of it.

Haven't you noticed? When AD comes under pressure, BPH appears. To Disect. To Pronounce His Mighty Judgement.

[seemslikeadream]

It may be just me, but it looked like BPH poked AD with a pointy stick just for the hell of it.

Haven't you noticed? When AD comes under pressure, BPH appears. To Disect. To Pronounce His Mighty Judgement.

and call me a drama queen