Yeah as usual I gotta do the research on other people's claims myself.
Here we go:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... 24472_7256
This is Google's cache of http://vk.com/wall-57424472_7256. It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on Jul 17, 2014 16:10:43 GMT. The current page could have changed in the meantime.
It leads to "post not found."
That's the Google cache (accessed by me at 19:00 EDT on 17-July-2014) of the supposed admission by the Donetsk militias at vk.com that they shot down a plane, thinking it was a Kiev military transport. They took down the boast a while later, when they realized they'd hit a passenger jet. (What the fuck were you thinking, airlines?! All of you!)
Those videos don't play for me, but you can see the thumbnail images.
Here's what the cached version has in Russian:
Сводки от Стрелкова Игоря Ивановича
17.07.2014 17:50 (мск) Сообщение от ополчения.
"В районе Тореза только что сбили самолет Ан-26, валяется где-то за шахтой "Прогресс".
Предупреждали же - не летать в "нашем небе".
А вот и видео-подтверждение очередного "птичкопада".
Птичка упала за террикон, жилой сектор не зацепила. Мирные люди не пострадали.
А также еще есть информация о втором сбитом самолете, вроде бы Су."
17.07.2014. В Торезе сбили самолет 1:12
В районе Снежного ополченцы сбили Украинский самолёт 17.07.2014 0:58
The Google translation:
https://translate.google.com/translate? ... edit-text=
Summaries of the shooting of Igor
17.07.2014 17:50 (MSK) Message from the militia.
"In the area Torrez just downed plane An-26, lying somewhere in the mine" Progress. "
Also warned - do not fly in "our sky."
And here is the confirmation of the next video "ptichkopada."
Bird fell for waste heap, the residential sector is not caught. Civilians are not injured.
And also have information about the second downed aircraft, like the Su. "
17.07.2014. In Tores downed plane 1:12
In the area of Snow Ukrainian militiamen shot down plane 17.07.2014 0:58
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What's this second downed plane he's talking about? Possible misunderstanding. No reports of two downings.
Now... ANYONE KNOW RUSSIAN OR UKRAINIAN?
Because here are supposed "intercepts" (from Kiev, I think) of the Donetsk militia talking about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uKjKntClRc
Is all this fakeable? Well, yes! That doesn't mean it's fake, however. Or that there's anything implausible about the shootdown in an area where the Donetsk militias had already had two successful shootdowns:
So what I'm saying is, we may know nothing for sure, but this is now the "nothing" we know.
Getting on to less certain evidence, here's one of your DU liberal imperialists claiming these are pictures of a BuK (a Russian military launcher of ground-to-air missiles) in the relevant area, and another supposed Donetsk sympathizer rhapsodizing over a picture of the supposed BuK in question:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?c ... pid=848750
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?c ... pid=848745
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