Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby justdrew » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:54 am

well, I just ran across a little tidbit, mentioned as an aside in a longer article not focusing on him, but apparently "al baghdadi" was for a time incarcerated by the US military in Iraq. I'm sure that's just a Cinque. Er, I mean sync.
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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby Luther Blissett » Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:46 pm

The new John Cantlie video is a strange one. I'd interested in hearing some takes on it.
(it's been removed from youtube on this article, but the liveleak mirror/version is still up: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=24c_1420323742)

Hostage John Cantlie Takes on Mosul in Eighth Islamic State Propaganda Video
By Meredith Hoffman

January 4, 2015 | 12:49 pm
In one of the Islamic State's most bizarre propaganda videos yet, British hostage John Cantlie acts as a smiling tour guide through the "heartland" of Mosul, Iraq.

Cantlie — a photojournalist captured in Syria in 2012 along with American journalist James Foley, who was executed last August — greets the audience from a mountaintop overlooking Iraq's second-largest city, which was taken by militants during their advance over vast areas of land in Iraq and Syria last summer. He then descends to shop in the "bustling" market, visits a children's hospital, and even rides a cop's motorcycle.

"It's an absolute heartland for the caliphate and home to 2 million people from every walk of life," Cantlie says of Mosul from the mountaintop. "Mosul is an ancient trading city and a Sunni province, as much of Iraq used to be before American-led invasions and pro-Iranian governments changed the political map."

The TV-style video, produced by the militants' media arm, Alhayat Media Center, is the eighth propaganda film featuring the 43-year-old captive. Cantlie has previously appeared in several scripted Islamic State propaganda films, but none delivered with the same casual dynamism he exhibits in the latest video.

In the Mosul video, Cantlie appears to have memorized a lengthy script praising local life. He strolls through the local market to show that "people are going about their business," not suffering, as Western media portrays. He points to neon store signs to demonstrate that people indeed have constant electricity, not a mere two hours of power each day, as news reports have said.

He then visits a children's hospital to show that "despite the bombs... the Islamic State can handle it. The Islamic State prevails."

Cantlie even reads aloud Wikipedia and CNN articles about people fearing the Mosul police force, which is rife with corruption, and then counters such allegations with his own ride-along with a cop through the city on a motorcycle.

"It seems that the police are almost redundant despite their very firm presence," he says as he whizzes down the road on the motorbike. "There's really very little crime being committed from what I can see — just people going about their business."

The only crack in Cantlie's facade seems to appear when he spots a US-led coalition drone in the sky high above. "Drone, down here! Over here!" He shouts in an over-the-top fashion, similar to his delivery in previous scripted videos. "Trying to rescue me again? Do something. Useless, absolutely useless."

Cantlie is among an unknown number of Western captives being held by the same militant group that executed Foley, American journalist Steven Sotloff, and three foreign aid workers: Brits David Haines and Alan Henning, and American Peter Kassig.

In one of the Islamic State's other propaganda videos released last October, Cantlie claims that militants have treated hostages "well," but freed cellmates detailed a different story, saying the insurgents have chained, tortured, starved and waterboarded the hostages, according to a New York Times report.

At the end of Cantlie's performance in the latest video, he points to Mosul residents watching yet another propaganda video he narrated from the Syrian city of Kobane in October, 2014.

"It just shows how much territory the Islamic State are controlling," he concludes.

A British Foreign Office spokeswoman told the Guardian: "We are aware of the release of another video and are studying its contents."

Follow Meredith Hoffman on Twitter: @merhoffman
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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby 82_28 » Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:37 pm

Well, we're definitely being culture jammed in some fashion. ISIS definitely has some pretty sleek video production capabilites.

I noted that when can't lie was reading from that book when he was beside the cop car, they blurred the book out. I zoomed in to see if that was the case. Yeah -- blurred out. Who the fuck knows about this rag-tag group.

Definite culture jam of some sort though.
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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby solace » Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:40 pm

^^^^

1. He's trying to stay alive a little longer OR

2. He's converted OR

3. Stockholm Syndrome OR

4. He's being ideologically consistent ( His sister, Jessica Cantlie, has claimed that John Cantlie "believes two-third" of what he says in the videos)

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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:56 am

solace » 05 Jan 2015 12:40 wrote:^^^^

1. He's trying to stay alive a little longer OR

2. He's converted OR

3. Stockholm Syndrome OR

4. He's being ideologically consistent ( His sister, Jessica Cantlie, has claimed that John Cantlie "believes two-third" of what he says in the videos)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ister.html


They aren't necessarily mutually exclusive either.
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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:11 am

82_28 » 05 Jan 2015 12:37 wrote:Well, we're definitely being culture jammed in some fashion. ISIS definitely has some pretty sleek video production capabilites.

I noted that when can't lie was reading from that book when he was beside the cop car, they blurred the book out. I zoomed in to see if that was the case. Yeah -- blurred out. Who the fuck knows about this rag-tag group.

Definite culture jam of some sort though.


Seriously - an army of what - 20, 000 people - in an area that is basically a power vacuum. Many of the members of whatever they call themselves from Australia seem to be former criminals who (rumour has it) were destined for a very short life if they stayed here.

They are good at media tho. Culture Jamming is a reasonable description.

Like everything else tho its an elephant in a room full of blind people - us.

Oh one other thing about IS and what Mac said pages back.

They are a great distraction while rich criminals steal whats left of our stuff.
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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby elfismiles » Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:01 pm

Islamic State babies invade Twitter
This story was published: 4 hours ago January 14, 2015 2:54AM
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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby 8bitagent » Tue Jan 13, 2015 7:33 pm

Wait wait...so I$I$ (or EYE ESSS EYE ELLE if you're Obama) or D'aesh if you be hip...is still a thing? ISIS and Ebola is like, sooo 2014. Get with the times brah!

Is it wrong that despite the endless child sex slavery, endless head chopping, endless death...the thing that creeps me out the most are their videos?

I still can't get over the eerie calm of the alleged beheading victims and the setting. Did they ever find the victims bodies? Why did they never show the death? Why were the victims so calm?
Nothing makes sense.

And John Cantlie...the bizarrro world Richard Engle...im morbidly curious to see where he pops up next.
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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby 82_28 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:29 am

No. Nothing makes sense. There was a Toyota truck parked down the street from me and I constantly noticed it and would mutter under my breath "rag-tag group". I don't know why. Then last Sunday watching football Ford ran a new commercial about a truck which had a selling point of having "military grade steel" or maybe it was aluminum. Anyway, "military grade" was the selling point. Neither here nor there, it just got me to thinking about the Toyota trucks ISIS is using. Also the humvee problem with "IEDs" back in the day.

Wouldn't it be "productive" for the US or whoever is running this carnival to begin making IEDs that could totally take out these Toyota trucks? I have no idea, just piecing together the incoherency of the average American. Those abroad or those who don't watch TV may not know that commercials featuring prosthetics are IN. Like dads holding their kid with their cyborg arm atop an idyllic hill with some country song. All so wholesome. All so technocratic or technofascist. We have to have this shit emblazoned in our brains -- the progress of perpetual war. Perpetual progress. Improving on everything at all times.
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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:05 pm

Ohio Man Arrested for Alleged ISIS-Inspired Plot on US Capitol, FBI Says
Jan 14, 2015, 4:53 PM ET
By PIERRE THOMAS, JACK DATE, MIKE LEVINE and JACK CLOHERTY

PHOTO: A flag of the Islamic State is seen on the other side of a bridge at the front line of fighting between Kurdish Peshmerga fighters and Islamist militants in Rashad, on the road between Kirkuk and Tikrit, Sept. 11, 2014.
A flag of the Islamic State is seen on the other side of a bridge at the front line of fighting between Kurdish Peshmerga fighters and Islamist militants in Rashad, on the road between Kirkuk and Tikrit, Sept. 11, 2014. JM Lopez/AFP/Getty Images
The FBI has arrested an Ohio man for allegedly plotting an ISIS-inspired attack on the U.S. Capitol, where he hoped to set off a series of bombs aimed at lawmakers, whom he allegedly considered enemies.

Christopher Lee Cornell, 20, of Green Township, was arrested today on charges of attempting to kill a U.S. government official, authorities said.

According to government documents, he allegedly planned to detonate pipe bombs at the national landmark and open fire on any employees and officials fleeing after the explosions.

The FBI first noticed Cornell several months ago after an informant notified the agency that Cornell was allegedly voicing support for violent “jihad” on Twitter accounts under the alias “Raheel Mahrus Ubaydah,” according to charging documents. In addition, Cornell allegedly posted statements, videos and other content expressing support for ISIS -- the brutal terrorist group also known as ISIL -- that is wreaking havoc in Iraq and Syria.

“I believe that we should just wage jihad under our own orders and plan attacks and everything,” Cornell allegedly wrote in an online message to the informant in August, according to the FBI. “I believe we should meet up and make our own group in alliance with the Islamic State here and plan operations ourselves."

In the message, Cornell said that such attacks “already got a thumbs up” from radical cleric Anwar Awlaki “before his martyrdom.”

Awlaki was killed in a U.S. drone strike in 2011, but his online messages calling for attacks on the West live on.

U.S. officials considered Awlaki an operational leader within al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, the Yemen-based terror group tied to the deadly assault on a satirical magazine in Paris last week.

Cornell and the informant met in Cincinnati over two days in October, and then another two days in November. During the last meeting, Cornell told an FBI informant that members of Congress were enemies and that he wanted to launch an attack on the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C., according to charging documents.

Cornell then allegedly saved money to finance the attack and researched how to build bombs, the FBI said.

Earlier today, while also taking “final steps” to travel to Washington for the attack, Cornell allegedly bought two semi-automatic rifles and 600 rounds of ammunition from a store in Ohio, authorities said.

Within hours of Cornell’s arrest, the FBI and Department of Homeland Security issued a bulletin to law enforcement agencies across the country notifying them of the case.

"The alleged activities of Cornell highlight the continued interest of US-based violent extremists to support designated foreign terrorist organizations overseas, such as ISIL, by committing terrorist acts in the United States,” the bulletin read. “Terrorist group members and supporters will almost certainly continue to use social media platforms to disseminate English language violent extremist messages."
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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby jingofever » Sun Jan 18, 2015 5:13 am

"A krewe is a group of people who get together at carnival time and put on a parade and a ball. Anyone can form a krewe. Of course there are the famous old krewes like Comus and Rex and Twelfth Night, but there are also dozens of others. The other day a group of Syrians from Algiers formed a krewe named Isis."

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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby cptmarginal » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:01 am

jingofever » Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:13 am wrote:"A krewe is a group of people who get together at carnival time and put on a parade and a ball. Anyone can form a krewe. Of course there are the famous old krewes like Comus and Rex and Twelfth Night, but there are also dozens of others. The other day a group of Syrians from Algiers formed a krewe named Isis."

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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby cptmarginal » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:11 am

seemslikeadream wrote:
Ohio Man Arrested for Alleged ISIS-Inspired Plot on US Capitol, FBI Says
Jan 14, 2015, 4:53 PM ET
By PIERRE THOMAS, JACK DATE, MIKE LEVINE and JACK CLOHERTY


Let's play "spot the differences"

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Indiana Guardsman Stopped for Speeding in Madison County Had 48 Bombs

January 8th, 2014

Update: Chemical Weapons Charge Added

Via: Dayton Daily News:

A former Fairborn resident and Wright State University graduate reportedly had more than 80 explosives devices, plus the materials to make more, inside his van when he was stopped on Interstate 70 New Year’s Day, the Columbus bomb squad commander testified Friday.

Andrew Scott Boguslawski, 43, of Moores Hill, Ind., faces a new charge of illegal assembly and possession of chemical weapons in addition to his initial felony charge of illegal manufacture or processing of explosives. The charges stem from a traffic stop New Year’s Day on westbound I-70 in Madison County when Trooper W. Scott Davis said he clocked Boguslawski driving 85 mph in a 70 mph zone.




For the first time in several years, I’m adding new category. [???] will be a lot like Florida, minus the Florida.

Via: The Columbus Dispatch:

An Indiana National Guardsman was arrested outside Columbus on New Year’s Day after a state trooper found nearly 50 bombs and the blueprints for a Navy SEAL training facility inside his car, the Madison County prosecutor said yesterday.

Andrew Scott Boguslawski, 43, also had a remote-control device to detonate the bombs, Madison County Prosecutor Stephen Pronai said. Boguslawski’s civilian job is as a groundskeeper at the Muscatatuck Urban Training Center in south-central Indiana. Prosecutors could not say definitively yesterday whether the blueprints in his car were for the facility where he worked.

Boguslawski also had a bulletproof vest in his car, Pronai said.

“He said something to the trooper about making a bomb vest,” Pronai said.

Lt. Col. Cathy Van Bree, a spokeswoman for the Indiana National Guard, said Boguslawski is a specialist in the guard who does intelligence analysis and has top-secret clearance.


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Guardsman found with explosives had more than initially reported

Saturday January 11, 2014

LONDON, Ohio — An Indiana National Guardsman arrested after investigators found a cache of weapons inside his van had significantly more explosives than originally reported, a prosecutor said today.

Investigators found 83 explosive devices in Andrew Scott Boguslawski’s van, 35 more than initially reported, Assistant Madison County Prosecutor Nick Adkins said during Boguslawski’s appearance in Madison Municipal Court. Adkins said most of the explosives were intended to help ignite larger devices. About 25 were larger explosives, he said.

Boguslawski is charged with one count of manufacturing explosives, a second-degree felony, and one count of collecting chemicals for manufacturing explosives, a fourth-degree felony. Prosecutors likely will take the case to a grand jury, possibly in early February.

Boguslawski, 43, did not testify during the hearing, but his attorney, Mark Babb of Dayton, argued that there was no evidence that Boguslawski made the explosives in Madison County and, because of that lack of evidence, the charges against Boguslawski should be thrown out. Babb said there also was no evidence that Boguslawski planned to hurt anyone.

“There’s a lot of factors that aren’t known yet that I’m not at liberty to discuss at this point,” Babb said. “But I do not think he’s guilty of the charges that were brought against him.”

Adkins, though, said Boguslawski posed a significant public risk because of the number of explosives in his possession.

Municipal Judge Eric Schooley agreed, ordering Boguslawski to remain in the Tri-County Jail in Mechanicsburg on a $1 million bond and sending the case to Madison County Common Pleas Court.

Boguslawski has been in jail since early Jan. 2, when a State Highway Patrol trooper stopped him on I-70 after clocking him traveling at 85 mph in a 70 mph zone. The trooper, William Scott Davis, said the van bore stickers about guns, ammunition and the military. When he walked up to the window, he asked Boguslawski whether he had any weapons inside the van. Boguslawski answered “nope,” Davis testified today.

But when Davis returned to the van with a speeding ticket, he noticed the handle of what he thought was a gun between Boguslawski’s knees. Davis called for backup and the troopers searched the car.

The gun that prompted the search turned out to be a plastic replica. But troopers found other weapons inside the van, including a loaded pistol and a sniper rifle. The troopers also found bags that held plastic 5-Hour Energy bottles with wires coming out of their tops and what looked like a wallet with straws and wires poking out of its sides, as well as remote detonating devices.

A bomb squad determined that the bottles and wallet were explosives.

Davis said the 5-Hour Energy bottles “looked like IEDs,” or improvised explosive devices, and said Boguslawski told him they were used during military training exercises to prepare for suicide bombers.

Boguslawski also had the blueprints for a Navy SEAL training facility inside the van, Madison County Prosecutor Stephen Pronai said.

Boguslawski has enlisted in the National Guard in several states, including Ohio, since he graduated from high school in 1988, according to the Indiana National Guard. He was most recently assigned as an intelligence analyst with a reconnaissance unit and held top-secret government clearance because of that work. In November, he was transferred to the Indiana National Guard’s Medical Discharge Unit.

Lt. Col. Cathy Van Bree, a spokeswoman for the Indiana National Guard, said she could not disclose why Boguslawski was transferred to that unit.

Boguslawski also worked at one time as a groundskeeper at Muscatatuck Urban Training Center in Butlerville, Ind. Van Bree said yesterday that he stopped working there in 2010.

His security clearance was suspended after he was arrested, she said.

Boguslawski, of Moores Hill, Ind., told investigators he was traveling from Pennsylvania to Indiana when he was stopped.


"Boguslawski's bomb-builder lifestyle presents an extreme danger to the public"

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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:45 am

Bogus law ski?
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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:55 am

Ok I stand corrected. Its a genuine polish name. I actually thought someone with a car load of bombs and a name like Bogus-law-ski could be a set up. Bit dumb.

I googled it - the first 4 people were famous or a disambig page - all wikipedias.

the fifth was:

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/andre ... nce-2014-1

the a couple later:

Katharina Boguslawski - Google Scholar Citations

Orbital entanglement in bond-formation processes. K Boguslawski,


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