Underground Bunker Condos 1% Plan to Ride Out Apocalypse

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Underground Bunker Condos 1% Plan to Ride Out Apocalypse

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:00 am

Inside the Underground Bunker Condos Where 1 Percenters Plan to Ride Out the Apocalypse
If you do have a few million lying around, a piece of these fortified silos can be yours.
By Natalie Shure / AlterNet January 7, 2015
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Without the savvy to live off the land that we associate with survivalists, how are the one-percenters supposed to get through the apocalypse? It’s tough to envision the well-heeled skinning deer to feed their Wall Street dinner party guests. But now the elite have another option. Instead of handing the future to bearded crackpots building sandbag barricades on rural compounds, the rich can score a luxury underground Survival Condo nice enough to remind them of the one they left in Manhattan.

Built in two underground missile bunkers at an undisclosed location in Kansas, the units run from $1.5 to $.4.5 million and typically can’t be financed—so that sum’s got to be paid up front. But if you do have a few million lying around, a piece of these fortified underground silos can be yours. So far, there’s no shortage of takers. The first silo is reportedly sold out, and the second is currently accepting contracts.

It would likely take a serious cataclysm to drive posh coasties to the Kansan underworld, and you can’t sell these things without also selling fear. In fact, the project’s website includes a photo of a colorless DC skyline ravaged by an implied nuclear holocaust, complete with a bombed-out capitol building. (Another page includes an illustration of the Statue of Liberty nearly submerged by stormy seas, with nary an ape in sight.)


But project manager Larry Hall rejects the notion that these units are for tinfoil hat types: “There is a stereotype of some survivalists as being single-minded—that they spend virtually all of their time doing just survival activities with no other activities,” he wrote to me in an email. This survivalist subculture is indeed fixated, as any viewer of A&E’s hit reality series “Doomsday Preppers” would attest. But Hall says those aren’t his customers. “We are not like that. Most of our clients are professional people who run businesses and have diversified interests. The involvement in the survival condo project is a recognition that there are a lot of potential threats that could disrupt their normal lives, and they want to have a plan for that possibility.”

The luxury Survival Condos are the product of meticulous labor and forethought. Someone had to dream up and execute the three separate water supplies, dog parks, a library and classroom, food production facilities, and a general store that will presumably recognize a currency severely disrupted by all the doom raging outside. The marketing literature correctly contends that strategizing the logistics of survival beneath the clattering hooves of the Four Horsemen would be a massive drain on one’s energy. Survival Condos caters to customers rich enough to outsource those obsessive measures. But there’s not much that ideologically distinguishes buyers of luxury Survival Condos from so-called preppers: both activities are rooted in a reactionary desire to maintain the status quo, even as the world crumbles.

When I asked Hall about the likelihood of a disruptive, mass-scale disaster that would necessitate these measures, he responded with the cliche endemic to all rhetoric about things that scare us: “it’s not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when.” It was the same mantra guiding Cold War-era families to build bomb shelters under their kitchens, and that inspired the government to commission the very subterranean self-preservation tanks now hosting Hall’s project. The “if, not when” survivalist ethos is the cornerstone of every episode of “Doomsday Preppers.” Each episode profiles families across the country gearing up for their own nightmare scenario. They learn hand-to-hand combat, hoard canned produce and teach their kids to fire rifles to mow down eventual intruders from the wrong side of dystopia.

It’s a fun show, but it makes me miserable. Not because I harbor any more anxiety than anyone else about nuclear fallout, climate change, economic meltdowns or war, but because most forms of prepping seem so damn antithetical to the idea of community. Peppers assume there will be plenty of desperate losers in the wake of the doom that lies around the corner, so they focus on defense and security. They gear up for a fight instead of a collaboration.

The us-against-them rhetoric is so inherent in the prepping subculture that each family appearing on “Doomsday Preppers” is rated by an expert panel partially on their defense strategy: do they have enough alarms, surveillance and weapons? The show leaves little room for doubt about the ideological leanings of survivalist philosophy: in one episode, a hippy-dippy couple in Vermont (of course!) had no defense plan because they figured they’d share their organic farm crops with the post-apocalyptic needy. But they were chewed out by the judges, who deemed their faith in others to be naive. In contrast, another episode featured a father accidentally blowing off his own thumb teaching his grade-schooler how to shoot. Needless to say, there was no a-ha! moment where Dad realizes, “Well, gee, kids! I’ve spent all this time teaching you to fend off imaginary boogeymen but what I failed to see is that the biggest danger has been myself!” Isn’t that naive?

Hall’s Survival Condos project is anti-community too: so much so that it's built into a multimillion-dollar bunker literally designed to protect the elite against communist predators. Does this sound familiar? It's like an extreme echo of elitist right-wing policies, like the championing of corporate tax cuts and safety net elimination. The reactionary underpinnings of snapping up Survival Condos are not unlike demanding a voucher to send your kids to an elite boarding school, or lobbying against universal healthcare. I am exceptional; therefore, your pain should not apply to me.

It doesn’t take a poet to see the metaphorical implications of wanting to wait out the suffering of others in an underground fortress with a dog park. That way, you can gossip with neighbors who also had the $1.5-per-unit in the bank, and deduce that those people weathering chaos outside must have done something to deserve it. After all, what’s keeping them from pulling themselves up by their bootstraps and constructing their own military-grade underground infrastructure from scratch? They have part-time night school for that!

The moral tragedy of the Survival Condos reflects that of conservative philosophy overall: it insists on monopolizing access to the very resources survival is contingent on. I find it profoundly sad that no one on “Doomsday Preppers” strives to organize their communities in the midst of post-apocalyptic ruin, or to otherwise help towns ravaged by Disaster X. They don’t lead their communities or local councils to diversify food and water sources, protect public health, or do anything else that might minimize harm beyond their own heavily fortified dwellings.

There’s nothing wrong with preparing for the worst; it’s a very human thing. I don’t personally spend my time panicking about cataclysms, but it makes me sad that the sole instinct of those who do is to save themselves while the rest of the world goes to shit. That’s true whether you hole up in a log cabin near a creek or a luxury silo with a swimming pool. Wouldn't it be nice if the people obsessed with the end of the world spent a bit more time imagining other people in it?

Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Underground Bunker Condos 1% Plan to Ride Out Apocalypse

Postby coffin_dodger » Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:28 am

Wonderful real estate if you want to the spend an apocalypso cowering in a hole, in the ground - but feeling superior.

And once it calms down, those unfortunates that survive on the outside (who once valeted your car/tended your lawn/worked in your factory) will be more inclined to serve you as dinner than serve your whim.

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Postby NeonLX » Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:59 am

Reminds me of Philip K Dick's "The Penultimate Truth", but the 1% lived above ground while the rest of the population toiled in underground factories.
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Postby 82_28 » Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:02 am

Here's an ad I made for one of our prototype newspapers a couple weeks ago.

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Postby brekin » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:40 pm

This would fail in less than a week. The thing is most of the 1% don't know how to do anything for themselves or how everyday things work (think plumbing, heating, water treatment, etc not hedge funds). They've even outsourced their own survival plan when the first rule of doomsday prepping is you don't let anyone know where your hole is. Even the hard driving self made ones I imagine would be at a lost with no cadre or service or infrastructure personnel in these bunker condos. And if you bring all those support people in to run things what would you pay them with? They would have the knowledge and hence the control so why would they not move the 1% into the service crew dorms? There would be no economy other than the immediate one in the bunker condos and I can't see the knowledge that so and so use to be a big wheel at Smith and Barney carrying much weight against the guy who can filter the sewage into potable water.

It reminds me of a greeting card I saw years ago. There is a shipwreck in the ocean and a businessman is standing on the deck of the sinking ship, dressed in a business suit with his briefcase. Around him are other businessmen bobbing in the water or getting into life rafts. The businessman is saying, "I wish my secretary was here, she'd know what to do."
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Postby Iamwhomiam » Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:23 pm

For Sale: Deep, Spacious Roswell Property, Once Occupied by a Missile

By RICK ROJASJAN. 14, 2015
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Jim Moore, a real estate agent in Roswell, N.M., locked the entrance to a dormant missile silo. Credit Rick Scibelli Jr. for The New York Times

ROSWELL, N.M. — Past the city limits, where the main street with the U.F.O. museum and the McDonald’s in the shape of a flying saucer gives way to a lonely highway coursing through an ocean of scrubby terrain, the green door pops up like a periscope.

Jim Moore, a real estate agent here, sells mostly ranch houses in tidy neighborhoods or stretches of undeveloped land in a place where that is abundant. But for some reason, he said, when an odd listing comes around, it tends to fall to him. And on a recent morning, he pulled off the highway onto a gravel path leading straight to his latest example.

The 25-acre parcel, a 20-mile drive from the city’s downtown, has a worn trailer where the former owner lived and then that green door, which opens on a stairwell heading deep underground. There, visitors who do not fear enclosed spaces will find a marvel of military architecture that has had Mr. Moore’s phone ringing with inquiries from across the country: a missile silo, decommissioned decades ago.

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Tom Edgett, left, and Realan Burns investigated a control panel inside a decommissioned missile silo outside of Roswell, N.M. Credit Rick Scibelli Jr. for The New York Times

From a real estate perspective, it is a fixer-upper, to put it mildly, one that appeals to a small and idiosyncratic cut of potential buyers (one of whom has already signed a contract, placing it off the market for the moment). At the height of the Cold War, the site had been the home of an Atlas-F missile, an intercontinental ballistic weapon with a warhead over 100 times more powerful than the atomic bomb dropped on Nagasaki in World War II. The missile was taken out of service after just a few years, and left behind was a subterranean lair worthy of a Bond villain, burrowing 10 stories down and capable of withstanding a nuclear blast.

Over the years the site has become dilapidated, showing damage from the time it was left unattended and became a hangout for teenagers and a source for vandals scavenging for scrap.

Still, in his listing for the site (price: $295,000), Mr. Moore described it as having “lots of potential uses.” Would-be buyers agree, and have come to him with all kinds of ambitious ideas: Marijuana growers and hydroponic gardeners looking for a secure farm, the owner of a document storage company who proposed turning the silo into a cylindrical archive, starting at the bottom and working his way up. And there have been plenty of what he called “doomsday types,” looking for a virtually impenetrable bunker for when things above ground turn sour.

“I’ve had a lot of calls, a lot of promises,” said Mr. Moore, 67, noting he has had more than a half-dozen people express serious interest only to not follow through. “They’d love to have it, but it seems like they lack the money.”

Roswell, a city of 48,000, has a reputation that extends far beyond southeastern New Mexico, known for the extraterrestrials that the government insists did not land here but nonetheless took over, populating the shelves of downtown shops and the signs of fast-food joints.

It was the city’s isolation — locals say it is a good 200-mile drive to get almost anywhere else — and its proximity to an old Air Force base, closed in 1967, that attracted the military to build the dozen missile sites, including this one, that ring Roswell. In all, 72 Atlas-F missile sites were built, scattered in mostly remote locations around the country, close to Air Force bases that could supply them with forces.

The military designed the missiles and the bunkers that housed them with the utmost urgency, working at a moment when the concern over national security was so severe that it bordered on panic, said Gretchen Heefner, a history professor at Northeastern University in Boston and author of the book “The Missile Next Door.”

“They had no doubt that this could be it,” she said. “This was what the Cold War was going to hinge on.”

With doors weighing thousands of pounds and yards-thick walls of concrete and steel, the silos that were constructed to house these missiles were not going away.

“In reality, these structures, the way they were built, will last well over 1,000 years,” said Larry Hall, a developer who has worked with the sites, comparing them to fortified European castles.

In the years after the sites were decommissioned and sold off to private owners, plenty fell into disrepair, and some filled with water. Still, they became coveted by a certain set wanting to prepare for whatever disaster might come.

“If these were engineered to withstand a nuclear strike, there’s protection from hurricanes, tornadoes, radiation,” Mr. Hall said. “It’s the one-size-fits-all appeal.”

Mr. Hall transformed one silo in Kansas into luxury “survival condos,” with a pool and spa, theater, shooting range, rock-climbing wall, dog park and five different power sources. Also on hand is hydroponic food, biometric locks and a minor surgery center should residents need to ride out an apocalypse. (The site is designed to sustain 70 people for at least five years.)

He has sold all 12 units in his first project, with 1,800-square-foot units starting at $3 million. A second project, he said, is about half sold. “It’s a safe haven in the storm,” he said. “If I don’t need it, my kids might need it.”

In Roswell, Mr. Moore has found a buyer, and the deal is scheduled to close this month. He could not disclose the buyer’s identity, but he did say the offer was close to the asking price.

The site has passed through various owners since it was deactivated in 1965, and Mr. Moore described the most recent one, who died last year, as your “typical Einstein” — a brilliant but eccentric man, a microwave antenna designer who bought the silo in the 1990s with the idea of turning it into a home.

While living for years in the trailer parked on top, he got only as far as restoring the electrical wiring and getting started on putting in the septic system before he fell ill and moved to a nursing home. (He was, however, able to make money by selling water, using the 280 acre feet of water rights that came with the property.)

There is still plenty of work left to be done: A fuel container tipped over at some point, filling the silo with overpowering fumes. Anything of value that could be stripped and carried out is gone. The floors are covered in debris, and the walls are tagged with Cold War-era hieroglyphics declaring young love, warning of “nuclear assault” and offering proof that, yes, Frank has been here.

Those issues, Mr. Moore said, were mostly aesthetic. The infrastructure of the silo was still as sturdy as it was a half-century ago. “You don’t see one crack anywhere,” he said.

Sure, it might be his job to sing the virtues of the site. But he confessed that he did not share the fascination of all the people who have called him in recent weeks. He is not a survivalist type, he said. And being stuck underground in the dark ranked as his worst nightmare.

When the apocalypse he has been hearing so much about arrives, Mr. Moore said, he is going to do exactly what he is doing now, as he climbs up the stairs and out of the bunker: Head eagerly toward the light.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/15/us/roswell-new-mexico-missile-silo-for-sale.html
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Postby stefano » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:23 am

Really good longform bit in the New Yorker:

Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich
Some of the wealthiest people in America—in Silicon Valley, New York, and beyond—are getting ready for the crackup of civilization.
By Evan Osnos

In private Facebook groups, wealthy survivalists swap tips on gas masks, bunkers, and locations safe from the effects of climate change. One member, the head of an investment firm, told me, “I keep a helicopter gassed up all the time, and I have an underground bunker with an air-filtration system.” He said that his preparations probably put him at the “extreme” end among his peers. But he added, “A lot of my friends do the guns and the motorcycles and the gold coins. That’s not too rare anymore.”


Highly recommended. Some interesting photos by Dan Winters, though I don't like that super-contrasted style. Very fashionable right now.

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The living room of an apartment at the Survival Condo Project.

That 'window' is a screen showing video - there are no windows. You can order your own video to play on the screen.
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Postby Blue » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:54 am

stefano wrote:
In private Facebook groups, wealthy survivalists swap tips on gas masks, bunkers, and locations safe from the effects of climate change. One member, the head of an investment firm, told me, “I keep a helicopter gassed up all the time, and I have an underground bunker with an air-filtration system.” He said that his preparations probably put him at the “extreme” end among his peers. But he added, “A lot of my friends do the guns and the motorcycles and the gold coins. That’s not too rare anymore.”


Dumb. He thinks the big wave is going to come and he'll just dash up to the pad? And what's he going to eat? His tinned caviar and peaches will run out sooner than he thinks. Gold coins will be useful in the short term. Bikes? Not so much. The apocalooza entertainment world has eaten humanity's brains.
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Postby PufPuf93 » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:05 am

NeonLX » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:59 am wrote:Reminds me of Philip K Dick's "The Penultimate Truth", but the 1% lived above ground while the rest of the population toiled in underground factories.


I was thinking of that very book when I got to your post.

One difference is that in Dick's book the "elite" were living freely in essentially a park on the uncrowded surface waging faux war to broadcast to the plebs in the bunkers manufacturing munitions unknowingly for their own entertainment.

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Postby Luther Blissett » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:57 pm

These poor fucks didn't get the invite to Mount Weather or Raven Rock or whatever new thing they've come up with in the past 16 years?


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Postby Cordelia » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:30 pm

stefano » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:23 am wrote:Really good longform bit in the New Yorker:

Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich
Some of the wealthiest people in America—in Silicon Valley, New York, and beyond—are getting ready for the crackup of civilization.
By Evan Osnos

In private Facebook groups, wealthy survivalists swap tips on gas masks, bunkers, and locations safe from the effects of climate change. One member, the head of an investment firm, told me, “I keep a helicopter gassed up all the time, and I have an underground bunker with an air-filtration system.” He said that his preparations probably put him at the “extreme” end among his peers. But he added, “A lot of my friends do the guns and the motorcycles and the gold coins. That’s not too rare anymore.”


Highly recommended. Some interesting photos by Dan Winters, though I don't like that super-contrasted style. Very fashionable right now.
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Evan Osnos is being interviewed by Terry Gross today on ' Fresh Air'.
http://www.npr.org/podcasts/381444908/fresh-air
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Postby brekin » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:27 pm

I don't know, living in an abandoned nuclear missile silo seems like not the smartest place to hole up for the apocalypse.
Launching a nuclear or large weapons tactical strike would seem to target some of a countries nuclear weaponry. Outdated maps, hit all targets just to be sure, etc. seems to be an issue worth considering.
Just because the silo has been decommissioned doesn't mean that is represented such in a foreign country, or if so, is even believed.

Also, even if knows as non-military these sites would be very attractive for invading military or domestic heavily armed groups who would be trained and inclined to smoke out those who don't have the capability or numbers to guard air vents, etc. I would imagine some authority keeps tabs on sites like these and if the shit should hit the fan, I think many of these would "change owners" in short order and be "under new management". Even ones own native army may say in a conflict, "Hey, nice digs, we are going to have to commandeer it for national defense purposes."
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Re: Underground Bunker Condos 1% Plan to Ride Out Apocalypse

Postby stefano » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:41 pm

Oh, yeah, I agree all these preppers have got it the wrong way around. That silo condo thing is pretty heavily armed, so probably safe from outside forces, but the rich inside will be utterly at the mercy of the armed guards. Probably unwise.

The idea of a little patch of land somewhere that you're going to defend doesn't work, either. Don't remember where I saw it but I once read a very good piece by someone who'd lived through the German occupation of Poland (perhaps - certainly in Eastern Europe) as a rural teenager, who saw well-off city-dwellers flee the war and come hole up in their weekend houses. Long story short - the country people stole everything they had, if they were lucky. If they weren't, German soldiers came across them far from their commanding officers and other civilian witnesses and killed them.

The New Yorker piece does make it clear that quite a few of these super-rich understand that they'd be better off improving social safety nets, so there's that. Quite perverse how they talk about it not as the right thing to do, or something good, but as the most cost-effective way to preserve their privilege.

TSHTF won't look like these people think, though. As others have pointed out, it'll look like the DRC or Somalia - certainly there's violence, but it's not everywhere, and the division of labour and trade and so on persist. And cities tend to remain the best places to be. JM Greer's very good on collapse, I recommend The Long Descent if you're in the market for a bit of clever futures thinking.
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