Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Jan 11, 2015 3:49 pm

Hunter » Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:26 pm wrote:You would think they would have better things to do than address ridiculous conspiracy theories on the front page.


Unless of course...


Yeah, well, that`s why I was so amazed to see that front page, especially within a week of the attack. It is not the normal style of the FAZ, or of any other German paper, to lend such prominent publicity to "conspiracy theories", and for no good reason to boot. NB, there have no mass demonstrations (or any demonstrations of any size) by "conspiracy theorists" in Germany (whether "Muslim" or not) since the Paris attack. No letter-writing campaigns either, nothing of the sort. The Frankfurt-based FAZ made a point of going out looking for those ordinary working-class people in Berlin, ferreting out their opinions and then printing them on the front page (the FAZ is also not normally distinguished by a burning interest in the views of immigrants and working people).

There are some serious tensions bubbling under the surface between Germany and the US right now. The sanctions against Russia are costing German industry dear, and various people on the non-lunatic right are worried about where that will all lead (they are not keen on the idea of war with Russia, whether cold or hot). So it`s not beyond the realms of possibility that the main intended recipient of that surprising FAZ front page was the government of the USA.
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby Hunter » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:00 pm

Check out Naomi Wolf FB page, she is making some good points about all these heads of state gathering in the same place today in France and how it would take weeks of planning by security services to make that happen, and yet here they all are in just FOUR DAYS!

The picture of them all together is just WEIRD the whole thing gives me a VERY uneasy feeling.

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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby Hunter » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:01 pm

Also notable, NO OBAMA.
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:04 pm

OK...shit's about to get really interesting.

The Hacker group Anonymous 'declare war on jihadists' after Charlie Hebdo massacre by pledging to target terrorists on social media
The hacking group have condemned the Paris massacre which killed 12
Anonymous has now released a video 'declaring war' against terrorists
Pledged to close jihadi social network accounts to avenge those murdered


ByHannah Parry For Mailonline

Published: 12:34 EST, 10 January 2015

Hacking group Anonymous has 'declared war on jihadists' in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo massacre in Paris.

Authorities targeting extremists may have found an unlikely ally in the group in the battle against terrorism after the activists released a video condemning the gun attack at the satirical magazine which left 12 people dead.

In the clip, which was uploaded to the group's Belgian YouTube account, a figure wearing the group's Guy Fawkes mask and a hood says in French in an electronically-distorted voice: 'We are declaring war against you, the terrorists.'

Hacking group Anonymous has 'declared war on jihadists' in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo massacre in Paris.

Authorities targeting extremists may have found an unlikely ally in the group in the battle against terrorism after the activists released a video condemning the gun attack at the satirical magazine which left 12 people dead.

In the clip, which was uploaded to the group's Belgian YouTube account, a figure wearing the group's Guy Fawkes mask and a hood says in French in an electronically-distorted voice: 'We are declaring war against you, the terrorists.'

Sitting at a desk and reading from a piece of paper, the figure says the group will track down and close all accounts on social networks related to terrorists to avenge those killed.

The hashtag #OpChalieHebdo - presumably meaning Operation Charlie Hebdo - also appears on screen.

The group also reportedly published a statement on text-sharing website Pastebin, entitled 'Message to the enemies of freedom of expression'.

In it they wrote: 'Freedom of expression has suffered inhuman assault ... It is our duty to react ... We wish to express our condolences to the families of the victims of this cowardly and despicable act.'

They added: 'We will fight always and everywhere the enemies of freedom of expression ... Freedom of expression and opinion is a non-negotiable thing. To tackle it is to attack democracy.

'Expect a massive frontal reaction from us because the struggle for the defense of those freedoms is the foundation of our movement.'

Anonymous has previously carried out cyber attacks on websites belonging to the Government, as well as those of corporate and religious organisations.

In 2012 Anonymous crippled the Home Office's website by flooding it with huge amounts of internet traffic.


THE ELUSIVE HACKING GROUP ANONYMOUS

Hacker group Anonymous has been linked to online attacks around the world aimed at punishing governments for policies of which the hackers disapprove.

Members are known as 'Anons' and are distinguished by their Guy Fawkes masks.

The group are seen as anything from digital Robin Hoods to cyber terrorists for their hacking campaigns against government agencies, child pornography sites and the Klu Klux Klan.

In 2008 the online community staged a series of protests, pranks, and hacks Church of Scientology as part if its 'Project Chanology.'

Later targets of Anonymous 'hacktivism' included government agencies of the US, Israel, Tunisia, Uganda, and others, copyright protection agencies; the Westboro Baptist Church; and corporations such as PayPal, MasterCard, Visa, and Sony.

In 2013 they declared war on secretive 'chat sites' used by paedophiles to trade images.

Last November they hacked into the Twitter account of the Ku Klux Klan after the white supremacist group distributed flyers threatening 'lethal force' protesters in Ferguson.

Dozens of people have been arrested for involvement in Anonymous cyberattacks, in countries including the US, UK, Australia, the Netherlands, Spain, and Turkey.
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:06 pm

FFS. This is why I am not Charlie. Because look's who's all Charlie.
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby Hunter » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:08 pm

Netanyahu giving a speech in France just called for all European Jews to return to Israel.


What in the hell are these no good bastards up to, this sounds like they are planning another world war and calling everyone home.
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:09 pm

Imagine marching behind Netanjahu against barbaric violence.

Imagine marching behind Cameron in defence of our shared values.

Hunter wrote:Also notable, NO OBAMA.


That's cuz he's a Muslim.

Seriously, though, he is conspicuous by his absence in that ghouls' gallery.

Where's that other Nobel Peace Laureate, Henry Kissinger? Because he should be told that satire is not dead after all, merely undead.
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby Hunter » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:10 pm

This doesnt sound good folks, it sounds a little urgent for my liking.

Netanyahu, Israeli daily Haaretz reported, is setting up a “special ministerial committee” that “will convene next week to discuss steps to encourage immigration from France and from Europe in general.”
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Postby RocketMan » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:11 pm

What caught my eye was the WORLD LEADER from Mali marching there. Token black guy? Hasn't Mali been acting as some sort of factotum for western interests in the UN?
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby Hunter » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:12 pm

MacCruiskeen » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:09 pm wrote:Imagine marching behind Netanjahu against barbaric violence.

Imagine marching behind Cameron in defence of our shared values.

Hunter wrote:Also notable, NO OBAMA.


That's cuz he's a Muslim.

SURREAL my friend, surreal.
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby Hunter » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:18 pm

He is either calling Jews home to Israel because there is a war being planned or they want that new real estate settled quickly, I cant figure out which but it is no small matter that he just stood up there and told all the Jewish people that they need to return to Israel.
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:23 pm

Assange on Charlie Hebdo: A Conspicuous Failure

Published 10 January 2015 (21 hours 23 minutes ago)


An online post, apparently by Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, asks if there were links between the Charlie Hebdo killers and the government that could have led to their protection until now.
Wikileaks published a text Saturday that appears to be written by its founder, Julian Assange, which says the failure of the French authorities in the Charlie Hebdo massacre is so conspicuous, that questions about government links to the killers must be asked.

Ostensibly replying to criticisms from British journalist Max Hastings in the right-wing Daily Mail newspaper, in which he places blame on Assange and U.S. intelligence whistle-blower Edward Snowden for the terror attacks in France over the past week, the post (reproduced below in full), neatly dismisses Hastings, before going on to ask the bigger questions.

Among the author’s questions are: Why weren’t the Kouachi brothers, both known to have extremist ties, not under surveillance?; Why were the Charlie Hebdo offices not better protected, given that the magazine regularly and strongly criticizes Islam?; and just how did two known terrorists get hold of semi-automatic weapons?

“Cherif Kouachi, had already been convicted of terrorism offences and served 18 months in prison for it. Both brothers were already on terrorism lists. Far from hiding messages under rocks or using encryption, the alleged conspirators communicated hundreds of times before and during the attacks — on regular phones.”

Targeted surveillance, not mass surveillance is needed in these instances, the post continues. Mass surveillance in France has “thieved skilled human and financial resources from targeted monitoring of obvious,” which the author says would have been the front of the Charlie Hebdo offices and the known terrorist brothers.

As for the British journalist, the post, signed only with the word ASSANGE, slams Hastings’ opinion. Hastings says that by releasing classified information, Assange and Snowden have put populations at risk from “jihadis and Al Qaeda, our mortal enemies.”

Assange writes back to Hastings, “Secrecy breeds corruption, but it also breeds incompetence and the French secret service are no exception to this rule.”

#Assange and #Snowden are not to blame for Paris bloodbath.

Sat Jan 10 18:19:36 UTC 2015

In today’s Daily Mail, “Sir” Max “I have always loved Israel” Hastings claimed that me and Mr. Snowden are responsible for the bloodbath in Paris: “Traitors… Assange and Snowden have damaged the security of each and every one of us, by alerting the jihadis and Al Qaeda, our mortal enemies, to the scale and reach of electronic eavesdropping”. That a state security vampire like Hastings has pounced on the still warm corpses strewn about Paris is as grotesque as it is predictable.

Secrecy breeds corruption, but it also breeds incompetence and the French secret services are no exception to this rule. Currently the French security state has tried to present the killers as super villains in order to hide its own incompetence — something the media has been only too willing to aid and abet. The reality is the Charlie Hebdo killers were bumbling Keystone terrorists, no-hopers, who crashed their car, left their ID, co-ordinated over the phone and swiftly died. To lose nearly two dozen people to them is unforgivable.

That double digits were killed is no mark of super powers. A single idiot can do it. In Australia’s Port Arthur massacre, a man with the IQ of 66, literally an idiot, shot 58 people over the course of several hours—because he was armed with an AR-10 semi-automatic and his victims were not.

The tragedy in Paris is another example of where competent targeted surveillance, not mass surveillance, was needed.

The attackers were well known jihadis. This is not a case of needing to collect a global interception haystack in order to find a needle. The alleged needle in question, Cherif Kouachi, had already been convicted of terrorism offences and served 18 months in prison for it. Both brothers were already on terrorism lists. Far from hiding messages under rocks or using encryption, the alleged conspirators communicated hundreds of times before and during the attacks — on regular phones. The offices of Charlie Hebdo had received many death threats and had been firebombed in 2011 a week after publishing cartoons of the prophet Muhammad. The French mass surveillance system is already one of the most pervasive; its primary purpose, like all such systems, is geopolitics.

Mass surveillance addiction doesn’t come for free. In France it thieved skilled human and financial resources from targeted monitoring of obvious—the front of the Charlie Hebdo building and people walking out of prison with a terrorism conviction in one hand and numerous jihadi contacts in the other.

Yesterday French Prime Minister Manuel Valls said “There was a failing, of course” on French television, “That’s why we have to analyse what happened.”. Valls is right, Hastings is not.

So conspicuous is the failure in the Charlie Hebdo killings that serious questions must be asked. Cherif Kouachi had previously been involved in furthering the Sunni insurgency in the Levant. Were the brothers protected by the French services as part of French adventurism in Syria, Libya and elsewhere—as a conduit to funnel money, guns and militants into Africa and the Middle East? Were the brothers protected because they were witting or unwitting informers? Were the brothers protected in order to conduct a mediagenic, budget-boosting arrest seconds before the attack began — but the attack was moved forward? Why was the security architecture of the Charlie Hebdo building so poor? How is it that semi-automatic weapons found their way into France and into the hands of known jihadis? And most of all why has France’s crazed Sunni adventurism in Syria, Libya and other parts of Africa been tolerated despite the inevitable destabalization, radicalization and blowback? https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/16/1 ... rawal.html

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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:23 pm

Hunter » Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:00 pm wrote:Check out Naomi Wolf FB page, she is making some good points about all these heads of state gathering in the same place today in France and how it would take weeks of planning by security services to make that happen, and yet here they all are in just FOUR DAYS!

The picture of them all together is just WEIRD the whole thing gives me a VERY uneasy feeling.

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I guess that's what it is, seeing the composition of that photo, it's like the anti-V for Vendetta march. What might they chant at a march like that? "What do we want? Everything! When do we want it? In Perpetuity!"

So to have that, then have Anonymous, who ordinarily put their focus on the powers fueling those puppets in the picture, throw their hat in the ring, just made my jaw drop and go HO-LEE FUCK, what do we have in store for us this year?!
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby Hunter » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:26 pm

MacCruiskeen » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:06 pm wrote:FFS. This is why I am not Charlie. Because look's who's all Charlie.

Yea this whole this is just starting to smell really rotten, staged, manufactured and planned, there is nothing organic about any of this.
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby Hunter » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:31 pm

stillrobertpaulsen » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:23 pm wrote:
Hunter » Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:00 pm wrote:Check out Naomi Wolf FB page, she is making some good points about all these heads of state gathering in the same place today in France and how it would take weeks of planning by security services to make that happen, and yet here they all are in just FOUR DAYS!

The picture of them all together is just WEIRD the whole thing gives me a VERY uneasy feeling.

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I guess that's what it is, seeing the composition of that photo, it's like the anti-V for Vendetta march. What might they chant at a march like that? "What do we want? Everything! When do we want it? In Perpetuity!"

So to have that, then have Anonymous, who ordinarily put their focus on the powers fueling those puppets in the picture, throw their hat in the ring, just made my jaw drop and go HO-LEE FUCK, what do we have in store for us this year?!

Never a boring moment with these bastards, I cant even begin to imagine all the bad shit they have planned. Anon is infiltrated in full, you cant believe anything about that shit anymore, it was just a week ago they were tying anons WITH jihadis saying the guy in ISIS beheading videos was well known anon community leader, NOW THIS seriously WTF.
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