Jeffrey Alan Lash

[km artlu]

Thanks Hunter. The only google hits I saw on Reno Ash were of a porn star.

"if one of the big letter agencies are involved why did they allow the media and public to get a whiff of this"

My answer to that is that as scary as such agencies may appear to be, they are comprised of humans and humans are fallible. People make mistakes, and that's my take on why this became partially visible, and why attempts to scrub it, disinfo it, and ignore it are in evidence.

They are not omniscient. They are not omnipotent.

[Luther Blissett]

Thanks websleuths, thanks ConnectZDots:
http://palisadesnews.com/wp-content/upl ... 5-2015.pdf

Catherine Nebron Gorin’s lawyer, Harland Braun, said they were looking for a will, but “Lash was one of these guys who never thought he would die.”

Gorin had been working with Lash for 17 years; the business was out of her town- house. Braun was asked, “Where did she think the money coming from?”

“She thought he was doing secret work for the government,” Braun said, and by helping Lash, “she was helping the country, doing patriotic work.”

Lash is survived by six first cousins, who are represented by the Law Offices of Daniel Brookman, a long-time Santa Monica attorney. Brookman was a long-time ac- quaintance of Lash’s father, Joseph Jerry, who passed away in 2010.

So this leonard guy is still spreading the idea he had roylties, how is it that these people know about all this money he got from his father but the fathers own wife knows nothing about any of it?

Yeah. Somebody on websleuths vouched for Leonard as being a quality investigative journalist, but he's still basing his information on two personal meetings many years apart. Even if he is being truthful, there's still a chance that Lash lied to him.

I think he's beingg put forward just because his thesis is the super-safe one.

[Hunter]

Thanks Hunter. The only google hits I saw on Reno Ash were of a porn star.

"if one of the big letter agencies are involved why did they allow the media and public to get a whiff of this"

My answer to that is that as scary as such agencies may appear to be, they are comprised of humans and humans are fallible. People make mistakes, and that's my take on why this became partially visible, and why attempts to scrub it, disinfo it, and ignore it are in evidence.

They are not omniscient. They are not omnipotent.

Yea from what I gather Reno Ash is the instragram handle of that Paul Aguilar property manager busy body. The way he acts and carries himself he may in fact be dabbling in porn. He is a younger guy driving a pretty expensive Audi R8 and all we know about him is he was the on site property manager of that condo unit Jocelyn and Lash shared. I believe Websleuths is the one who dug up his alias Reno Ash but for our purposes he is Paul Aguilar.


Go back to a few of Luthers comments, he links to the instragram of this guy and explains the Reno thing.


He is important because he is the one who intriduced us to Skinny Bob the cancer stricken ex cia guy who drove without plates and freaked out when he ran in to a car and begged them not to call police or insurance, showing up the next day to pay everyone off in cash to get theirs cars fixed. IMO he is a plant of some sort, the company he works for is a property managment company but I looked on their website and called them and there is no Paul Aguilar working for them as far as they know, also, their RE license strangly expired the day after Lash died, which I find to be odd but par for the course on this case because EVERYTHING is fucking ODD.

[Hunter]

Thanks websleuths, thanks ConnectZDots:
http://palisadesnews.com/wp-content/upl ... 5-2015.pdf

Catherine Nebron Gorin’s lawyer, Harland Braun, said they were looking for a will, but “Lash was one of these guys who never thought he would die.”

Gorin had been working with Lash for 17 years; the business was out of her town- house. Braun was asked, “Where did she think the money coming from?”

“She thought he was doing secret work for the government,” Braun said, and by helping Lash, “she was helping the country, doing patriotic work.”

Lash is survived by six first cousins, who are represented by the Law Offices of Daniel Brookman, a long-time Santa Monica attorney. Brookman was a long-time ac- quaintance of Lash’s father, Joseph Jerry, who passed away in 2010.

So this leonard guy is still spreading the idea he had roylties, how is it that these people know about all this money he got from his father but the fathers own wife knows nothing about any of it?

Yeah. Somebody on websleuths vouched for Leonard as being a quality investigative journalist, but he's still basing his information on two personal meetings many years apart. Even if he is being truthful, there's still a chance that Lash lied to him.

I think he's beingg put forward just because his thesis is the super-safe one.

I havent not had a chance to read the WS thread, are they acknowledging conspiricies and deep state black budget stuff yet, back when I was there that was frowned on and would get you laughed out of there and/or shunned by the regulars. They have always been pretty good researchers when it comes to the stuff on the surface but many of them didnt appreciate those of us who wanted to look behind the curtain and dig a little deeper.

[Luther Blissett]

Thanks websleuths, thanks ConnectZDots:
http://palisadesnews.com/wp-content/upl ... 5-2015.pdf

Catherine Nebron Gorin’s lawyer, Harland Braun, said they were looking for a will, but “Lash was one of these guys who never thought he would die.”

Gorin had been working with Lash for 17 years; the business was out of her town- house. Braun was asked, “Where did she think the money coming from?”

“She thought he was doing secret work for the government,” Braun said, and by helping Lash, “she was helping the country, doing patriotic work.”

Lash is survived by six first cousins, who are represented by the Law Offices of Daniel Brookman, a long-time Santa Monica attorney. Brookman was a long-time ac- quaintance of Lash’s father, Joseph Jerry, who passed away in 2010.

So this leonard guy is still spreading the idea he had roylties, how is it that these people know about all this money he got from his father but the fathers own wife knows nothing about any of it?

Yeah. Somebody on websleuths vouched for Leonard as being a quality investigative journalist, but he's still basing his information on two personal meetings many years apart. Even if he is being truthful, there's still a chance that Lash lied to him.

I think he's beingg put forward just because his thesis is the super-safe one.

I havent not had a chance to read the WS thread, are they acknowledging conspiries and deep state black budget stuff yet, back when I was there that was frowned on and would get out laughed out of there and/or shunned by the regulars.

The best way I can describe it is that they're quietly dismissive of it. The Guam angle is gone and your Jolly West angle got only a little bit of confused play. Not a lot of independent deep state mentions.

[Hunter]

I also agree the whole thing could be a clusterfuck of an op that went wrong, not only are these people human but generally the govt and those who work for it are usually pretty fucking incompetent so it probably shouldnt be a shock to me that they may havye dropped the ball on this one somehow as they seem to do that often enough but continue to get away with it anyway not because they are smart but because they have more money and guns than we go.

[Hunter]

I also agree the whole thing could be a clusterfuck of an op that went wrong, not only are these people human but generally the govt and those who work for it are usually pretty fucking incompetent so it probably shouldnt be a shock to me that they may have dropped the ball on this one somehow as they seem to do that often enough but continue to get away with it anyway not because they are smart but because they have more money and guns than we do.

[Hunter]

Thanks websleuths, thanks ConnectZDots:
http://palisadesnews.com/wp-content/upl ... 5-2015.pdf

Catherine Nebron Gorin’s lawyer, Harland Braun, said they were looking for a will, but “Lash was one of these guys who never thought he would die.”

Gorin had been working with Lash for 17 years; the business was out of her town- house. Braun was asked, “Where did she think the money coming from?”

“She thought he was doing secret work for the government,” Braun said, and by helping Lash, “she was helping the country, doing patriotic work.”

Lash is survived by six first cousins, who are represented by the Law Offices of Daniel Brookman, a long-time Santa Monica attorney. Brookman was a long-time ac- quaintance of Lash’s father, Joseph Jerry, who passed away in 2010.

So this leonard guy is still spreading the idea he had roylties, how is it that these people know about all this money he got from his father but the fathers own wife knows nothing about any of it?

Yeah. Somebody on websleuths vouched for Leonard as being a quality investigative journalist, but he's still basing his information on two personal meetings many years apart. Even if he is being truthful, there's still a chance that Lash lied to him.

I think he's beingg put forward just because his thesis is the super-safe one.

I havent not had a chance to read the WS thread, are they acknowledging conspiries and deep state black budget stuff yet, back when I was there that was frowned on and would get out laughed out of there and/or shunned by the regulars.

The best way I can describe it is that they're quietly dismissive of it. The Guam angle is gone and your Jolly West angle got only a little bit of confused play. Not a lot of independent deep state mentions.

Yea same old WS I always knew, not to be a misogynist asshole or paint with a broad brush but the demographics of WS from my many years there getting to know them all pretty well are mostly mid aged housewives who love Nancy Grace, so its probably too much to expect they would appreciate things like NLP, MK Ultra and Dr West and instead would much rather cling to the idea that he was just some paranoid guy living off royalties, I did see that ConectZdots person was pretty open to anything, there are a few good ones over there. I posted over there for years and was one of the leading reseachers on that site for the Long Island Serial Killer case in which 10-20 CL escorts has been killed and buried along the beaches there. Interestingly a guy was just killed in WV this week by an escort who he was trying to strangle, she grabbed his gun and shot him and police found axes, shovels and bleach in his car and have begun to tie him to the murders of severl other escorts all across the nation possibly including Long Island. Standing by on that one.

[Searcher08]

I joined websleuths for the Elisa Lam case and came away thinking that forums are poor structures for mapping out this kind of research - there was a huge amount of repetition and 'churn' .
In the Lash case, just one thought - who or what were these guns for ???.

[Luther Blissett]

Good work these last few pages folks.

Who is Reno Ash purported to be? I must have missed earlier mentions.

Pulling back the focus a bit, I'm now asking myself what the possible purposes(s) of the weapons and ammo stash might be. That video above made a reference to some of the vehicles being "combat ready". First reference to that I've encountered.

But staying with only the weapons, ammo, and cash - that combined stash represents a lot of detailed and sustained activity. I think we can eliminate it having been a frivolous pursuit. So intent of some sort is strongly implied.

The evidence of high-level, possibly NSA, scrubbing of at least the street view may indicate that the purpose of the cache was sanctioned from the top down.

The visible diversity of the weaponry may be a clue as to its intended purpose. I wonder if there's a corresponding diversity of the ammo? The diversity isn't consistent with military or paramilitary deployment, for obvious reasons.

From the beginning, musing on that question has always brought me to one most likely scenario. Was the cache on hold for a future situation in which having the local population more thoroughly armed would be desirable? Or certain elements of the local population?

If the weapons and ammo were all standard military issue, dots could be more easily connected in the aftermath of whatever the fuck it is those lovely people have in mind for us. Were the registrations to Lash simultaneously scrubbed as a part of the op, then the source of all that firepower would remain unknown.

Thoughts on this anyone?

I think "certain elements of the local population" might be my biggest running thesis right now. I'm still definitely entertaining everything, especially because I don't really know what any agency's play would be. I just have a hunch that it might be something we haven't seen debated in media, portrayed in fiction or entertainment, or even researched here. But I feel like there was a possible destabilization op.

I don't think I can answer any specific questions about guns or ammunition because I have no idea about it, but websleuths uncovered some information about the boxes of ten-year old palmpilots seen in this photo on the bottom left: they could be used to hack wireless networks. This starts around page 26 of their thread from poster marble.

Yeah, Reno Ash is probably Paul Aguilar's alias. After checking I was fairly convinced. It's worthwhile to reiterate that Aguilar's quote was that he "saw the news and recognized Skinny Bob right away." Except no news ever showed an image of Lash, especially not at that time, and especially not a clear shot. The whole thing with Aguilar's description of him, of "Jocelyn," of any roommate at all, of that neighborhood on Coastline Drive in Sunset Mesa, everything other than that black truck (maybe) might all be a fabrication or misdirection.

I did see a few mentions of Lash's vehicles being "combat ready."

[Luther Blissett]

I also agree the whole thing could be a clusterfuck of an op that went wrong, not only are these people human but generally the govt and those who work for it are usually pretty fucking incompetent so it probably shouldnt be a shock to me that they may havye dropped the ball on this one somehow as they seem to do that often enough but continue to get away with it anyway not because they are smart but because they have more money and guns than we go.

There's also the chance, and I can't help but lean this way, that this operation went exactly according to plan. I recognize that this bias has been informing my research but I still feel pretty open to conflicting information.

However, that scenario is one of the most frightening. What would that mean, if this operation has been executed perfectly?

[Hunter]

I also agree the whole thing could be a clusterfuck of an op that went wrong, not only are these people human but generally the govt and those who work for it are usually pretty fucking incompetent so it probably shouldnt be a shock to me that they may havye dropped the ball on this one somehow as they seem to do that often enough but continue to get away with it anyway not because they are smart but because they have more money and guns than we go.

There's also the chance, and I can't help but lean this way, that this operation went exactly according to plan. I recognize that this bias has been informing my research but I still feel pretty open to conflicting information.

However, that scenario is one of the most frightening. What would that mean, if this operation has been executed perfectly?

Yes that is possible, but what is your theory then as to what the operation is in that case. What would be the objective here?

[Hunter]

The most obvious explanation imo is, he was running an op of some sort involving guns and he simply died and did not have a close enough eye on him that anyone noticed quick enough to go in there and clean up, in this case, Nebron is not part of it and is telling the truth how it went down, she assumed they would come clean up the mess he made of her condo and she got out of their way, but they never showed up so she went to the police.

The question then turns to, why is Dawn still in hiding even from her family.

[Hunter]

It seems possible Dawn could be Lashs daughter, as far as I can tell she was told her parents were dead, maybe he had Nebron reach out to her to befriend her so he could get to know her in his last days and she is all freaked out about finding out who her real father is, this explains Currys belief that Dawn was given money, Lash set his daughter up nice. but that is a desperate reach for straws going down that road imo.


But Dawns exit from that marriage really makes me curious, seems she picked up and left real quick because she knew some op was about to go down that she part of and couldnt be tied down with Curry anymore.

[Ufologyangel]

Hey All. I'm new here.

I've been posting over at WebSleuths, but I'm not sure if that's the place for me. As you would gather from my user name, I'm a UFOlogist. 15 years in the study. (I'm also an abductee, but that's a whole other story).

At WS I was the one who discovered Lash's yearbook photos (although I choose not to join Classmates and get the high res. photos). My research also came up with the connection between Jerry Lash and Dr. Elmer Belt. During the 1947 congressional hearings on UNAmerican activities Mary Belt (Dr. Belt's wife) was one who was brought in and grilled for her associations with known communists. She was a member of several communist organizations. I'd be happy to repost my findings here, but I noticed someone has already cut and pasted it into this thread. As I've said over at WS again and again, I believe in the alien hybrid angle to this story. I also believe Lash's dad's association with Dr. Elmer Belt is the key to unlock this mystery.

I've been reading cross posts between WS and here and see there is some discussion about MKUltra. I think it's very interesting that Dr. Belt's nephew, Dr. Willard Goodwin (UCLA Urologist) was the life-long best friend of Robert McNamara, Secretary of Defense and President of Ford Motor Co. He was a big figure during the Project Blue Book years. He was so adamantly opposed to the UFO theory that he came across as though he were hiding something. I'm very interested to learn if we can tie Lash, Belt, Goodwin, or McNamara to MKUltra.

Thank you in advance for welcoming me. I'm hoping I've found a place where my efforts will not be dismissed so easily and where I can be of help to others.
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