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[guruilla]

Anyone familiar with this one? Maybe too loony-fringe for RI, but relevant to current discussion:

Is the First Lady actually the first, First Man?

This issue has mostly been that of only a few speculators until Joan Rivers brought it into the mainstream when she told the world that Barack is gay and Michelle is a transgender…she died from a relatively simple medical procedure not too long afterwards.

http://www.truthandaction.org/is-michel ... sgender/2/

[Cordelia]

I watched the first 2 part video a few months ago and ever since I've been trying to come to terms that I'm really a man (based on hand proportions). She also posted a video about Serena Williams.

I really hope it's true--it would be the most interesting & innovative part of their legacy. The First Male First Lady.

Didn't read about the Joan Rivers link.

[mentalgongfu2]

There is a blogger goes by the name lamecherry that supports this idea that Michelle is a male. I decline to link it as I find much of the content hateful, but a quick search will find it. Admittedly I have occasionally seen a worthwhile post there, but not often enough to assuage my concerns.

[semper occultus]

...similar stuff on the Icke Forum concerning current Home Secretary Theresa May....the apparent seriousness with which this was proposed seemed indicative of the forum's overall senescence but maybe its just an idea that's now abroad and on the look out for new landing places......

[Cordelia]

(For entertainment value only )

[justdrew]

http://idlewords.com/talks/what_happens_next_will_amaze_you.htm

[stefano]

http://idlewords.com/talks/what_happens_next_will_amaze_you.htm

Thanks, that's terrific. I hadn't thought about it before but of course there's an advertising bubble. So much like finance, with the coked-up red suspender wearing arseholes who move up the priestly hierarchy in relation to their ability to master the codes and spells and demeanours, and the broad agreement that it just makes sense that everyone should pay more for everything so that they can get rich, even though it's hard to explain the essential function of their jobs, as they currently are.

[guruilla]

Lloyd de Mause audio book, Origins of War in Child Abuse (10 hours): http://auticulture.com/wp-content/uploa ... ook_64.mp3

Not sure how long it will be available as it's a large file to keep archived. If link is dead later, PM me.

[divideandconquer]

Anyone familiar with this one? Maybe too loony-fringe for RI, but relevant to current discussion:

Is the First Lady actually the first, First Man?

This issue has mostly been that of only a few speculators until Joan Rivers brought it into the mainstream when she told the world that Barack is gay and Michelle is a transgender…she died from a relatively simple medical procedure not too long afterwards.

http://www.truthandaction.org/is-michel ... sgender/2/

The videos are bullshit, but what if Michelle is/was a man? At this point, nothing would surprise me, so let's say Michelle turns out to be transgender and/or male, cui bono? Would it provoke even more division--political, gender, racial, sexuality, etc--and further the transhuman agenda as discussed in the gender thread? Maybe move us closer to a genderless citizenry and workforce? Or cause an even bigger rift between the races? Not to mention, its effect on gay rights? The first black American president is gay and married to a man/transgender is sure to cause an uproar. Then there are those who believe there is a conspiracy to "emasculate the black male" that really started when white men put black men in chains hundreds of years ago.

According to Chappelle, white America loves to see feminized black males because they are far less threatening to white society than strong, proud black men. Black men in dresses make white people laugh; black men in black clothes wearing black berets scare them. The feminized black man is better received by mainstream America. Regardless, the ruling class has done everything in their power to disenfranchise black men after the civil rights era from ensuring their unemployment to propping up questionable role models that promote hyper-consumerism and false masculinity .

We have established that the black man in America has been emasculated, but that's just one piece of the puzzle. In the military, they break you down and build you back up as a soldier, Marine, etc. The same holds true for the creation of the sterile black man. The second phase in the creation of this sterile black man is feminization.

Through emasculation, a man's sense of manhood is distorted or destroyed entirely, leaving him open to all kinds of influences. He is a man physically, but emotionally and mentally he is lost. That's when "the powers that be" begin to feminize the black man. This lost black man is encouraged to adopt feminine qualities and thereby comes to resemble women emotionally and mentally and even physically in many cases.

The feminization of the black man is most evident in and propagated by music, movies, and television. Look at television shows like Real Housewives of Atlanta, America's Next Top Model, etc. We are bombarded with images of flamboyant, homosexual black men who not only are gay but who walk, talk, dress, and act like women. And if they're not feminine gays, they're unstable thugs.The emasculated black man is the product of hundreds of years of programming, indoctrination, and brainwashing. First they break us down, making us lose our sense of real masculinity, and then they try and build us back up as feminine or homosexual. Black men in the past, despite the adversity they faced, despite having their wives and children literally torn from their arms, still managed to remain masculine. Today, the black man is either a hyper-masculine thug or a feminine homosexual drag queen. Those in between exist, but they are rarely shown any love.

This may be politically incorrect on my part, and I'm not claiming it means anything, but I notice, as hyper-masculine as some black men--usually lower socioeconomic status-- appear, they do seem to embrace a more feminine style: lots of jewelry, flamboyant colors, etc. It's a strange contradiction but I've also noticed this trend amongst Italian and Hispanic men as well. I'm sure it mostly has to do with differentiating themselves from their WASP, as George Carlin says, "owners".

[tapitsbo]

Also interesting that Obama's plausible Indonesian background has been framed as a "tea party whackjob" idea.

It's certainly more believable that Michelle having been a man at one time - are there childhood photos of Michelle?

[divideandconquer]

I haven't seen any pictures of child or pregnant Michelle not that I believe she is a he. No matter what I'd still be rather shocked if that's the case. Although her body does appear slightly more masculine than feminine, especially the area between her neck and shoulders, her voice sounds very feminine and I believe she has brothers who are somewhere around 6' 8, so she comes from large stock.

However, in this image obsessed culture, why, IF it's true there are no photos, why not? And let's say that's because she was a he, how hard would it be for someone to photoshop child or pregnant Michelle? With access to the technology at their level, someone could easily pull that off. I know because I have fooled around in photoshop, and with my non-existent skills, pretty much, manufactured someone who did not exist that passed for someone real. It doesn't take much to fool the public.

And the video of Joan Rivers is strange. It doesn't appear as if she's trying to be funny. It appears as if she's weary of all the lies.

[semper occultus]

Maybe move us closer to a genderless citizenry and workforce?

......freakin' hell......that's literally the first time I even considered that....

[Wombaticus Rex]

I've met hundreds of black women who look much, much more masculine than Michelle Obama, who is, for the record, quite pretty to me.

I'm sure someone like Razib Khan could elucidate the genetics of that, and it's worth noting there's a few European strains who produce very "handsome" women (and equally pretty men!).

That said, the notion Michelle Obama is a man is fucking stupid and mostly coming from KKK circles with no capacity for dank memes.

[General Patton]

I've met hundreds of black women who look much, much more masculine than Michelle Obama, who is, for the record, quite pretty to me.

I'm sure someone like Razib Khan could elucidate the genetics of that, and it's worth noting there's a few European strains who produce very "handsome" women (and equally pretty men!).

That said, the notion Michelle Obama is a man is fucking stupid and mostly coming from KKK circles with no capacity for dank memes.

There's tens of thousands of photos from FLOTUS over the years. Inevitably you'll catch her making goofy faces or have a strange looking crease in her pants. But some intrepid internet voyeurs have spent so much time looking at Michelle's crotch that they've found photos where it appears she has not one, but two erect penises!



P.S. if she was actually trans she would never neglect the opportunity to exploit for it personal gain

[guruilla]

The Australian owner of a spiritual retreat in the Amazonian rainforest says she is devastated after a man was stabbed to death during a session in which members drank a hallucinogenic substance.

Canadian Joshua Stevens, 29, allegedly killed 26-year-old British man Unais Gomes after drinking the plant brew ayahuasca while staying at the retreat near the Peruvian jungle city of Iquitos.

"We are deeply shocked and saddened by what happened at our centre," said Tracie Thornberry, an Australian drug and alcohol counsellor who runs the Phoenix Ayahuasca retreat with her brother Mark Thornberry.


http://www.smh.com.au/world/australian- ... z3v6YmonGH