A hundred organized men on violent rampage in Stockholm.

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Postby jakell » Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:42 pm

tapitsbo » Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:22 pm wrote:Fascists way to the right of many players objected to here are already part of ruling coalitions in places like the Baltic where forced migration was enacted on a much more massive scale than at the present, back when the USSR was experimenting with it.

It would be clumsy to call a group like Islamic State fascist but they were certainly extremists and they got a lot of mileage out of smartphones. The technology doesn't seem to have hurt them.

I did read futurist tomes in the 1990s which suggested smartphones would make violence obsolete, though.

My personal prefernece would be de escalation in current conflict zones, something the former governments of those areas seemed quite capable of whatever their flaws...

Instead we get crocodile tears lamenting partition and polarization on behalf of the organizations which bankrolled war and devastation in the first place


Apparently they like the latest Playstation too and use it for communication whilst playing Call Of Duty. The recent 'Black Ops' version contains all sorts of the torture and stuff I am told.

I've mused in the past that these supposedly dastardly types view our sadistic horror films and see that sort of thing as representative of Western culture, and our protestations about it as hypocrisy.
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Re: A hundred organized men on violent rampage in Stockholm.

Postby American Dream » Mon Feb 15, 2016 6:53 pm

Who in their right mind would support such evil activity?


Manchester Police Hunt Meat Cleaver-Wielding Thugs Who Stormed Asian Family's Home To 'Kill Isis Scum'

Police are hunting a group of masked men who broke into an Asian family's home and reportedly screamed: "We are going to kill you, Isis scum."

Three men, armed with a gun, a meat cleaver and a knife, smashed their way into the property through the rear door on Wednesday night.

The men threatened and racially abused three of the occupants, but had their faces covered.

The incident, which happened on Fairbrook Drive in Salford, is being treated as a hate crime by police.

A long-standing Labour local councillor, John Warmisham, told Manchester Evening News: “This is an appalling incident and will not be tolerated in Salford.

“It appears it was purely a nasty racist attack – but at a level I have never heard of before.

“Apparently the family has been targeted for racial abuse before.”

"Officers attended and found that three men had smashed through the rear doors armed with a gun, a meat cleaver and a knife and threatened and racially abused the three occupants.

"No one was injured and nothing was stolen."

Detective Sergeant Ben Cottam from GMP's Salford Division added: "This was an incredibly distressing incident for the victims. We have specialist support officers working with them through this stressful time and we will try to establish what happened.

"This is being treated as a racially motivated hate crime."


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Postby Nordic » Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:31 pm

Video games are actually a clever way to communicate. When I realized my son was communicating with his friends that way, I had to wonder if the PTB was really monitoring that shit or not.
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Re: A hundred organized men on violent rampage in Stockholm.

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:37 pm

Nordic » 16 Feb 2016 09:31 wrote:Video games are actually a clever way to communicate. When I realized my son was communicating with his friends that way, I had to wonder if the PTB was really monitoring that shit or not.


Yeah. i've wondered that. is it more secure than wickr? (Is wickr even secure?) Probably if no one is actively listening.
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Re: A hundred organized men on violent rampage in Stockholm.

Postby Iamwhomiam » Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:39 pm

Apparently they like the latest Playstation too and use it for communication whilst playing Call Of Duty. The recent 'Black Ops' version contains all sorts of the torture and stuff I am told.


I'll ask my grandson tomorrow.

Every player's address and time spent online is recorded, be sure of it. And "they" can turn on your cameras and mics when you're not playing, or so I've been told.
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Re: A hundred organized men on violent rampage in Stockholm.

Postby jakell » Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:41 pm

..."Officers attended and found that three men had smashed through the rear doors armed with a gun, a meat cleaver and a knife and threatened and racially abused the three occupants.

"No one was injured and nothing was stolen."..



Bit strange. I'm trying to imagine how this dynamic scene suddenly ground to a halt, and picture the anticlimactic aftermath. Sort of begs for a punchline.

It sort of puts a lie to the saying.. " If there's a gun, a meat cleaver and a knife on the wall at the beginning of the play....."
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Re: A hundred organized men on violent rampage in Stockholm.

Postby Nordic » Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:45 pm

"Racially abused" is a strange term. Maybe it's one of those English/English vs American/English things but it sounds like they had their races abused. Like what is that? Sounds more like verbal abuse and nothing more? Maybe just threatened them with the weapons?
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Re: A hundred organized men on violent rampage in Stockholm.

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:00 pm

Nordic » 16 Feb 2016 09:45 wrote:"Racially abused" is a strange term. Maybe it's one of those English/English vs American/English things but it sounds like they had their races abused. Like what is that? Sounds more like verbal abuse and nothing more? Maybe just threatened them with the weapons?


Racial abuse is verbal abuse based on racist language. For example "Fuck off you black (or white) cunt/chink/wetback."
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Re: A hundred organized men on violent rampage in Stockholm.

Postby Nordic » Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:15 pm

Joe Hillshoist » Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:00 pm wrote:
Nordic » 16 Feb 2016 09:45 wrote:"Racially abused" is a strange term. Maybe it's one of those English/English vs American/English things but it sounds like they had their races abused. Like what is that? Sounds more like verbal abuse and nothing more? Maybe just threatened them with the weapons?


Racial abuse is verbal abuse based on racist language. For example "Fuck off you black (or white) cunt/chink/wetback."


Ok. Thanks.
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Re: A hundred organized men on violent rampage in Stockholm.

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:19 pm

jakell » 16 Feb 2016 09:41 wrote:
Bit strange. I'm trying to imagine how this dynamic scene suddenly ground to a halt, and picture the anticlimactic aftermath. Sort of begs for a punchline.

It sort of puts a lie to the saying.. " If there's a gun, a meat cleaver and a knife on the wall at the beginning of the play....."


Yeah - a traumatised family probably huddled in a corner crying and wondering if they are even safe in their own home any more just begs for a punchline. Classy.

As for how it ended. If you'd read some of the other reports about it you'd know an alarm went off spooking the people doing the home invasion so they bailed.
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Re: A hundred organized men on violent rampage in Stockholm.

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:20 pm

Nordic » 16 Feb 2016 10:15 wrote:
Joe Hillshoist » Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:00 pm wrote:
Nordic » 16 Feb 2016 09:45 wrote:"Racially abused" is a strange term. Maybe it's one of those English/English vs American/English things but it sounds like they had their races abused. Like what is that? Sounds more like verbal abuse and nothing more? Maybe just threatened them with the weapons?


Racial abuse is verbal abuse based on racist language. For example "Fuck off you black (or white) cunt/chink/wetback."


Ok. Thanks.


Yeah, sorry if the language was a bit over the top ... its is nasty to hear.
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Re: A hundred organized men on violent rampage in Stockholm.

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:22 pm

Iamwhomiam » 16 Feb 2016 09:39 wrote:
Apparently they like the latest Playstation too and use it for communication whilst playing Call Of Duty. The recent 'Black Ops' version contains all sorts of the torture and stuff I am told.


I'll ask my grandson tomorrow.

Every player's address and time spent online is recorded, be sure of it. And "they" can turn on your cameras and mics when you're not playing, or so I've been told.


I dunno if game servers or consoles store audio logs of game chat. maybe they do but I wouldn't know. I'm guessing PCs do.
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Re: A hundred organized men on violent rampage in Stockholm.

Postby jakell » Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:25 pm

Joe Hillshoist » Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:19 am wrote:
jakell » 16 Feb 2016 09:41 wrote:
Bit strange. I'm trying to imagine how this dynamic scene suddenly ground to a halt, and picture the anticlimactic aftermath. Sort of begs for a punchline.

It sort of puts a lie to the saying.. " If there's a gun, a meat cleaver and a knife on the wall at the beginning of the play....."


Yeah - a traumatised family probably huddled in a corner crying and wondering if they are even safe in their own home any more just begs for a punchline. Classy.

As for how it ended. If you'd read some of the other reports about it you'd know an alarm went off spooking the people doing the home invasion so they bailed.


Aha, mystery solved. So much for the three disorganised men in Salford.
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Re: A hundred organized men on violent rampage in Stockholm.

Postby American Dream » Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:29 pm

jakell » Mon Feb 15, 2016 6:41 pm wrote:
..."Officers attended and found that three men had smashed through the rear doors armed with a gun, a meat cleaver and a knife and threatened and racially abused the three occupants.

"No one was injured and nothing was stolen."..



Bit strange. I'm trying to imagine how this dynamic scene suddenly ground to a halt, and picture the anticlimactic aftermath. Sort of begs for a punchline.

It sort of puts a lie to the saying.. " If there's a gun, a meat cleaver and a knife on the wall at the beginning of the play....."


This sort of emotionally numb and/or sociopathic reaction- and before it jakell's dog poop post in response to the intimidation and shooting of Black Lives Matter protestors by racist wing-a-dings, brings to mind Hannah Arendt's concept of "the banality of Evil"...
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Re: A hundred organized men on violent rampage in Stockholm.

Postby jakell » Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:33 pm

American Dream » Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:29 am wrote:
jakell » Mon Feb 15, 2016 6:41 pm wrote:
..."Officers attended and found that three men had smashed through the rear doors armed with a gun, a meat cleaver and a knife and threatened and racially abused the three occupants.

"No one was injured and nothing was stolen."..



Bit strange. I'm trying to imagine how this dynamic scene suddenly ground to a halt, and picture the anticlimactic aftermath. Sort of begs for a punchline.

It sort of puts a lie to the saying.. " If there's a gun, a meat cleaver and a knife on the wall at the beginning of the play....."


This sort of emotionally numb and/or sociopathic reaction- and before it jakell's dog poop post in response to the intimidation and shooting of Black Lives Matter protestors by racist wing-a-dings, brings to mind Hannah Arendt's concept of "the banality of Evil"...


No, I always react in this fashion when people inject particular stimuli in order to elicit a programmed response. I jam the signal.

Such basic manipulation is an insult to the intelligence. It's about Pavlov's level and you should really up your game several notches.
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